It’s time to get ready for the holiday season! The Right Reverend Rabbi Judah and Religious Freaks are kicking off it’s 1st Annual Aryan-Jewish Holiday Toy Drive for needy Aryan children all over the United States.
The Aryan Nation, based in South Carolina, is holding it’s first ever Yule/Christmas Toy Drive. From their site (www.aryan-nations.org) here are the details:
Yule/Christmas Toy Drive
Please help bring a smile to an Aryan boy or girl’s face this Yuletide season. If you’d like to be a part of our first annual toy drive please send wrapped (if possible) gifts, marked either boy or girl and the age group, to:
Aryan Nations Toy Drive
P.O. Box 719
Lexington, SC 29071
Now to make this an extra-special toy drive, we are requesting that you send a nice Jewish or African American gift, a favorite among Aryan kids!
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Regardless of your religious beliefs, or how wrong you think someone else’s beliefs are you shouldn’t actively try to tarnish anyone’s holiday season, especially the holidays of a child who is already underprivileged.
So if some cult, who taught kids at a young age that being tortured is the way to heaven, were in a similar situation, would you find it cruel to send regular toys instead of various torture devices?
Would you not try to persuade these children away from their beliefs in atleast some way?
Also, imposing one’s belief on others is the way things move along, if your belief is that everyone that doesn’t look like you must die, you’ll probably not have much luck with this, as you would have with some love and peace belief.
“Regardless of your religious beliefs, or how wrong you think someone else’s beliefs are you shouldn’t actively try to tarnish anyone’s holiday season, especially the holidays of a child who is already underprivileged.”
That is one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever read. if an african american doll tarnishes some kid’s christmas, it is the fault of the parents/church/nazi lunatic fringe cult that indoctrinated them that way, not the fault of the person who sends the gift.
from this tool’s (lets not mince words here) website:
“This is the equivalent of sending a broken toy, or a piece of coal into Toys for Tots. Regardless of your own beliefs or even how wrong you may think that others beliefs are, if you don’t respect them you’re probably the one making the world a worse place to live.”
It’s quite insulting that you equate an african american doll to a lump of coal. as for respecting others’ beliefs… how much more ridiculous can you get??? “oh we don’t respect the people of nazi germany’s beliefs, so WE must be the ones making the world a worse place to live”.
since half of my family is jewish even though I am not, I feel personally insulted by you. it angers me an indescribable amount. and thats before I’ve even had a chance to meditate upon the aryan douche bags that started this aryan toy drive. though you’re probably one of them.
I don’t celebrate holidays (I have a whole list of excellent reasons for that) anyways, so this is pretty much a non-issue for me.
I will add that this is one really f-ed up post even for gasmonso. Send them Jewish toys, that’ll show ‘em. Nice, gasmonso. Nice. Sure they’re wrong in their racism and that’s obvious, but you don’t have to treat them that way just to prove a point. Sending them something you know is going to f*** with them and cause disruption in their already screwed up lives is called being an insensitive bully. Their parents are underprivileged racist assholes, do the math. What a pleasant home life that’s gotta be. You ought to be ashamed, especially since you are encouraging others to f*** with these messed up unfortunate kids.
It’s not funny, it’s not clever, and it’s not helpful. It’s just plain spiteful.
hmmmm… this is interesting. if we replaced aryan with african-american how many people would find this note-worthy at all?
aryan isn’t as much a description of a race, than it is a description of the nazi beliefs, so can’t really compare it to african-american.
It could be argued that we should respect, or atleast not downrgiht disrespect, people who are racist, the problem here is these racists will try their best to also make their children racist. In atleast america you are just worse off then others if you choose to not work a place where there may be african-americans nearby.
So if the child at some point in their lives realize there isnt a reason to hate people slighty different from herself, because of that one christmas where her parents took away her brand new christmaspresent, it is indeed very helpful, for the child atleast.
A lot more people. Generally speaking, people are more likely to be sympathetic of that group than for the so-called Aryans. I’m not trying to make a point or anything. That’s just the way things are. That’s why I **reluctantly** find myself in the position of being against what gasmonso said at the then of his news post; that we should be taunting these guys like bullies.
I’m not sympathetic towards their philosophy but I am sympathetic to the plight of these poor kids.
It’s about the kids, not the racism. Don’t mess with disadvantaged kids. It’s not right, especially when their home is full of racism. Purposely lighting that fire is just mean and wrong.
Ah Aryans, the screwed up bastards that decided that Nordic (read Vikings, runes, long boats, etc) heritage is somehow a justification of being a racist jackass. More than any other established groups of racists, I think these guys tick me off the most for the fact that I have actually been accused of being one of them once for talking about my Norse ancestry.
Do you think sending them Matisyahu CD’s would be the best gift? Orthodox Jewish Reggae seems like it would be a double whammy.
One could argue that it’s not the poor kids’ fault to be raised in a fascist household. Still, I have no problem with bullying nazis.
I must admit that I am kind of shocked by your tolerance towards these fascists. Did you take a look at their website? Quite scary. All the same mixture of spiritualism and pseudo-scientific garbage that was preached by the NSDAP only sixty years ago. And open propagation of violence. These fucks don’t even try to look moderate!
If there’s a nazi demonstration in my city, twice as much anti-fascists will demonstrate against them. And they will not stay at the place they’ve been designated to but they will try to block the fascists’ path, show them they’re not wanted here, send them back to their homes to think about their beliefs. Is that also childish? Shall we let them have their rally undisturbed? I must clearly say: Never.
I may be, as a German, too sensitive about this issue. I also understand that the US have a history of achieving freedom (at least, legend has it that the nation was founded by people who were driven away from their original homes) and thus cope differently with extreme opinions. And yet: National socialism is not an opinion, it’s a crime. Over here, parties and other organisations wanting to use the freedom granted to them by the constitution to deconstruct exactly this constitution are outlawed (which is on debate but seriously has some good points to it).
Coming back to gasmonso’s suggestion I find it in line with the idea of guerrilla communication (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_communication). I’d expect a similar effect as vk0 if such events happen more often in the adolescence of a person.
I think people are just taking these people as bulk and not discerning what’s acceptable an what’s not in trying to persuade them.
Take a step back, and ask yourself if you you think causing negative reactions in someone’s household is a good way to change their mind. While you are at it, take into account that a child isn’t something that’s justifiable to screw with. Their parents are going to be the ones that ultimately settle the disorder and anger that will be caused, not the kid who is in a position to be influenced and indoctrinated. If you want to reorder someone’s thinking, then this isn’t the way since the parents are going to have the ultimate say in setting the tone out of the disorder that will be caused.
Let there be no doubt. I am very angry at the notion of screwing with the home life of children, especially those who are disadvantaged.
Take a look at my all of my previous posts on this topic if you want to know why.
Gasmosno, I am angry and disappointed in you. I also take issue with the rest of you insensitive bastards who would fuck with CHILDREN who’s only sin is to have been born into a fucked up family.
Don’t mess with children, assholes. That’s not right. Just don’t do it. Yes this is a sensitive spot for me. Yes, it’s because I identify with them. No it’s got nothing to do with racism, because I don’t condone it. You all just don’t get it. I loathe anyone who would screw with the home life of a kid. That’s psychologically damaging and absolutely unforgivable. Yes, this includes the parents of these poor children. They are inexcusable as well.
You are perfectly right, Arktis, that children are not to be punished for the faults of their parents. But at what point would the proposed action be causing psychological damage? I can imagine two fates of such an unwanted gift:
1) The parents have learned about the sabotage of the toy drive and unpack the present to check it before they give it to their child. In this case the child wouldn’t suffer from receiving a “bad” present and we’d be back at bullying nazis (only the parents), which is all right with me.
2) The child unpacks the present itself and gets confused. How can Barbie be black? How can this board game be about jewish history? And this event would plant exactly the seed of doubt in the child’s mind that it needs as a starting point to break free of its indoctrination as soon as it grows out of its parents’ household.
Please, Arktis, construct a case to convince me of the psychological damage an un-aryan gift would cause to a child.
Arktis, I am with atheist on this one. I think you have overreacted… seriously overreacted. I’ve met with neo-nazis before and I guarantee sending them a black Barbie doll is not cruel and unusual. These kids question their beliefs because they watch tv, go out in public, and see people’s reactions when they march.
If an Aryan child receives an African American or Jewish gift, they might might see it as a gift from a black or Jewish person who truly does care about their Christmas.
As a matter of fact, I would like work with Jewish and black organizations to send them lots of gifts under their name.
Sometimes rocking the boat is a good thing and sitting idle is more harmful.
gasmonso
Wow.
It’s like every other issues, people are only shocked by what they think is shocking. (being in a culture that says ‘this’ is shocking’)
The case I am trying to make is that mommy and daddy will use this kind of crap as an excuse to fly off the handle and the kid gets punished and further indoctrinated for it.
I thought this was pretty evident, but I guess people just don’t think along those lines.
And no, I am not overreacting. Have any of you ever grown up with stupid assed parents who are die hard religious closed-minded hypocritical freakazoids? I have, and I’m not taliking about your garden variety religious family, oh no. I am talking about fanatics, which is what these Aryan parents are – make no mistake. I KNOW what kind of reaction is going to come out of that type of parent first hand. It IS damaging to a kid, and it takes YEARS of soul seeking to undo that kind of damage. Gasmonso, what you are proposing would surely make this process all the harder for some of these kids.
I just don’t think any of you get it, or can truly ever understand it.
Arktis,
Was it equally wrong for one2believe to donate Talking Jesus Dolls to Toys for Tots? Orginally Toys for Tots rejected the dolls on the grounds of not wanting to offend Jewish or Muslim families. They later accepted them.
http://philanthropy.com/news/article/1579/toys-for-tots-reverses-decision-on-jesus-dolls
If these parents fly off the handle and beat their kids over a present from someone they don’t know, then they should not have kids. Why are you arguing over a hypothetical unfit parent?
If you think (physical) child abuse among aryans is such a problem, is the right thing to do really nothing? Child abusers are always gonna find excuses to beat their children… if anything, this might help them see what wrong with their parents, and seek help.
Will someone think of the children!
Your Father: You people still don’t get it. I’m not talking about physical abuse. This is just sad. I’ve tried to make my case as well as I could and it is clear to me that unless you’ve been in a family like that, you’re just never going to understand what I have been trying to say.
Andrew: You do bring up a good point, though sending Jesus dolls to random families is not quite as bad as purposely pushing the hot button on a racist religious asshole so the kid can catch another nice full dose of bigotry from his parents, further fucking it up. It also doesn’t help their perception of people outside of their belief system.
African American gifts? Well don’t even think about sending them a big black dildo. That would be wrong.
I’ve helped with a few toy drives, and the sad thing is how wrong the aryans are doing it. They should have consulted with someone from another charity first. Asking for prewrapped packages is asking for trouble. Not just the kind of trouble gasmonso is trying to stir up but real trouble. You’d be amazed — but people will put objects like DJ McFROSTY describe into toy donation boxes. When you blindly hand out prewrapped packages someone will get some sort of dead rodent. This happens in any major toy drive, regardless of race, religion, etc. There are just some sick people out there. I’m sure that thier second annual toy drive won’t ask for wrapped gifts.
Also, gasmonso’s effort is only going to make an impact if the toy is fun. A boring black or jewish toy is still a boring toy. (This is a reason I was against the talking Jesus doll, what’s fun about that?) You could be a bit more subtle by sending a toy that has no racial element (like a matchbox car) but depicts a white child and a black child playing with the toy on the box.
So, yes, think of the children. If you do decide to help gasmonso and send a subversive gift, send something age appropriate and fun. If you smoke or have pets, do not send a plush toy (kids can have allergies).
Just on dide note. Aryan means – An ancient people who spoke an Indo-European language. They came to India in the second millennium BC They composed the Vedas in an archaic form of one of those languages. This Vedic language was later revised and transformed into Sanskrit. OR. Aryan is an English word derived from the Vedic Sanskrit and Avestan term arya, meaning “noble” or “lord”.In the 19th century, the term was often used to refer to what we now call the Proto-Indo-Europeans.Aryan currently refers to the Indo-Iranian language sub-family, or to its Indian sub-branch known as Indo-Aryan. Lovely mister Hitler screwed up not a single good symbol.
So calling Nazis Aryan is the same as calling them Noble. Do look up definitions of the words.
And how do you break line here anyway?
maybe neither
maybe just hit the enter key?
All ingenious are simple!
I guess it is a Monday syndrome.
Now, how would you close the bolding tag?
I’ll try to change my comment form soon to include a WYSIWYG editor.
gasmonso
Thanks gasmono and sorry for the interloping tags. :)
I think the problem with this is that what it will get is not an eye opening experience for a kid but either a very pissed off set of (already aknowledged as ) unfit parents or a disappointing Christmas where a gift that was promised is not delivered. In either case, you’re not getting the change in the kid you want.
In case one, you get the kid getting even more abused (emotionally or physically) than they would have been before. In case two, you are emotionally abusing the child yourself by getting their hopes up only to pull the rug out from under them. The only case where you get an eye opening experience (like what you want) is if the kid gets to open the toy and play with it, then the parents act rationally when they take it away. (What are the odds of an underprivledged racially motivated parent reacting rationally?) In any other situation, it’s going to end badly for the kid.
It sounds like a good idea, but it’s not, really. You only end up hurting a kid who is already getting hurt enough. It’s like slapping a kid to punish his parents because his parents slap him. Who’s missing out? Not the f-ed up parents, no, just a kid who’s being raised by some f-ed up people. And they most likely would not even realize why if you told them.
Finally, someone who gets it.
The concept of the NSM or like minded groups or org’s. is…
Moral
Spiritual
Material
If your views don’t fall under these then you must ask yourself do you truely represent the views of the org?
So often I fine people who have “white Pride”
To be truely ignorant of what that’s really all about and they are poorly educated and give a bad name to such a moral spiritual and material cause.
I hate people who hate people based on their skin color as opposed to their ideals their culture and or their way of life.
Or people that don’t understand what an aryan truely is.
I hate niggers spics etc this includes race tradders or white niggers as well.
One has to understand and overcome their own ignorance or biased as to what these words are truely defined as as opposeed as to what people have twisted them to mean.
I have black and jewish etc friends who are proud of their haritage or have created a better heritage then that of what their ansestors gave them or cursed them with.
I am white and I am proud of that. howcome if it is black pride or other it’s not viewed as raciest but when it comes to white pride it’s always viewed as racial?
Perhaps cause there are alot of ignorant prideful people.
If another race or majority of people of another race or faith are corrupt then that problem has to be resolved before it corrupts others.
Let alone before it destroys their own.
I have been in jewish communities and seen how devided they truely are and all the infighting same is true for the blacks and hapanics or white trash and how they have no true pride in their race.
How can someone claim to be white and proud if they are lazy and don’t work or dont even help out their own race.
I have seen to much of this and it is time to overcome this.
Shawn,
You are an imbecile. Mutated inbred genes are dictating half of what you think, do, and grunt. The rest is your fault, and let’s talk about your fault. Nah, you’re not worth it.
But do your pathetic band of misfits-uber-alles a favor and learn how to spell.
Hey, that way you just might come across as human. Not superior, but that’s all in your cretinous heads, but human.
Then, you’ll proceed to prove that, in fact, you’re anything but human. Go for it, ape.
Merry Christmas, anti-Christ,
James
Giving toys to kids at christmas is racist.
Now i’ve heard it all.
PRAISE JEHOVAH
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