When I saw this story, I was convinced it was either a joke or at least inaccurate. But as reality has proven in the past; life truly is stranger than fiction. Come with me to Herouxville, Quebec where the local government has laid down the town rules in a very unique and clear fashion.
It’s best to just read their Publication of Standards. But in the interest of time I will highlight a few of the more entertaining rules as taken directly from their document:
We would especially like to inform the new arrivals that the lifestyle that they left behind in their birth country cannot be brought here with them and they would have to adapt to their new social identity.
We consider that men and women are of the same value. Having said this, we consider that a woman can; drive a car, vote, sign checks, dance, decide for herself, speak her peace, dress as she sees fit respecting of course the democratic decency, walk alone in public places, study, have a job, have her own belongings and anything else that a man can do. These are our standards and our way of life. However, we consider that killing women in public beatings, or burning them alive are not part of our standards of life.
We listen to music, we drink alcoholic beverages in public or private places, we dance and at the end of every year we decorate a tree with balls and tinsel and some lights. This is normally called “Christmas Decorations†or also “Christmas Tree†letting us rejoice in the notion of our national heritage and not necessarily a religious holiday. These festivities are authorized in public, schools, and institutions and also in private.
You may not hide your face as to be able to identify you while you are in public. The only time you may mask or cover your face is during Halloween.
For the longest time boys and girls have played the same games and often play together. For example, if you came to my place we would send the kids to swim together in the pool, don’t be surprised this is normal for us. You would see men and women skiing together on the same hill at the same time, don’t be surprised this is normal for us. You would also see men and women playing hockey together, don’t be surprised this is normal for us. In our public swimming pools we have men and women lifeguards for our security to protect us from drowning, don’t be surprised this is normal for us.
There’s plenty more where that came from. Honestly there is nothing wrong with these rules in and of themselves, except for the fact that they’re obviously aimed at Muslim immigrants. The question is very simple. Is this town justified in its decision to post these rules that are obviously based on Muslim stereotypes?
Salam Elmenyawi, president of the Muslim Council of Montreal, said that the declaration had “set the clock back for decades” as far as race relations were concerned. He added, “I was shocked and insulted to see these kinds of false stereotypes and ignorance about Islam and our religion … in a public document written by people in authority who discriminate openly.”
But are these false stereotypes? Secondly, is this truly discrimination and if so, can discrimination be justified at times?
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January 31st, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Wasn’t there a similar issue with a Dutch immigration video?
I’m not sure where I stand on this issue. The standards seem to be an accurate description of the town’s culture, but it does seem to highlight the differences with stereotyped Muslim cultures alone.
I’m interested in everyone’s thoughts on this one as well.
January 31st, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Well… I could not find any reference to Muslims in this document. If Muslims got offended by this, therefore the stereotype is correct. It is like if I shout on the street “Hey Idiot”. Those who do not consider themselves idiots will mind they own business, others…
January 31st, 2007 at 4:06 pm
To me, it does not seem so bad a set of rules, apart it being all too interested in the women, men do not seem to be as protected and the piece of blood transfusions would surely ruffle some feathers.
There could be some problems with the rules if enforced by the letter instead of the intent.
January 31st, 2007 at 4:40 pm
I don’t think it’s singling out any one religion or country. There are many countries where there is still a large amount of sexism, no matter what the official religion is or if there even is one. I think that the makers of this document probably had that in mind when they set it up.
January 31st, 2007 at 4:42 pm
have people sign a contract before moving into your town/country and you can simply kick them out for not adapting to your social values.
anyway, I’m all for pointing out where you stand and what you think. It would be better if it weren’t this patronising though.
January 31st, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Quebec is a very non religious place.
Most of my peers are atheists and some are non practising god-believers. It’s more common for a french person to be atheist than an english person. We’re not scared to say we’re atheists but it’s never an issue to begin with.
With that said, Herouxville is also a remote place. In Quebec you’ll only find ethnicities in Montreal and around it. They don’t care about the places where people only speak french.
Basically they’re saying what every Quebecois thinks, because we’re being overwhelmed by mixed religions trying to change our way of life.
The sikh got the right to carry knives at school. The jews were able to force a YMCA to barricate their windows because women were working out. The jews are teaching their students about the torah instead of teaching french, history and geography. We’re tolerant, but there’s a limit. Come to our country, live by our customs.
January 31st, 2007 at 7:51 pm
A female muslim police woman that refuses to touch men because it’s against her religion…
January 31st, 2007 at 8:04 pm
I have not read the complete article but i hope they mention things like:
* Not allowing blood transfusions that would safe a person’s life is not allowed.
* Nailing yourself to a cross in order to thank Jesus for your baby is not allowed
* Brainwashing little children until they have nothing but “I will burn in hell if i don’t follow the lord” in their heads is not allowed
Anybody here cares to mention a few other things that should be added?
January 31st, 2007 at 8:20 pm
Killing your children by refusing them any non-vegan foods is not allowed.
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/child_abuse.html
Brainwashing your children to hate particular racial, ethnic, or religious groups is not allowed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue_(American_duo)
And of course: Forcing people to speak FRENCH should not be allowed :)
January 31st, 2007 at 9:23 pm
From what you have listed above I think the document is politically acceptable overall. But my only problem is the listing of covering ones face in public. IMO this is taking things too far. If people wish to hide their faces in public then that is their choice. But refusing to remove said covering in certain circumstances is also unacceptable.
On another note, how can a township dictate who can and who can not live their??? They talk of not discriminating against race, sex etc, but they seem to think they have the right to do it themselves.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:05 am
“”We’re tolerant, but there’s a limit. Come to our country, live by our customs.”"
I love the Dutch policy of “You’ve got a problem with it, do something about it as long as it doesn’t bother me”
“”Killing your children by refusing them any non-vegan foods is not allowed.”"
huh? how does that kill people? I’m vegetarian myself and i’m not dead yet.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:46 am
@Alcari
Nutritional, vitamin and mineral deficiency have been found among children of vegan parents, mainly because vegan parents are not nutrition experts, and neither is the clerk down at the veggie shop.
Infants and small children have other nutrition needs than adults. Putting children on vegan diet because of some ethical or environmental believes should therefore only be done under supervision of doctors or even better, not done at all.
BTW: I’m not saying that being a vegan is stupid or anything, I’m just pointing out that one can not extrapolate one owns nutrition needs to the nutrition needs of ones children. So, yes “Killing your children by refusing them any non-vegan foods is not allowed†is indeed something that should be included, because this is another of those instances where one person finds something that holds true for oneself, and automatically thinks it holds true for all.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:21 am
@Alcari: Vegitarian isn’t vegan. Vegan is no animal products whatsoever, because agriculture is inherently a form of cruel imprisonment. No milk, No eggs, nothing.
While probably quite healthy for adults, and streets ahead of a McDiet, It’s very very very bad for infants:
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=vegan+child+died
Like NewOne says - you would have to be quite a nutritionalist to even get close to getting it right - and then chances are the research you might need to know about isn’t even going to be done until 5 years from now.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:52 am
Yet again, French-speakers are on the cutting edge of culture. I believe I’ve found the town where i’ll retire.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:02 am
This article was very interesting to me. Sparking my first post on this website.
First: There is something that rings very true with these ‘rules’. I think it is something that most of us would agree with.
Second: There appears to be something sinister underneath it all. I can not quite put my finger on it but it makes me a little uncomfortable.
Therefore, is there a middle ground that we can deal with this dichomety of right on one hand and wrong on the other?
How do we strive to maintain our culture and still be open and free by accepting in other cultures?
This is not so easy to answer I fear.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pm
I do not see the need to ‘maintain’ culture. Culture is an ever-changing thing, elusive at best. Who should choose the culture to ‘maintain’?
“…the lifestyle that they left behind in their birth country cannot be brought here with them…” Why not? Why is it so dangerous to have an extra lifestyle in a town? This is, in my opinion, a dangerous way to phrase things.
Imposing a lifestyle on others - that’s another thing. That’s where the line needs to be drawn, regardless of where you start.
February 1st, 2007 at 4:55 pm
@ new one and recovered atholic
Sorry about that, my finger were faster the my brain on that one.
@ Mundilfare
It’s not the subtle and gradual change that people object to, it’s sudden things they don’t like.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pm
A few thoughts on the matter…
* Their “Declaration of Standards” is very poorly written. At various points in the document: it rambles; it’s redundant; it omits relevant items; it gets things wrong; the line spacing arbitrarily changes; and it repeatedly fails to use proper punctuation. If I were to give the authors the benefit of the doubt, I might think that they didn’t really expect much of anyone to ever read this thing. But such an assumption is probably incorrect… they probably knew and intended that it would be published it in the local newspaper. (So why didn’t they put in a little more effort?)
* “…the results of our poll regarding this issue.”
Was there, perhaps, a public poll/questionnaire regarding these issues? Is that the origin of this document? Regardless of its many flaws, does it accurately reflect at least some of the sentiments of the majority of the local populace?
* In Herouxville, Christmas is “not necessarily a religious holiday” while “Halloween… is a traditional religious custom…”
Are things really different in Quebec? I grew up in California, and I “always” knew of the religious aspect of Christmas, but only much later did I learn of any vague religious connection with Halloween. And, of course, in my family we celebrated both days, giving them no religious significance whatsoever.
* “You might still see crosses that tell our past. They are an integrated part of our history and patrimony and should be considered as such.”
Wow! The implication is that the folks of Herouxville do not consider themselves to be Christians. That’s pretty cool!
Is it reasonable for communities/nations to expect their newest members (i.e., immigrants) to adapt and integrate?
To the extent that we accept the idea that nations have the right to restrict movement of persons across their borders, then it is reasonable that they may choose to impose restrictions and/or guidelines upon those whom they allow to enter, and particularly upon those whom intend to stay.
In this case, it is a community, rather than a nation, making such a statement. Is that significantly different?
Yes and No.
“We” generally believe in freedom of movement within national boundaries. Because this document originates from a small community, rather than a nation, we may suspect, on some level, that this is an attempt to limit such freedom of movement — akin to the explicitly racist “white citizens councils” of the past.
However, this document has no legal authority — it is merely a “declaration.”
It does not attempt to exclude anyone. In fact, it expressly welcomes and invites persons “without regard to race or to the color of skin, mother tongue spoken, sexual orientation, religion, or any other form of beliefs.”
But it does make clear that there are certain things that regularly happen in this community — as well as things that are not tolerated — which potential newcomers should be prepared for, and not shocked by, and more or less willing to go along with.
It spells out some of the social norms and values of the community.This does not seem unreasonable to me.
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OFF-TOPIC
Sorry to maintain this unrelated side-topic, but…
Raising kids on a vegan diet is quite safe and healthy.
http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/welcome/treatmentguides/veganchildren.html
I think some of you might want to question where you got those strange “beliefs” from.
February 2nd, 2007 at 1:37 am
If a culture allows wife-beating, then no, don’t allow that culture to continue. Anywhere. I’m glad people are starting to get it.
Freedom does not mean my neighbor can get a free pass on insane behavior.
Wife beating, denying science to the intellectual stunting of their children, preventing others from creating art, etc…
Should we just allow those people (who come to a new country to better themselves) to continue committing the same mistakes? Not in my neighborhood.
If they pull that “women should always obey men, and i can smack them around, shit” once, I’m calling the cops. Twice, and we’re having words. Three times and you’re leaving my neighborhood, but your wife is staying and learning how to read.
February 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 am
@fotomatt
I was going let this subject die, but since you brought it up again……
FFS man, Vegan diet and its consequences on Infants and small children is well documented, so when you write: “I think some of you might want to question where you got those strange “beliefs†fromâ€. I’d rather suggest that you check out the all knowing oracle (www.google.com) and find some scientific documentation that vegan diets and infants/small children is a good combination, to back up your claim. The article you pointed to is NOT such an article, Erin Pavlina is not a part of any scientific community. Check out some of the other articles she has written “The Connection Between Psychic Abilities and Being Vegan†is my personal favourite ^^ (this search took me 50 seconds I bet you could have done it yourself).
I don’t claim that its impossible to feed an infant only on a vegan diet, but I say that it is stupid and dangerous, and should not be done unsupervised.
@ gasmonso, sorry for turning this into a nutrition debate, but sometimes these sub cultures seems to be driven by the same forces that religion is driven by……
February 2nd, 2007 at 4:54 am
@Alcari, there is not really anything sudden about people moving around, it has always happened. ‘Culture’ has always changed due to new influences. What would the ‘culture’ be in Herouxville without the French colonists?
@gabrielAmerican, is there no wife-beating in the local ‘culture’ in Herouxville? Of course noone should be able to abuse another human being, but that is not about ‘culture’, that’s about laws in my opinion. Of course the same laws applies to all in the same country.
How do you know that they “…come to a new country to better themselves” ? They might be happy with themselves in every way, but just want to move or need to move by any other reason. Who is to say what is “better” except every individual him-/herself except when it comes to abuse of others?
When they say “…the lifestyle that they left behind in their birth country cannot be brought here with them and they would have to adapt…”, they say that new immigrants should not be allowed to talk their language, wear their clothes, pray to whatever they see fit, hang their paintings on their walls, sing their songs… The list can be made very long.
This is exactly the same thing that the Taliban dicators in Afghanistan did.
I think that some parts of the document actually is good, explaining Xmas, explaining why there are no prayers in schools, explaining equal rights and opportunities for all etc. It needs a workover to not restrict peoples own choices and remove claims of superiority (”…You would appreciate this new life style …”) and to do it bit more general. The wording and the language probably needs some work as well, but I’m not native in English so thats not really for me to say.
February 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Well shit; you guys pretty much covered anything I was going to add to the discussion.
J’ai habit sur la vie de Quebec pour deux anne, avec mon ex-blonde. And I gotta say, the amount of Racism and Segregation that goes on in that Province is astounding.
For those of you unfamiliar with the news from up North, Quebec has voted a few times now to become their own country. The “Segregation” (Block) movement believes the Canadian government is ruining their culture and language. (And for good reason; we treated them like second-class citizens during the 70’s) To the extreme that they even DENIED government money, for scholarships a few years back. Saying that “Their children could not be bought by a cheap red rag” (i.e. the Canadian flag)
That said, everyone from Quebec is uber hot; like above and beyond normal-good-looking. (It’s like a mini France in our backyards) Gasmonso: A little heavy on the Muslim bashing lately eh? Wouldn’t want to give them more of a reason to focus on you, would you?
I say it’s high time for a good ol’ Christian lynching!
February 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pm
@Shaze,
I’m just reporting the stories as I find’em. Sure there has been a large number of Muslim stories lately, but there are still over twice as many stories about Christianity :)
gasmonso
February 2nd, 2007 at 5:29 pm
What about the UN declaration of human rights? It covers a lot without getting finger-waggy at people.
February 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pm
@ Elijah
Yes, the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights would be a fine place to start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Declaration_of_Universal_Human_Rights
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@ NewOne
Maybe this will split the difference between our positions? You’re right that the author of that last article I offered was pretty silly. My apologies. Perhaps you’ll have more respect for this position paper of the American Dietetic Association.
“Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence…. Dietetics professionals have a responsibility to support and encourage those who express an interest in consuming a vegetarian diet.”
– Journal of the American Dietetic Association, volume 103, issue 6, Pages 748-765 (June 2003)
http://www.adajournal.org/article/PIIS0002822303002943/abstract
Is that a compromise we can both live with?
Not stupid. Not dangerous. But easier with professional assistance.
And yes, you really should question your assumptions. Just because you can google a bunch of (possibly true) anecdotes about vegan parents who malnourished their kids does NOT therefore mean that a vegan diet is “stupid and dangerous” for children.
Are there vegan parents who malnourish their kids? Sure. But the overwhelming majority of parents who malnourish their kids are omnivores. Why not castigate them?
People often fear what they don’t understand. They stick to tradition, assuming it is safe and right.
I mean, really, why would you assume children “need” to drink the milk of cows? In many parts of the world, they simply don’t. And those kids somehow survive… and grow up to win Nobel prizes. And prior to the Agricultural Revolution and/or animal husbandry, humans as a species did not consume the milk of other animals. Yet, somehow we evolved and thrived.
As for meat, well, come on… there are many millions of meat-free children all over the world… growing and thriving, winning awards, etc.
You’re simply looking to isolated anecdotal scare stories that tend to reinforce your preconceived notions of a “proper” human diet.
February 3rd, 2007 at 8:35 am
Bah, animal-loving idiots that do not want to eat meat are ok; they can understand that we need some nutrients that are simply not found in sufficient quantities in a vegan diet.
Those that err on the wrong side are the purist: no eggs, no milk, no nothing from or contact with animals. Most stories I saw about badly-ending vegans are about refusing B12 injection or such supplement to their diet.
You know it’s like faith in religious people: ‘It should be that way.’
But in reality, merely wishing something is true doesn’t make it so. Therefore, vegan diet is really a fine idea, just not one in par with reality.
Et au sujet de Québec…
We recently saw much immigration in Quebec and sadly, within those close-knit communities, it is frequent that they do not even speak French, or even English, instead speaking only their native language, never adapting. The main argument I hear from Quebequers is: ‘If I go to afghan, and am a woman, I will be shot if I do not cover myself with their rags. Why should they, when coming here not at least conform a bit to MY culture?’. And of course, in our culture, speaking french is the norm, not having knife, even ritual is also the norm, in court defending our wife-beating with ‘it’s ma culture and religion!’ is also not the norm…
Anyway, 50 years back, Quebec was white, french, low-paid work, christian and almost no university learnings. Now, we are some kind of blazon of acceptance, overrun with immigrants and with a severe atheistic tendency. See the problem?
February 9th, 2007 at 9:17 pm
@fotomatt
Earlier you criticized the declaration of Herouxville but you got to tell yourself it was first written in french, Remember that the town’s population stands near to the thousand inhabitants and remember that there are probably only ten of them that do speak in english to translate it.
February 9th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
I would like to add that the highlights that the author of this article gave us is partly false since in the original french version which can be found at http://municipalite.herouxville.qc.ca/,there are certain sentences that are different.
i.e. It does not repeat over and over again ‘don’t be surprised this is normal for us. ‘ which i think makes it look badly written. It only says it once.
February 9th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
* this is the good link http://municipalite.herouxville.qc.ca/
February 11th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
I see nothing wrong with this declaration.
I believe the reason most immigrants are here is because they were searching for a better life than what they had in thier country of birth. I find it interesting that many of them try to change this country to make it more like the one they left behind. An example of this is the muslim community trying to bring Sharia Law into this country.
My question is this. If it was so great in their country why did they leave in the first place?
I applaud this town for having the guts to stand up for our way of life. If you are going to immigrate to Canada you can enjoy the rights and freedoms offered, but you should be embracing Canadian culture instead of trying to change it.
February 12th, 2007 at 12:18 am
I see absolutely nothing wrong with the declaration. It is time immigrants accept our laws and customs rather than try to impose their’s on us. If they have a problem with that then I suggest they go back to where ever they came from.
February 12th, 2007 at 11:57 am
This is the most ridiculous and ignorent thing I have ever read in my life. Is this Herouxville in a different planet? However, coming from people of french ancestry
I am not that surprised after all.
February 13th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
WE SOULD SHIP ALL MUSLIM BACK TO THERE COUNTRIE IM CANADIAN AND THIS IS MY COUNTRIE AND SOULD NEVER HAVE TO CHANGE MY HABIT FOR IMIGRANT IM HAPPY THERE TALKING HE SOULD GO ON PARLEMENT AND TELL THIS GOUVERMENT TO STOP BRING IN I HAVE 22000 PEPOLE TO GO ON PARLEMENT AND WE NEED QUEBEC TO SUPPORT US NO IMAGRANT IT ARE WAI OF LIFE IF THERE NOT HAPPY GET OUT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
February 13th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
All in favor of banning Marios from this website say aye.
gasmonso
February 13th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Aye, but before we do, we should let him know that the “Caps Lock” key is to the left of the ‘A’ key.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
HE SOULD BAN YOU FROM THIS COUNTRIE GO LIVE IN THE DESSERT HER YOU BELONG THIS COUNTRIE WILL NEVER EXEPT YOU WAR IS COMING……………….
February 13th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
LOL. Mario, you are straight up cuckoo for Coco Puffs man. Take it easy and stop being so angry. Life is good, enjoy it.
February 13th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
I once knew a girl who liked logging in to dating networks as a guy and behaving like a chauvinistic jerk, laughing about the people who angrily responded to her words.
Her pseudonym was… Mario.
Truth.
February 14th, 2007 at 9:34 am
As long as Mario speaks in a language we can understand and actually reads what people write, I say Nay(for now at least)
PS: Time to implement a filter “if more than 50% of your post is capitals it will all be posted as small letters”?
March 20th, 2007 at 11:36 pm
It is obvious that this, so called “standars” are not addressing muslim minorities or has any intention to teach them the standards in Herouxville,Quebeck. It was written in a very sarcastic way in order to belittle followers of Islam. I am very surprised to see that “Publication of Standards”. Very unprofessional, emotional, impetuously written. It is very unfortunate to see those ignorant bashings of a religion especially in the hands of a government branch. We need peaceful and responsible people who know what they are doing in those government branches especially times like these.
October 18th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Interesting to see how many of these ‘traits’ could also be aimed at hasidic jews… i seem to remember them having extremely restrictive rules being applied to what the females were allowed to do.
October 24th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
I am so proud of the people of Herouxville! FINALLY! Someone is standing up to the immigrants, who leave their countries and then try to change ours! THREE CHEERS!
October 24th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
I agree that the charter has to be changed.It is ruining our country. Any minority can use this to claim discrimination and some have.It,s not just muslims but sikhs with religious daggers,headware,voting for criminals.etc.It seems we can,t have christmas trees or greeting for fear of insulting other peoples.Some wanted sharia law in Ontario.Where does it end.If it so intolerant here in Canada please leave and find a better place to live.If not adapt to our country and enjoy what you have here.I can imagine what would happen if a person went to a middle eastern country and began complaining the culture and trying to change the laws and customs.
e ezaki
September 7th, 2008 at 2:22 am
the real problem is that there been too much problem in québec. and some people is starting to act like extremist. look, before french in québec where low-paid worker because they where french, when they where near an english and the french was speacking french, the english one whould say SPEAK WHITE like if english where the white language and french a fuking shity one. english where trying to get the french out of there and get it english or to convert us to english. they didnt liked us, they wherent nice to us because we where french and even today there is some like that. the religion, christamist, where at end pain in the ass, they where, going into people house asking «how much kids do u have, WHAT 15 IS NOT ENOUGHT CREATE MORE OR GOD WILL PUNISH U» so the low-paid worker need to have more kids and in those year it was hard, winter where hard, there werent such technologie to keep then hot during winter, more kids = less money religion where everywhere hospital politic school, doing their law, that why québec people stopped trusting religion.
now the english is less dumb than they where before but what they did stayed there,and some of them is acting like their ancestor, that why a lot of québec dislike english, just look what number 32 said at end «However, coming from people of french ancestry I am not that surprised after all.» and that why we are going to dislike english for a lot of time, i dont know where, i think its in Alberta, they use the SPEAK WHITE thing to us. that why some people people whant québec independence and dislike english, they know we cant live with the rest of canada,but most people in quebec is BLIND and unless canada do another stupid thing(they will but the question is when)québec people will not try to get the independence.
that why there is people that dislike english
there is a certain religion where they NEED to have a KNIFE with them, kids too. they need to keep it. but in school, people CANT BRING knife. these people started to get angry and ask the right to brg the knife. they GOT IT. now in quebec these people can brg sharpened knife ( if u didnt know sharpened knife can kill and they are in hand of kids) in school and they keep it with them. knife is as dangerous as a gun, they can both KILL. they dont put it somewhere, they keep it all day long. there is some people that try to change our law so they can do stuff they do in THEIR country to do it in OUR country. here another exemple. in a religions, they have something special where they cant work so they asked (i duno if they are still asking) that when they are in those religious week they dont work, that mean they have more dayoff, vacation or wathever u call that (im not english) than anyone else, if u have 2 week vacation, they have 3 or 4. is that right? no it not. should we accept that? i dont think. but some of quebec government is only there to please them, to say yes.
we are starting to lose faith in our government( when 65,% and maybe more, people dont care anymore about government and do go voting to chose the new goverment, it realy because we have lost faith in them, they are all dumbass!!) and some people is starting to to dislike the people who come in québec. they even tryed to get a big christmas tree out of a city because they where telling that it was bad for their religions and it was disturbing them. that was stupid…
some of them dont want to learn french and want to stay in québec. if u stay in québec u MUST LEARN FRENCH. its a wait to protect french language in québec, it a law and it is only purpose. but like i said some of them dont want to learn french, they want just learn english, but they stay in québec, wtf, there is 10 province and 3 teritory and they cant *&?%$ move. (btw there is some of them that dont want to learn english too)
québec people is starting to get realy realy angry, so, some of them come in quebec and:
-try to change law so they can do stuff they do in their country to do it also in quebec, like kids can brg the religious knife in school and keep it with them (adult can too brg it too)
- some of them go in québec but dont want to speak french (or even english)
and dislike english because:
- all they did in the past
- some of the today english people is almost like those in the past
too much is too much, i have my limit some have bigger limit than me and some less
they arent all like that, im not dumb, but some is like that and those are trying to change law, and when a law change it not some but EVERYBODY that do it after. im not just speaking about muslin but ALL religion.
if some of those religious people go in ur country and is starting to change law so thet can brg those knife and do whatever they want how would you react?
NOW LETS SPEAK ABOUT THE MAIN TOPIC: HÉROUVILLE
it the only city like that, its is small they are mostly retard and we québequois where also amazed by their stupidity and how racist they are. hérouville is not québec, it a lost, tiny, city. when we heard their law we were almost laughing at them it went everywhere in québec because the t.v, newpaper where speaking about it and a lot of people where asking to them « wtf your are doing?»
well now hérouville have some kind of reputation, bad one. even R.B.O who are doing comedy stuff and is well known in québec did something on their city, bring it down lol.
if ur french here the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLgb7RUiOfY
so yes there some kind of rasist in québec, not like if we would tell GET THE FUCK OUT OF QUÉBEC but SOME, AND I SAID SOME (important!!) people dont trust them, afraid they transform québec into something else and hérouville is a special thing, like if they where all afraid people. i can tell that there is much more québec people that dislike english canadian than ethnic people. so it not the big deal,they dont all beat their women, black dont all have big dick, québec people arent all atheist, but most of them are because christianist over-used their power
fact: québec is not a mini France, we are not same we use a language a little different wich they call it ”bad french” we use word that they dont use and we use contraction form like: i am -> i’m, it just that in the real french there is no contraction ;) listen a french france and a french canadian speak u will see that it dont sound same too, and sometime we can even have some dificult to understand each other and we dont have the same mentality.