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	<description>Have faith in yourself</description>
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		<title>By: Mihangel Caiaphas</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/02/muslim-crucifies-christian-slave/#comment-96359</link>
		<dc:creator>Mihangel Caiaphas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh we didn't care,we made it very clea. Mihangel Caiaphas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh we didn&#8217;t care,we made it very clea. Mihangel Caiaphas.</p>
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		<title>By: Hale Mauricio</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/02/muslim-crucifies-christian-slave/#comment-89271</link>
		<dc:creator>Hale Mauricio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that's why it will never wor. Hale Mauricio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s why it will never wor. Hale Mauricio.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/02/muslim-crucifies-christian-slave/#comment-52850</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the slave trade has existed among Arabs as recent as 15 years ago, that I am aware of, as reports on Africans being kidnapped and smuggled away from their families and homes to serve Arab masters were making their way out of Africa to the Western World, and there were organizations raising money to buy back these slaves and bring them home. I do not know if Arabs still practice this immoral indignity against other human beings to date, but will try to find previous reports that were scandalous at the time, in an effort to find out more. Did this particular crucifixion story occur? Who knows for sure, but the following is true: There are those in Islam who murder their sister or their daughter if she was raped because SHE brought shame to their family; there are those who decapitate others because they are of a different tribe or are sunni and not shia (and vis-a-versa); there are those who kidnap and kill and commit acts of terror for political and religious reasons; there are those who stone to death people for committing adultery, for if they did not stone them to death then Allah would send them to hell (but since they are stoned to death Allah will grant them peace). These are extremist acts, but they are most definitely acted with the approval of many clerics and approved of as being within Islamic law and cultural norms. This does not mean that all Muslims do these terrible things nor do they condone them. However, the numbers of those who do is so great that these things must be looked at, judged, and corrected, as the King (a direct descendant of Muhammed) and Queen of Jordan are attempting to do in their own country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the slave trade has existed among Arabs as recent as 15 years ago, that I am aware of, as reports on Africans being kidnapped and smuggled away from their families and homes to serve Arab masters were making their way out of Africa to the Western World, and there were organizations raising money to buy back these slaves and bring them home. I do not know if Arabs still practice this immoral indignity against other human beings to date, but will try to find previous reports that were scandalous at the time, in an effort to find out more. Did this particular crucifixion story occur? Who knows for sure, but the following is true: There are those in Islam who murder their sister or their daughter if she was raped because SHE brought shame to their family; there are those who decapitate others because they are of a different tribe or are sunni and not shia (and vis-a-versa); there are those who kidnap and kill and commit acts of terror for political and religious reasons; there are those who stone to death people for committing adultery, for if they did not stone them to death then Allah would send them to hell (but since they are stoned to death Allah will grant them peace). These are extremist acts, but they are most definitely acted with the approval of many clerics and approved of as being within Islamic law and cultural norms. This does not mean that all Muslims do these terrible things nor do they condone them. However, the numbers of those who do is so great that these things must be looked at, judged, and corrected, as the King (a direct descendant of Muhammed) and Queen of Jordan are attempting to do in their own country.</p>
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		<title>By: Suksuk</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/02/muslim-crucifies-christian-slave/#comment-18569</link>
		<dc:creator>Suksuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckly, I visited this region of the world.
Yes the life there seems very difficult.  But I am quite certain from what I saw there that this story is made up.
Maybe to get support some people make up stories.
There may be other reasons.
But things don't happen the way this story is made up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckly, I visited this region of the world.<br />
Yes the life there seems very difficult.  But I am quite certain from what I saw there that this story is made up.<br />
Maybe to get support some people make up stories.<br />
There may be other reasons.<br />
But things don&#8217;t happen the way this story is made up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/02/muslim-crucifies-christian-slave/#comment-12342</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you certainly got a lot of reaction out of this one.

I don't think it has a thing to do with the man's religion.  He was clearly insane.

It's wrong to try to pin this to Islam.

I have met many Muslims whom I've found to be the most enlightened, fair and tolerant religious people I've ever known.

I think you will find that the savage tendencies that the media concentrates our attention on are more cultural than religious patterns.  

But in the one you just described, I don't think that can be ascribed to anything but that one man's cruel intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you certainly got a lot of reaction out of this one.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it has a thing to do with the man&#8217;s religion.  He was clearly insane.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s wrong to try to pin this to Islam.</p>
<p>I have met many Muslims whom I&#8217;ve found to be the most enlightened, fair and tolerant religious people I&#8217;ve ever known.</p>
<p>I think you will find that the savage tendencies that the media concentrates our attention on are more cultural than religious patterns.  </p>
<p>But in the one you just described, I don&#8217;t think that can be ascribed to anything but that one man&#8217;s cruel intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/02/muslim-crucifies-christian-slave/#comment-11358</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, that picture is, without question, fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, that picture is, without question, fake.</p>
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		<title>By: Skyclad</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/02/muslim-crucifies-christian-slave/#comment-11262</link>
		<dc:creator>Skyclad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohamed:

I'd like to thank you for the comments above on the nature of the act in the title article. I believe in people, though all too often in the news, all we see are the more violent aspects of the Islamic faith in action. By expressing solidarity with the victim (if indeed the story is even true), you have helped restore a little of my belief that people of all faiths can be sincerely good people. One thing I had begun to believe is that Islam was all aggressors with no balancing factors (hawks and doves in american terminology), and I am glad that the human tragedy was recognised without regard to the faith of the victim.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohamed:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to thank you for the comments above on the nature of the act in the title article. I believe in people, though all too often in the news, all we see are the more violent aspects of the Islamic faith in action. By expressing solidarity with the victim (if indeed the story is even true), you have helped restore a little of my belief that people of all faiths can be sincerely good people. One thing I had begun to believe is that Islam was all aggressors with no balancing factors (hawks and doves in american terminology), and I am glad that the human tragedy was recognised without regard to the faith of the victim.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

I'm not saying that I have yo apply my rules, you misunderstand the point I'm trying to say,

Knowing that there is god, even with absence of laws, you know there is god if your mind speaks to you to do something stupid, but the atheist has nothing to consider.

Imagine with me, what would happen if there is no law in USA?

People will kill each other, and steal each othe, for example Katrina, you have seen how people acted with out law.

In Egypt we live without law, but we know if we run away from the government, we are not going to run away from god, even though I'm not saying that Egypt is perfect.

Without people believing in God, people will do bad things, not afraid from conseqences. Atheiset will think that they can kill and they go to jail or got excuted and that's it.

But it's not that way, there is a god and he sees every thing, and any unjust done, he will take care of it.

You don't want Islam rules, because they will make your society is better, without alcaholic and without gambling, which both of them destroy any society, Prostituition, do you think that most of women who works in this field wants to do that, some of them has no money and some of forced to do it, and if the society helped them, they might be better people in society.

Driving, women drive in Egypt, including my sister, woman always has her role in Islam, what happen now is culture thing, is not from Islam in any thing. Please read about womens in Islam on our prophet's day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that I have yo apply my rules, you misunderstand the point I&#8217;m trying to say,</p>
<p>Knowing that there is god, even with absence of laws, you know there is god if your mind speaks to you to do something stupid, but the atheist has nothing to consider.</p>
<p>Imagine with me, what would happen if there is no law in USA?</p>
<p>People will kill each other, and steal each othe, for example Katrina, you have seen how people acted with out law.</p>
<p>In Egypt we live without law, but we know if we run away from the government, we are not going to run away from god, even though I&#8217;m not saying that Egypt is perfect.</p>
<p>Without people believing in God, people will do bad things, not afraid from conseqences. Atheiset will think that they can kill and they go to jail or got excuted and that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not that way, there is a god and he sees every thing, and any unjust done, he will take care of it.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want Islam rules, because they will make your society is better, without alcaholic and without gambling, which both of them destroy any society, Prostituition, do you think that most of women who works in this field wants to do that, some of them has no money and some of forced to do it, and if the society helped them, they might be better people in society.</p>
<p>Driving, women drive in Egypt, including my sister, woman always has her role in Islam, what happen now is culture thing, is not from Islam in any thing. Please read about womens in Islam on our prophet&#8217;s day.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--- [Mohamed]
Yeah I understand that you didnâ€™t dodge the question, again your answer makes me thank god that Iâ€™m muslim, itâ€™s really disgusting, you guys will destroy this earth if you got the chance to, if there is no laws, you will see how are you going to act. like barbric, having sex with your mother, you childern or sibilings, what is going to stop you?

No vlues, no rules, you see your self coming from Apes, so you are going to act like them, like animals.
---

You know, this is another issue I have with theists.  They have this mistaken idea that just because we dont worship some fairy tale, we have no morality and want to live in a chaotic anarchic society.  I guess it is to be expected when they think with a book or are spoon fed wisdom from a priest/preacher/cleric whatever you want to insert there.

To be clear:  Your assumptions are wrong. I just dont want MY rules to necessarily defined by YOUR book.  I want my rules to be defined by what is applicable to a secular body because that is the ONLY wai to be fair to everyone of every religion and non-religions.  An example, if you muslims ruled America I could easily some stupid laws being passed like stores being prohibited from selling pork products or women not being allowed to get driver's licences.  I could come up with a ton of these.  I have similar issues with christians in charge.  Not being able to buy booze in southern states on sunday anyone?  How about gambling being illegal?  How about prostitution?  Hell if a woman wants to perform a service and get paid for it, it should be between her and her clients not some jackass christian and their little book.

Well that did turn into a completely off topic mess.  Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212; [Mohamed]<br />
Yeah I understand that you didnâ€™t dodge the question, again your answer makes me thank god that Iâ€™m muslim, itâ€™s really disgusting, you guys will destroy this earth if you got the chance to, if there is no laws, you will see how are you going to act. like barbric, having sex with your mother, you childern or sibilings, what is going to stop you?</p>
<p>No vlues, no rules, you see your self coming from Apes, so you are going to act like them, like animals.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>You know, this is another issue I have with theists.  They have this mistaken idea that just because we dont worship some fairy tale, we have no morality and want to live in a chaotic anarchic society.  I guess it is to be expected when they think with a book or are spoon fed wisdom from a priest/preacher/cleric whatever you want to insert there.</p>
<p>To be clear:  Your assumptions are wrong. I just dont want MY rules to necessarily defined by YOUR book.  I want my rules to be defined by what is applicable to a secular body because that is the ONLY wai to be fair to everyone of every religion and non-religions.  An example, if you muslims ruled America I could easily some stupid laws being passed like stores being prohibited from selling pork products or women not being allowed to get driver&#8217;s licences.  I could come up with a ton of these.  I have similar issues with christians in charge.  Not being able to buy booze in southern states on sunday anyone?  How about gambling being illegal?  How about prostitution?  Hell if a woman wants to perform a service and get paid for it, it should be between her and her clients not some jackass christian and their little book.</p>
<p>Well that did turn into a completely off topic mess.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Father Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's try to get back to the point:
I surf the internet daily, from day 1 (OK, OK, day 2, I confess: I don't know hot to configure a modem). WorldNetDaily.com claims it was established in 1997, yet I have not once heard of them. Might mean nothing, but I'm already cautios. The article is not signed. The article contains one link, to a login site I don't know. No siree, that's not how you publish news.
The picture - it's fishy at best. And the wounds can be from nails as much as from any other reason.
I'd try to stay to the point, but I can't: someone please explain Mohamed (the above poster) what an internet troll is, and why should they be avoided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try to get back to the point:<br />
I surf the internet daily, from day 1 (OK, OK, day 2, I confess: I don&#8217;t know hot to configure a modem). WorldNetDaily.com claims it was established in 1997, yet I have not once heard of them. Might mean nothing, but I&#8217;m already cautios. The article is not signed. The article contains one link, to a login site I don&#8217;t know. No siree, that&#8217;s not how you publish news.<br />
The picture - it&#8217;s fishy at best. And the wounds can be from nails as much as from any other reason.<br />
I&#8217;d try to stay to the point, but I can&#8217;t: someone please explain Mohamed (the above poster) what an internet troll is, and why should they be avoided.</p>
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