When this story first broke, I was almost sure that is was fake. With elections and all just around the corner I figured this was just another ploy to turn people away from voting Republican (which is not a bad idea). First, Haggard just admitted to buying drugs, then he said there was a massage or two. But when his accuser failed the polygraph I was devastated. I kept the faith though and was rewarded with a full confession by Haggard. So not only was it true, but the icing on the cake is that his accuser outed him because of Haggard’s hypocrisy towards homosexuals. That’s like going on a blind date all nervous only to be greeted by a gorgeous woman and then finding out she’s a contortionist.
I will admit that I dropped the ball on reporting this story. When I first saw it I thought that I was on to something exclusive, but a visit to CNN, MSNBC, and every other news site proved me wrong. It was everywhere and I felt that I had nothing else to add to it, not thinking that you guys would be full of comments. So for that I am sorry. And as a token of forgiveness I present to you this clip from John Stewart summarizing this entire scandal.
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“That’s like going on a blind date all nervous only to be greeted by a gorgeous woman and then finding out she’s a contortionist.”
Hahahaa, that’s brilliant!
well, i asked for it, now I better say something usefull…..
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The good lord giveth, and the lord taketh away?
It’s Karma?
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Irony defined?
nope, can’t think of any words good enough for this.
Brilliant how everyone immediatly rushes to deny any involvement
The knee-jerk response to this story by the liberal media has been simply appalling. I am a card carrying member of the Forgiving Addicts of the Godly Christian Order of Caring and Kind Sodomites (F.A.G.C.O.C.K.S.), and I just have to protest the fact that Pastor Haggard’s desire to share his love towards a fellow man, repeatedly for money, is being demonized to further the liberal crusade against the goodness and wholesomeness of anal sex while under the influence of illegal drugs. Drugs that I might add, are only bad because of the liberal propaganda that says they are somehow “physically and mentally destructive to users and their loved ones”.
I am simply shocked and outraged at the press. I mean, in the United States of America, it is our RIGHT to create cults based on deceit and subtle brainwashing. It’s called freedom of religion, dammit!
There are two things about this incident that I wanted to comment on.
First, what is going through a person’s mind to be doing something like this and holding the position they hold and spewing the supposedly corprorate views of that kind of organization? The level of deception is staggering. In fact, it’s sickening. I believe he called himself a liar and a deciever. At least he nailed that one.
Secondly, and perhaps even more appauling and confusing, is the fact that his congregation is standing by him. HE LIED TO THEM. He took advantage of them as he presented himself to these people as a leader with superior moral character and the knowledge to instruct and counsel. This man obviously had relationships with people who struggled with the things he was indulging in and most certainly gave them Biblical counsel. HE LIED AND LIED AND LIED. Not just once, but consectutively and categorically over at least a three year period. I can understand and comprehend forgiveness toward this man, but anyone who would stand by such a person is a fool.
“Forgiving Addicts of the Godly Christian Order of Caring and Kind Sodomites”
The what now? You came up with that yourself? it’s brilliant
” but anyone who would stand by such a person is a fool.”
Which is why people are running away from him like a cartoonist from a horde of muslims with pitchforks.
Wow.
Simply astonishing.
Having recently seen his ‘altercation’ with Richard Dawkins, and having hated Haggard with a passion, I simply LOVE this kind of development.
I really irked at ‘You biologist have a lot of things you know and a lot of things you don’t, but please d’ont be arrogant’ said in the most arrogant way I ever saw.
Still, isn’t it kinda like the film ‘American beauty’? The military guy is gay deep-down and denies it strongly by oppressing everything gay (and exploding on his son every so often…)
It’s like the reverse adage: If you can’t join them, beat them, or beat on them.
If you gay, you know you’re gay, you do things that prove you’re gay, then you try very hard to fight to against gay rights…
Maybe I missed something here.
I have like every codec written since Julius Caesar, but I still can’t play this file. What the hell does it use?
It’s a Quicktime MPEG4 file.
gasmonso
Just get the k-lite codec pack standard from http://www.free-codecs.com
also you might want the ‘real alternative’ and ‘quicktime alternative’
Those 3 together will let you watch everything without bothering you with quasi-spam overhead.
Snurp, add this to your statement and it makes sense: You know you’re gay, you do things that prove you’re gay, you hate that you are gay, you fight against gay rights.
He fights against those rights because he is conflicted within himself and the only way to solve that confliction is to paradoxically make it bigger… It’s messed up, but it’s how the mind works.
Naery,
My thoughts exactly. Not 2 weeks ago I watched that little “altercation” thinking poor Dawkins actually came off for worse. But I laughed very hard when I saw the news on television about this toss… tickles the sadistic part of me something chronic >:)
The file’s nothing VLC won’t play :)
I can’t even begin to tell you how hard I was laughing as I watched Jesus Camp on Friday. I heard the news on Friday morning and his words in the film couldn’t have been more fitting. Ahh, the hypocrisy. Tastes like burning.
It truly is sad though that Haggard’s religion forces him to hate himself. A rational person would immediately think that perhaps they should change their beliefs. But not uberxtians, they’d rather hate themselves and others like them than deal with the fact that their beliefs are false. Reminds me of Chapelle’s black, blind racist.
Let me once again point out that aside from the hypocrisy, Ted Haggard is a perfectly decent human being.
Homosexual relationships and getting high by the crystal method should not be discouraged when both are pursued responsibly, and it seems like Haggard mostly got this right. The only thing he did wrong was to not tell his wife about his affair. That is what all of us should be harping on, if anything, I suppose.
My point is simple: for us to consistently employ a message that same-sex couples and recreational drug use well within the bounds of moral behavior given proper circumstances, we have to hold everyone to the same standards, even if we cannot stand them. If we are inconsistent, we will only confuse people and fail to win over hearts and minds.
meh, and we wonder how religion got messed up like that?
Simple, people imposing on others thing they can’t even impose on themselves and then a couple generation later, it’s tradition.
Ted do the same, he perpetuates something idiotic, without being able to abide by it and would he had not been discovered, 50 years later he could be cited as example of conduct for his weird preachings
“i think i know what you did last night”
Of course he knows, HE WAS THERE
Somebody give Richard Dawkins the site address so that he can come laugh with us :)
Hahahaha Oh gays way to snag one of the religious nuts… now you just need to get a few skin heads, some ass backwards hicks and you’ll pretty much be a shoe in for the marriage deal
read through most of the posts. you guys dont have to be nasty. he is human and made a terrible mistake. and if you know anything about the christian faith you would know thatGod would forgive him and expects his congregation to do the same and stand by him.maybe you should accept that. be that as it may, homosexuality is not a different way of doing things it is evil in the site of God. love you all and pray for your salvation as well.
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