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	<title>Comments on: Christians Shocked At Nature&#8217;s &#8220;Unnatural&#8221; Behavior</title>
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		<title>By: sidfaiwu</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-102786</link>
		<dc:creator>sidfaiwu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back Azmodel,

Actually, a scientific 'law' is an antiquated term in science.  The term 'law' implied a universal truth that was unknowable.  The classic example is Newton's 'Law' of Gravity which stated that all objects obey an inverse-square law of attraction.  But it turned out to not be a universal truth and was updated with the &lt;em&gt;Theory&lt;/em&gt; of relativity.  This has happened enough times for scientists to recognize that they needed to abandon the use of the term 'law' and stick strictly to theories.

You also neatly ignored the point about the comparable validity of evolution to other theories which I listed and that you, like everyone else, likely accept as valid.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The say that homosexuality is natural or a norm would be the equilivalient [sic] of saying that having six toes is natural among 6 billion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The norm?  I don't think &lt;em&gt;anyone&lt;/em&gt; claims that it is the norm.  Everyone recognizes homosexuals as a minority group.  It is natural in the sense that it occurs in nature, as does six toed-ness.  The question is whether we should make reasonable accommodations for these minorities.  A minority of the population is born with physical disabilities and we have made accommodations for their differences.  We should extend such courtesy to homosexuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back Azmodel,</p>
<p>Actually, a scientific &#8216;law&#8217; is an antiquated term in science.  The term &#8216;law&#8217; implied a universal truth that was unknowable.  The classic example is Newton&#8217;s &#8216;Law&#8217; of Gravity which stated that all objects obey an inverse-square law of attraction.  But it turned out to not be a universal truth and was updated with the <em>Theory</em> of relativity.  This has happened enough times for scientists to recognize that they needed to abandon the use of the term &#8216;law&#8217; and stick strictly to theories.</p>
<p>You also neatly ignored the point about the comparable validity of evolution to other theories which I listed and that you, like everyone else, likely accept as valid.</p>
<blockquote><p>The say that homosexuality is natural or a norm would be the equilivalient [sic] of saying that having six toes is natural among 6 billion.</p></blockquote>
<p>The norm?  I don&#8217;t think <em>anyone</em> claims that it is the norm.  Everyone recognizes homosexuals as a minority group.  It is natural in the sense that it occurs in nature, as does six toed-ness.  The question is whether we should make reasonable accommodations for these minorities.  A minority of the population is born with physical disabilities and we have made accommodations for their differences.  We should extend such courtesy to homosexuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Azmodel</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-102767</link>
		<dc:creator>Azmodel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem A "law" differs from hypotheses, theories, postulates,principles, etc., in that a law is an analytic statement, usually with an empirically determined constant. 
But that is left to be tabled for evolution is not an absolute nor is creationism as is dictated in the two stories of creation. 
The say that homosexuality is natural or a norm would be the equilivalient of saying that having six toes is natural among 6 billion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem A &#8220;law&#8221; differs from hypotheses, theories, postulates,principles, etc., in that a law is an analytic statement, usually with an empirically determined constant.<br />
But that is left to be tabled for evolution is not an absolute nor is creationism as is dictated in the two stories of creation.<br />
The say that homosexuality is natural or a norm would be the equilivalient of saying that having six toes is natural among 6 billion.</p>
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		<title>By: boris</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-102758</link>
		<dc:creator>boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol... looking at evolution vs. the equivalent "theory" from genesis, tell me which one makes more sense and has more evidence to back it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230; looking at evolution vs. the equivalent &#8220;theory&#8221; from genesis, tell me which one makes more sense and has more evidence to back it up.</p>
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		<title>By: sidfaiwu</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-102756</link>
		<dc:creator>sidfaiwu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Again Azmodel,

&lt;blockquote&gt;someone who believes the theory of evolution is a â€˜factâ€™ instead of theory...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Before I finish this quote, I need to pause and educate you on what a scientific theory is.  In science, when an &lt;em&gt;explanatory&lt;/em&gt; idea achieves the status of 'theory', it is considered a great compliment.  That is because a scientific theory is an explanation that has withstood rigorous testing and has been validated again and again by emerging evidence.  An explanatory idea, whether rising to the level of theory or not, can &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; be a fact.  Facts are things that are understood to be true but explain nothing.  An example of a fact would be "There are 12 inches in a foot".  It's true, but doesn't explain what an inch or a foot is.  Compare this some other ideas that are 'just' theories:

- Germ Theory: the idea that illnesses are caused by organism too small to see
- The Theory of Gravity
- The Theory of Relativity
- Plate Tectonic Theory:  The idea that geological objects can be explained by the movement of large chunks of the Earth's crust floating on the Earth's liquid mantel
- Atomic Theory: the idea that matter is made up of the interaction of very small particles too small to see


And those are just a few.  Now I can finish the quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...can beleieve [sic] that homosexuality is normal when by nature the natural desire is to procreate and homosexaulity [sic] would be a dead end&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I addressed this &lt;a href="http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-12276" rel="nofollow"&gt;in a previous comment&lt;/a&gt;, if you care to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Again Azmodel,</p>
<blockquote><p>someone who believes the theory of evolution is a â€˜factâ€™ instead of theory&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Before I finish this quote, I need to pause and educate you on what a scientific theory is.  In science, when an <em>explanatory</em> idea achieves the status of &#8216;theory&#8217;, it is considered a great compliment.  That is because a scientific theory is an explanation that has withstood rigorous testing and has been validated again and again by emerging evidence.  An explanatory idea, whether rising to the level of theory or not, can <em>never</em> be a fact.  Facts are things that are understood to be true but explain nothing.  An example of a fact would be &#8220;There are 12 inches in a foot&#8221;.  It&#8217;s true, but doesn&#8217;t explain what an inch or a foot is.  Compare this some other ideas that are &#8216;just&#8217; theories:</p>
<p>- Germ Theory: the idea that illnesses are caused by organism too small to see<br />
- The Theory of Gravity<br />
- The Theory of Relativity<br />
- Plate Tectonic Theory:  The idea that geological objects can be explained by the movement of large chunks of the Earth&#8217;s crust floating on the Earth&#8217;s liquid mantel<br />
- Atomic Theory: the idea that matter is made up of the interaction of very small particles too small to see</p>
<p>And those are just a few.  Now I can finish the quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;can beleieve [sic] that homosexuality is normal when by nature the natural desire is to procreate and homosexaulity [sic] would be a dead end</p></blockquote>
<p>I addressed this <a href="http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-12276" rel="nofollow">in a previous comment</a>, if you care to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Azmodel</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-102740</link>
		<dc:creator>Azmodel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing what is considered normal. How can someone be a pure evolutionist, that is someone who believes the theory of evolution is a 'fact' instead of theory, can beleieve that homosexuality is normal when by nature the natural desire is to procreate and homosexaulity would be a dead end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing what is considered normal. How can someone be a pure evolutionist, that is someone who believes the theory of evolution is a &#8216;fact&#8217; instead of theory, can beleieve that homosexuality is normal when by nature the natural desire is to procreate and homosexaulity would be a dead end?</p>
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		<title>By: Trogdor</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-102727</link>
		<dc:creator>Trogdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys can't be serious. Look closely at the giraffe picture, it's a joke!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys can&#8217;t be serious. Look closely at the giraffe picture, it&#8217;s a joke!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Only Politics by Anna &#187; Christians Shocked At Natureâ€™s â€œUnnaturalâ€ Behavior</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-102645</link>
		<dc:creator>Only Politics by Anna &#187; Christians Shocked At Natureâ€™s â€œUnnaturalâ€ Behavior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Religious Freaks &#187; Henry Asta La Vista Homosexuals</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-18811</link>
		<dc:creator>Religious Freaks &#187; Henry Asta La Vista Homosexuals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In response to an earlier post about homosexuality in nature, I received a very strong comment from Henry Asta. Now we&#8217;ve discussed this issue before, but read Henry&#8217;s comments&#8230; they are somewhat frightening and provide a little insight into the mind of a hard-core Christian. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In response to an earlier post about homosexuality in nature, I received a very strong comment from Henry Asta. Now we&#8217;ve discussed this issue before, but read Henry&#8217;s comments&#8230; they are somewhat frightening and provide a little insight into the mind of a hard-core Christian. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Asta</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-18776</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Asta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 05:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moved &lt;a href=\"http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/11/27/henry-asta-la-vista-homosexuals/\" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moved <a href=\"http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/11/27/henry-asta-la-vista-homosexuals/\" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Libertador X</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/10/13/christians-shocked-at-natures-unnatural-behavior/#comment-18124</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertador X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to all you, "intelligent" "guys". These animles are "homosexules" or "bisexual", because it is not the same, no?.
-there are sadomasochists? and onlookers? or XXX to ?

My dog fuck cushions and legs of friends. he is "humanfilia"? 

or that this happening?

can hem from a civilization of the esterior space?

the government and Bush know it?

now I watch my dog in a different way. ;)_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to all you, &#8220;intelligent&#8221; &#8220;guys&#8221;. These animles are &#8220;homosexules&#8221; or &#8220;bisexual&#8221;, because it is not the same, no?.<br />
-there are sadomasochists? and onlookers? or XXX to ?</p>
<p>My dog fuck cushions and legs of friends. he is &#8220;humanfilia&#8221;? </p>
<p>or that this happening?</p>
<p>can hem from a civilization of the esterior space?</p>
<p>the government and Bush know it?</p>
<p>now I watch my dog in a different way. ;)_</p>
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