UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE
Not to by outdone by the Europeans, Iran’s largest newspaper Hamshahri is holding an international cartoon contest to find the best Holocaust cartoons. Farid Mortazavi, the graphics editor for Hamshahri newspaper said,
The Western papers printed these sacrilegious cartoons on the pretext of freedom of expression, so let’s see if they mean what they say and also print these Holocaust cartoons.
I will carry these "comics" just the same as I have carried the Muhammed caricatures. However, I fail to see the similarities between caricatures of Muhammed and poking fun at the attempted extermination of the Jews which lead to 6 million dead. Maybe I’m missing something, but I think Muslims have some serious issues to resolve within their ranks.
Isn’t it interesting that they decided on the Holocaust and not Jesus? Well, here is the first cartoon complements of the European Arab League. The quality is rather poor, but it gets its point across.
UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE
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February 8th, 2006 at 12:12 am
Yes, they made their point: they are as free to print unfunny disturbing cartoons as any Dane.
I wonder if they understand the point they just made?
February 8th, 2006 at 3:44 am
mmmm….why muslims made this contest about holocaust and not jesus?
coz they respect all prophets ,and according to islam ,who dont belive in jesus,moses,…etc as he belives in muhammad ,is not a muslim
it is not funny to laugh at those great people!
February 8th, 2006 at 9:01 am
Rahma, so it’s funny to laugh at the death of 6 million people? That is quite disturbing by any standard.
February 8th, 2006 at 10:35 am
Ahh, c’mon. That was pretty funny. I register my vote of approval, and hope they’ll print the cartoons in papers all over the world, just for the hell of it. I think the point the editor was trying to make is that muslims find certain depictions of their prophet to be very touchy and offensive. Which is fine– they’ve got every right to be offended. What bothers me is the assumption that they’re implicitly making. They’ve only got a reason to be this offended if they believe news media is universally a cultural/religious/governmental spokesman.
They don’t realize that sometimes the newspaper is less like an elected official making a speech from the podium (which is how they’re treating it) and more like a crazed hobo on the street, shouting: “DAN RATHER FLIP FLOP THE PENTACHRIST! LIVE OATS LIVE OATS SHIPWRECK HAMBURGLARED MY HOME LOANS!” as spittle drips from his lip.
February 8th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
i tink it is sik and these white peoples dont know wats goin on fukin sweat the sooner the whiteys get bombed the better hope all the whites fall
February 8th, 2006 at 12:42 pm
I just hope that all muslims take to cartoon “warfare” rarther than terorism. It makes more sense.
February 8th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
tru_gansta_was: I “tink” you be NIGGER! Learn how to spell before you show your ignorance to all.
February 8th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
no damn kidden, grandwizard, tru gangsta got penthouse suite, a couple of mansions on the side and a dozen ‘new’ cars he dun even drive
February 8th, 2006 at 9:59 pm
Nothing funny about 6M people being killed, if that’s the real number? Estimates have doubled over the last fifty years.
However, I fully support the imprisonment of religious zealots and anyone promoting religion. It has been proven through history to cause more damage, than it is a help to mankind.
February 9th, 2006 at 1:32 am
Dear Friend,
The Iran newspaper Hamshahri has not printed the result of that competition yet. You can see this by making a search on the Internet. What is the source of this caricature? This caricature does not belong to that newspaper. This is the first thing to say and to be careful.
Secondly, some muslims think that the caricatures about prophet mohammed are not for the sake of “freedom of speech”. They think that the caricatures were printed in order to create a conflict. So, in that perspective, those caricatures are not printed to be just critical or political. Some Muslim countries want to show their reaction. Hamshahri is a populist newspaper as i realized. so, the newspaper started such a rivalry. but, we do not know that the caricatures will be irrispectful to the Jews or Christians.
I hope, they will not be irrespectful to the dead people. They can be just questioning the freedom of speech. Just like the face of Prophet Mohammed is a taboo for some people, holocaust stories are also taboo for some other people. Thinking about genocide should not be as rude as the caricature you showed above.
A newspaper in Urdun called Al-Shahri (a muslim country) asked a question: “does the caricatures or the re-actions in muslim countries harm Islam more?”… so, you should be aware that all the people in muslim countries are not enemy of the europeans. and vice versa.
the Hamshahri said that:
“A serious question for Muslims … is this: ‘Does Western free speech allow working on issues like America and Israel’s crimes or an incident like the Holocaust or is this freedom of speech only good for insulting the holy values of divine religions?”
and it added:
“Hamshahri, far from any conflict-seeking attitude or illogical behavior, has called on the artists of the world to use free speech to send cartoons on these issues to take part in the contest,”
I say to all the people who read these lines: being a part of provocation is easy, but managing the results are not.
The world is not “msn” or “aol messenger” or “icq” … bullets and bombs are not “instant messages” that we send to each other.
Killing is a crime! and when you are a believer, killing -unless anyone tries to kill you literally and you try to protect yourself- is a sin!.!
Please give a chance to yourself, not the bloody politics or stinky provocations.
thanks,
armagan - from the republic of turkey
February 9th, 2006 at 2:32 am
Well, I’m sorry for dirtying the memory of all the jews that died in that war with this cartoon. You can not stop this makeing of cartoons. But just think that it tooked some good years to make people realize what was going on in that war. Now allmost all the world realize and respect the memory of all peoples who died there. In a few years, let’s hope, that even the extremists muslims or islamists will understand that.
February 9th, 2006 at 8:54 am
Armagan, as I stated in the article… this cartoon is from the European Arab League. Once the Iranian newspaper releases their cartoons I will post them here.
February 9th, 2006 at 9:06 am
Shamus, after reading your message, I realized the limitations of my way of thinking. Printing holocaust caricatures would distract some Jews. Basically, those caricatures might hurt them. The reaction of hurted people to other people.
Now, after a short-delay, I can see how unnecessary to give such a “response”. I guess, I think, all the ways of revenge, physically and mentally are ugly.
If anyone wants to play with the limitation of another one, he/she should find mora intelligent and beautiful ways of doing this. Even you hurt someone, you should give him/her pleasure. And those caricatures -no matter how wellformed they might be in the future- would be just rudeness to some people. This idea is valid for every people, for me. Not just for Muslims.
February 9th, 2006 at 9:15 am
To gasmonso.
Ok, gasmonso. I missed the last line. Sorry. And, thanks for reminding that information.
But, since the Dannish caricatures can not be generalized to all Denmark, Europe, America etc.; that caricature is not the Iranian response neither the Muslim’s. Noone knows the what the Holocaust Caricatures will be. They might not be as rude as this one.
…anyway, as I’ve said in my previous post, I think these kind of “attacks” also be damageful to some people’s memories and hearts. So, I do not see the competition reasonable now for the sake of freedom of speech. And, I still do not see the Prophet Mohammed’s caricatures reasonable, too. This is my idea of course.
Ps. by they way, I’m “Armagan”.
February 10th, 2006 at 3:38 am
But now all the muslim and islamist extremists can see that these cartoons can be published. No one stoped them by force! This is realy the freedom of speech. The only thing that will stop this cartoons to be published will be the moral self-control. But they are printed and for sure will be more cartoons printed from the both sides.
February 10th, 2006 at 3:40 am
hey.. anyone can laugh at any thing:political,social,historical…but not religious . if the cartoon were about muslims themselves it would be provocative but not as bad as now,coz it is prophet.
the non-muslims have the freedom to draw prophets,but of course with all respect as they are great people and did a lot for us
i am egyptian ,and in my country we live together :muslims & christians .copts draw jesus,but we have no proble,as they do with respect.
finally..holoucost is a historical event,not religious!
February 10th, 2006 at 3:50 am
well told, but you can not stop someone to disrespect your beliefs! it is not correct. If someone think that religion is excrement that’s it.
February 10th, 2006 at 3:55 am
I am not muslim, so for me the Allah and Muhammed dosen’t mean anything. For respect of your religion I do not swear at him, but if someone das not have this respect he will jerk on your most prestigious figures. But No one can kill him for this.
February 10th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
Seems to me that saying that the people who set fire to an embassy over these cartoons are representative of all Muslims is like saying that the people who beat a homosexual to death out in…Texas, I think it was?…and hung him on a fence are representative of all Christians.
The bottom line is that anyone who truly understands and believes in a religion that proclaims peace — no matter which religion that might be — is not going to start destroying things over disrespect to one of their holy figures. They have every right to be upset, and to voice their displeasure, but at the point that physical violence enters into the picture, they no longer have the right to claim that they are upset on religious grounds, since they are very obviously not following the most basic tennant of their religion.
February 14th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
If they were genuinely asking: ‘Does Western free speech allow working on issues like America and Israel’s crimes or an incident like the Holocaust or is this freedom of speech only good for insulting the holy values of divine religions?” then they would realise that: of course it does. Otherwise somebody like Mike Moore - just for example - wouldn’t be allowed to produce his work (work I have very little respect for, but have the utmost respect for his right to be able to produce it) and would probably have been dropped in a ditch somewhere in another place.
Something like the Holocaust is a little different since it involves so much deliberate death and hate, but I’m all for people getting to print cartoons on it - it at least is revealing of their interests. People should be more open about their opinions, and live less in fear.
February 17th, 2006 at 3:03 pm
if i may comment as an israeli youth:
these are hillarious. let me explain. most of us have developed humor as a way to deal with a trajedy so uncomprehensably large. i’ve been to poland, seen auschwits, and trust me, you can ether develop a twisted sense of humor, or just collapse of depression, and understanding of the horrors the human race can produce. so, those are basicly designed to piss us off. now officialy we say that they are in bad taste and that iran is free to publish them. and while they are in bad taste, we would never riot. we laugh.
February 17th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
Just reading here. I have a few issues with the whole idea that the Dane’s were wishing to promote a goal of war, for some type of economic interest.
Point
A.) The Dane’s have NO military worth speaking of, Egypt could roll over them in a week.
B.) They have no major economic interests in the middle east, aside from oil interests, as their economy is at least partially driven by industry, although primarily service based.
C.) They are primarily a Socialist Democracy, with some forms of economic redistribution, a moderately high income tax rate, and fairly moderate prices on Petrol. They have no issues with religion, as long as those religions do not harm others. I’d say Islam qualifies as harmful if taken without food and drink.
D.) Denmark has no real interest in the middle east, at all. The primary sparking point would be some rather interesting folks, who care to push their economic agenda or their social agenda upon the European continent.
E.) This could spell dire towards the M|E anyhow. A Europe with it’s industries and population, sufficiently threatened via outside occurences, CAN mobilize defensive and offensive industries, and pump as much military mobilization as my fair US can.
F.) Quite honestly a religion of peace wouldn’t push the whole sale slaughter of any outsiders, religions have a tendency to corrupt, and Muhammed, being the founder of Islam, apparently corrupts absolutely.
G.) I like pork, and I like chicken. So eat more Pork-N-Chicken.
—
Osi Dela Norte Del Noche Con Fuego
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Bite me, I giggle.
February 24th, 2006 at 1:22 am
Not so funny now, huh? Making fun of someone else’s touchy subject is OK as long as that someone is Muslim. Or brown. The holocaust is nothing to joke about. But neither is classifying an entire religion as terrorists. Don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
No the entire moslem religion is not terorist. Only 90% of mosques are practice Wahabbism (google it) I’m sure the remaining ten percent are quite nice people.
February 28th, 2006 at 7:49 am
I think the point being is we tend to make sure jokes about jews are kept out of newspapers because they get labeled as anti-semitic, which brings everything to a screeching halt. But some how it was ok to print a satire about someones prophet. Sorry to say but the media has been hypocritical. No making fun of the holocaust is not funny. Yes they did make a point. That point being that we only care about the feelings of certain groups.
February 28th, 2006 at 8:56 am
Making fun about Muhammed is not ok, as is not ok for making fun about the jews, but the point of media was that you don’t die making jokes about jews, but definitely you die if you’re joking about Muhammed, islam, or muslims.
It was not so hard to understand.
February 28th, 2006 at 9:16 am
ISLAM THE BIGGEST JEWISH CONSPIRACY
ARABS ARE SAND NIGGERS
February 28th, 2006 at 11:07 am
You may not die making fun of jews, but you’ll definetly go to jail for denying the holocaust! That is an attack on freedom of speech. But we ignore that one! If people in western countries began getting arrested for denying the existance of mohammed everyone would be up in arms telling the muslims to calm down and take a chill pill. But then again isnt that whats happening to the palestinian people? They are being denied their homeland, and then being told to take a chill pill so to speak, and any peep from them is automatically a terrorism. This is a sad double standard where we have demonized an entire group of people.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
Hmm, I don’t think you go to jail if you deny the holocaust. And I remind you what I write before, you don’t die from that, but if you say something wrong about Muhammed you die. (this is happening allready)
But the issue is not here. The atacs from 9/11 and all that came after, was made by muslims, this you can not deny. And if you don’t like me saying that it was made by muslims, than I should say it was made by arabs. Definitely was not made by christians, hindu or others. So the idea of associating terorism with Allah or Muhammed is not that wrong.
Stop blaming the others, think what you do, and ask yourself if you are tolerant! Of course that we are governed by interests of the rich and powerful people, but we are intelligent enough to see that and to act according to our principles. Or at least that is what all the peoples should do.
February 28th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
And is not a good comparison between holochaust and Alah.
Holocaust was something real, made by human hands, something like the cruciades, and Islam is a religion like any other religion on this earth. It is not better nor worse.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:52 pm
Geez, what a lame joke. There’s no punchline. Make a cartoon about big noses or Jew gold and i’ll get it for God’s sake.
March 3rd, 2006 at 6:29 pm
man this page seems full of stupid responces.
where to begin…
you may laugh at the holocaust. as a jew, i aprove.
you may dont deny the holocaust. just as you may not deny the deah of millions of armenians at the hands of the otoman empire. denial of the first led to the second. mistakes forgotten tend to repeat themselves and we really REALLY R-E-A-L-L-Y dont want another one of those.
as for our local conflict here (israel). it’s a local conflict. you should be taking care of more dire humanitarian conditions, like zimbabwe. make peace here when you’ve solved hunger and AIDS in africa. 50 dead a month (on both sides) doesn’t justify this. we have more dead to bad driving here!
as for laughing at some religion. this isn’t freedom of expression. it’s freedom from religion. without this europe may as well be iran.
March 8th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
6m. how many at the russian gulag and who were the original guards? how many in Vietnam? How many in african genocide? why we are reminded always of the 6m
March 9th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
“as for laughing at some religion. this isn’t freedom of expression. it’s freedom from religion. without this europe may as well be iran.”
I read the comment #32 boazg, and I cant hold my self to say that these words are realy the best. It is the simpliest but the clearest idea ever told.
In fact, all my comments are resuming to this:
“as for laughing at some religion. this isn’t freedom of expression. it’s freedom from religion. without this europe may as well be iran.”
March 17th, 2006 at 9:33 am
GOOD FOR THEM! Lets see how how much we westerners are willing to stand by our freedom of speach. Also, I think the reaction towards the Passion of the Christ was just as rediculas.
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November 14th, 2006 at 7:53 am
LOL! That is the funniest cartoon I have seen in years!!
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