Fanatic #1:”We should read the bible literally”
Fanatic #2:”No that’s to barbaric, read it metophorically”
Fanatic #3:”No, no, no, you’re both wrong, we need to edit this ourselves and call it New Revised Standard Version.”

Science and bible are separate, any reasonable person can see that this is how it should remain. Researching the bible only has scientific value for archaeologists, historians, and social science. Then it actually makes for good reading!

I browse this site everyday and am so disheartened to hear this movement is getting stronger. Whatever happened to the whole burning church’s idea? I mean, come on…..

They are fighting a WAR with us, you’ve all seen it in the stupid Jesus Camp movies and crap. It’s a growing ARMY of people willing to die for their God, so let’s help them realize their dreams?

America is in dire need of another Civil War.

no, but YEcreationism == ID.

Perhaps you are unaware of some facts about them as an unbiased resource. If I may direct you to some reading on them…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikisource/en/7/71/Wedge_Document.pdf

From their own strategy they state implicitly that they want to destroy the public image of evolution for the purpose of suplanting it with Christian Creation. To do this they’ve painted a thin veneer of science over the bible and changed the the names from Creationism to ID and Genisis to “Of Panda’s and People”.

What you have there is a good old fasioned Christian lobby with a fundamentalist agenda directly at odds with my America. Don’t let them fool you. The further along ID gets in its acceptance the more bible they’ll slip in. Their “science” is flawed and they’ve never been published in a peer reviewed journal that didn’t imediately retract the article for having sidestepped their criterion (the article I mention was nothing more than a document constructed of farmed quotes). Give them an inch and they’ll take your brain.

The thing that is laughable here is your ignorance towards the theories that the ID movement are actually putting forward. Cowardly caricaturing really doesn’t help anybody… although I suppose it makes you sound 1337 on a predominantly anti-ID blog.

ID != young-earth creationism.

http://www.discovery.org/csc/topQuestions.php#questionsAboutIntelligentDesign

This works for one definition of intelligent, and not the one they presumably intend. Let’s not give IDers any amunition they need - as long as they cling to their “world started in 4000bc” theory we can just laugh at their ignorance while cringing at their numbers.

Dave

If so, that makes him all the more valuable for the US. (I say “for the US” because, of course, outside the US, so-called “intelligent design” isn’t an issue, even amongst Christians. There are a lot of Americans, and a lot of Christians in America, and Sturgeon’s Revelation applies.)

Sill It’s a great thing when someone in a position of power honestly says that people should use their head for a change.