Here’s a story that that shows just how deep fear mongering has been embedded in the good ole US of A. Here’s a quick summary for those unaware.
Six Muslim imams were removed from a US Airways flight departing out of St. Paul, Minneapolis and questioned for several hours. These dangerous and unruly individuals were ratted out by an anonymous passenger who slipped a note to a flight attendant, possible saving the lives of thousands… if not millions of women and children!
With the recent events of 9/11, one couldn’t possibly blame the passengers, who were obviously in mortal danger. Right? After all these men were engaging in suspicious activities on the flight. Three of the men actually had the nerve to stand and plot the high jacking right there in plain site! Ok, so maybe they were praying together, but how is a planeload of white Christians from the Midwest supposed to know the difference? And when they were "kindly" asked to leave, they flat-out refused! Luckily the Police showed up and saved the lives of all the passengers and avoided another 9/11.
But seriously, how on Earth could a flight attendant ask these people to leave? I know for fact that if I were on that plane I would have stood up and called the act racist. Would I have been taken off the flight? Probably, but I think it’s worth it. This flourishing ignorance on America’s part toward other religions and cultures is saddening as it eats away at the melting pot we once were.
Next time I see some Christian praying on a plane, or even reading a bible, I am going to raise a stink and demand they go to Gitmo for the atrocities committed during the Crusades. Ok, maybe that’s a little silly, but you get my point.
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November 21st, 2006 at 5:30 pm
Who cares?
Businesses have always reserved the right to discriminate who they sell to, and how. I myself am going to use this as an opportunity to register my new “Religion-Free” airlines. We’d be aimed at catering to “Non-Finatic and Stree-Free” individuals, and each plane would have a big “No Prayer” symbol where the “No Smoking” symbols would be.
Hmmm maybe I could get sponsorship from the American Tobacco companies…
November 21st, 2006 at 6:53 pm
No, they’re allowed to refuse service, but not because of race. This was clearly racism.
November 21st, 2006 at 7:01 pm
Why would they come together and start praying? It’s just common sense, they’re muslim, so everyone is already nervous. The last thing they should do is bring attention to themselves. As for US airways, it sounds like they really didn’t have a choice, if they were getting complaints about them they had to do something.
November 21st, 2006 at 7:06 pm
They don’t have to do anything!
If I told the flight attendant that the person in front of me had a bomb, they wouldn’t have to kick them off, now would they?
And they were doing an afternoon prayer, which they do EVERY DAY. One which EVERY Muslim does EVERY day. They’re not just going to stop doing it because paranoid idiots are being idiots.
November 21st, 2006 at 7:13 pm
“They’re not just going to stop doing it because paranoid idiots are being idiots.”
Well if they’re not willing to stop then they have to accept that what they do could get them in trouble. Trust me, I wish it wasnt like this, but with time people will be more accepting.
November 21st, 2006 at 7:37 pm
It’s not fucking Racism! It wouldn’t have mattered if they were painted blue and shitting quarters; The American people as a whole are a fearful race, and well they should be. I mean, they let elected a guy who get’s an entire Continent to hate and kill them.
If I lived in the US, I’d be on the first *cough* plane to somewhere-the-fuck-else.
November 21st, 2006 at 7:57 pm
Anyone that requires proof that you are all going to get NUKED in the name of Allah or something.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9A_vxIOB-I&NR
November 21st, 2006 at 10:22 pm
man, that video shows what utter dicks people can be.
November 22nd, 2006 at 12:43 am
Shaze,
No comment, you show how ignorant you are, even in the language you use, this language could be used in the street in the gito. Grow up.
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:11 am
Well, fear can be a pretty powerful motivator for things like bigotry. So it’s not very surprising when the supposedly good and wholesome people of middle America are so quick to judge by appearances.
As Jesus might say, “Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do.”
Something to consider.
November 22nd, 2006 at 4:17 am
hmm, I know several Muslims from both work and university, and they all “suspend” prayer to later in the day, when they just “catch up” on praying.
But, it is general knowledge that airport people are assholes. It’s just a sad thing that noone was intelligent enough to say ‘this guy’s full of (sh)it, let them sit there in peace.’
It’s also insane that the ‘american people’ have recently aquired this instinct that goes “omhigawd muslims, Run for your lives!!” the reason for which is utterly beyond me.
thanks you US media.
November 22nd, 2006 at 4:46 am
> As Jesus might say, “Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do.â€
And as someone who doesnt believe in the lord might say, “we need better education in place to make sure that people behave with greater respect to our fellow man and not blame some intransient being for their flaws.”
November 22nd, 2006 at 5:43 am
Skyclad, I think the need to rebuke messages containing a religious connotation has kinda pushed you to that comment. It’s understandable, however the message is valid.
I’m not religious. Just FYI.
Anyways, education is of course important, but one must always remember to espouse education as bereft of bias and opinion as possible. Radical Muslims get plenty of education, do they not? An example to keep in mind.
November 22nd, 2006 at 7:25 am
Quite, thought it is probably not the place or time to discuss the details of what a proper unbiased education should be.
As for rebuking messages containing a religious connotation, yes, having read a lot of dawkins/harris in the last few weeks, I am beginning to believe quite strongly that the moderate take, of which this statement is part, is as equally undesirable as the extremist view, and they both propogate and feed each other.
Also, I do not believe that absolution of responsibility by a third (and unaffected party) should be the means through which we obtain forgiveness for acting in an undesirable manner against our fellow man.
Dave
November 22nd, 2006 at 3:19 pm
Given that people reading the Bible and praying probably wouldn’t be kicked off the plane, I find the use of Jesus here quite relevant.
November 22nd, 2006 at 5:42 pm
Exactly. I have found when dealing with Christians, it is best to frame your point within the context of the Bible. Otherwise, they’re too dismissive. It’s an unfortunate reality.
Skyclad: I take it you’ve seen the recent South Park two-parter “Go, God, Go!”? I don’t know if you got the overall message, but I think it’s relevant here. I’m going to assume you’ve seen it and know what I am talking about.
November 28th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
We are obligated as Muslims to pray 5 times a day, at specific times
and we would be sinning if we delayed it from its time.
people need to be educated about this, this is one of the basic things in Islam that any non Muslim who knows Muslim would know.
November 28th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
amatullah, then you shouldn’t be surprised if people get really uneasy when you start doing it on a plane. I know it sucks, but thats the nature of American society after 9/11.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:38 pm
Mohamed:
It’s my language, and the way I choose to express myself is neither childish nor ignorant. I imagine you took exception the Allah comment, but if you are referring to my explitives, you can go ____ yourself.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:41 pm
Mohamed:
Also, you are a foolish child of a person; who get’s his life advice from a text I wouldn’t even use to wipe my ass with. May your life be blessed by children :)
November 29th, 2006 at 5:39 am
matt
I don’t blame the passengers but I blame the dumb airlines
they could have asked the Imams what they were doing, then they could have let the Imams explain to the passengers what they were doing, this way they will be educated and wouldn’t be afraid if they see Muslims praying.
This ignorance and stereotype should not continue.
December 2nd, 2006 at 6:15 pm
Sorry Amatullah, Islam has earned its stereotype with the countless atrocities commited all over the world in the name of Islam. It’s up to Muslims to reverse this stereotype.
Are the majority of people who call themseslves Muslims terrorists? Of course not. And it’s true that there is violent extremist fanaticism in many of the worlds major religions. But what decent peaceful human beings would consider to be dangerous fanaticism is much closer to the mainstream in the Islamic world than it is with other religions; this has become hard to deny.
The fear isn’t a simple matter of bigotry, it’s fueled by recent events and the current state of world affairs.
December 13th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
I am astonished at the lack of information here. Those imams have documented ties to terroist groups. It is widely believed that this was a softening up tactic. They knew that many Americans would react exactly as the posters here have: that to point out their overtly suspicious behavior - not the praying, read about EVERYTHING they did - might be racist. Welcome to dhimmitude people. Please research this incident before making a knee jerk reaction. Read Daniel Pipes or go to jihad watch or dhimmi watch - it is true that they are a little right wing for my usual taste in politics, but they are not afraid to point out the terroist connections that many so-called moderate and innocent Muslims have. Research CAIR for example. The whole board has terroist ties.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
oh oh oh what in world are we people coming to, one says why we dont postpone our prayers for latter the other one says we Muslims have earned this reputation cos of our deeds, hold on guys I think we are bit lost here. First of all we Muslims don’t have any thing to do with 9/11, secondly if other religions have even stopped their prayer which they have to do only once a week why we should stop ours for their convenience.
guys open up your eyes and and try to find reality.
please watch the documentries.
Loose Change
9/11 Control Demolitions
From the Shadows They Create The New World Order
i know they are just conspiracy theories but a resonable mind will make a logic of them.
May Allah give you guidence and keep you on right path.
January 7th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
shah, you truly are a marvel of ignorance. There is video footage of the hijackers meeting with Bin Laden. Bin Laden himself has taken responsibility for the attacks. Seriously, these conspiracy theories are just stupid. Lemme guess, you probably don’t believe man landed on the moon either.
Wake up shah. While I do agree that regular Muslims had little to do with 911, Muslim extremists definitely did. Furthermore, Islam is guilty of one thing and that is letting extremists rule your religion. Muslims spark outrage at events like Abu Ghraib and Muhammed caricatures, but remain silent when Islamic extremists cut innocent people’s heads off and blow up thousands of civilians with suicide bombings.
I could go on, but I’m sure this is falling on deaf ears.
gasmonso
January 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
That’s because it’s ok to murder those of western culture. They don’t care about anything other then getting away with acting like dicks. I’m not going to feel sorry for any of them when Israel decides it’s time to turn Muslim civilization into dust.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Revlic, you are one angry son of a bitch to go spouting shit like that. People like you scare me.
You’d have to be stupid not to understand that even in the most radically controlled countries, there are people who are trapped there and want no part of it. Innocents. Victims of the circumstances they were born into.
War by it’s very nature claims these people along with the rest.
Am I wasting my time trying to explain this to you? You should be grown up enough to understand it already. But then you say stupid assed shit like that and show that you aren’t. I’m just about ready to categorize you as being in the same camp as the rest of the fucktards. Please, show me otherwise.
January 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
To further drive this home, let me explain to you that the very innocents I am talking about are people like ME, GASMONSO, maybe even YOU, and many of the other posters on this site. People that are relatively rational yet surrounded by assholes and delusional people. We suffer for it. And yet you are getting off on the idea of sticking a big fat indiscriminatory phalus in their faces. Destroying their lives. Killing them. You’re severely misguided.
January 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
gasmonso wrote:
“There is video footage of the hijackers meeting with Bin Laden. Bin Laden himself has taken responsibility for the attacks.â€
Osama Bin Laden met with CIA agents. So is that proof that CIA agents were the hijackers? As for Osama Ben Laden claiming responsibility, if you have seen the film “Loose Change,†it clearly shows the “confession†video is a hoax.
You should see the whole film, but if you don’t have the patience, forward the film an hour and 13 minutes ahead. There you will find a discussion of the Ben Laden “confession†video. You can see that he is writing and he is eating with his right hand.
But if you look at the FBI website you read Osama Ben Laden is left handed
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
Here are some more excellent videos about 9/11 investigation.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4194796183168750014&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4260823951534797708&q=9%2F11+evacuations&hl=en
Here is a film about the history of false flag operations enacted by the United States and it also discusses the bombings in Spain and Britain. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5792753647750188322&q=5792753647750188322
I am not saying that Muslims are not involved in terrorism, but I do believe there is Western complicity in some of these terrorist acts.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
I forgot to put the link to the film Loose Change 2nd Edition. SO here it is http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change&hl=en
Forward the film 1 hour and 13 minutes.There you will find a discussion of the Ben Laden “confession†video. You can see that he is writing and he is eating with his right hand.
But if you look at the FBI website http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
You can see that it says Osama Ben Laden is left handed.
January 15th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
@gasmonso
as far as my reserch indicates Usama Bin Ladan didnt accept the responsibilty of 9/11. where as he accept the responsibilties of all other terrorist acts affiliated to his name.
i could go on but i am sure its falling on deaf ears.
January 15th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Hey shah,
“as far as my reserch indicates Usama Bin Ladan didnt accept the responsibilty of 9/11.”
do some research before you make a statement like that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_laden#September_11.2C_2001_attacks
it took me about 15 seconds to find that, maybe you should give it a read
January 16th, 2007 at 12:21 am
Yeah he accepted the responsibility in video you hardly can even see through, and he was using his right hand in writting and it’s known he is left handed.
I don’t defend him, I really hate him, because I think he is an American agent.
January 16th, 2007 at 1:20 am
wait, then what are you trying to say? is he an agent of the US or is that someone else on the film? and dont you think if it was an impostor they would have been smart enough to know he was left handed?
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