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	<description>Have faith in yourself</description>
	<pubDate>Thu,  4 Dec 2008 06:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OMG</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-229595</link>
		<dc:creator>OMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen, I run into "Christian" fruitcakes like this doctor all of the time. A long time ago, these people were found mainly in the southern states. However, fundamentalists have been building and growing for the past twenty years big time while the rest of us weren't paying attention. Today's brand of "Christianity" is peculiar to America and to this decade. It has more to do with politics than anything else. Again, as fundamentalist "Christianity" evolves (no pun intended) into something more and more evil, I routinely meet assholes who act like this doctor. These people have no clue, and are making this shit up as they go. No wonder Richard Dawkins calls it a "mind virus". The first thing Christianity does to a person is to remove their ability to reason. As for no.4: You disagree...why? Because someone told you that you HAVE to believe? LOL. No. 11: Christianity may not support this doctor's behavior as far as you know, but if more and more Christians are acting this way, then de facto, it is Christianity, or it will be known as Christianity. Nearly every person that I meet these days who claims to be Christian is an embarrassment. They are uninformed and not very intelligent. You could be standing inside of a burning house and yell, "Fire! Get out!" and the Christians would just stand there until some idiot that they knew was a fundamentalist preacher told them to get out. This is just plain stupid. These people won't believe the truth, but will believe a fairy tale. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen, I run into &#8220;Christian&#8221; fruitcakes like this doctor all of the time. A long time ago, these people were found mainly in the southern states. However, fundamentalists have been building and growing for the past twenty years big time while the rest of us weren&#8217;t paying attention. Today&#8217;s brand of &#8220;Christianity&#8221; is peculiar to America and to this decade. It has more to do with politics than anything else. Again, as fundamentalist &#8220;Christianity&#8221; evolves (no pun intended) into something more and more evil, I routinely meet assholes who act like this doctor. These people have no clue, and are making this shit up as they go. No wonder Richard Dawkins calls it a &#8220;mind virus&#8221;. The first thing Christianity does to a person is to remove their ability to reason. As for no.4: You disagree&#8230;why? Because someone told you that you HAVE to believe? LOL. No. 11: Christianity may not support this doctor&#8217;s behavior as far as you know, but if more and more Christians are acting this way, then de facto, it is Christianity, or it will be known as Christianity. Nearly every person that I meet these days who claims to be Christian is an embarrassment. They are uninformed and not very intelligent. You could be standing inside of a burning house and yell, &#8220;Fire! Get out!&#8221; and the Christians would just stand there until some idiot that they knew was a fundamentalist preacher told them to get out. This is just plain stupid. These people won&#8217;t believe the truth, but will believe a fairy tale. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Korgan</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-210883</link>
		<dc:creator>Korgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bisso, regarding your post 44,

No, "We" do not choose your fictitious god and the ridiculous  tenets of your religion with all their contradictions, demonstrable errors, and unreason. &lt;b&gt;You&lt;/b&gt; make that choice for yourself, but it is a foolish choice. An omnipotent, omnibenevolent god has no reason to need its offspring to die nor its creations to suffer, nor would it need a book to get its message through. Furthermore, "love" is plainly incompatible with the obvious violence and discrimination of any version of the Christian bible. Christianity is a farce, and &lt;i&gt;Religion is ridiculous&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bisso, regarding your post 44,</p>
<p>No, &#8220;We&#8221; do not choose your fictitious god and the ridiculous  tenets of your religion with all their contradictions, demonstrable errors, and unreason. <b>You</b> make that choice for yourself, but it is a foolish choice. An omnipotent, omnibenevolent god has no reason to need its offspring to die nor its creations to suffer, nor would it need a book to get its message through. Furthermore, &#8220;love&#8221; is plainly incompatible with the obvious violence and discrimination of any version of the Christian bible. Christianity is a farce, and <i>Religion is ridiculous</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: bisso</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-209832</link>
		<dc:creator>bisso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skid, replying to your last post,

We are all chosen, that is why christ died for all, not just you and me, all.
 We choose him because he chose us ALL first. Not all of us choose christ as a saviour, some dont see the need for a saviour or a God.
 A God of Love will save the dirt bag just as easily as the bible believing christian, you think a God of Love would be so discriminating. All that choose God get the same Redemtive Love, the same Saviour no matter their circumstance or their histroy. That goes for Homosexuals and any other group Christians Voice out against. Christ Loves the homosexual but hates the sin. He hates my sin, he died for it, he loves me, i couldnt work my way to salvation, Jesus Christ, My God had to come to this earth and die in my place. That my brother is real Love.
thats my rant
all things considered though, it comes down to one fundamental question...is there a God? if there is, im right, if im wrong im full of shit and truth is relative...  
ps the doctor is an asshole</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skid, replying to your last post,</p>
<p>We are all chosen, that is why christ died for all, not just you and me, all.<br />
 We choose him because he chose us ALL first. Not all of us choose christ as a saviour, some dont see the need for a saviour or a God.<br />
 A God of Love will save the dirt bag just as easily as the bible believing christian, you think a God of Love would be so discriminating. All that choose God get the same Redemtive Love, the same Saviour no matter their circumstance or their histroy. That goes for Homosexuals and any other group Christians Voice out against. Christ Loves the homosexual but hates the sin. He hates my sin, he died for it, he loves me, i couldnt work my way to salvation, Jesus Christ, My God had to come to this earth and die in my place. That my brother is real Love.<br />
thats my rant<br />
all things considered though, it comes down to one fundamental question&#8230;is there a God? if there is, im right, if im wrong im full of shit and truth is relative&#8230;<br />
ps the doctor is an asshole</p>
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		<title>By: Skids</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-38800</link>
		<dc:creator>Skids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew: 'Trust me dude, Jesus is alive...'
 Andrew, your letter seems sincere and maybe you've gone through a program or had an "epiphany" that you now attribute your change of lifestyle to being a "true" christian. That's great in that you're probably not killing yourself. I respect that and your right to your opinion....
 But honestly Jesus if he ever existed is well and truly dead. He was after all a man. There is no god. There is no need for god.
 Second, I really dislike the way people attribute events in their life to god, it seems very arrogant, that you were chosen. Why not all the other poor people out there? That is one of the cruelest things about religion, supposedly people who haven't heard about jesus/god/allah, much less worship him will get eternally punished! And why is it this great saviour   saves some, but dirtbags equally devout others? Is it because he is so cruel he enjoys toying with people? If there is a god and he listens to some prayers and intervenes and not others he is unfathomably cruel.
 Question your beliefs man, if you've read the bible you know it says that god slaughtered anybody who wasn't born in the right tribe and heaps more cruel stuff. That is not a god basis for morality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew: &#8216;Trust me dude, Jesus is alive&#8230;&#8217;<br />
 Andrew, your letter seems sincere and maybe you&#8217;ve gone through a program or had an &#8220;epiphany&#8221; that you now attribute your change of lifestyle to being a &#8220;true&#8221; christian. That&#8217;s great in that you&#8217;re probably not killing yourself. I respect that and your right to your opinion&#8230;.<br />
 But honestly Jesus if he ever existed is well and truly dead. He was after all a man. There is no god. There is no need for god.<br />
 Second, I really dislike the way people attribute events in their life to god, it seems very arrogant, that you were chosen. Why not all the other poor people out there? That is one of the cruelest things about religion, supposedly people who haven&#8217;t heard about jesus/god/allah, much less worship him will get eternally punished! And why is it this great saviour   saves some, but dirtbags equally devout others? Is it because he is so cruel he enjoys toying with people? If there is a god and he listens to some prayers and intervenes and not others he is unfathomably cruel.<br />
 Question your beliefs man, if you&#8217;ve read the bible you know it says that god slaughtered anybody who wasn&#8217;t born in the right tribe and heaps more cruel stuff. That is not a god basis for morality.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-38798</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well what can I say, I am a christian with Tattoo's which I got after becoming a Christian.  There are many people who profess to be Christians, however they are just like the religous fools in Jesus time who knew the bible but not God.

Gasmonso don't tar all Christians with the same brush just because of a few bad ones.  Anyway Jesus is perfect Christians are NOT perfect and they shouldn't claim to be.  I am a sinner saved by grace, God gave his son for free.  The only difference between a Christian and a non Christian is the fact the Christian REPENTS and tries (and I mean tries) to live a Christ like life.  This doctor is an idiot, he wrongly judged that woman and without knowing it has negatively effected a lot more than one person....

Are you really prepared to let a handfull of people claiming to be Christians rob you of a relationship with God?  Should you not find God for yourself and judge him accurately rather than 3rd hand?

I was a junkie and an alchoholic, God set me free.  I have a tattoo of a cross with the word Tetelestai written below it.  This is greek for "It is finished" or "Paid in full" my sins have been paid for and they are mine no more.  I am currently looking at getting a full back peice and my searching for pictures has brought me here.  I am going to get Christ riding his white stallion with a second coming theme....

Trust me dude, Jesus is alive and there are millions of his children out there who would welcome any sinner from any background with open arms...Hookers, Junkies, Alchoholics you name it..The Church is and should be a place of forgiveness and refuge for all walks of life...I know Churches who wont let you in if your not dressed smart enough or a woman isn't wearing a hat....God will judge those people don't worry...Jesus was the sinners friend, thank God because if he wasn't He would never have found me (I used to sin a lot)

Anyway - May God bless you all and may you discover and accept his perfect love.

Peace,
Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well what can I say, I am a christian with Tattoo&#8217;s which I got after becoming a Christian.  There are many people who profess to be Christians, however they are just like the religous fools in Jesus time who knew the bible but not God.</p>
<p>Gasmonso don&#8217;t tar all Christians with the same brush just because of a few bad ones.  Anyway Jesus is perfect Christians are NOT perfect and they shouldn&#8217;t claim to be.  I am a sinner saved by grace, God gave his son for free.  The only difference between a Christian and a non Christian is the fact the Christian REPENTS and tries (and I mean tries) to live a Christ like life.  This doctor is an idiot, he wrongly judged that woman and without knowing it has negatively effected a lot more than one person&#8230;.</p>
<p>Are you really prepared to let a handfull of people claiming to be Christians rob you of a relationship with God?  Should you not find God for yourself and judge him accurately rather than 3rd hand?</p>
<p>I was a junkie and an alchoholic, God set me free.  I have a tattoo of a cross with the word Tetelestai written below it.  This is greek for &#8220;It is finished&#8221; or &#8220;Paid in full&#8221; my sins have been paid for and they are mine no more.  I am currently looking at getting a full back peice and my searching for pictures has brought me here.  I am going to get Christ riding his white stallion with a second coming theme&#8230;.</p>
<p>Trust me dude, Jesus is alive and there are millions of his children out there who would welcome any sinner from any background with open arms&#8230;Hookers, Junkies, Alchoholics you name it..The Church is and should be a place of forgiveness and refuge for all walks of life&#8230;I know Churches who wont let you in if your not dressed smart enough or a woman isn&#8217;t wearing a hat&#8230;.God will judge those people don&#8217;t worry&#8230;Jesus was the sinners friend, thank God because if he wasn&#8217;t He would never have found me (I used to sin a lot)</p>
<p>Anyway - May God bless you all and may you discover and accept his perfect love.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-38189</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple of thoughts..

Bouncing off of post #30: many healthcare workers and pharmacists refuse to prescribe or fill prescriptions for emergency contraception, even if it is not an actual abortifacient. Many EC drugs used today only prevent pregnancy. They don't end one if conception has already occurred. It's actually a big problem in private (often Catholic) hospitals - rape victims are much less likely to be offered EC even if they want it.

Also, a couple months ago I read an article (can't find it now, but I'll keep looking) about how some patients going to religious physicians had to go elsewhere, at their personal expense, because their physician wasn't willing to deal with certain medical issues (dispensing contraceptives, family planning, etc). Most of the time, the women didn't know their physicians' personal stance on the issue until they were told they couldn't get what they needed. 

I'm starting medical school in the fall, and I find it pretty disturbing that a physician would deny service based on an arbitrary set of beliefs about who is worthy of medical care. If it was a Muslim/Hindu/atheist/etc doctor denying care because the parent wore a cross necklace or something, the community would be up in arms....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of thoughts..</p>
<p>Bouncing off of post #30: many healthcare workers and pharmacists refuse to prescribe or fill prescriptions for emergency contraception, even if it is not an actual abortifacient. Many EC drugs used today only prevent pregnancy. They don&#8217;t end one if conception has already occurred. It&#8217;s actually a big problem in private (often Catholic) hospitals - rape victims are much less likely to be offered EC even if they want it.</p>
<p>Also, a couple months ago I read an article (can&#8217;t find it now, but I&#8217;ll keep looking) about how some patients going to religious physicians had to go elsewhere, at their personal expense, because their physician wasn&#8217;t willing to deal with certain medical issues (dispensing contraceptives, family planning, etc). Most of the time, the women didn&#8217;t know their physicians&#8217; personal stance on the issue until they were told they couldn&#8217;t get what they needed. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting medical school in the fall, and I find it pretty disturbing that a physician would deny service based on an arbitrary set of beliefs about who is worthy of medical care. If it was a Muslim/Hindu/atheist/etc doctor denying care because the parent wore a cross necklace or something, the community would be up in arms&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was recently shown a very well written and coherant article discussing tattoos and "Christianity".

Here is a link to it.

http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20031102.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently shown a very well written and coherant article discussing tattoos and &#8220;Christianity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Here is a link to it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20031102.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20031102.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Snurp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snurp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two-tier system makes sense when you read it.  The cheap stuff that many people are still unable to afford can be taken care of.  Of course, that means larger surgeries and the like won't be covered, but to do so would cause a serious raise in taxes.  If you decided instead of funding the low-level stuff to focus on high-level first, you would still have the problem of expense.  "Socialized medicine" is the new Satan these days, it seems.  I think the problem people have with it is more just the socialist look it has more than anything else.  And of course, to keep it lightly on topic, any procedures still remaining in the private sphere will still be controlled by the doctor, even if a public healthcare bill passed.  But then again, surgeries expensive enough to fall outside of a public healthcare plan probably wouldn't be covered by many private practices, but would instead mostly be covered by larger hospitals who will pay more attention to a bottom line than what one doctor says about tattoos.  So, at least for low-level stuff, perhaps a public program would help in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two-tier system makes sense when you read it.  The cheap stuff that many people are still unable to afford can be taken care of.  Of course, that means larger surgeries and the like won&#8217;t be covered, but to do so would cause a serious raise in taxes.  If you decided instead of funding the low-level stuff to focus on high-level first, you would still have the problem of expense.  &#8220;Socialized medicine&#8221; is the new Satan these days, it seems.  I think the problem people have with it is more just the socialist look it has more than anything else.  And of course, to keep it lightly on topic, any procedures still remaining in the private sphere will still be controlled by the doctor, even if a public healthcare bill passed.  But then again, surgeries expensive enough to fall outside of a public healthcare plan probably wouldn&#8217;t be covered by many private practices, but would instead mostly be covered by larger hospitals who will pay more attention to a bottom line than what one doctor says about tattoos.  So, at least for low-level stuff, perhaps a public program would help in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-37194</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a forum where I have set up a topic to debate abortion if you guys want to take it there to has it out. when we have finished we can decide on the best answers and send it back here to be posted as an article.

Link: http://www.sjbond.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?p=98#98

I wouldn't mind waying in on this one myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a forum where I have set up a topic to debate abortion if you guys want to take it there to has it out. when we have finished we can decide on the best answers and send it back here to be posted as an article.</p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://www.sjbond.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?p=98#98" rel="nofollow">http://www.sjbond.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?p=98#98</a></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind waying in on this one myself.</p>
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		<title>By: sidfaiwu</title>
		<link>http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/01/christian-doctor-discriminates-openly-and-proudly/#comment-37153</link>
		<dc:creator>sidfaiwu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Further, if we want to have just a limited amount of things covered (if thatâ€™s what you meant by â€œbasic healthcareâ€) then weâ€™ll need to define â€œbasic.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again, we agree.  I know that I don't have a good definition for 'basic', but I know it would include general practitioners and family doctors, like the asshole doctor from this article.  But since he is private and relies totally on private funds, he can refuse treatment to anyone.

Here I'll join you briefly, off-topic.  Clearly, public healthcare should not cover every procedure because of cost.  I believe that extremely high-priced treatments/procedures and optional treatments/procedures should remain private and available to anyone who can afford them.  I know this would lead to the dreaded two-tier system that so many Canadians hate the idea of, but I believe it to be inevitable if we want to maintain fast-paced medical advancement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Further, if we want to have just a limited amount of things covered (if thatâ€™s what you meant by â€œbasic healthcareâ€) then weâ€™ll need to define â€œbasic.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, we agree.  I know that I don&#8217;t have a good definition for &#8216;basic&#8217;, but I know it would include general practitioners and family doctors, like the asshole doctor from this article.  But since he is private and relies totally on private funds, he can refuse treatment to anyone.</p>
<p>Here I&#8217;ll join you briefly, off-topic.  Clearly, public healthcare should not cover every procedure because of cost.  I believe that extremely high-priced treatments/procedures and optional treatments/procedures should remain private and available to anyone who can afford them.  I know this would lead to the dreaded two-tier system that so many Canadians hate the idea of, but I believe it to be inevitable if we want to maintain fast-paced medical advancement.</p>
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