This story was too good to pass up on. Over the last few days in India, Hindu statues have apparently been drinking milk by the liter in temples all over. Millions of devout followers have stormed the temples with milk causing shortages in many places.
Now I find this fascinating on several fronts. First, this is much different than the usual Jesus or Mary sightings that we have here in the US. Occasionally we have the statue of Mary that weeps, but this is different as it appears to happen at many places and was verified by thousands. The first thing that came to mind was where are the pictures or video of this "miracle"? Well I have found one and it’s quite fascinating. Go ahead and give it a whirl!
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Secondly, I was blown away by people’s acceptance of this event as a miracle or a sign from God. Scientists were quick to point out that this is nothing more than surface tension and capillary action at work. But followers will here none of that as it diminishes their personal miracle. It seems that people just want to believe so bad that all logic and reason is just carelessly discarded. This incident should be viewed through sharp contrasts in education among India’s billion-plus people. Abhilasha Kumari, a sociologist in New Dehli, said it best…
Many people in India straddle two different worlds one world of scientific education and high-tech jobs versus another steeped in their centuries-old beliefs in supernatural phenomena. And they see no contradiction in this.
I’d love to hear from some readers in India on this. Do you believe this was a miracle or science in action?
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August 24th, 2006 at 11:18 am
From Wikipedia:
“Seeking to explain the phenomenon, scientists from India’s Ministry of Science and Technology travelled to a temple in New Delhi and made an offering of milk containing a food colouring. As the level of liquid in the spoon dropped, it became obvious that after the milk disappeared from the spoon, it coated the statue beneath where the spoon was placed. With this result, the scientists offered capillary action as an explanation; the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue. This explanation did nothing to reduce the numbers of faithful rushing to the temples, however, and queues of people carrying pots, pans, and buckets of milk continued to gather.”
Do they not notice the large pools of milk gathering at the bases of these statues? Seriously, I’m open to the idea of miracles happening, but if some ass-clown called me over to my church to show me how a Jesus statue (not that my church has one) was drinking milk, I’d say, “Yeah, looks like He’s real thirsty, there. So thirsty, in fact, that He’s letting it all dribble right down His chin! Now quit wasting my time and clean up the mess He made all over the carpet.”
August 24th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
I think it would be more appropriate to say “carefully”. I recall ignoring the obvious when I was once religious. Never did I once observe anything supernatural, but I told myself and others that I did. I knew it was self-deception but facing reality seemed so hard.
August 24th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
good question about the statues leaking…
wonder if it’s a miracle if the urinate? then they’d hace two great wonders in one :)
having spend some time in India, it is indeed strange to see someone who is properly educated and knows about the climate and such, make an offering to the gods for rain…
This is their way of live, religion is still totally integrated into life, instead of the Church — Life seperation we see in the west
August 24th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
think the statues will smell funny and start cracking apart in time?
August 25th, 2006 at 2:13 am
The problem rears it’s head when sometimes the idols drink milk and sometimes not. If this is just capillary action and surface tension then the idols should appear to drink milk all the time. But that does not happen. Makes you wonder. :)
August 25th, 2006 at 6:48 am
RE:5 No it does not. I probably have to do whit the humidity in the air and how saturated the statues are.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:07 am
I wonder if any other orifice also drinks milk. If the statue is indeed pourous, and capillary action takes place on any pourous flat vertical surface… then the nose could drink too..etc.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:52 am
Obviously, science in action. But that hasn’t stopped people from believing in “miracles”.
Couple of days, there was another story about the sea tasting sweet in Mumbai and whole bunch of people claimed it was a “miracle”. Others were too busy trying to explain that it was only flood waters from neighboring state and it is not healthy to drink the water.
I guess it is in the psyche of human mind. If it can’t be explained by your own mind, then it is must be a miracle. Never mind the saner explanations from billion other minds.
August 27th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Early in that clip, you can clearly see the milk dribbling down the statues chin!! Oh gee, some miracle!! I’m ashamed to be of Indian descent when I see this kind of idiotic stuff!
August 30th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
I agree that there should be a bit of surface tension. But having given the milk by myself, i need to tell you that the amount of milk given on those specified days, was so much that it cannot account for a small pool of milk. It is easy to criticize by sitting near a computer and commenting on a clip. I suggest the readers to introspect little further that many very educated youths (esp. in physics) were baffelled by this event as we all saw that it is more than some physical phenomenon
August 30th, 2006 at 10:12 pm
Let me add further, that many idols which drank the milk refused to consume in future days. If it is a simple principle of surface tension, where was those surface tension went on other ordinary days?
August 31st, 2006 at 12:09 am
“I agree that there should be a bit of surface tension. But having given the milk by myself, i need to tell you that the amount of milk given on those specified days, was so much that it cannot account for a small pool of milk. It is easy to criticize by sitting near a computer and commenting on a clip. I suggest the readers to introspect little further that many very educated youths (esp. in physics) were baffelled by this event as we all saw that it is more than some physical phenomenon”
It’s also easy to criticize by living in the real world. Even if it wasn’t surface tension, which I’m fairly sure it was, why assume it’s some kind the phenomonon is caused by something supernatural, instead of something scientific that no one’s thought of yet?
September 14th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
“I recall ignoring the obvious when I was once religious. Never did I once observe anything supernatural, but I told myself and others that I did.”
I have observed many things supernatural that have no obvious explanation even after careful consideration. I would say that telling others that you have seen such things when in fact you didn’t is one of the reasons people have a hard time believing any “miracle” or supernatural event, even if it is true.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:26 am
Yeah, I’m as Indian as they come and I was appalled to see the kind of widespread curiosity this ‘miracle’ commanded. In my city, the enthusiasm ebbed significantly when some college students demonstrated that the idols were indiscriminately ‘drinking’ whatever was offered (including beer and tadi - a local Indian liquor) to them.
They were castigated for their impiety, but it did the trick.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:14 pm
people listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what r u doing?
How can a statu drink something?
Science can explain it very easily
i `ve seen tons of people going to temples in india on some indian news channel, but i only saw milk dripping from the spoon to the ground.i didn`tn see thing which will convince me any way to believe in this “miracle”.well .i just want to let u know that it is very stupid to believe in these things. How can a statu which we human creat would be a God. It is only a statu,it can`t hear thing,it can`t talk,than why do u guys call it a god.
no offence but i need an explanation, can someone provide me with an explanation,plz contact me on this id(rani_b111@yahoo.co.uk). Most of humans including my self believe that God is greatest of all ,than how can the god be looking like an elephant etc. how can god be looking like an animal? if the spirit of god lyes in an ordinary statu who controls the rest of the world.why would a God will need a statu to keep his spirit? why can`t he be any where without having been seen. why do you guys have to worship an idol which can`t even look after itself. God can do anything and can`t look after himself,it is weired ,ain`t it? e.g. if a statu falls on the floor ,no offence, and breaks would the spirit be gone. u see god as statu can`t look after itself than how do u expect it to look after you and listen to ur prayers, u can worship god without seeing him only if u r a true believer.so please please and please search other religions and try ur very best to follow the right one. there r so many religions e.g. christianity,islam,jewism sikhism ,hinduism etc……… but trust me is u search all the religions with a pure heart , the knowledge will be sent to u by the un seen almighty Allah. and trust me u will become a well practising muslim. so plz, plz search other religions . may Allah help u find the right one .
May 1st, 2007 at 1:58 pm
stupidshindus how the fucku think a status can drink milk lol
May 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pm
How can a statu which we human creat would be a God. It is only a statu,it can`t hear thing,it can`t talk,than why do u guys call it a god.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
let me tell you something. this is what happens when people start blindly believing. hinduism is not a religion of idiots; they have been offering their gods milk for centuries. it is not because anyone thinks that they are actually feeding a rock. it has always been regarded as a symbolic gesture.
and for those of you who ask “oh, how can you worship a statue?”, no one is worshipping the statue. they are worshipping an idea. isn’t that what god is, an idea? the different gods are different manifestations, different aspects of the one true universal spirit, the SINGLE god, called brahma, the creator. that, in it’s essence, is the basis of hinduism. praying to a god or a statue is like praying to one of god’s many personalities. to hindus, god is everywhere; he transcends what is tangible; he is the universal soul, and that is unfathomable for people. by representing him in a human/animal/whateverfashionpleasesthem, it is easier for them to comprehend, and thus easier to accept. haven’t humans always tried to rationalize and chose the easiest solution?
oh, what a shocker, hindus are monotheistic, i guess we were wrong about the whole ‘pagan’ thing. maybe if you just opened your eyes and saw the whole concept before you start talking (or typing in this case), it might just make sense.
and who is anyone to comment on belief?
so gabriel sends muhammed a message from god (in his dreams), and what he says must be accepted as truth? let’s forget about the fact that as a merchant, muhammed was WELL acquainted with christianity and judaism, and from his wanderings in the desert, and as he lay to sleep in the cave, he could have had a dream!? so it could have in fact been that his beliefs had manifested them in his subconscious, in his dreams. but then again, it could have happened, you can never know.
but thats not what matters, is it? that is not the POINT of the religion. religion is merely a tool to bring people closer to god. people create religious stories with symbols as a a way for them to accept god, and in the end, all that matters is whether or not you acknowledge him, not whether or not you think statues can drink milk or that jesus created miracles. the problem stems from when people take a radical perspective, and believe everything without understanding the symbolism and the meaning of it all.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
“religion is merely a tool to bring people closer to god.”
Most of here dont believe in a god, so religion is even more useless to us.
“and who is anyone to comment on belief?”
Just because its someone’s belief doesnt mean it is for some reason above questioning. If you dont discuss things like this you are just blindly following what everyone else tells you.
May 11th, 2007 at 1:45 am
“and who is anyone to comment on belief?â€
Well, if your belief is to hack me to pieces because I don’t share it I think I can comment on it and not respect it.
May 14th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
this religion is soooo fake. shall i tell you why, take the idol and throw it on the ground what happens?…. so can you fix him or can he fix him self, so what happens to the spirits in side it.
let me tell you some thing i wont waste my time or your time. Change your religion. change it to any of the 3 followings Islam, Jew or chrisitian. You know why because we believe in 1 God and that he is every where and cant be seen. not like your fake Elephants or Rats or 8 arms men or the sun or human. ask your selfs 1 QUESTION WHY DO I BELIEVE IN ANIMAL OR STATUS? wake you people before its tooooooooooooo late. PEACE OUT
May 14th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
“Change your religion. change it to any of the 3 followings Islam, Jew or chrisitian.”
Thats gotta be the worst evangelism iv ever heard. the fact is its hard to change your faith, in the same way you cant understand believing in this god i cant understand believing in yours.
May 17th, 2007 at 6:34 am
This is Fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all u there don’t believe this…..
really funny!!!!!!!!!!!
May 17th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
“This is Fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
So are the miracles the Qur’an and Bible. You don’t believe either of those, do you? It’d be “really funny!!!!!!!!!!!” if people didn’t kill each other over those books.
May 18th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Isn’t this an opportunity to be condescending and superior to our ex-colonials? (Sorry America)I mean, how the hell does this sort of nonsense get any air-time? Anyone in Britain will reply to this with the old English cry of “Bollocks!”. Yesterday I drank several pints of warm beer - does this make me Vishnu?
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:27 pm
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June 22nd, 2007 at 2:16 pm
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July 3rd, 2007 at 7:23 pm
why is it so hard for so many of you to accept this as a miracle?
July 11th, 2007 at 2:29 am
RELIGION IS MAN MADE. AS SAID BEFORE IT IS A TOOL (WHICH MAN MADE) TO BRING PPL CLOSER TO GOD. WHAT IS GOD? WHO IS GOD? ASK YOUSELF THIS QUESTION, DEFINIE GOD? IT SHOULDN’T MATTER WHAT YOUR RELGIION IS AND OR WHO YOU PRAY TO, WHAT SHOULD MATTER IS THAT YOU DO GOOD AND LOOK AT OTHERS AS IF THEY TOO ARE A PART OF GOD, CUZ WE ALL ARE. BLESS!!!
July 19th, 2007 at 6:33 am
Logic is man made and buried in mind– the feeble mind.
You can have your logic and toss the word gods around as counterfeit money. These people are alive and beautiful. Belief and beauty will always surpass–black logic. All logic is ill without this, the zero.
But really you’re insufferable. Keep your English death.
And to those of you who are intolerant to other’s faith, it only speaks to weakness of yours. It’s idiocy to speak of theirs when you haven’t any idea or perception of their language or religion. Stop envagilizing, it’s really disheartening to see you spreading your own misery onto others.
July 19th, 2007 at 7:57 am
Pass the joint Stefan, you’ve had enough.
July 20th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
May peace be upon you all. I am always a skeptic of all things, however I do believe that idols of our Hindu brothers were drinking milk. I did not see this with my own eyes, but I have many Hindu friends that were eye witness to this phenomenon, and these people were of high character.
In Islam, there is a very easy explanation and reason for this. Just as when Moses (May peace be upon him) descended from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments, he found the very people he gave the message of One God to, worshipping an idol of a golden calf. The Israelites told Moses that the golden calf miraculously was saying “moo”, and that there must be divine intervention in this amazing account.
Just like the mooing of the golden calf, the weeping Mary (May peace be upon her) and the thirsty idols, there is an intervention of some sort, and this has been confused with divine intervention.
In Islam, we believe in the Jinn. The Jinn are invisible creatures that we share this temporal plane with. In Biblical terms, we can call them demons. Although Satan is a Jinn, not all Jinn are bad. The sole purpose of the evil Jinn (followers of Satan) are to mislead mankind. The easiest way for them to mislead mankind is to trick us into worshipping other than One God, without partners. In Islam, associating anyone or anything with God is the most devious sin.
The Jinn are very powerful, and are capable of entering into people (demonic possession) or entering into objects (statues, pictures etc…) That is why the golden calf said moo, Mary weeps, and the idols drink milk. We then attribute divine attributes to things man made, and take away these attributes from what made man.
Information on Jinn, Islam and Tawheed (worshipping God without partners) is readily available. Visit any of your local mosques, entry is available to all. You can find one at http://www.islamicfinder.net
Jazakallah - all thanks are to God, and thank you all for my opportunity to write this.
shaanjohri@hotmail.com
August 13th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
After reading all the postings, I am a bit astonished of some of the ignorance plastered all over this thing. Some of you really need to address serious issues dealing with faith. Whether this is a miracle or a scientific explaination, the real phenomenon is that those people believed in what they saw, what they experienced and that gave them more faith in themselves and in thier religion. It’s not about figuring out if this is hoax or not, but it’s about realizing how strong and powerful we can become if we just choose to believe. Belief in anything will obtain power. I did go to the temple and I tried this and the statues drank the milk. I understand all this about the scientific explainations, but some things are better left as a miracle, for what it is. The Hindu religion teaches the utmost faith in oneself and in god will bring happiness to one. I have lived by this my whole life and I see this as true. People, who we are and what we believe is all we really have in this world, what gives anyone the right to take that away?? for all you ignorance people who don’t know a damn thing about society, about faith, about belief, you should not post anything about Hinduism. I can’t believe someone on here would actually say change your religion and make fun of what Hindus believe. You need to stop being scared of what you don’t know and take the time to unlearn your stupidity and try to be educated. As far as this miracle, I do believe it was a miracle and I do believe strongly in my faith and what I believe, believe god was showing us how powerful we can become if we just keep believing.
August 13th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Jen
“You need to stop being scared of what you don’t know and take the time to unlearn your stupidity and try to be educated”
Some of us one here would say the same thing to you. Further have faith in something that is false only leads someone to believe in a lie and spread that lie further. To deny a truth or fail to investigate a cause of something so far unexplained denies us knowledge that will help us remove our own ignorance. Faith is one thing. Faith in something untrue is potentially very dangerous.
Cheers
Simon Bond
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:12 pm
I am reading an awful lot of criticism here. It is one thing to comment on the event at hand another thing to completely criticize someone else’s religious beliefs.
I don’t think the statues was drinking the milk nor do I believe in the milk evaporating on a hot day or whatever reasons some of these scientist were coming up with for this event. The majority of those scientific explanations sounded more miraculous than the said miracle itself.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:05 am
Hello Lucid Mark,
What’s wrong with criticizing someone’s religious beliefs? Why is that system of human thought any different from others? You wouldn’t object to anyone criticizing the excesses of capitalism, the intractable abstractness of modern art, the philosophy of utilitarianism, or Russian foreign policy, would you? Granted, you may disagree with the criticism, and the religious are welcome to do so. But you wouldn’t say that we shouldn’t criticize these things.
So I ask again, what makes religious thought so special that no one should criticize it?
September 1st, 2007 at 5:43 am
Dear Gita,
Post 18, you’re absolutely right!
“oh, what a shocker, hindus are monotheistic,” Only One God, that’s divided into several units.
And also about the statues being abstract, it’s to have something to focus on, it’s only material.
You’re one of the few who has adequate knowledge of Hinduism, you’re a good person. Keep it ip!
Ash
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:58 pm
God does not want any graven image of himself…this is the devil in disguise.
“You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth” (Exodus 20:4 KJV)
The bible says in 2nd cor 11:14-15 says that satan and his angels also appears as angels of Light…
This is simply the work of satan and hes here to deceive many. To know read the bible the infallible word of God. The bible says you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Who is the truth? Jesus. He has defeated the devil on the cross and hes given us the right to become the son of God.
email me on enuff2ng@yahoo.com if the Holyspirit has touched your heart. Jesus is Lord.
Jeremiah 10
September 24th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Allow me to translate JehovahGod’s comment:
“The Bullshit in the picture above is evil according to my Bullshit. If you happen to like Bullshit, pick mine. Mine is not evil.”
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 am
let we all learn about ourself first, then we would understand things better.
Understand that the answer you all looking for lies beneath yourserlf.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 am
Nooo, actually learning to understand things better would help us to understand things better.
October 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Alcari, maybe post 40 is referring to those turtles underneath us. And the ones underneath them…
:-)
October 25th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
I am trying to understand why this happened. I know the whole surface tension explanation, but where does the water go if it isn’t puddled on the floor? Absorbed? How would it be absorbed into a metal statue? Why does it only happen at certain times?
I have taken a bunch of college physics classes, so I’m not completely ignorant when it comes to that kind of stuff.. but I can’t figure out where the milk is going.
It’s pretty clear in the first part of the video that milk is dripping down the front.. I think the guy just spilled it because I’ve seen other videos where you cannot see anything running down the statue or on the floor.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:19 am
Comment 39 is amazing…I totally agree…You rock sidfaiwu!!!
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Stupid Muslims…read this—> http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Stupid Christians…read this—> http://www.whydoesgodhateamputees.com/
October 28th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
hehe, bookmarked for future reading, great sites.
November 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Man u muslims and chritians can have a god , their messengers and angels and whatever else but when it comes to hindu religion then you become such sceptics. the problem is that you people from islam and chritianity have this in your nature and it has been there for same thousands of years. why do you think there are so many muslims and christians in the world… it’s bcoz your religions were forced upon people “mostly” and your religions are full of bullshit that you people cant see past. hinduism is not a religion but a collection of teaching you people will never understand the depths of even if you tried coz thats who you are. ask a hindu about your religion and he will atleast be able to say something about it but ask a non hindu such as muslims or christian about hinduism and all you get is that there are so many gods in hinduism. from what i can figure out is that hinduism is structured more like a govt of a country where each minister is incharge of an area of responsibility…and above those are the 3 presidents or prime ministers if u like…one for creation , one for preservation and one for afterlife. in this life while you are living the most important would be the prserver of the universe for the duration of it’s existence and the destroyer is equally as important coz that’s where your afterlife is headed. life in universal sense is very very short mind u. now it is said that even they (3 lords)dont last for ever and are replaced when the universe as we know ends and creation restarts…meaning nothing lasts forever. now beyond the 3 top beings (even hindus dont call them god in that sense but refer to them as lord mostly) is the real begining and that is god “if u like”..the begining of creation and what that is is up to u to find out. now coming up with stuff like gods son and allah is not any different then hindus coming up with their concepts. jesus didnt even look like we are shown to believe and their statues are worshipped…what hypocrits. has any one from either islam or chritianity ever tried to find out how much their religions lag behind the knowlegde imparted by hinduism or you all just plain stupid having your religion forced upon u too. i have muslim mates and i know a lot about islam and even know how to pray in islam i.e the words to their prayers from a-z and have gone to chritian camps and therefore know a lot about it as well as i took part in bible quizzes and i have been to hindu prayers and gathering … and i must tell you that, boy is there a difference in the way knowledge about things are imparted especially between islam and hinduism. in islam they put down other religions (namely chritians and hindus)in their gatherings, just to prove a point about their religious point of view…but if you go to a hindu gathering the preacher would actually refer to a quote in the bible or koran to impart further knowledge, if he wants to make his point about something. man what a diff. chritians don’t know any better than themselves in a way..you people should watch penn & teller??? the magicians talk about the facts in the bible. anyway the closest any religion comes to explain about the origins of the universe as argued by science is hinduism ..which was written thousands of years earlier ..now please islam on that topic..please heard and read it all before.. and i say no comparision…and that’s a fact. muslims are the worst.. they have to put down others to feel better about themselves and at times christians as well but you don’t see such things coming from hindus coz they don’t give a shit about the crap that islam teaches or chritianity for that matter…coz non of those religions come close to the depth of spiritual knowledge imparted by hinduism. as for the suckers sitting at your computers writting stuff you dont know about … hear it from me ..a non hindu.. i was a skeptic when i heard about this in 1995 and so went to an indian mates house ..as i go to a muslim mates house for eid and a chritian mates house for christmas and yes i have a muslims and christians in my wider family relations. anyway i fed milk (a table spoon)to a brass statue of ganesh which was about 4inches tall “at the most” and this is in new zealand..along with about 20 other people and i tried again and again and it drank all the milk…whats interesting is that i did not even touch the spoon to ganeshs trunk but held it few mm away. a brass statue must i remind you. that has never happen again after about those 2-3 days, even though we have tried it. as for one comment about it drinking anything ya so what it’s your karma that counts at the end and not what the statue would refuse to drink. statues are a symbol of our menifestation and artistic expression of our beliefs and the best way to bring it to life. statues in hindu temples are awakened through prayers and rituals for days before it is open to the public. could sound stupid to some but thats what i mean …the religion is so powerful it shows in the nature of hindus itself…if you know what i mean. hinduism is not practised the same around different parts of india nor around the world for that matter but thats what makes it so great as a religion. the muslims could not conquer hinduism for hundreds of years even through their violence like they did to other religions in other countries and converted them to islam…why coz that’s the power of good over evil. could go on forever but it’s a shame people are so ignorant about hinduism. again i’m not religious or a hindu…but from the knowlegde i have gained and there’s only two or 3 proper ways of gaining proper knowlegde.. to me the depth of hindu philosophy is the essence of it’s beauty. Don’t hate any religion but just fail to understand the arrogance and ignorance of people associated with some. final words…i was at a hindu female mates house 1995 with 5 other mates when i was told about what was happening…so this happened next….a “BRASS” statue 3-4 inches tall and about 20 people fed it milk , as did i and not a drop fell on the surface supporting the statue. “did not touch it to ganeshs trunk like i see some people did, but the milk went in seconds” ..tried it 3 times.. now that has not happen with that statue a day after that and ever since. this was the time it was reported around the world a day or two earlier. how lucky was i. for those who are skeptical well you should be, coz u missed out. maybe next time in some other life. those that talk about science a lot will never understand the teaching of great saints ..who were not stupid people as u see from their knowledge. hinduism is not a religion per se but full of teaching enlightened people from thousands of years…long before islam or christianity or any other mordern religion existed. so go out and read a lil more peolpe before u comment on things with your controlled minds. will never happen i know but anyway…. peace!
November 4th, 2007 at 2:08 am
Ahmed the 8 arms and 8 heads you talking about is the different menifestations or attributes ..if that’s that right word to use of a depicted diety and not the actual appearance u dumbass muslim. I’d rather believe in hinduism then islam or christianity anytime. koran and the bible was written many many years ( 300 hundred in islam after the so called people were actually alive idiot)..so get your own facts right first. The jinn in islam as someone said above or the devil in chritianity depicts these events of milk drinking …mate history is evidence of the evil past’s of islam and christianity …..which hasn’t changed since those religions came into existence and that’s hard fact. unlike hindu’s and hinduism in comparision. me as a non hindu or religious person can see the hard facts and just laugh at the people following hundreds of years of doctored text by caliphs in islam or the romans to the bible. what a shame. there’s no real facts on any of about those man outside the revelations of bible or the koran to actually write a single page.
November 4th, 2007 at 9:56 am
fedupman,
If after reading your rantings you are a spokesperson for Hinuism, that would be the best reason not to partake! Though I am certain you made sense to yourself! I hope you live in a state that allows people to carry guns & protect themselves.
November 4th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Fedupman, please, try that again with some spelling and, proper intepunction and paragraphs. I can’t (and won’t) read walls of text like that.
November 4th, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Man u muslims and chritians can have a god , their messengers and angels and whatever else but when it comes to hindu religion then you become such skeptics. The problem is that you people from islam and chritianity have this in your nature and it has been there for same thousands of years. Why do you think there are so many muslims and christians in the world… it’s bcoz your religions were forced upon people “mostly†and your religions are full of bullshit that you people cant see past.
Hinduism is not a religion but a collection of teaching you people will never understand the depths of even if you tried coz thats who you are. Ask a hindu about your religion and he will atleast be able to say something about it but ask a non hindu such as muslims or christian about hinduism and all you get is that there are so many gods in hinduism. From what i can figure out is that hinduism is structured more like a govt of a country where each minister is incharge of an area of responsibility…and above those are the 3 presidents or prime ministers if u like…one for creation , one for preservation and one for afterlife.
In this life while you are living the most important would be the prserver of the universe for the duration of it’s existence and the destroyer is equally as important coz that’s where your afterlife is headed. Life in universal sense is very very short mind u.
Now it is said that even they (3 lords)dont last for ever and are replaced when the universe as we know ends and creation restarts…meaning nothing lasts forever. Now beyond the 3 top beings (even hindus dont call them god in that sense but refer to them as lord mostly) is the real begining and that is god “if u likeâ€..the begining of creation and what that is is up to u to find out. Now coming up with stuff like gods son and allah is not any different then hindus coming up with their concepts. Jesus didnt even look like we are shown to believe and their statues are worshipped…what hypocrits.
Has any one from either islam or chritianity ever tried to find out how much their religions lag behind the knowlegde imparted by hinduism or you all just plain stupid having your religion forced upon u too. I have muslim mates and i know a lot about islam and even know how to pray in islam i.e the words to their prayers from a-z and have gone to chritian camps and therefore know a lot about it as well as i took part in bible quizzes and i have been to hindu prayers and gathering … and i must tell you that, boy is there a difference in the way knowledge about things are imparted especially between islam and hinduism.
In islam they put down other religions (namely chritians and hindus)in their gatherings, just to prove a point about their religious point of view…but if you go to a hindu gathering the preacher would actually refer to a quote in the bible or koran to impart further knowledge, if he wants to make his point about something. Man what a diff.
Chritians don’t know any better than themselves in a way..you people should watch penn & teller??? the magicians talk about the facts in the bible. Anyway the closest any religion comes to explain about the origins of the universe as argued by science is hinduism ..which was written thousands of years earlier ..now please islam on that topic..please heard and read it all before.. and i say no comparision…and that’s a fact.
Muslims are the worst.. they have to put down others to feel better about themselves and at times christians as well but you don’t see such things coming from hindus coz they don’t give a shit about the crap that islam teaches or chritianity for that matter…coz non of those religions come close to the depth of spiritual knowledge imparted by hinduism.
As for the suckers sitting at your computers writting stuff you dont know about … hear it from me ..a non hindu.. i was a skeptic when i heard about this in 1995 and so went to an indian mates house ..as i go to a muslim mates house for eid and a chritian mates house for christmas and yes i have a muslims and christians in my wider family relations.
Anyway i fed milk (a table spoon)to a brass statue of ganesh which was about 4inches tall “at the most†and this is in new zealand..along with about 20 other people and i tried again and again and it drank all the milk…whats interesting is that i did not even touch the spoon to ganeshs trunk but held it few mm away. A brass statue must i remind you. That has never happen again after about those 2-3 days, even though we have tried it.
As for one comment about it drinking anything ya so what it’s your karma that counts at the end and not what the statue would refuse to drink. Statues are a symbol of our menifestation and artistic expression of our beliefs and the best way to bring it to life. Statues in hindu temples are awakened through prayers and rituals for days before it is open to the public. Could sound stupid to some but thats what i mean …the religion is so powerful it shows in the nature of hindus itself…if you know what i mean.
Hinduism is not practised the same around different parts of india nor around the world for that matter but thats what makes it so great as a religion. The muslims could not conquer hinduism for hundreds of years even through their violence like they did to other religions in other countries and converted them to islam…why coz that’s the power of good over evil. Could go on forever but it’s a shame people are so ignorant about hinduism.
Again i’m not religious or a hindu…but from the knowlegde i have gained and there’s only two or 3 proper ways of gaining proper knowlegde.. to me the depth of hindu philosophy is the essence of it’s beauty. Don’t hate any religion but just fail to understand the arrogance and ignorance of people associated with some.
Final words…i was at a hindu female mates house 1995 with 5 other mates when i was told about what was happening…so this happened next…a “BRASS†statue 3-4 inches tall and about 20 people fed it milk , as did i and not a drop fell on the surface supporting the statue…. “did not touch it to ganeshs trunk like i see some people did, but the milk went in seconds†..tried it 3 times.. now that has not happen with that statue a day after that and ever since. This was the time it was reported around the world a day or two earlier. How lucky was i.
For those who are skeptical well you should be, coz u missed out. Maybe next time in some other life. Those that talk about science a lot will never understand the teaching of great saints ..who were not stupid people as u see from their knowledge. Hinduism is not a religion per se but full of teaching from enlightened people from thousands of years…long before islam or christianity or any other mordern religion existed. So go out and read a lil more peolpe before u comment on things with your controlled minds. Will never happen i know but anyway…. peace!
That’s all i can do for you for now alcari. In a rush as always man!.
RRock i don’t understand your statement mate so try again and i am not a spokesman for hinduism …infact i dont follow it myself.. though i do meditate …but just tired of muslims and christians thinking that they got something good going mate and always negative about everyone else and about each other at times. I did make sense to myself coz i read a lot and talk facts and not someone like you who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Guns and what??? …RRock get real.. i come from a country where we live without the fear of getting bombed by muslims mate…and you sound like one. Although i agree that the Americans suck as well and their history shows that too. If you muslims and christians can give then you be prepared to take it. I dont need to convince nobody about anything mate..just think some of you idiots should get out more. My statments come in light of what i experience and see and hear matey and not just religion bashing without knowlegde.
November 4th, 2007 at 11:25 pm
the fact is that even hinduism is not without it’s flaws but from what is out there on spirituality and god and religions..you can’t come close to the depths of hinduism and it’s concepts.
November 4th, 2007 at 11:45 pm
Gita’s response is wonderfully put for those who don’t know any better…post 18
November 5th, 2007 at 8:29 am
Thanks, much appreciated, it’s really much more readable like this. Crappy dyslexia.
Just a quick note: Ignore Rrock, he’s our new resident whitenoise.
I do agree that Hinduism has a much better basis than Christianity and Islam. I to prefer “Do good deeds for others and be rewarded” over “obey my pitty laws or be punshied”
That said, Hinduism is still another religion, based on unprovable stories, without any basis in reality, which doesn’t put it anywhere above christianity and islam.
November 5th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
fedup man, can i show you God’s plan for your salvation in Christ Jesus.
Seek Jesus, and see that building your life on sand is not a good idea.
fedup, build your life on the rock, on Christ Jesus and see the depths of love he has for you.
November 6th, 2007 at 2:23 am
G’day Alcari and viewers,
I know that there is a lot i don’t like about hinduism as well but those are man made additions over the years and not part of the actual teachings mostly …as with other religions but on the contrary..it is not a religion per se but a collection of teachings from enlightened people who make sense about a lot of things.
For we know that there is a distinct difference between what’s good and what’s bad or we wouldn’t be so scared of doing , saying, trying etc ..so many things. And we know that nothing is more beautiful then love. My point is that i find the concepts of hinduism much more appealing then either islam or Chritianity ..which i find is very god orientated rather then actually teaching something that has some real connection to the soul or real awareness…or incorporates the universe and it’s amazing elements like no other.
Transformation is taught by many religions but getting one with your sacred self is something which is best taught by hinduism and buddism ..which in reality is a branch of hinduism..as buddha himself was from india and most of buddism philosophy is similar to hinduism.
To me the depth of hindu philosophy is the essence of it’s beauty. That idol worshipping thing is made up by people from other religions who are intolerent of others..even though they would follow worse ideas themselves. And hinduism for everyones information is a foreign name…the real name for them is varnasrama and it’s not a religion.
People if you think the dark ages come and went…i think we are fooling ourselves…it’s still prvails ..coz the age of Quarrel and Hypocrisy is present and part of it…it’s along road to destruction and we cannot do anything about it.
The hindu concept for me is as good as believing that “god sent his son to die for us”..and that is ingrained in some minds so firmly that there is nothing past it. Or that “allah” decided to choose mohammed to reveal stuff instead of some other being. If mohammed was such a great man then he wouldn’t have been a violence orientated person himself ..and islam would’nt have been spread through violence as commanded by allah and that is part of his and islamic history im sorry to say.
Now where is the female energy.. we never hear about that in any other religion…except hinduism…which is very interesting to me. Why can’t there be a female god??? We come through females don’t we??? Why are some religions so male orientated…coz it was put together by males to contrl others and didn’t know any better …a major difference compared to hinduism. Science no matter how advance it gets will never be able to give that actaul spark of life to a living cell from scratch. And this to me is the real thruth.
There is a begining ..as with everything in existence …as proven by science as well and hindus believe that that is Brahman or the real thruth or god or the begining if you like. Hindus came up with the big bang theory 5000 yrs ago believe it or not. I totaly agree… and i totally agree that there is female energy if there is male energy or there would be an imbalance as we know it.
What we focus on is our reality i suppose and everything is kind of an illusion ..here today gone tommorrow. A conditioned soul has 4 kinds of defects
1)we must commit mistakes..to err is human.
2)we are illusioned…to accept something that is not..what are you?? “i”is just a bodily identification..who are you really??
3)cheating prpensity…although a person is fool number one, he poses himself as very intelligent..although it is already known that he is in illusion and makes mistakes. He never knows his own position. He is cheating.
4)our senses are imperfect. we are very proud of our eyes. But do you have the eyes to see god?? You will never see if you haven’t the eyes. If immediately the room becomes dark, you cannot see your hands. So what power do you have to see? With all these deficiencies, in conditioned life we cannot give perfect knowlegde to anyone. Nor are we ourselves perfect.
People the age of darkness has come and gone we say…it hasn’t coz the age of Quarrel and hypocrisy is here and its part and parcel of that age of darkness that started thousands of yrs ago and it will get worse as we move into the future…and theirs nothing we can do..absolutely nothing… so lets find the good within us…whatever else has to happen will happen and its not hard to figure that one out.
sorry all.. too busy again ..catch up later. Takecare people.
November 7th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
fedup man, i here you… i want to show the life in Christ Jesus and the love he has for you, fedup man.
fedup man, But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
I want to show you life eternal through Christ Jesus. I humble ask you. O taste and see how wonderful his love he has for you, fedup man.
You will never be fedup man, but anew creature in the true God of this world, my friend, fedup man.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
you know what hindus are full of shit lolzzz.. how can a statue drink milk? u make NO Sense at all..so jus chill ya beans
January 11th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
you guys gotta try harder…read my responses very well first. Is all you christians so blind that you don’t see the silliness of your religion……where the hell is the female energy in your religion or god only pops out sons and he thinks males rule…..”virgin” mary…well in your dreams mateys.
And islam boy where do i start…you wouldn’t know what the concept of god really is…..coz islam started with violence and haven’t changed from day one..if all you people try following some concepts of hinduism then maybe you’ll learn a lil more about life and yourselves.
Begin by learning meditation …ya ..one of the many brilliant sciences of dicovering yourself within and not trying to discover yourself outside in the material world (from hindism) and maybe yoga after that….don’t need to pray to a hindu god. Jesus was not smart enough to talk about things that go much deeper then the father and love for him.Things that enlightened people talk about apart from god.
The reason im so fedup is coz christians and muslims should get a taste of their own medicine and realise that without proper understanding of other religious beliefs they should not think of themselves superior..coz people like me who has participated in all religions ..find muslims the most disturbing people that i have associated with in terms of religion and chritians you dont foolow your teachings very well do you.
Hindus don’t ever interfere with anyone’s religion and never try to convert or look down at other religions and you know why….coz they are superior in their spirituality…..which makes them feel that if a person believes in his god then thats what is his reality and makes him conciuos of the world and love .
That’s why words infedel?? and stuff is not part of hindu religion. There are so many different sections of hindus…just like the muslims and chritians (catholics, presb.. etc ) and there is always tension among your own religion but you don’t see diff sections of hindus fighting amongst each other ..why coz they are superior in their understanding of spirituality and love and god etc etc.
muslims like i said fight amongst each other and become refugees …what a evil to the world spreading like plague and wanting to take over everything that doesn’t belong to them.
Gotta go but i don’t hate anybody or religion but just fedup of muslims and chritians for thier lack of understanding of the real meaning of god = LOVE. Religion Superiority will not get you anywhere and both jesus and muhammad should have known better…well my point exactly.
January 13th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Translation of the above:
Don’t believe your unprovable bullshit, believe my bullshit. It may be equally unprovable, but at least my bullshit isn’t evil. My unprovable bullshit is superior to all, that’s obviously written in my bullshit-manual.
January 13th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
What’s up Alcair? what’s wrong, man?
January 14th, 2008 at 12:58 am
Fedup said, “Hindus don’t ever interfere with anyone’s religion and never try to convert or look down at other religions”
“The reason im so fedup is coz christians”
Fedup Hindu, can I share something with you? I know what your problem is and I would like to help you understand something what you just said…
You are a Fedup hindu man and I what to fill you up with the Love of Jesus, that your spiritual meds can’t fulfill, that’s right, Jesus! Fedup hindu man.
Look no further Fedup hindu man, i will point you in a direction that milk can’t even come close, never thirst again for milk, Fedup hindu man.
Fedup hindu man, you fall short of the Glory of the O’mighty God.
January 14th, 2008 at 1:03 am
hyrocket, you trying to convert people on here is like any one of us trying to explain to you how your religion is based on fairy tales. Just stop it. just. stop. it.
January 14th, 2008 at 2:32 am
Oh Irish, i understnad what you are saying, but the fact is that their is life in Jesus. My friend, everyone here has a chance to undo a belief in a religion which you guys attempt to do.
Therefore it is no different in what i am sharing. I share the christian point of view and you guys share what ever you wish to share.
Irish, have you read what Alcair said? he laughs at me and i respect his convictions of me. why don’t you do the same, laugh at me and not with me, for i am just harmless and deluded, as someone put it. I am fine with that, but you can’t expect me not to share this life that i have in me.
look at what Fedup hindu man said about christians. My friend he does not understand and he looks at the man and not thee MAN! God in the flesh.
Irish, i once believe what you guys believe. But, i have been there and i have been here.
All i can say about that it is sweeter where i am at now.
Irish, just luagh at me as the others and be happy.
January 14th, 2008 at 3:24 am
“for i am just harmless and deluded”
But your also annoying, and wasting precious bits of memory. Look, you can’t really think your gonna convert someone using your childish tactics. Your simply saying the same shit over and over again. You don’t really have anything of substance to add to the discussion. I’ve stopped counting the number of times someone has tried to actually engage you in a discussion and you completely ignore it. Im guessing its because you dont really wanna have to think about the major flaws in your religion, either that or your a complete dolt, or both.
January 14th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t mind so much if there were only an ignore button… other then that, Irish just travel back in time and stole my post before I made it.
May the Invisible Pink Unicorn, Blessed be Her hooves, curse your pre-ninja tactics.
January 14th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
“substance to add to the discussion” Not true, my discussion was with Fedup hindu man on his belief of christians.
Irish, i want to help you and Alcari, but it comes from scripture and it is for christians on praying. I think if you apply this teaching it might help you but that depends on how bad you and Alacri want it.
Look in Luke 11:1-13 Jesus’ teaching on prayer
This teaching has a lot of spiritual blessings but i believe you can get some practicle applications from it.
You want an “ignore button” installed learn what
Luke 11:1-13 teaches and maybe Alcari’s plight will be heard?!
Irish, what see some childish tactics look at post #59
Irish i say the same thing over and over, just as you told Scott about his email and request to have a good discussion on evolution. You said, “and it’s very tiring having to explain it to you all”
Irish, I don’t mind saying the things i say over and over again, i love it! unlike you.
Irish, I light a candle to show the darkness in the room. i don’t light a candle so that i can hide under a table.
Irish, the light of the body is the eye, but we need to take heed Irish that if our eye is evil our body is also full of darkness.
Irish, i ask you to say “NO” to the ignore button.
January 14th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
IGNORE
January 15th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Whenever hyrocket starts doing that, my brain just automatically switches to this.
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/quelsaa/images/static2.gif
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
First of all, that’s a detailed discussion of some lame belief. But, it must be understood that a lot of people make money of this shit. And to the guy who posted this, I am a guy in the US from India. I have seen and heard of this before, but sadly, the proclamations are made by those who want to make money in the name of religion. If it was a true Hindu or a true follower for that matter wouldn’t attribute this kind of crap to being a miracle. And to the guy who said India is polarized into two groups: one scientific and the others who follow supernatural. Well, thanks to the British, who invaded our beliefs and made us feel ashamed of our great culture. This has resulted in some Indian idiots who give out shit about what people in their own land beleive. All that aside, in no hindu scriputures ( the vedas ) it is proclaimed that hinduism is meant to be a religion. It was meant to be a philosophy, a set of beliefs to enlighten one’s mind. This is not to show the existence of god, but to attribute the natural phenomena witnessed by humans to some form, to worship the gift of nature. This evolved further and then we have a pantheon of millions of ‘hindu’ gods, i will stay away from this now since it might take a while to talk about the entire thing. In conclusion, Hinduism ISN’T or WASN’T originally meant to be about supernatural miracles and shit. It was meant to be philosophic and has deep scientific values embedded into the vedas. Therefore, religion is bullshit made up to further some religious head’s needs. And to the guy who made up this website, you should understand that philosophy is different from religion and is beyond the material world crap.
Thanks,
Ram
March 27th, 2008 at 5:48 am
now we all know where this miracle happened !!!!!?????
first in india where most of the people there believe in every thing they hear and see with out even think about it.
this is the problem there, and i have an example for this,
one day they were on the cornish and they saw that the sea have a strange color and they actually tried to drink and then they like it and thought that its a miracle because it taste sweet, then the scientist found that it is came out from the water cycle from the whole city…. but the people still think its miracle…
wwwwoooooowwwwwww, those people are really strange….and wierd.
April 3rd, 2008 at 6:55 am
I didn’t have the time to read through all the above posts - so apologies if I’m repeating someone else’s point. However, I see that nobody has mentioned two simple but important facts regarding this miracle: 1. The offering of milk is presented early in the morning across the Hindu world every single day - and it was only observed on these partcular dates to actually absorb/drink milk and 2. This was an international/global event - from the East through to the West - so it could not be construed of being as a result of any local weather/humidity conditions. For me as a Sikh (but with close ties with the Hindu faith) this very much opitimizes a modern day miracle - in the old days this would have been worthy of great rejoice and possibly a mention or two in the holy scriptures.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:25 am
What an mundane ‘miracle’. A chunk of stone absorbs some milk. I’m more than a little underwhelmed. “in the old days this would have been worthy of great rejoice and possibly a mention or two in the holy scriptures.” Really? I think it just goes to show how desperate many humans are for any shred of ‘evidence’ of the divine.
I don’t know what’s going on with this event. But anyone’s lack of knowledge does not mean the event is divine in origin. It’s the classic “I don’t know therefore God did it” fallacy. What BS, DSS.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:14 am
humm… with all respect… i like to see what is under of the statues…
Move the statues and try to give them milk… no way that they will drink it… or break one of them to prove the miracle…
And other hand they are only statues…what made by someone like you and I..how they can be a God or part of God or what ever it is…they are statues what everybody can make themself…
please try to understand and think what you people are doing…
May God help everybody
peace
April 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 pm
In my family this milk drinking has occured.
I personely gave milk to my Ganesha statue, that is
made out of bronze.
No leaking no surface tension and the milk dissapeared
from the spoon.
I am not a Hindu myself so the relegious aspect is not an issue.
The statue is also a metal and hollow structure, so it cannot absorb fluids, or hide them.
By example if the head of the statue was filled with a kind of plaster like cement i could imagine that it would be able to absorb some fluid.
There were three people that gave milk to this statue, my sister in law.
My girlfriend and me.
Further i do not intend to be converted or to convert anybody else.
It was a nice experiance.
April 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Umm, so try the same test with a very similarly constructed statue of e.g. Gozar the Samoran. You’ll see the same effect.
Gee, could it be that the supposed godliness of the statue has not a damn thing to do with it?
Korgan
Religion is for the gullible and the stupid, and those that would profit from them.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
There are Gozer statues? Awesome, I need one.
I’d prefer one of Vigo though. Vigo the Cruel, Vigo the Torturer, Vigo the Despised, Vigo the Unholy. Especially one “On a mountain of skulls in a castle of pain, [sitting] on a throne of blood.”
April 24th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Yep. Thanks for correct spelling of “Gozer”; my post had that wrong, but I suspect that I didn’t upset Gozer’s appetite for milk with that error…
May 4th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
what about hindu gods in britain? did they drink lager and get some crisps? (cheese&onion, i guess. everyone’s favorite eh)
May 28th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Hey! You Dear Hinduism follower citizens, you are wasting your time and losing your owns….I know India is the land of millions of educated people yet it is the land of the most educated-ignorant millions who believe stones and animals ! I wonder of one who makes his ‘God’ himself !and gives ‘him’ milk to ‘drink’! by the way what is the reason for this ‘God’ cannot totally save you when the disaster come to you from the TRUE GOD ? No reason! but remember that the main reason for those reapeating disasters is this false ‘God’ itself! please wake up and read Quran and you will find all facts which cannot be denied by all healthy brains and minds!
May 28th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Muslim Islam,
You yourself should read about the imminent second coming of the great Gozer the Samoran. You cannot deny his strength. When did your weak little god ever levitate anyone like only Gozer can?
Seriously, just look throughout this site and here for some debunking of Quran “facts”.
And speaking of “healthy brains and minds”, I’ll repeat what I often say:
Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.
May 30th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Let you not discuss about hollywood movies, what I am talking about is the real of our present and future fluke…What do you think about the miracles been and still being shown from Allah(there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is the messenger of Allah written in German garden)and Mosques in Turkey and Indonesia stood erect after the heavy earthquakes? and the miracle of Quran itself, Not a single error or any change was found in its contents for centuries and will never be found because it is from the only true God - Allah. Hey Mr ! please save yourself and all the people around from hell by accepting Islam !
May 30th, 2008 at 3:48 am
and yes !poor Korgan you have been brain washed by the western idiology, ,”religion is a disease…”? according to other beliefs it might be but not Islam ! Islam is the only religion which can give us praised and straight life path….far from allowing same sex marriage, and all other similar immoralities….Islam freed human beings from being slaves of other human beings and indeed from being slaves of our own misguided ideologies.Islam the true democracy the destination of all oppressed individuals !
May 30th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Islam despite it is the misunderstood religion many people of our time take attention much more at the structure and reflections of its followers intead in its pure contents…and then they hold on to criticise the religion which they do not know !we the muslims never cricise a religion by watching only at its followers’ mistakes…we know Hitler well but we strictly distinguish Hitler from Christianity and a Hindu from Hinduism and so on….Mr Korgan forget muslims just look and study Islam and you wiil find the solution of all your and all human beings problems, you wiil be able to enjoy the real human life…….Oh! do you know Dr Zakir Naik ? please try to watch his debating videos with Hindus, Christians and others.You will never need to halt the video if you once started watching it! Interesting and challenging…………….Good Luck Mr Korgan.
June 22nd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
I know something you need to know, in everything there is nothing and nothing is nothing, but the truth will set you free. what do you fear? you know what i talk about password gang. why are you afraid?
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Jeremiah 10
Idolatry Brings Destruction
1 Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O Israel!
2 This is what the Lord says:
“Do not act like the other nations,
who try to read their future in the stars.
Do not be afraid of their predictions,
even though other nations are terrified by them.
3 Their ways are futile and foolish.
They cut down a tree, and a craftsman carves an idol.
4 They decorate it with gold and silver
and then fasten it securely with hammer and nails
so it won’t fall over.
5 Their gods are like
helpless scarecrows in a cucumber field!
They cannot speak,
and they need to be carried because they cannot walk.
Do not be afraid of such gods,
for they can neither harm you nor do you any good.â€
6 Lord, there is no one like you!
For you are great, and your name is full of power.
7 Who would not fear you, O King of nations?
That title belongs to you alone!
Among all the wise people of the earth
and in all the kingdoms of the world,
there is no one like you.
8 People who worship idols are stupid and foolish.
The things they worship are made of wood!
9 They bring beaten sheets of silver from Tarshish
and gold from Uphaz,
and they give these materials to skillful craftsmen
who make their idols.
Then they dress these gods in royal blue and purple robes
made by expert tailors.
10 But the Lord is the only true God.
He is the living God and the everlasting King!
The whole earth trembles at his anger.
The nations cannot stand up to his wrath.
11 Say this to those who worship other gods: “Your so-called gods, who did not make the heavens and earth, will vanish from the earth and from under the heavens.â€[a]
12 But God made the earth by his power,
and he preserves it by his wisdom.
With his own understanding
he stretched out the heavens.
13 When he speaks in the thunder,
the heavens roar with rain.
He causes the clouds to rise over the earth.
He sends the lightning with the rain
and releases the wind from his storehouses.
14 The whole human race is foolish and has no knowledge!
The craftsmen are disgraced by the idols they make,
for their carefully shaped works are a fraud.
These idols have no breath or power.
15 Idols are worthless; they are ridiculous lies!
On the day of reckoning they will all be destroyed.
16 But the God of Israel[b] is no idol!
He is the Creator of everything that exists,
including Israel, his own special possession.
The Lord of Heaven’s Armies is his name!
PS. The Ten command says you shall not have any graven Image of things in heaven or on earth or under the earth.
You can know this God by coming to Jesus. email me on: enuff2ng@yahoo.com
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:24 am
I feel sorry for those who are critisizing and mocking this. This is a miracle of God. Hindus believe in ONE God that is made of many different personalities (demi-Gods). If you are not a Hindu, its ok…because all religions lead to the SAME God. If you are not a hindu, at least respect those who do believe and never doubt another religion. I practice Hinduism and I have seen miracles with my own eyes. All I could say is believe in God and you will see a positive change in your life. May God bless all of you and lead you in the right path.
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 am
By the way, no the statues are not God… they are symbols of God. If you want to believe that a chair is Lord Ganesh, or a Picture, Let it Be. God is what you believe it is in your Heart!
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:29 am
Murali, as usual, thanks for the sentiments. Now, can you please describe in detail even one of these “miracles” that you claim to have experienced? And then explain with proof why it can’t have a simple physical explanation? Good luck; you would be the first person to accomplish that.
Religion is ridiculous.
August 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
There is Only One God that is the God of jesus that is the God of the chiristian that is the God of the muslims….all others are fake are devil things may Goad help us to understand……..some people believe that there are many God but all are fake there is only one God.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Muhammed Ali,
Given that the christian god has different characteristics than the muslim god, how can they be one and the same? Of course, they can’t.
Ah well, you are getting close. The likely number is zero, not one, though :-).
All religion is ridiculous
August 31st, 2008 at 5:23 am
hummmmm
it was really nice and interesting to read the comments from so many ppl. each one have so many different views and its so hard to accept anything else.
well i don’t particularly belive that one of the religions is the right on. well and about these miracles since it has got a better scientific explanation i wud accept it.
however i must say that i do have so sort of feeling in myself that matches the explanation of any religious person. i mean i do believe things like getting punished if we do anything wrong and getting some kind of relief while praying to god.
so i am not agains anykind of religion and belive that we are prayin the same god but in different ways.
(i am not very good at commenting and writing but i just felt like saying something in this disscusion ;)
September 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Hinduism believes in the worship of God in every conceivable way, both as a supreme formless and universal self and also as individual gods and goddesses. Islam believes in one and only God who has 99 names, but is most popularly referred by the name Allah. Islam is based on the sayings of the Almighty Allah that have been conveyed to us through the many Prophets, Muhhammad (P.B.U.H) being the last one. Hinduism is based upon the teachings of God in the form of His incarnations and manifestations, the Vedas, Upanishads and the Bhagavad gita.
Tolerance
Islam is extremely rigid in its approach towards other religions. Hinduism is more a group of religions that share some common beliefs and traditions and is not in favor or against a particular belief or religion. Islam believes in rescuing people from eternal damnation through their conversion to Islam, where as Hinduism believes in letting the Individual choose his path according to his inner convictions and scale of evolution. Hinduism and Islam differ on a number of issues, which are too many to be enumerated here. However one fundamental difference which needs to be mentioned is that Hinduism is the oldest living major religions of the world, while ISLAM IS THE YOUNGEST ! U FOOLS
September 11th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
hello everybody !!!! i really wanna say dis all of u fooolish christians and u muslims ! i really respect ur religion and hav no disregard against dem !!! but the indescency u people r showin out dere is really bad !!! ,, everyone knows how dese christians and muslims just wanna increase people following dere religion to make it on the top it is not any political thingy goin out here ,, so u better concentrate on ur religion and don’t instigate others ,, coz its reallly worse of human nature to criticiaze GOD whether u believe in it or not !!!!!! actuall u people urself are ATHEISTS ,, not sure abt urself ,,, huh ???? are u doin all the right things being in ur own religion !!!!!!!! may ur GOD atleat show u the right way or he is the one tellin u to do it ?????????
October 12th, 2008 at 8:54 am
I am just starting to read about the RSS. Interesting.
With the comments made against Hindus on this thread, I am going to look even closer at them.
I am getting sick of these freaking Western and Muslim Chumps.
America was discovered when the Europeans were looking for a shorter trade route to India. The Mulsims always use to plunder India when they ran out of money.
I think Hindus should stop being so passive and understanding and stick up a little for their beliefs.
The Christian conversions being done in India by paying them is sickening.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Come to my religion. We are a strong people. We can have as many wives as we want and populate the whole world. We pray 3 times a day facing a stone while kissing the floor. We dont have to bathe very often. We believe in war 24/7. Praise Allah!!!
October 12th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Come to our religion. We will pay you monthly to practice. Let our priests molest your kids. Our father was born as a bastard. Hail mary.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:06 am
GOD IS ONE, Only WAY TO FIND OUT Is AFTER YOU DIE!! MIRACLES DO HAPPEN? EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON, i AM HINDU, I LOVE ALL RELIGONS, DIPSET BYRDGANG!!!!!!!!! oh yeah im rick JAMES biittchh
November 16th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Ok alright, some people really love to take the piss, and what is this all over? a statue drinking milk? because of this, Islam and Christianity gets dubbed up silly?
listen you fuckers, if you call da low-lifed statues a miracle for drinking milk, if i was to piss In a bowl n put dat near the silly statue’s face, will it drink dat too? it would wouldnt it! YER TOO DAMN RIGHT IT WOULD BECAUSE ITS EITHER A DUMB BASTARD OR SCIENCE IS THE REPLY TO YOUR PEOPLE’S STUPID SUPRSTITION!!!
whats fucking next, open its mouth to give head for bread? and will this ’strengthen’ the hindu beiliefs? 10 years later another twat will show up n say ‘naa dis geeta statue pulled a stunt’, ‘how did it, what did it do this time?’, ‘it stuck out it’s tongue and licked my dog’s cunt’!!then u get another million twats standing outside dem temples with their dogs to see this miracle with their own eyes, at the same time busting a nut, then they feed their sperm to their so called ’statue’ (no doubt that would get ‘consumed’ too lol)
another thing, when you people say or impliment that ‘islam is ’spread by a sword’, lol you suckers give me JOKEESS!!! just because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, some piss-artists need to come out of no-where and negatively comment on this - can you not see people, this is very OBVIOUSLY and CLEARLY an act of JELOUSY! and that jackass ‘FEDUP MAN’, he thinks he’s fucking superman! AND he has GOT TO BE THE SADDEST PERSON I’VE EVER COME ACCROSS, TALK ABOUT TYPING ESSAYS AND FULL FUKIN NEWSPAPER SIZED ARTICLES ON A FORUM!! lol fukin stupid twat thinks he gona get sum sort of medal for trying to prove a fucking point! and as for his quotes above sayin he has nothing to prove, if this is so, then GET THE FUCK OF THE FORUM YOU STUPID LOW-LIFED PREDICTABLE ARSEHOLEE! i had sumfing to prove, and that was if one can point fingers and critizise over and over again, then it wouldn’t cost a ‘MIRACLE’ for someoe else to do the same!!
November 20th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Reflex Reflex Reflex matey …im just stating the facts , ok im not used to writing in forums..don’t have the time really …ma bad! …but i just got some things to say to you.
1)you muslims are the one’s who instigate all the shit in the world ..let alone this forum …so i am merely giving you a taste of your own medicine. You put others down just to feel good about yourselves and i have seen this countless times even on videos promoting islam.
2)you muslims will never change and that’s why yous fight amongst yourselves when you don’t have anyone else to pick on and that is depicted in your history..right from the time of it’s beginning…/well even ongoing ya.
3) you wouldn’t believe anything anyone from another religion says coz your nature is such..learnt ofcourse. while hindus respect all teachings that promote good and they actually promote such things.
Last one i heard at a gathering i went to with me hindu friend was a hindu priest saying ..”the bible says..ask and you shall recieve..” linking it to hindu teachings in a gentle way.
4) you people are very narrow minded and violent and that’s what the world is dicovering now but i beleive the hindus have known this for hundreds of years. History say’s so , not me.
5) did i say in 59 that i know how to pray the muslim prayer…which i learnt when i was very young…out of curiosity and hunger to learn other religions (was with me muslim mates ofcourse)..i know a lot about chritianity and hinduism and buddism and a few other philosophies ya but ofcourse not an expert in any.
i could carry on but i just had a break and lost interest hhmmm..in conclusion anyway..i am merely giving muslims a taste of their own mix of hatred and ignorance towards others.
secondly, i have nothing to prove to any of yous coz i have seeked and i have gained a lot more knowledge then any one single muslim would bother to do so ..
thirdly, i would recommend all muslims to take up meditation for starters (a great contribution of hinduism..WHICH IS NOT A RELIGION) it would make yous better human beings and definitly bring inner peace.. no really i mean it!
Finally, i think those religions that do not incorporate the female energy in their beliefs are not worth looking at..personal comment ofcourse. Male oriented beliefs (father in heaven, islamic male oriented beliefs) are very suspect NO! wonder if god really make man in his own image.
hhmm maybe my last post wasn’t up to scratch but buddy that was my first one coz i don’t have time for all this…somehow i came to experience the phenomenon ( read my post “NOT 46″ but one’s after) and there is no denying that it was a miracle if that’s what people are calling it..you my friend will never get it.
i suggest everyone ignore my other posts coz i have been very critical of muslims and chritians (was for good reasons at the time) but i am awake now and i do not wish to condone such behaviour.
Well here’s another bloody long essay from me as Reflex put it earlier…but i just have so much to say….really i can carry on the whole day if this was some live dicussion..don’t have the time though. Reflex mate stop swearing ..it sounds aweful :)..takecare and all the best people.
EGO WORLD DOESN’T HAVE SPIRIT
AS YOU THINK SO SHALL YOU BE
UNIFY YOUR BODY, MIND, SOUL, SPIRIT AND ENVIRONMENT.
LOVE
AS YOU THINK SO SHALL YOU BE
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 am
hey ,,, fedupman ,, really good explanation …
but i feel these christians and muslims will ,, not understand these things!!!! leve them dats what i feel ….
they by insulting others are showing what their religion has taught dem !!!! i as a hindu respect all religions and I AM PROUD TO BE A HINDU !!! as for if i wud hav been a christian i wud have been promoting it lyk hell and if a muslim then wud be doin lyk reflex did !!!! i feel so happy ,,!!!! also if all of u read the above posts , muslims and christians to eplain their part hav used all the awful words on this earth whereas other hav just explained the point.
HTERE LIES THE DIFFERENCE
U DUMP PEOPLE
MAY GOD GIVE U BRAINS!!!!!
January 6th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I hve a question for every who says to believe in Jew, Islam or Christianity. Who say the religion of Hinduism is fake.
First Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world way before Jesus. Second, Did god just Leave the human race alone for a few thousands of years and then suddenly bring Jesus to the world and tell him to spread the word of god? NO, he was with us in the beginning even if Hinduism is older that the Jew religion doesn’t mean god just ignored Hindus and focused on Jews, Muslims or Christians. I personally believe in all religions, but seriously other people have to take into fact that miracles can happen and every religion leads to one supreme being which is god, just because Hinduism has over 360 or so gods doesn’t mean they are all fake, in fact Hindus say they are all manifestations of one supreme being the creator of this universe GOD. And just because there’s a scientific reason behind everything doesn’t mean its a fake, because the statues had stopped drinking milk after a day i think. when people tried to offer the milk it stayed in the spoon. explain that? what did the surface tension or the pull of gravity stop huh?
January 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Sub, you are wrong. Hinduism evolved from Dravidianism. Dravidianism is a philosophy and Hinduism is a religion. And as for your little question, like any vessel it eventually becomes full and over the next day the milk evaporates to allow more liquid to be taken in. I would venture that the capillaries which absorb the milk do not have infinite storage.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Wow, so an older religion means its true then - so who is the god for me then? Thor? Zeus? Apollo?? All religions (except Bahai) tell you that only theirs is the true one - therefore you cannot be a true believer, lol.
The most logical conculsion to draw is that THEY ARE ALL WRONG! there is no such thing as god, just a bunch of culture-specific superstitions for weak minded sheep.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
“Hinduism evolved from Dravidianism. Dravidianism is a philosophy and Hinduism is a religion”
Thanks for filling me in on this Marc.
and i didn’t say the older religion are true I’m just saying that for the people who think that Jew, Islam and Christianity are true religion is, that god has been with us since the beginning not since when Jew or Islam or Christianity was created.
January 7th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Sub, you do realise that your view on god is viewed at heretical by all of the major religions, including your own? They all say that each other religion is false, NOT that they are all the same god.
So how does that work when the current crop of religions are all preceeded by much older religions that didnt follow the same concept of god? were all those good people before all going to go to hell? why didnt god reveal himself earlier than he did? what about the tribes living in the amazon who still havent heard of the current in-vogue gods? are they going to burn in hell for something that wasnt their doing too?
All religions are nothing but made-up ways of trying to explain our lives. We dont need to make things up anymore, the time is now to move on from superstition and proud ignorance.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:59 am
the God is that which feeds its devotees not drink from them.
just a question to our hindu brothers.
January 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Sab Kah Malik Ek:
Please see SHIRDI Sai Baba. He is the answer to all ur questions.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:45 am
I have studied all religions very closely.
Hinduism, or Hindu Philosophy is far far above others. Way better than anything else in any religion. From this ancient religion came so many religions. It is hinduism that gave meditation, yoga and concepts like reaching for God or self-enlightenment from within. Karma theory is another thing.
It is a very wide and deep philosophy, very difficult to understand. People who just believe in hell and heaven can’t understand it.
For a Hindu is is hard to believe how and why a man born 2000 years ago would save us from our sins today. Adn hwy only a son of God, why not daughter.
Islam is very rigid too, very strict and scary.
Very happy with hinduism
February 12th, 2009 at 5:55 am
I see a program on Zee TV (Indian TV) everyday. It is called “Pyasa hiran jaise…” (means like a thirsty doe…)
There are men and women (church ministers)who create such a magic like show everyday. There are sick people, jobless and others with woeful stories. These church people… how claim to be healers, make the poor people fall on the ground by touching them. Saying that Jesus has touched you so you will heal now. The poor innocent people go rolling down the ground with a thud and even jump up and down like smitten. Very scary stuff!! Still they believe in magic in thi smodern age - like Benny Hinn ministry.
It could either be hypnotism or else these poor people have been bought by paying them money for acting out. But they say Jesus comes there everyday and touches them. Strange!!
A Hindu watching this program can’t believe it. I don’t say there is or there is no Jesus. Who knows. But what is the proof. Just like there is no proof that miracles can happen in hinduism.
March 17th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Hi all, i am a proud Hindu from South Africa.Hinduism is more a way of life then it is a religion.The idols are there to focus ones attention onto God, and not to be worshipped, just like a muslim prays towards the Kubbha( biggest idol in the world), or like a cross infront of a church. Jesus says “who are we to throw stones, Allah says “we are all made in his image” my mocking us hindus, you are mocking YOUR creator.Ones biggest demon is ones ignorance.Learn to understand rather then to judge.Hindus never mock people as me are not there to judge people, there comes a time were we all have to answer to OUR creator, Love all Serve All, Shanthi shanthi shanthi
March 17th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Prenvin, how do you say idiot in Hindu? it’s curry you idiot. “Ones biggest demon is ones ignorance. Learn to understand rather then to judge.” you idiot- i’m trying to say this in Hindu
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Dear ” it is say”
I pity you for your lack of understanding, clearly its a LACK of education and no common knowlegde
I suggest you seek help
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November 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Hey u guys, there is no ”phenomenon” or ”miracle” in the videos. Couldnt anyone really the milk dripping down? is the whole of india so blind that they cannot see the milk dripping down from the statues??????? WTF????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Those who are devotees of other gods and who worship them with faith actually worship only Me - Krishna (BG Gita). This message is for everybody.. don’t be narrow minded.. If you are, then nobody can save you.. try to take positive things from all religions and learn to be a better human being rather than behaving like a small child..thank you..
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
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What people get from believing in a fairy tale is negative, not positive, so don’t encourage the stupid lemmings. Anyway, all the sky fairy believers claim that their own particular god is the big kahuna. Show the evidence (no one ever has, so far) or fuck off and be silent.
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January 9th, 2010 at 5:10 am
To muslim fanatics who are on the wrong path of G-d
First and foremost, Brahman is G-d in Hinduism not Allah.
Your ancestors were once pure Hindu or follower of Sanatana Dharma but were persecuted by war-mongering fanatic infidels from present day Iran, Persia and Iraq who invaded this pure land and killed millions in the name of your allah for more than 700 years. So your allah is a demon to me.
Regarding statues drinking milk, It can be interpreted in many ways and people are FREE in their mind and conscience.
Regarding the vulnerability of statues, I’d like to apprise you that I’d like to see one day the Kabba been put down once and for all for it is a statue isn’t it?
Regarding The mythological, Ganesha or Hanuman…your ancestors were fond of such moral stories in the past. During these times…there were no paper. no schools, and the notion of the divine was perpetuated through plays and teaching of moral stories all throughout the land of the Bharata as such. These characters became immortal in human psyche uptill now but there is more to sanatana dharma. If you want to know I invite you to reconnect with the knowledge of your Hindu ancestry for they are part of your history. It would do you a lot of good to renew and be at peace with your heritage.
You should know also that there are many avatars that G-d sent on this earth. G-d sent Rama, Krishna to remove evil from earth or a particular context. You should read the Bhagavad Gita and have an introduction of the greatness of G-d. You should know that you follow only a single path to G-d in Islam with is Bakti yoga in a dogmatic manner, but G-d prescribed the path of Self-realization to be higher. Go find out what your ancestors knew about the way to become as near to G-d as possible while being alive. You would be amazed and reconsider the only path you were made to be contented with right now that is the path of devotion which at times become inhumanely violent owing to its dogmatism and impossibility to go into self-realization path. Go learn about the nature of passion which the path of devotion through senses only allow you to fathom. Even five prayers a day would lead to same status quo for it is incomplete and has no other way to go than to turn to violence when it is challenged. Islam is incomplete because it cannot offer self-realization. No wonder Muhammad was such a brute and a barbarian for his understanding of G-d was partially complete.
Regarding your ancestors, they knew that G-d does not speak through one prophet only and one way only. They knew that G-d is Brahman (One) and path leading to G-d many. Your allah is but an imperialistic idea of an arabic conquering nation of the notion of G-d. Just like Rome was made capital of the world by Julius caesar the barbarian, Muhammad establishes Mecca as the center of the world for his new religion but G-d does not belong to Mecca, G-d does not reside in the Kabaa, G-d is not the propriety of the new sect of Muhammad. G-d is everywhere. G-d is within everything as well as above everything.
In the veda and Bhagavad Gita, G-d is depicted as formless,genderless and without name as well as the manifest and unmanifest one, which means that G-d though one manifest itself into different forms and is also unaffected by it. So concentrating on allah is partially right, for G-d is not only one as a person or some old man in the sky. God is one and many altogether and is the manifest and unmanifest one and yet is also above everything.
So you see your concept on G-d is only partial and this is why the man made religion your have adopted by conversion, by birth, by coercion in history is so defective in many ways.
So remember that statues although not a must is a tradition that helps many people to approach the concept of G-d as one and at the same time many, the manifest and unmanifest as stated above. Statues were used also to depict different aspects of G-d for G-d has unlimited aspect and is yet one.
So all this to tell you that the foundation of islam is partial to one aspect of G-d only whereas G-d is limitless and is not a resident of Mecca, a prophet’s hostage, an arabic name, an arabic cultural way of life etc. So you see how your anscestors though uneducated were wise and knew the grandeur of G-d. Unfortunately for you you fell prey to a predatory religion which limits G-d to itself. Otherwise somewhere we share something in common down the ages…our common ancestry and heritage.
January 10th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
What I want to know is, why the hell were people trying to give milk to statues in the first place? How did they even discover that these statues were “drinking” milk?
January 31st, 2010 at 8:32 am
To Todd (Hope this would help!)
It is customary among ‘Hindus” to offer prasad(meaning : offering or mercy or acceptable clean food, drink etc)to G-d before consumption. The idea is to remind oneself that G-d is the provider of everything. Usually Food is placed on an altar of a revealed form of G-d (avatar)and prayers and meditation are made. Incense and lamps are lighted to uplift the atmosphere in temples or Homes during the offering session so as to foster concentration on a revealed form of G-d so as to avoid being lost in thoughts on the unfathomable, unknown, formless knowledge of G-d.
People of abrahamic faith sometimes misinterprete or are even ignorant of Dharmic faiths and practices and come to the wrong conclusion that “milk is being poured or being given to statues”. But Hindus know that G-d is one, formless, infinite,manifest and unmanifest, revealed through Avatars yet unaffected by action, within and above everything etc.The Vedas tell us this about God - “OM Poornamadah Poornamidam Poornaad Poornamudachyate; Poornasya Poornamaadaaya Poornamevaavashisyate”. Translated in English, this verse means “What is Whole - This is Whole - What has come out of the Whole is also Whole; When the Whole is taken out of the Whole, the Whole still remains Whole”.Which means G-d being infinite manifest itself in infinite ways or through avatars. Statues are revealed symbols of G-d’s Avatars whereby offering is made which enables the mind to consciously focus on a revealed aspect of G-d.
In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna teaches us that G-d accepts any clean offerings (Prasad) or offering made consciously to G-d i.e Whosoever offers to Me with love a leaf, a flower, a fruit or even water, I appear in person before that devotee of sinless mind and delightfully partake of that article offered by him with love. Arjuna, whatever you do, whatever you eat, whatever you offer as oblation to the sacred fire, whatever you bestow as a gift, whatever you do by way of penance, offer it all to Me.” Again, “To those devotees who worship Me, thinking of none else, who devote their mind to Me and are ever perseverent in My service and in My contemplation, I confer that permanent heavenly abode from which there is no return to life.”Any clean food offered to G-d is not affected by Karma and helps us to progress spiritually.
When going to temples it is customary to offer milk or water to G-d before sharing it with families and friends and devotees at the temples for such offerings have been made in conscience of G-d.So any food offered to G-d (in this case milk) is likely not going to give you bad Karma for yourself and for others.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
nor is any food offered to a god going to do a f-ing thing for you. Never has, never will. Read post 1. Again. Rinse. Repeat. Your G-d is a f-ing fairy tale.
February 1st, 2010 at 8:10 am
To Tor
“nor is any food offered to a god going to do a f-ing thing for you”…How do you know that if you haven’t genuinely experience it? For those who are consciously aware they feel it and they know that they are in communion with the divine when they make offerings in conscience of G-d.If you are not consciously aware yet you shouldn’t worry, it’s not your time yet…all in good time… But If you are consciously able to link the most mundane things in life to G-dliness then it’s the beginning of your enlightenment. You would most likely be more aware of your senses and action that you do. But it’s not for everybody. If you regard this as worthless then it is best not to worry or care about it at all. You have the choice.You are not being forced to do anything you are not ready to experience yet. It’s ok.
G-d is not anybody’s property. The reference to “your” “G-d” is irrational to say the least.
If You want to eat just because your stomach aches then go ahead be carefree, G-d allows you to be free but you have no right to come telling me that your lack of understanding is the truth and that I should become like you. It is mentioned in the Bhagavad Gita and Vedas that G-d provides for all beings. It doesn’t matter if you are aware of G-d or not( I won’t use the term believer or non-believer/ atheist as know-it-all from abrahamic faiths like to vociferate). G-d simply provides. The act of offering is deeply symbolic and has meaning for some who are consciously aware.If you can’t just don’t do it and try to find meaning with “Cheetos” or “soda” instead..and yes remember to thank your “stinking” boss for employing you to buy the stuff you eat if you feel G-d is fairy tale.
And yes what I said had nothing to do with the capillary effect that scientist described.I leave that to them and each is free to judge the justness or not of the explanations. I was just trying to explain to someone the CULTURAL context and TRADITION of hinduism and the reasons we do things we do. It’s not like i’m asking you to believe in the splitting of the sea or the sea turning into blood or walking on water or dead man coming back to life as his previous personality or flying on a donkey to the moon or copulating with virgins in heaven.
February 1st, 2010 at 3:48 pm
the f-cking - and - keys -n my keyb-ard d-n’t w-rk
m-st be divine interventi-n. Nah, that w–ld be me.
f-cking PC.
February 1st, 2010 at 5:25 pm
there. fuxed that for u.
Have a nice fscking day.
Gud
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February 14th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
People have such a hard time believing in this and some Hindus are ashamed to be Hindus, how sad when they can disregard things like this and believe in Moses who parted the red sea, And made it fully red and they can believe that Jesus turned water into wine and all those miracles but as soon as its anything to be Hinduism or any religion from the east its purely scientifically caused apparently “they are all stupid and not being rational” If your a Hindu i think its great you can believe that its a miracle its a gift not a curse.
February 14th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Uhh, Jamesie dear, believing that some divine or miraculous cause is the cause of some phenomenon that has good candidate conventional explanations is simply FUCKING STUPID.
Got it yet? It’s not great at all; it’s just STUPID. REALLY FUCKING STUPID.
And it’s “it’s” little Jamesie, not “its” in this case. Maybe you’ll learn that in the next grade.
April 25th, 2010 at 10:16 am
haha its quite hilarious to watch all u retards from various religons cast aspersions on Hinduism….and hold u and ur respective religion as uprighteous in the same sentence…hahaa and u f-ckers cant even spell statue.( it realllyyyyyy kills an argument when you people prove how lacking ur education is). no wonder u swallow shit wholesale from ur dogmatic and prophetic leaders.
if christianity judaism and islam were so great- then they wud not hav hav a history of bloodshed for forecefully converting people to hold their beliefs in high esteem. how about you ignorant uneducated ones keep your small minded opinions to yourselves, and leave intelligent discussions for those blessed with a brain and the gift of wisdom.
April 28th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Take another look Tiffany. This is an Athiest site.
April 29th, 2010 at 8:52 am
christianity is definately evil tho.
April 29th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Here it is plainly spoken:
http://evilbible.com
It’s 2010. Fuck your stupid jesus stories.
July 9th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Tom Cruise have dyslexia and yet he is still a very successful actor.,:`