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]]> By: sidfaiwu http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/08/01/common-sense-and-christianity/comment-page-2/#comment-7744 sidfaiwu Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:49:54 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/08/01/common-sense-and-christianity/#comment-7744 Hello Matthew, It seems that <a href="http://www.abortionfacts.com/reardon/statistics.asp" rel="nofollow">income is a factor</a> in abortion rates. Women tend to be poor at the time of their abortions. Note, however, that women tend to be <em>young</em> at the time of their abortions, which is tied to both the likelihood of abortion and income. This will skew the results. A more telling stat would be abortion rates by education level obtained. From the link above I found abortions by education level: EDUCATION LEVEL No Answer...................5% Under 12 yrs................6% High School (12 yrs)........39% Associate or Trade (13-14)..26% Bachelors (15-16)...........19% Masters (17-18).............4% Ph.D. (>18).................1% I decided to add a little more value to these results by weighting each category by the percentage of women who obtained each of these education levels. I found the stats on the website for the <a href="http://nces.ed.gov/index.asp" rel="nofollow">National Center for Education Statistics</a> and pulled them from one of their annual report from 2005. The actual table is linked <a href="http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d05/tables/dt05_009.asp" rel="nofollow">here</a>. After the weighting I get the following results (rounded to the nearest whole percent): No Answer...................5% Under 12 yrs................3% High School (12 yrs)........73% Associate or Trade (13-14)..8% Bachelors (15-16)...........11% Masters (17-18).............0% Ph.D. (>18).................0% Note that this analysis is in no way scientific (I had to make a lot of assumptions about each survey), it just serves to demonstrate that education level seems to be an important factor. Another thing to think about is the unwanted pregnancy rates by each income group. Sure, a smaller percentage of poor women may not have the means to get an abortion, but they probably have a very high rate of unwanted pregnancies. The product of the two rates would combine to determine the actual abortion rate. So don't rule out poverty as a contributing factor. Hello Matthew,

It seems that income is a factor in abortion rates. Women tend to be poor at the time of their abortions. Note, however, that women tend to be young at the time of their abortions, which is tied to both the likelihood of abortion and income. This will skew the results. A more telling stat would be abortion rates by education level obtained. From the link above I found abortions by education level:

EDUCATION LEVEL

No Answer……………….5%
Under 12 yrs…………….6%
High School (12 yrs)……..39%
Associate or Trade (13-14)..26%
Bachelors (15-16)………..19%
Masters (17-18)………….4%
Ph.D. (>18)……………..1%

I decided to add a little more value to these results by weighting each category by the percentage of women who obtained each of these education levels. I found the stats on the website for the National Center for Education Statistics and pulled them from one of their annual report from 2005. The actual table is linked here. After the weighting I get the following results (rounded to the nearest whole percent):

No Answer……………….5%
Under 12 yrs…………….3%
High School (12 yrs)……..73%
Associate or Trade (13-14)..8%
Bachelors (15-16)………..11%
Masters (17-18)………….0%
Ph.D. (>18)……………..0%

Note that this analysis is in no way scientific (I had to make a lot of assumptions about each survey), it just serves to demonstrate that education level seems to be an important factor.

Another thing to think about is the unwanted pregnancy rates by each income group. Sure, a smaller percentage of poor women may not have the means to get an abortion, but they probably have a very high rate of unwanted pregnancies. The product of the two rates would combine to determine the actual abortion rate. So don’t rule out poverty as a contributing factor.

]]> By: Your Father http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/08/01/common-sense-and-christianity/comment-page-2/#comment-7741 Your Father Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:21:40 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/08/01/common-sense-and-christianity/#comment-7741 While you're attacking root causes of abortions, why stop at poverty. How about the christian mindset toward sex and sex education? Christians don't preach safe sex... they preach no sex, but kids are going to have sex no matter what they say. The only problem is, that when they do have sex, despite christian morallity, and a large number do, some don't practice safe sex because they've only been taught not to have it. Not only that, but some girls out their would rather abort than admit they've been bad christians. Abstinence worked before safe sex practices were around, and now it's outdated, but because it is tied in with christian values, it won't go away. While you’re attacking root causes of abortions, why stop at poverty. How about the christian mindset toward sex and sex education? Christians don’t preach safe sex… they preach no sex, but kids are going to have sex no matter what they say. The only problem is, that when they do have sex, despite christian morallity, and a large number do, some don’t practice safe sex because they’ve only been taught not to have it. Not only that, but some girls out their would rather abort than admit they’ve been bad christians.

Abstinence worked before safe sex practices were around, and now it’s outdated, but because it is tied in with christian values, it won’t go away.

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