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	<title>Comments on: Islam Sees Wife-Beating As Therapy</title>
	<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/</link>
	<description>Have faith in yourself</description>
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		<title>By: irishthunder</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30206</link>
		<dc:creator>irishthunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mohamed, if you need that to make you feel right maybe you should consider another way of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mohamed, if you need that to make you feel right maybe you should consider another way of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulrik</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30082</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30082</guid>
		<description>"Hadhrat Maria Qibtia (ra) was presented to the Prophet (pbuh) by the ruler of Egypt."

This sentence here I got from a muslim homepage. Not many jews use the (pbuh).

You write that Muhammed didnt make any laws about garlic eating. Fine. Is that also something you just write out of the blue?

"Man seriously, you have something wrong with you"

Well I'm not the supersticious one who think stoning has positive aspects and that slavery is honourable if the master is the right one. You are.

"I really start to think that you are not objective in what you search about Muhammed.."

I have already told you twice before. I am not searching for the good stuff. Plenty of people do that You have claimed Muhammed was a glorious man etc. I have found specific parts which indicates that he was not what he claimed to be but an imposter.

"werid, it’s the same reason I come here too, it makes me feel I’m right."
That just prove you don't learn from what other people write. Perhaps not even reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hadhrat Maria Qibtia (ra) was presented to the Prophet (pbuh) by the ruler of Egypt.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sentence here I got from a muslim homepage. Not many jews use the (pbuh).</p>
<p>You write that Muhammed didnt make any laws about garlic eating. Fine. Is that also something you just write out of the blue?</p>
<p>&#8220;Man seriously, you have something wrong with you&#8221;</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m not the supersticious one who think stoning has positive aspects and that slavery is honourable if the master is the right one. You are.</p>
<p>&#8220;I really start to think that you are not objective in what you search about Muhammed..&#8221;</p>
<p>I have already told you twice before. I am not searching for the good stuff. Plenty of people do that You have claimed Muhammed was a glorious man etc. I have found specific parts which indicates that he was not what he claimed to be but an imposter.</p>
<p>&#8220;werid, it’s the same reason I come here too, it makes me feel I’m right.&#8221;<br />
That just prove you don&#8217;t learn from what other people write. Perhaps not even reading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30079</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30079</guid>
		<description>werid, it's the same reason I come here too, it makes me feel I'm right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>werid, it&#8217;s the same reason I come here too, it makes me feel I&#8217;m right.</p>
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		<title>By: irishthunder</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30067</link>
		<dc:creator>irishthunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30067</guid>
		<description>"stop going to the Jewis web sites and read because they will mislead you."
That made me laugh out loud, i suppose you think youve been "objective" in your search of muhammed.  The fact is you really cant be objective when you study something like religion, everyone comes to the table with their own opinions and mindset.  One of the biggest reasons i come to this site now is to read the crazy shit you post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;stop going to the Jewis web sites and read because they will mislead you.&#8221;<br />
That made me laugh out loud, i suppose you think youve been &#8220;objective&#8221; in your search of muhammed.  The fact is you really cant be objective when you study something like religion, everyone comes to the table with their own opinions and mindset.  One of the biggest reasons i come to this site now is to read the crazy shit you post.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30020</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-30020</guid>
		<description>Maria as I think was one of his wives, and as I think she was an Egyptian, so I don't know where you get she was his slave.

Look that's what you all about, take one word and misstated and make it like fact, he didn't make a law about the garlic, he couldn't eat garlic before he went to pray, other wise Muslims would prohibit the garlic as the Pork. 


Man seriously, you have something wrong with you, I really start to think that you are not objective in what you search about Muhammed, stop going to the Jewis web sites and read because they will mislead you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria as I think was one of his wives, and as I think she was an Egyptian, so I don&#8217;t know where you get she was his slave.</p>
<p>Look that&#8217;s what you all about, take one word and misstated and make it like fact, he didn&#8217;t make a law about the garlic, he couldn&#8217;t eat garlic before he went to pray, other wise Muslims would prohibit the garlic as the Pork. </p>
<p>Man seriously, you have something wrong with you, I really start to think that you are not objective in what you search about Muhammed, stop going to the Jewis web sites and read because they will mislead you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulrik</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-29972</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-29972</guid>
		<description>Mohamed wrote:
“He had slaves before Islam, and he didn’t have any after Islam”

Not true. I have a feeling you just wrote that because you want it to be true. You didn’t even bother to check it out and probably hoped nobody else could or would. Am I correct?

There are plenty of examples from his personal life, his laws and “revelations”. All clearly shows how he looked on slavery. I have given you examples of this earlier.

Here is one final example.
When Muhammed had worked as a prophet for many years and was getting old, he finally had a son with a slavegirl named Maria. Muhammed was so happy that he gave a slave as a gift to the man who brought the good news. The slavegirl was also given her freedom, but according to Muhammed, only as a reward because she had given birth to Muhammeds son.

If you make a claim without even knowing whether or not its true, you are actually lying. How does your God look at dishonesty?

“..and since when that this area plant cucumber and pumpkin, were you joking or you talking serious.”

No and you should know that because you wrote earlier:
“Just read how they were eating, and what they were eating, they didn’t care that much for what they eat.”

You wrote that too without knowing anything about it? He even made laws against eating garlic. Thats what sociopaths in power does – tries to control other people.

“So to talk about Muhammed, I would like to be his slave, that would be honor to be slave for such a person, so stop get your fake stories.”

I got good news for you then. You ARE his slave. You are the mental slave of a man who has been dead for a very long time. Anything he says you accept without doubt – that makes you his slave. You have defended stoning and also now slavery on this forum. You consider it an honour to be your prophets slave? How would you like to have been his slavegirl? Seriously.
By the way my fake stories all come from arabien sources.

“..to argue that Muhammed was greedy and he kept slaves, you will lose this argument easily..”, “..to show how the westerner couldn’t say any bad thing about him, on contrary, they glorify him.”

What exactly makes him glorious?

He had revelations that said he could have any woman he wanted, that women who refused to have sex with their husband would be damned by angels, that his own wifes were not allowed to be seen by other men and that they were not allowed to marry after his dead.

He had revelations that told people to obey him. People who didnt follow his many rules were threatend with hell – more than any other religion has ever done.

He promised his followers heaven and wealth to make sure they fought and died in his many battles which were almost all battles he himself started.

He assassinated poets who saw through his scheme and in one war he slaughtered an entire male population after they surrendered. Anyone who left his cult was to be killed.

– and finally he did keep people in slavery and married a child.

All this is not the work of a glorious man. A sociopath perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohamed wrote:<br />
“He had slaves before Islam, and he didn’t have any after Islam”</p>
<p>Not true. I have a feeling you just wrote that because you want it to be true. You didn’t even bother to check it out and probably hoped nobody else could or would. Am I correct?</p>
<p>There are plenty of examples from his personal life, his laws and “revelations”. All clearly shows how he looked on slavery. I have given you examples of this earlier.</p>
<p>Here is one final example.<br />
When Muhammed had worked as a prophet for many years and was getting old, he finally had a son with a slavegirl named Maria. Muhammed was so happy that he gave a slave as a gift to the man who brought the good news. The slavegirl was also given her freedom, but according to Muhammed, only as a reward because she had given birth to Muhammeds son.</p>
<p>If you make a claim without even knowing whether or not its true, you are actually lying. How does your God look at dishonesty?</p>
<p>“..and since when that this area plant cucumber and pumpkin, were you joking or you talking serious.”</p>
<p>No and you should know that because you wrote earlier:<br />
“Just read how they were eating, and what they were eating, they didn’t care that much for what they eat.”</p>
<p>You wrote that too without knowing anything about it? He even made laws against eating garlic. Thats what sociopaths in power does – tries to control other people.</p>
<p>“So to talk about Muhammed, I would like to be his slave, that would be honor to be slave for such a person, so stop get your fake stories.”</p>
<p>I got good news for you then. You ARE his slave. You are the mental slave of a man who has been dead for a very long time. Anything he says you accept without doubt – that makes you his slave. You have defended stoning and also now slavery on this forum. You consider it an honour to be your prophets slave? How would you like to have been his slavegirl? Seriously.<br />
By the way my fake stories all come from arabien sources.</p>
<p>“..to argue that Muhammed was greedy and he kept slaves, you will lose this argument easily..”, “..to show how the westerner couldn’t say any bad thing about him, on contrary, they glorify him.”</p>
<p>What exactly makes him glorious?</p>
<p>He had revelations that said he could have any woman he wanted, that women who refused to have sex with their husband would be damned by angels, that his own wifes were not allowed to be seen by other men and that they were not allowed to marry after his dead.</p>
<p>He had revelations that told people to obey him. People who didnt follow his many rules were threatend with hell – more than any other religion has ever done.</p>
<p>He promised his followers heaven and wealth to make sure they fought and died in his many battles which were almost all battles he himself started.</p>
<p>He assassinated poets who saw through his scheme and in one war he slaughtered an entire male population after they surrendered. Anyone who left his cult was to be killed.</p>
<p>– and finally he did keep people in slavery and married a child.</p>
<p>All this is not the work of a glorious man. A sociopath perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Agony</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-28579</link>
		<dc:creator>Agony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So he had enough money to buy and feed a slave, yet he was poor?

You never answered about the houses of his 9 wives(supposing that he had only 9. Mohammed had 9 women at the same time, but he had a total of 12)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he had enough money to buy and feed a slave, yet he was poor?</p>
<p>You never answered about the houses of his 9 wives(supposing that he had only 9. Mohammed had 9 women at the same time, but he had a total of 12)</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-28534</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-28534</guid>
		<description>He had slaves before Islam, and he didn't have any after Islam, I don't where you got your resources, and since when that this area plant cucumber and pumpkin, were you joking or you talking serious.

And here something for you to know, there was young kid lost his family, and then he ended to be slave in the market, and Prophet Muhammed bought him before Islam, and then after a while his parents knew where is he, so they headed to Muhammed and ask him to pay money and get him back, so Muhammed told them if the kid agreed, I will let him go for free(because he knows how the kid like him, and he didn't want to show the kid that he want to get rid of him), the kid refused to go back with his parents, and he rather to stay with Muhammed and Kjadeeja, and that was before even Islam.

So to talk about Muhammed, I would like to be his slave, that would be honor to be slave for such a person, so stop get your fake stories.

One more thing, to argue that Muhammed was greedy and he kept slaves, you will lose this argument easily, and that's why I put this quotos up to show how the westerner couldn't say any bad thing about him, on contrary, they glorify him.

Power, wealth and women, you are losing the argument big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He had slaves before Islam, and he didn&#8217;t have any after Islam, I don&#8217;t where you got your resources, and since when that this area plant cucumber and pumpkin, were you joking or you talking serious.</p>
<p>And here something for you to know, there was young kid lost his family, and then he ended to be slave in the market, and Prophet Muhammed bought him before Islam, and then after a while his parents knew where is he, so they headed to Muhammed and ask him to pay money and get him back, so Muhammed told them if the kid agreed, I will let him go for free(because he knows how the kid like him, and he didn&#8217;t want to show the kid that he want to get rid of him), the kid refused to go back with his parents, and he rather to stay with Muhammed and Kjadeeja, and that was before even Islam.</p>
<p>So to talk about Muhammed, I would like to be his slave, that would be honor to be slave for such a person, so stop get your fake stories.</p>
<p>One more thing, to argue that Muhammed was greedy and he kept slaves, you will lose this argument easily, and that&#8217;s why I put this quotos up to show how the westerner couldn&#8217;t say any bad thing about him, on contrary, they glorify him.</p>
<p>Power, wealth and women, you are losing the argument big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulrik</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-28499</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He loved pumpkin, cucumber and fresh dates but hated garlic, so you are right he MUST have been poor then.

Never mind that he lived in a large house with 9 wifes and slaves and didnt need to work. right?

Come on Mohamed - Is that all you got? his taste in food? I still say your prophet was greedy for power, wealth and women and appearently you owe me an apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He loved pumpkin, cucumber and fresh dates but hated garlic, so you are right he MUST have been poor then.</p>
<p>Never mind that he lived in a large house with 9 wifes and slaves and didnt need to work. right?</p>
<p>Come on Mohamed - Is that all you got? his taste in food? I still say your prophet was greedy for power, wealth and women and appearently you owe me an apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-28495</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/01/05/islam-sees-wife-beating-as-therapy/#comment-28495</guid>
		<description>Just read how they were eating, and what they were eating, they didn't care that much for what they eat.

Omar Bin Elkatab borrowed peiece fo cloth from his son, because he can't take more than the other Muslims take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read how they were eating, and what they were eating, they didn&#8217;t care that much for what they eat.</p>
<p>Omar Bin Elkatab borrowed peiece fo cloth from his son, because he can&#8217;t take more than the other Muslims take.</p>
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