Don’t get all pissy about the title of this article and send me death threats. I took it from an article that I found summarizes my problems with Christians. This masterpiece was written by Darryl James, an award-winning author that I have never heard of and you probably haven’t either. But after you read this article you will be a fan, unless of course you’re a Christian in which case you’ll wish death upon him and so-on and so forth because you’re nuts. Anywho, grab a bottle of Jesus Juice and get your read on. We here at Religious Freaks salute you Darryl James.
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November 18th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
Very nice. I wouldn’t have a problem with religion if all religious people thought like Darryl James. He should start his own religion.
November 19th, 2005 at 6:29 pm
That was a horrible article. He had the right idea but it died on execution (excuse the pun). Labeling people stupid is just as bad as labeling them as (take your pick of the word). Labeling people is an ignorant person’s way of categorizing them and taking away people’s humanity. Calling someone a nigger is an excellent example. Calling someone stupid is another good example, just not as good as the previous one.
Hope you find better articles.
-Another Athiest
August 10th, 2006 at 4:16 pm
i tottally agree with another atheist and also he canot quote Jesus stuff that “proves”
his point and also leave behind the things that dont… like Jesus said im the only way..(regarding if he is rigth or not)
November 30th, 2006 at 5:37 am
This guy seems really angry and he looks soo gay in his photo. I wonder if he is a sexually repressed, closet homosexual?
November 30th, 2006 at 6:10 am
What has it got to with it if he is or isn’t gay. Might he just be angry about “stupid christians”? Why does sexuality have to come into it whenever anyone criticises religion. Thats just “stupid”.
November 30th, 2006 at 12:59 pm
Agreed. I’ve personally been accused of being gay on more than one occasion simply for pointing out how horrible Christians are towards homosexuals, and how wrong it is. It’s annoying and retarded. A lot of Christians out there need to learn to stop labeling and redefining whatever/whoever disagrees with them. Not all of them have that problem, but damn… so many do.
News flash: just because someone disagrees with your religion doesn’t mean they are some horrible awful sinner.
March 8th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
Haha! Daryl got it right!
Stupid fucking kkkristians.
March 25th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Personally i dont think all christians are bad ( yes i do hate most christians because they are bigoted assholes who preach about peace and love then turn around and accuse other religions of devil worshiping)however there are some out there that are good and what i call True Christians because they do folow up on the bible and are nice to others ( even those that have completely diffrent views then them)
April 30th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
fuck u ANd christian Stupieds They r all gay
July 4th, 2007 at 2:40 am
Wow. What a delight it was to find such a righteous site! The way of the lord is here: http://www.christiansarestupid.com/
October 1st, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Yes this my exact problem at home, first off Jesus was angry at the pharissees because they held religious concepts but had no heart for their followers.
Jesus was no Christian, but Paul of Tarsus was..Remember how the disciples always questioned Jesus because he spoke in parables? Not understanding him completely? Nobody did in fact understand him, did he reject them because of it? no…but what they did understand was LOVE was the only important factor in belief. godhatesfags.com or org and atruechurch.org aren’t really impressive in their beliefs. Most Xtians don’t understand that I know why I shouldn’t listen to them, They persecute me , judge my every move but somehow if i decide to react or get upset or nervous that they are forceful and dogmatic I am evil and going to Hell because they can’t control me. Being a woman hasn’t helped my acceptance from them either or my opinions. Satan designed women? Why do Xtian men hit on me then? but they don’t allow me to have opinions. I’m sorry but this is my life,my brother forces it on me and won’t let me have my own knowledge of God and Jesus, who was AGAINST exactly what is happening today. Narcissism led you there, and you believe it’s being saved? no you are just narcissistic in a new way. Unless you truely accept love as the universal truth. I am especially glad a black man wrote this as wonderfully topics on the bible misinterpret that you need to accept racism as well, because white God = white men? God isn’t white, he is light Jesus was Arab/Jewish physically..please people that is what made Hitler so devious.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pm
more to dogma,
http://www.hiddenmeanings.com, people attract those who agree with them naturally. naturally you are persecuted because you have persecuted others first. it’s life, stop trying also to pretend to be nice to me to make yourself look good. it doesn’t make a difference because I know intentions of others. this what men in the church call “stupid” intuition of a woman. It’s usually for the better we have it. or i wouldn’t know how to protect myself.
October 1st, 2007 at 11:18 pm
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/religion/index.html
October 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pm
There is no difference between Pagan and xtians, they also believed in a living gods and worshipped them, what many people can’t do is accept pure LOVE. I’m tired of all the labels like pagan. Jesus would think you are as well. You are without love. i’m done. :) thnx
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:27 pm
Atheist, you don’t need to favor them either. I don’t like the beliefs. So I probably best not be friends with them. Only because eventually they’ll go preachy pants on you. If not they aren’t really paying attention to their own dogma/biblical beliefs… so they really aren’t even Christian…although why is it I have no problems with other Religious people? Because they don’t impede on your peace, they don’t oppose you or judge that you aren’t Hindu or Buddhist or blah blah blahdy dah their beliefs when you just want to talk about music or a hobby or even a roll of toilet paper. Christians act as if the world gangs up on them, but they also cause that by getting in your face….so it’s a result of natural law. Besides Christians get their way, they try to take free speech away but they can have any free speech they want….well if any more laws are influenced by them they won’t need to preach anymore because no freedom will be left. Why can’t I get an abortion if I was gang raped? Maybe I shouldn’t be a slut, but why should anyone be one? because it’s nasty. Xtians make up almost 90 percent of the population of the U.S. O_O how is it they believe evolution is popular and going to defeat them? Stupid.
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Ok
Now I dont understand something. You talk of “love” but all i see from this article is not love, but hate.
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:25 pm
I want to post another comment. this is not a aritcal about dumb christan it is a artical about power. This is a way to get the upper hand on something u cant do any thing about. people are never going to stop belieiveing in chrit, just because you call them stupid and dumb. Power is what u want right? its what hitler wanted. That man killed millions of jews and millions of others less “disirible”. God stated facts that are not going to change like he is the only way to hevan. that is something that were are never going to not believe. so u might want to stop trying
the other thing is that i dont get why u guys are so angry, well i guess i do. things that other people say like your going to hell can effect you. that is one thing i will never say it. why? because it is not up for me to decide. God said do not judge other less you be judged. that is like the golden rule. do as in others as you would have them do unto you.
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:40 pm
I want to post another comment. this is not a aritcal about dumb christan it is a artical about power. This is a way to get the upper hand on something u cant do any thing about. people are never going to stop belieiveing in chrit, just because you call them stupid and dumb. Power is what u want right? its what hitler wanted. That man killed millions of jews and millions of others less “disirible”. God stated facts that are not going to change like he is the only way to hevan. that is something that were are never going to not believe. so u might want to stop trying
the other thing is that i dont get why u guys are so angry, well i guess i do. things that other people say like your going to hell can effect you. that is one thing i will never say it. why? because it is not up for me to decide. God said do not judge other less you be judged. that is like the golden rule. do as in others as you would have them do unto you.
tolerance is the foundation of our country. I am a 13 yr old and i get that. people came here to worship how they want to. we have to give each other time to explane there side of the story. we can not be jutict or fair minded if we attack in thing that is different. now I am saying that to nonchristains and christains we dont have to except it we all jusst have to listen. some times I think we hear but were do not listen. we should not prosiut others for if we do NO love or peace will come. I believe that god is the only god. But i also beleive that good can only be the only judge. comprimis is a trust that happens between sworen enemys. I hope we are not hateful towed each other let us have peace and love-if not let us have tolerance.
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 pm
WHOM DO YOU SERVE?
Deny God exists to a modern day Christian and they will call you a fool. Say that Jesus was only a prophet and they will try to convert you. Tell them the bible is full of lies and they will say they’ll pray for you. But tell a modern day Christian their pastor is a phony or a hypocrite and they will call for your blood. They will despise you and wish all kinds of evil upon you if you slight their church, leaders or fellow hypocrites.
The word of God says†A man cannot serve God and mammon, or two masters. He will hate one and love the other. It is very clear when you encounter the abovementioned scenario, that Christians do indeed love their church, pastor, music artist, evangelist, etc. more than God. It is a true statement to say that Christians serve their church more than God. I have seen blatant worship of Pastors, Evangelists, Authors, Christian music “artistsâ€, and others in the limelight of Christianity. It is not just a few Christians who follow them but it is the norm in Christian circles today. They love to put down other religions and cults but don’t you dare criticize any Christian endeavor. You will be blacklisted if you own a business, shunned in restaurants and stores by people you know who are Christians, and the worst is the actual prayers for your demise that Christians offer up to their false God, Baal-Jesus. Christians are the best haters in society today. They excel at gossip, slander, and a variety of retaliatory actions legal or otherwise against their enemies.
Many profess to be “Christianâ€, yet you never hear them confess Jesus before men. They confess to being a Baptist, a Catholic, a Mormon, and a Christian, just to name a few. A woman came into my store once and in sharing our faith with one another she exclaimed, “I just love Pastor Jeff and my church!†To which I replied, “I just love Jesus!†“Humph! Well so do I!†She quickly added. Actually, she spoke out of the abundance of her heart, as the word says, and confessed her first love. It is a common trait of church people. They love their church, pastor, priest, Rabbi, Pope, Prophet, or leaders more than the Lord. Just listen to them long enough and I guarantee you they will talk about these things 90% or more of the time verses Jesus and God. It is especially entertaining, and sad to hear these followers of man discuss doctrines of their perspective church. They quote things taught to them by man and think it’s scripturally sound. Jer23 says,†They steal words from one another and say it’s from Meâ€, says the Lord. Funny how a prophetic word thousands of years ago is so apropos today!
“I believe in Jesus so that makes me a Christian.†So? I believe in Buddha, does that make me a Buddhist? You cannot say you don’t believe in Buddha if in fact he lived and breathed on this earth. I do not practice his teachings and follow Buddha, nor do I WORSHIP him. Christians today believe in Jesus but few and far between are they that actually serve and worship Him. In fact, the Word of God states, “You believe in God, you do well. The dmons also believe, and they trembleâ€. So I always tell the Christian hypocrites that say they believe, “You’re in good company!â€
The disciples in the time after the resurrection called themselves, “Followers of the Wayâ€, and “Bond servants of the Lord Jesus Christ.†That means a self willed slave. Today’s Christian makes God a slave to them because they are taught this from their leaders. God will “Prosper†you. “ALL your sins, past, present and future, are forgivenâ€, in essence giving you free reign to sin all the more. “God loves you and wants to bless you.†“God will never hurt youâ€. There is no fear of the Lord in these teachings. No call to repent or humble yourselves. I’m not talking about a hokey Sunday sermon about fear of the Lord or humility. I mean a LIFE that is daily practicing these doctrines. These common Christian church teachings are much like any other religion or cult. The Christians take a truth from the Bible and manipulate it to meet their selfish motives. That is how cults and religions get started.
All the “Christian Religions serve up a false god to their followers. When you understand how a cult is started, and what makes it thrive, you can see why they have to alter the God of the bible. In other words, if people could learn of God right from His word, with no earthly middleman, then they wouldn’t need religion. The Christians teach their god as a whining beggar in need of their souls. The Catholics use him as a figurehead who joins them in worshipping Mary. The Mormons teach he is a reincarnated alien from another planet, to name just a few. Yet sadly, in spite of all the misconceptions about the One True God, He reveals Himself to any who seek Him clearly in His word. The ancient Torah, and the modern day Bible are full of the knowledge of Jehovah God. Most important for all to beware of is that God will judge us according to His word, not what we were taught by man. So then there is NO excuse for following all these man made religions, especially the ones who claim God told them to veer from His word. “The Spirit teaches you (reveals) all things, so you have no need of any man to teach you anythingâ€, is a promise and decree from the word of God. Yet know this that the Spirit will never give a word of revelation or lead you apart from the Bible, never. If someone claims to be a Prophet, and gives a word from God, and it is contrary to the Bible, flee from it. They are not speaking from God, nor the Holy Spirit. There is never a need to elaborate on a prophetic word to squeeze it in to line up with scripture. So often we hear of a so called prophet with a new word from God. It doesn’t line up with Holy Scripture so the “prophet†has to go into a lengthy explanation to steer the listener into some semblance of “logical†acceptance of the prophecy. God always says what He means to say. Whenever I hear someone say, “what God really means is…†I tend to discover another false doctrine in the teaching. It is rare that God is not clear on any given subject, and if you find one where he isn’t then chances are it is not for us to know. There are some matters that God has chosen to keep hidden from us, yet in this age of information we demand to know all. So, the cult religions step out of the grace of trusting the Lord and each one has it’s own answers to everything in life. This is yet another way they try to keep their membership loyal. Funny how that demand to know all is the same original sin that caused the fall of man in the Garden of Eden. Instead of the Serpent in the garden, we have false prophets, and mega cult religions to say to us,â€You shall not surely die…†(Genesis Ch3 vs 4-5), yet they still lead us in the same sin, and so many partake of the forbidden fruit. Hence you allow yourselves to be led astray by knowledge corrupted and abused to turn us away from complete trust in God.
People will attempt to debate the validity of the Bible, in particular the King James Version. I have neither need nor time for such foolishness. In fact, the Lord tells me in His word, “…keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.†1Tim ch6 vs 20-21, and “16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.†2 Tim ch2 vs 16, and “9But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.†Titus ch 3 vs 9. And finally, “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.â€Col Ch2 Vs 8.
Clearly, after reading these passages, is is plain to see that God does not want me to nor does He need me to strive to defend His word. Believe it or leave it I say! Heaven or Hell, the choice is all yours! Again, I wish to emphasize that God will hold each of us accountable by His word, the Bible. There will be no excuses on judgment day for those who followed man and their manipulations of the written word.
Excerpt from the book “Spiritual Reality†by B.E. Elias
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Oh yeah, as for the article, I can only imagine the hokey “award” this frustrated black man won!
November 2nd, 2007 at 10:18 pm
RRock, so all you can contribute are condescending remarks and excerpts from books? If you know your right and “god” is on your side, why even bother coming to a site like this and posting things? Your either another annoying ass who wants to convert, or an annoying ass who isn’t confident in their own faith so they feel a need to proclaim it to everyone they see. Either way, your not the first one to do it, and the world would be better off if all of you didn’t exist.
November 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 am
Irish,
I would bet that we would all have one Hell of a laugh if your real identity and lifestyle were made known. You are the type to hide in a closet and type out your frustrations, or hide in the crowd who wanted to stone the prostitute. Indeed this world would be better off without me, but the living God has chosen to keep me around. From the sound of it, if you were running this website it would be an empty space on the internet, while you killed off all opposing paties other than your opinion, wehich is lame at best anyway.
November 3rd, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Rrock, Irish has a point. You haven’t contributed a single smidgen of discussion other then saying how right you are.
So far, his observation seems to be correct, you don’t really help your own credibility by acting the way you do. Of course, if you’re merely here to annoy, that’s not important.
Also, if you agree that the world is better off without you, why not jump off a bridge? (not meant as an insult)
November 3rd, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Alcari, It is not given to me to give or take life, not even my own. The power of life and death are God’s, and in that He is sovreign in my life and indeed upon the earth. perhaps I will relate a story from my life of a situation where this was clearly displayed in a life threatening scenario.
Alcari Says:
November 3rd, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Also, if you agree that the world is better off without you, why not jump off a bridge? (not meant as an insult)
November 4th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
RRock, your totally avoiding the real problem. If you don’t wanna convert anyone, and you are SO sure that your god is the right one and you worship him exactly as your supposed to, then why come to a site like this that is devoted to arguing these points? It just seems like you just trying to piss people off, which is kinda sad.
November 4th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
irish,
Apparently you missed the “about” section of this forum. The site owner would disagree with your claim to superiority on this blog.
irishthunder Says:
November 4th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
RRock, your totally avoiding the real problem. If you don’t wanna convert anyone, and you are SO sure that your god is the right one and you worship him exactly as your supposed to, then why come to a site like this that is devoted to arguing these points? It just seems like you just trying to piss people off, which is kinda sad.
“ReligousFreaks was born in October 2005 by myself. Mostly, it grew out of my growing disdain for religion and the hatred and ignorance it breeds. The goal of ReligiousFreaks is not to incite hatred towards people of faith, but rather to foster interfaith discussion and understanding.”
November 5th, 2007 at 8:31 am
erm, Rrock, try reading that again. It’s exactly as Irish said…
“”
The goal of ReligiousFreaks is not to incite hatred towards people of faith, but rather to foster interfaith discussion and understanding.
“”
November 5th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
irish, your totally avoiding the real problem. If you don’t wanna convert anyone, and you are SO sure that my god is not the right one and I worship him exactly as your supposed to, then why come to a site like this that is devoted to arguing these points? It just seems like you just trying to piss people off, which is kinda sad.
you see how your own words condemn you? Probably not.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:23 am
RRock, you seriously can’t be this oblivious.
November 6th, 2007 at 11:20 am
Oblivious? Me? Is everything one way here or do you guys read what you write? It is obvious to me that irish is guilty of the very accusations he rails against me.
November 6th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
This is really a stupid argument, you know why you come to this site and it isn’t for “interfaith discussion”. Your simply trying to get people riled up, but if thats what gets you off go ahead and continue. Everyone will just end up ignoring you like the thousands of death threats posted under the muhammed caricatures.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Of course it must be “stupid” irish, as it sheds the light on you and your double standard. Now as self proclaimed leader you will boycott my posts and “everyone” will follow suit. And I care?
November 6th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Thats not what i’m claiming. Because you really don’t wanna contribute to this site, only post flamebait, the regular reader of this site will simply disregard your posts.
November 6th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Please define “contribute”, and from what I have read there is nothing “regular” about people on this forum! It is as diverse as it can be.
irishthunder Says:
November 6th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Thats not what i’m claiming. Because you really don’t wanna contribute to this site, only post flamebait, the regular reader of this site will simply disregard your posts.
November 6th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Brothers & Sisters, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you; but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation of His glory you may rejoice with exultation.
If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. Make sure that none of you suffers as a murderer, or thief, or evildoer, or a troublesome meddler; but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name.
November 7th, 2007 at 12:30 am
Howdy all,
Rrock I think he meant regular as in frequent. So he was talking about people who have been reading this site for awhile. I do not believe he meant reagular as in ordinary.
Cheers
Simon Bond
November 8th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
ow please
give me a break. We (christians) come on this site and post things only because we care for you. We know that god sent out the phophese to spred the word of god. That is what we are doing spreading the word.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Howdy all,
Katie, we (those who don’t believe in God) set up and post on sites like this because we care for you. We are troubled by fallacys you have been decieved in believing. So we spread the knowledge we have found in the hope that it will open your eyes.
Can you see how your statement is just as valid from the opposite perspective?
Cheers
Simon Bond
November 8th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
I think that katie is right. I am not a christian but I am a collage student doing an project on the worlds major religons. In the bible god told them to take the word and spread it out to the world. But it also said that if your not welcome shake the dust off your feet and go from that town. but then if their god tells them to preach then their is nouthing that is going to stop them.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Howdy all,
Sorry for the double post. I would just like to point out that the contents of my previous post was merely to demonstrate a point. I do not necessarly support the assertions made in it.
Cheers
Simon Bond
November 8th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
are eyes are open. we all have different beliefs I know, but like you and I said, we care. that is why some of us write, to show that we care. my point is that i am hopeing that if we disagree that we can be cival to each other and not say “the world would be a better place to live in if you did not exist” that is crule and evil. I will never give up my relion because it is right. But i will never say that you will go to hell just because that is not my dision, its gods.
:)
November 9th, 2007 at 7:35 am
See, that’s where we differ. “We” Atheists think the world would be a better place if we stop adhering to archaic beliefs whose sole purpose it is to stop people from thinking for themselves, to the deteriment to all of society.
I will not respect your beliefs, because they are based on nothing but hearsay and do nothing but oppose the improvement of society. Your beliefs are based solely on wishfull thinking, instead of testable proof and therefor not true. I will however, respect you as a human being.
The idea that religion is exempt from scrutiny is laughable. Why religion deserves more respect then any other ideology is beyond me.
November 9th, 2007 at 9:53 am
Hi katie,
I would like to add one caveat to alcari’s statement. We may not respect what you believe, but almost all of us respect your right to believe it. We would never force you to stop practicing your religion so long as that practice infringes on no one else’s right.
alcari is right, religion deserve no inherent respect. What I’m afraid of is that such statements will be misinterpreted as atheists claiming people should be prevented from believing. That’s why I always try to couple such statements with a reminder that we respect the right to believe even the most ridiculous things.
November 9th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Katie, I hear you and like Alcari said, we should not stop thinking in what ever we do, but give thanks to God for everything.
Katie, my sister, i have no idea where Alcari gets this idea that we stop thinking when we believe in our God, the creator of this universe. Let explore this world and universe we live to the best of our human understanding.
Alcari said, “stop people from thinking for themselves, to the deteriment to all of society”.
Alcari, I do agree everyone should not stop asking questions and seeking answers.
RRock, Katie, Bios and i believe in God. I am grateful for them and you all.
Can we agree on this, A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:40 am
Sid, thanks for the addendum. I forget that it’s not always obvious.
Believing in God doesn’t stop the thinking, it’s the blind acceptance of everything they tell you. It’s obvious from the fact that you don’t even seem to think “Hmm, this evolution thing makes a lot more sense then creationism” or “odd, why does God never answer prayers, even though he supposedly said he would”
November 12th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Thank you michael
November 12th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
alcari,
I have to say that you speak from what you want to see and not what is right in front of you.
frist of all, god does answer prayers. I have lots of things that if it was not for got I would not have. he has given me more than is really posible to dicribe.
now that has to sound foolish to a person that doesn’t belive in him, but it is true.
the reason I belive is faith. You have openly said that you have none and that is stupid to have any. but that is your opion, not mine.
I see that you have put all faith apone your self. You are your own god. that is foolish in my eyes.
November 12th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Now thank all that do not belive but still respect my right for religon. You are friends in my eyes. evan though we disagree.
November 12th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
@katie
pray for a spell checker, please.
can you demonstrate power of prayer on the spot?
November 12th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
also, i have encountered the “your own god” mantra from many xtians. it is utter nonsense. i do not pretend to be a god (my own or otherwise). why does one need a god at all? why can’t a person exist without a god of any kind?
November 12th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Katie, you don’t need a spell checker. i understand every word you type.
God Bless you my sister for the love that is in you.
boris, Katie knows in her heart, that happiness, she just wants to share with you.
Turn from your sins boris, don’t say there is no God, but God seeks you.
that’s all boris…
November 13th, 2007 at 4:22 am
Katie, I can understand everything you type as well, but a spell check would still be nice. I use on as well, especially because isn’t my first language either.
Also, if God does grant prayers, why does he hate amputees? why is the scientific evidence that prayer doesn’t work?
Remember, if something happens “once in a million lifetimes”, with all the people on earth, it still happens a dozen times every year. Aren’t statictics nice?
November 13th, 2007 at 10:29 am
(emphasis mine)
Sorry alcari, I couldn’t resist ;)
Unless it’s absolutely atrocious, I can’t comment on others’ spelling without being a
hypocrithippocrithyppocrithypocrite. Mine is the worst I know. Real-time spell check in Firefox has got to be my favorite feature.Now onto katie’s content…
There are a number of logical problems I see when most people attribute prayers being answered (or good things in general) to God. First, humans have an instinct to see agency where none exists. In other words, we are ‘programmed’ to attribute thought and intention to things and events, even if there is no thought and intention. The strange shadow on the wall in the dark alley is immediately assumed by our minds to be a person, for instance. You may be making that error when considering some of your good fortune.
Next is the issue of success bias. This is where one unconsciously weights the successes more than the failures. In this case, it is likely that you remember when your prayer were ‘answered’ more often and more clearly than when your prayers were not.
Also, we have the classic post hoc ergo proctor hoc (after, therefor because of) fallacy. Temporal succession does not guarantee causation. You may have received the object of your prayers as the result of something other than your prayers. You then assumed they were a result of your prayers simple because they occurred after them. Example of this are common amongst athletes. For instance, a baseball player noticed that they happened to have a great game after buying a new glove. They assume, falsely, that their great performance was because if occurred after the purchase the new glove.
There are other potential fallacies in such thinking, but I’ve already written too much.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
OK I am terrible sorry that I have the worst grammar in the world.;)
God does not hate any one. He never has and NEVER will. I hope that is shown through christians, but I know that not all do. We are humans and VERY far from perfect.
Prayer is spending time with god, really. God has this amazing power to just take over your life. He tells you that some things are wrong. You may not see him or hear, but you know that he is there. It is hard to explain really, but it is there.
well what scientific “proof” is there? I have never understood how a person could prove such a thing.
Well sidfaiwu, the reason I really don’t think that is true is because things that happen aren’t in are control, there in gods. I know you hate hearing that but it is true. He gives us strength, courage, what ever we need to get through the rough times. he is a guide, the time you spend with him is not fake. God is not in our imagination. Thousands of millions of people and hundreds of generations cant be wrong about that.
November 15th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
“I really don’t think that is true is because things that happen aren’t in are control, there in gods.”
Are you trying to say that there is no free will?
“well what scientific “proof†is there? I have never understood how a person could prove such a thing.”
Many of the claims made in the bible have been disproved using the scientific method.
November 15th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
I see I made it back in time. I missed the theme for the present discussion.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Irish, you fail to understand what Katie is saying therefore you say there is no free will. what she speaks is of the spirit and not of your scientific mind.
Every wise woman buildeth her house: but the foolish pluketh it down with her hands.
Katie, is wise and buildeth her house on the rock.
December 3rd, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Wow I have not been on the computer in such a long time!!!
I WANT TO WHAT NOW WHAT!!! You say there is proof but I see nothing!!! You want to now what. There is no proof there are “theories” things people have guessed at. Not proof. Gusses of why that can not be. not the truth but mear guesses. Why do u believe that. What is your reason for believing that I have shown u why I believe in god why do u believe in the words of a person that is at constantly guessing! Now that is what I dont get.
December 3rd, 2007 at 6:28 pm
*Katie* I hope you just continue to read the gospel daily and seek his word with your heart, Katie.
“Do good, O LORD, unto those that be good, and to them that are upright in their hearts”
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:02 pm
“There is no proof there are “theories†things people have guessed at. Not proof.”
Riiiight, yet another person who hasn’t the slightest understanding of the scientific method or the creation of theories.
The put it simply, what you call a “guess” is actually a well supported, verifiable. model of reality, which, in it’s current has never ever been proven wrong and is predictive in nature.
You don’t need faith to accept scientific theories, you can go check them for yourself and, if you haven’t made any mistakes, you’ll probably end up with the same conclusions. That, or a nobel prize.
also “U” is not a word in the English language. Caps and exclamation marks do not improve your argument. You might actually be 13 years old, but try to type like an adult.
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:14 pm
“God is not in our imagination. Thousands of millions of people and hundreds of generations cant be wrong about that.”
In a similar manner I could argue that, because most people are not Christian you are wrong, because 4 billion (random number, didn’t check) people can’t be wrong about that.
Just because there are a lot of you doesn’t make you right.
A little more explanation as to why we disregard god on a scientific basis.
1 - The universe can be completely explained without a god.
2 - Occam’s razor therefor says that there is no god.
3 - God is logically inconsistent, therefor there is no god.
4 - The only ‘proof’ of existance, the Bible, is highly dubious and full of flaws and contradictions.
Most of the arguing is done on point 1. Christians seem intent to proof that their God must have created the universe (and thus, must exist), because of this-or-that. Of course, 99.95% of those arguments are because the attacker doesn’t understand the theory explaining the phenomenon.
also, Your previous post was a LOT more readable then the last one, please disregard the continued comments on your spelling, but really, what does “I WANT TO WHAT NOW WHAT” mean?
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:38 pm
First of all Alcary you must be well informed to derivate well done and SUPORTED coments about something that is so broad and extensive to explain and which was constructed and created hundres and hundres of years before you born.
Secondly, and about the explanation of the universe, I completely sure that you can’t explain a simple issue about it for example the nucleosynthesis. furthermore the descriptions od the universe and the rest of the things that are arround us are described depending on or views of those. You can’t generalize because every single element in this world and out side it is different and have different views and expectations. Aditionally, your comments are so ethnocentristic because your not suspending your judgement to describe the existence of something that is uncomprensible and with your also afending and not having respect for millions of people in the world juste because they belive in something different. We don’t have the right to judge people for the things that they believe and for the things that they don’t believe.
I’m fully agree with some authors that we must be tolerant towards others.
Tolerance is, first of all, the respect of individuals, of their freedom of expression, not the respect of ideas. A confrontation between ideas, in the mutual respect of each other is positive, in that it shows some hope in human reason. Everyone has the right to error, to the expression of contradiction.
So what kind of tolerance would we fight for? An open tolerance, a positive tolerance, no doubt.
right or wrong? Who knows?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:16 am
Hello Sonia,
I have to presume this is sarcasm considering the rest of your comment. It seems you question Alcari’s ability to critique a particular idea simply because the idea is hundreds of years old. Here’s another idea that is hundreds of years old: the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth. Here’s another: there are many gods and they have human-like flaws. Clearly the age of an idea does NOT speak to the validity of that idea.
How exactly is not suspending judgment equivalent to being ethnocentric?
You are conflating respect for people with respect for beliefs. Based on reading Alcari’s comments for some time now, I know he has respect for his fellow humans. But respect for a person is different from having respects for their beliefs. It is possible to respect a person while simultaneously not respecting what they believe. For instance, as a Democrat, I have many Republican friends whom I respect, even if I have no respect for their political views.
You may be surprised to find widespread agreement with that statement here. Most of us would say that people should be judged for their actions, not their beliefs. What often happens, though, is that people try to enforce their beliefs on others. It is the enforcement that we judge, not the belief.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
I dont think god wants me hear.
bye
December 6th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
That would be ‘here’ Katie.
Maybe God steered you to my site for some purpose. Is that possible? He does work in mysterious ways you know:)
December 7th, 2007 at 7:25 am
God bless you Katie!
December 7th, 2007 at 10:28 am
Classic. Some of the things she read here must of made some sense. She probable mentioned it to one of here religious leaders. He (because you know it’s a man) said, “Satan is behind that site and is filling your head with lies!” or words to that effect.
Superstition flees in fear from reason yet again.
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:35 am
::sigh:: Did some of you guys actually READ the article? The author was condemning close-minded, ego-centric Christians, NOT Christians in general. The author was trying to make the point that we need to LOVE each other. That if you are going to be a Christian, you need to love your fellow human instead of condemning them, trying to convert them, or ostracizing them. Jeez, people. The author isn’t bitter and hateful. You guys came in with a certain idea about the article and injected your idea into the article. Read it with a blank mind.
March 10th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I agree. Even though i am a different religion. Isn’t religion about spreading love? some people i dont understand. they say that they are spreading gods word, but then they tell you that you are damned to hell because you wont accept jesus. I wish some people had a more open mind
March 11th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Pagen,
I’m beginning to think that what is obvious to the non-believer is not so obvious to the believer.
If believers think that relgion is about spreading love, and god is love, they must spread the word of their god. (If they didn’t spread the word of their god, their religion would evenutually die out.)
Non-believers DO NOT CARE, NOR WANT TO HEAR from ANY of the numerous religions that blanket the earth. Non-believers DO NOT EQUATE LOVE to a super natural super hero. They already have our definition of love, and it only concerns the relationship between them and other people.
If believers want to post on this site, it should be in an effort to defend their beliefs, and have a reasonably logical debate about why they think they are correct in believing what they believe. (Even though logic always prevails, thanks to the intelligent non-beleivers that frequent this site :)
The rest of us non-believers can just post to make fun of non-believers and wonder how in the world some people believe what they believe just because they were told to believe it… ALMOST ALL ATHEISTS came to the realization of a godless universe on their own, not because someone told them this. I bet almost everyone here thought there was probably a god when they were little, because most adults around them believed in a god. How on earth could an adult be wrong in a childs eye. :) Thank goodness for common sense and the courage to question everything.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:35 am
I agree with Daryl James, before we came to America we did not believe in Jesus, in my opinion most religions are made up. I believe that there is something greater than man,religion has brainwashed a lot of people who can not think for themselves, some of those people commit greater sins than non believers, The only thinkers in the church are the Preachers and his or her employees knowingly take of advantage of people, they feed into to people it is better to give than receive, most of the people can’t hardly take care of themselves, most of those poor people think that if they give they are gonna get something which is hardly the reality,they are not gonna get nothing, The preacher is chanting this so she or he can live good life, driving a Luxury car and a nice home while these other people are barely making ends meet.
It took me a long time to see i had to think of myself first before thinking of others, the only in my opinion you put before yourself is your children if you have any.
If you are not thinking of yourself first who is gonna think about you, no one is.
These are my problems with religion period.
May 25th, 2008 at 10:10 am
i have not read anything..this is so annoying..i just came to this site ‘par hazard’. i’m french..yeah…
christians r stupids, they do not know what to follow. follow one true God and that’s all.
June 20th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Hello,
Angry article but a lot of it is based in truth. As for Pagans and Christians being the same…sorry but you don’t know anything about Pagans. I am a Pagan and I don’t believe in any god, goddess, or gods. I celebrate the seasons, like the Winter and Summer Solstice, and I think that ANY organized religion is where people turn into freaks. Everyone is spiritual in their own unique way but this spirituality has nothing to do with organized religion. I love the saying “Spirituality is a journey, not a guilt trip”. Even my Atheist dad has reverence for nature and this is what I “worship”, so to speak, as a Pagan. Pagans are extremely diverse in what they believe and don’t push these beliefs down other’s throats like Christians do.
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July 13th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
LOL. I can’t stop laughing at how stupid this article is. I’m not religious and I can tell all its doing is making fun of the most kind and nice people I’ve ever met. I cant believe how stupid your making yourself look, LOL.
July 14th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
In my experience, Pagans have been alot nicer group of people than Christians. They never told me I was wrong for living my kufe how I wanted too, or threatened me with eternal torture, or anything like that.
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October 28th, 2008 at 10:59 am
I enjoyed the name very much.
although I respect people of different ideas and opnions
but sometimes I just want to call them whatever I wish.
now I’m in such a mood.
and specially hate christianity!
October 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
After reading all of your comments, I think each of you has a valid point and a just right to your opinions. Christians today seem to be judgmental, crude, and unaccepting. I personally am a Christian (Lutheran), but I try my best to represent my God, whom I believe to be loving, and the ultimate caretaker of all humanity. That being said, and out of pure human incouragement and the love I have for you through my God, I hope each of you search yourself for the truth you find most comfortable. NOT because I said so, but because you find it to be what you believe in as your light in this world. If it gives God or myself any credit at all, I say this so that everyone in the world has the chance to be showered with God’s love and mercy, because not even christians or myself are so high and mighty as to not fall away from even our own beliefs and ’salvation’. My deepest hopes that you all have a nice day! :)
November 9th, 2008 at 6:05 am
Good article. Stupid church addicts who can’t think. discusting.