Comments on: Green Light For More Jewish Stupidities http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/ Have faith in yourself Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:29:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: E Grun http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-175548 E Grun Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:24:47 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-175548 Couldn't Catholics against birth control accidently slip and somehow get a condom on there penis or accidently take a birth control pill? They are ORTHODOX this is their belief. It is no different to tell an anti abortionist to "accidently" fall down the stairs or somehow have a miscarriage. Couldn’t Catholics against birth control accidently slip and somehow get a condom on there penis or accidently take a birth control pill? They are ORTHODOX this is their belief. It is no different to tell an anti abortionist to “accidently” fall down the stairs or somehow have a miscarriage.

]]> By: Alcari http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-158033 Alcari Sat, 03 May 2008 19:36:00 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-158033 Wait, which verse says Jews can't use electricity on the Shabbat? That must take some horribly creative interpretation. Wait, which verse says Jews can’t use electricity on the Shabbat? That must take some horribly creative interpretation.

]]> By: DMBfan http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-157328 DMBfan Sat, 03 May 2008 00:36:09 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-157328 I'm jewish, so I believe I can clarify this issue. I believe that main problem is not that there is work involved, but that the buttons are electronic. On shabbat, Orthodox Jews do not use any sort of electricity. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way Orthodox. I'm reform, and I think all the religious nutjobs in the world, regardless of religious affiliation, need to settle down. I’m jewish, so I believe I can clarify this issue.
I believe that main problem is not that there is work involved, but that the buttons are electronic. On shabbat, Orthodox Jews do not use any sort of electricity.

Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way Orthodox. I’m reform, and I think all the religious nutjobs in the world, regardless of religious affiliation, need to settle down.

]]> By: Kotoro http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-110926 Kotoro Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:38:06 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-110926 its a good thing they allow creation of a new life, are they talking about conception here or birth? It makes sense in the case of birth, can't really forestall that easily or safely once its started if you aren't allowed to do work. Heck, its probably hard to do anyway. its a good thing they allow creation of a new life, are they talking about conception here or birth? It makes sense in the case of birth, can’t really forestall that easily or safely once its started if you aren’t allowed to do work. Heck, its probably hard to do anyway.

]]> By: Dan (Fitness) http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-108090 Dan (Fitness) Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:59:41 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-108090 In Judaism there is always an exception for health. If you can get out of fasting because you aren't feeling so hot, I can't see something this silly being allowed to pose a threat. This is just stupidity. In Judaism there is always an exception for health. If you can get out of fasting because you aren’t feeling so hot, I can’t see something this silly being allowed to pose a threat. This is just stupidity.

]]> By: Religious Freaks » It’s Not High-Def, It’s Haredim-Def! http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-107986 Religious Freaks » It’s Not High-Def, It’s Haredim-Def! Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:57:20 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-107986 [...] religious sect known as the Haredim. Some of you might remember them from the infamous “crosswalk” article I wrote a year [...] [...] religious sect known as the Haredim. Some of you might remember them from the infamous “crosswalk” article I wrote a year [...]

]]> By: keef http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-37556 keef Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:13:51 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-37556 No working on the sabbath... does that mean in Israel there is no power/water/ambulances etc? No working on the sabbath… does that mean in Israel there is no power/water/ambulances etc?

]]> By: Mark http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-33225 Mark Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:09:10 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-33225 "I didn’t do a lot of practicing when I was younger" That is to say, I still don't. heh “I didn’t do a lot of practicing when I was younger” That is to say, I still don’t.

heh

]]> By: Mark http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-33224 Mark Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:08:35 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-33224 Most 'work' as defined from a Jewish perspective involves creation or destruction. You aren't allowed to tear or cut, you aren't allowed to set fire to things/put out fires. Any electricity that is on at the time that sundown hits must stay on and anything off must stay off. Carrying is not allowed unless you are within an eruv, and even then, I think there are some restrictions then. Cooking, too, is okay as long as you start before sundown. Stews in crock pots or cold-cuts bought before hand are very often served for lunch on the sabbath. Handling money and tools are not allowed either. I didn't do a lot of practicing when I was younger, and so I kind of just learned the rules of the road, as it were, even though I never had bothered with following the silly things. Most ‘work’ as defined from a Jewish perspective involves creation or destruction.

You aren’t allowed to tear or cut, you aren’t allowed to set fire to things/put out fires.
Any electricity that is on at the time that sundown hits must stay on and anything off must stay off.

Carrying is not allowed unless you are within an eruv, and even then, I think there are some restrictions then.

Cooking, too, is okay as long as you start before sundown. Stews in crock pots or cold-cuts bought before hand are very often served for lunch on the sabbath.

Handling money and tools are not allowed either.

I didn’t do a lot of practicing when I was younger, and so I kind of just learned the rules of the road, as it were, even though I never had bothered with following the silly things.

]]> By: R Lee Smith http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-25010 R Lee Smith Mon, 01 Jan 2007 03:07:37 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/12/18/green-light-for-more-jewish-stupidities/#comment-25010 I can’t believe it, its almost 2007 and you guys are still at it. At least we Jews give you something to talk about. Here is the idea again: Work means among other things conscious purposeful control of technology/energy-- especially energy created by fire which includes electric energy. On the seventh day we sit back from the wonderous technology that humanity has created (using our God-given brains during the other 6 days of the week) and enjoy it. Is that really so hard for you to understand? We don’t light fires and we don’t turn on or off electrical applicances or traffic lights — NOT EVEN INSIDE OUR ERUV! Non Jews are not bound by these particular laws so if you, a non Jew, pushes the button for your own needs I can also cross with you (but I can’t ask you to do it for me). The detectors being described would not work so far as I know (but I’m not a Rabbi). There is one sort of exception — one can create new life on the Sabbath (I think it’s a blessing to do so) but that’s not really a technology creation. I realize that some view adherence to a set of religious laws as being silly from their perspective (you probably laugh at all sorts of things that are different from you — that’s known as intolerance and has been a plague of humanity forever_ but am a bit surprised that you “rationalists” never seem to be able to fathom the logic behind the rules which are really extremely self consistent. when it comes to saving a life or self defense when it obligated to save a life and take any and all steps to do so. This over-rides any specific prohibitions of the Sabbath and is part of the general law that one must try to keep Gods "Sabbaths", plural, that is live to keep the next Sabbath. Carrying in a public domain is prohibited on the Sabbath but most forms of work are forbidden whether inside or outside the Eruv. One can flush the toilet but not an electric toilet. This can create a problem with toilets that flush based on one walking away from the toilet. Buy the way, the concept of the Sabbath is considered by many to have been something that has helped keep the Jewish people together throughout the centuries which means its not so much that Jews keep the Sabbath but that the Sabbath keeps the Jews. Happy secular New Year for those of you who celebrate the bris (circumcision) of Jesus, born on Christmas and circumcised 8 days later as is the requirement for Jewish male children -- from before the time of Jesus till the present day. rlee I can’t believe it, its almost 2007 and you guys are still at it. At least we Jews give you something to talk about. Here is the idea again: Work means among other things conscious purposeful control of technology/energy– especially energy created by fire which includes electric energy. On the seventh day we sit back from the wonderous technology that humanity has created (using our God-given brains during the other 6 days of the week) and enjoy it. Is that really so hard for you to understand? We don’t light fires and we don’t turn on or off electrical applicances or traffic lights — NOT EVEN INSIDE OUR ERUV! Non Jews are not bound by these particular laws so if you, a non Jew, pushes the button for your own needs I can also cross with you (but I can’t ask you to do it for me). The detectors being described would not work so far as I know (but I’m not a Rabbi). There is one sort of exception — one can create new life on the Sabbath (I think it’s a blessing to do so) but that’s not really a technology creation.

I realize that some view adherence to a set of religious laws as being silly from their perspective (you probably laugh at all sorts of things that are different from you — that’s known as intolerance and has been a plague of humanity forever_ but am a bit surprised that you “rationalists” never seem to be able to fathom the logic behind the rules which are really extremely self consistent.

when it comes to saving a life or self defense when it obligated to save a life and take any and all steps to do so. This over-rides any specific prohibitions of the Sabbath and is part of the general law that one must try to keep Gods “Sabbaths”, plural, that is live to keep the next Sabbath.

Carrying in a public domain is prohibited on the Sabbath but most forms of work are forbidden whether inside or outside the Eruv. One can flush the toilet but not an electric toilet. This can create a problem with toilets that flush based on one walking away from the toilet.

Buy the way, the concept of the Sabbath is considered by many to have been something that has helped keep the Jewish people together throughout the centuries which means its not so much that Jews keep the Sabbath but that the Sabbath keeps the Jews.

Happy secular New Year for those of you who celebrate the bris (circumcision) of Jesus, born on Christmas and circumcised 8 days later as is the requirement for Jewish male children — from before the time of Jesus till the present day.

rlee

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