Comments on: George Carlin’s Take On Religion

By: Mr. Joe

Mr. Joe — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:50:17 +0000

RIP George. You will be missed. I’m so glad I got to see him back in January a few months before he died.

Check out georgecarlin.com and go past the intro and read a section of his will. He wanted a total secular event following his death. I’m sure he got it. I found it completely interesting.

By: John

John — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:52:37 +0000

Sorry BC, for flippantly characterizing your post. You are explaining that certain parts of the Bible are mythical, and I don’t disagree. Such as the virgin birth in Bethlehem, definitely a story designed to raise Jesus up to God-hood and claim his lineage back to Abraham, or whomever. The December 25th date was set by Constantine, FYI, not in the Bible. But that’s not important to me.

My reference to “Kings” was a challenge to the question of what is historical proof. There are many historical figures that are not questioned, but we only know they existed because a bunch of people wrote about them. I’m willing to accept the conclusions of historians (many non-Christian) who accept that the non-miraculuos parts of the story happened, with some degree of error due to oral tradition, etc.

We now know a lot more about what is above the clouds, and how the earth rotates on a tilted axis creating the “ages” you speak of. It is our job to accept that people who wrote these stories didn’t know these things, and try to understand what it was they were dealing with. Seems to me it was someone pretty special, someone worth discussing.

Thomas Jefferson literally separated the myth from the (possibly) factual story, by rewriting the gospels without the miracles and angels and junk, http://books.google.com/books?id=kBZUJvBwZB8C&dq=thomas+jefferson+bible&pg=PP1&ots=n15FMXyFkK&sig=0WToF7×8UbumYIxt27VH90QNono&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA92,M1

By: MarcDLS

MarcDLS — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:47:36 +0000

I am reminded of a study in which scientists filled a tank with what they believed were the conditions of pre-life Earth and set to applying sparks (i.e. lightning). What do ya know, they were able to form the basic building blocks of life (i.e. DNA). Given enough time the DNA would become more abundant, mix together, mutant, and finally form cells. Problem is, we don’t have long enough life spans to prove that. But we have proven that microbes do evolve since we can witness hundreds of their generations, and that pre-life Earth could have spontaneously formed DNA.

By: BC Campbell

BC Campbell — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:45:10 +0000

John,

It’s not Numerology, every character is a myth, they never existed. They weren’t kings, they were gods, worshiped in the past by what we call the ancients.

Let me explain. Sirius is the East Star, the 3 Kings are Orion’s Belt, birth of “God’s Sun” is on the Winter’s Solstice, Dec. 25th, virgin Mary is Virgo, Bethlehem’s meaning is house of bread, Dec. 22, 23 and 24th symbolizes death to the ancients. Meaning that the sun seems to stop moving south for 3 days and it dwells in the vicinity of the Southern Cross constellation ( Crux ) before it begins to rise again on the 25th of Dec., that’s where the resurrection also comes in.

Also let me point out the Miracle Birth (born of a virgin) was 15 centuries before Christianity. Jesus is in the age of Pisces, symbol of the 2 fish, note that he always fed the people with 2 fish. The coming of age according to the Bible is a man bearing water, Aquarius will be the next New Age, we are still in the age of Pisces.

There is more to this than what I have written here, but the basis of the Bible was purely astrological, no factual evidence, just the readings from the night sky above our heads, the sun and moon, and the changing of the seasons.

Have a nice day,

By: BC Campbell

BC Campbell — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:03:04 +0000

Jayman,

Who said I was religious? Get a grip!!!

As far as watching evolution in a dish, ask yourself this question, where did the scientists get the single cell to study? Anything they study already is, they can’t make cells, and if they did, we would have to assume they are creators.

Our planet has been destroyed how many times? Life that existed upon it was also destroyed during those times. So stating we have been evolving for billions of years is a false statement.

The Bible is a book of fables, religions are BS and there has been documented proof of scientists making claims of discoveries that have proved false.

Believe what you want, doesn’t make a difference to me, but please, in the future, get your facts straight.

By: Korgan

Korgan — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:42:57 +0000

Jayman,

Thanks for post 90. I was about to post similar and you saved me the trouble.

And now, re religious boats that don’t float, to me, it’s kind of funny to put your “ark” comment together with the “Titanics” of post 81. :-)

Cheers,
Korgan

Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.

By: Jayman

Jayman — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:37:01 +0000

BC - its not about ‘believing’ in evolution - its just that there is an abundance of evidence to suggest that is exactly what has happened. Its fair to say the chances of evolving from single celled life forms to human beings over 3,800,000,000 years are higher than say noah being able to put 2 of every animal on board the ark wouldnt you say?

And evolution has been witnessed and documented in progress many times - at a microbial level.

By: John

John — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:31:14 +0000

Hey BC,
Nice numerology there. Correct, there is no proof of Jesus. Obviously no proof of angels declaring his arrival etc. But what is historical proof? How do we know any of the great Kings existed? Where’s the video? We don’t have that, but we do have writing. Paper was invented right around Jesus’ time, so plenty of non-religious scholars accept that he was a real guy. None of them believe in the whole Bethlehem thing, but that’s a story, designed to interest people, and have them believe Jesus is part of this line going back to Abraham. I don’t care about that, because I’m not a Jew living in the first century. I do care about the messages contained in the parables, they are still good, and I don’t want to see them discarded because we can’t separate a story from it’s message.

George is right to challenge the dogma that God is up in the sky and could intervene at any moment. Notice that he never says, “and that love your neighbor crap, what a bunch a bull”. Check out his history, he went to a Catholic school with a bunch of liberal Nuns who were experimenting with an open system, one where the kids were allowed to question anything.

By: BC Campbell

BC Campbell — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:16:25 +0000

I thought I would share this with you people, just so you know a few facts. This is not saying I don’t believe in a God, or a Supreme Being, I do. I don’t believe in evolution only for the reason it’s just hard to believe we all came about from a single cell, yeah right!! Plus, that hasn’t been proven either, go figure?

What do these names all have in common?

Horus, Egyptian god, 3000 BC - Attis, Greece, 1200 BC - Krishna, India, 900 BC - Dionysus, Greece, 500 BC - Mithra, Persia, 1200 BC and Jesus Christ.

All were born Dec. 25th, born of a virgin, Star in the East, adored by 3 Kings, teachers at the age of 12, baptized/ministry at 30, 12 disciples, performed miracles, betrayed, crucified, dead for 3 days, resurrected.

Look it up for yourself if you don’t believe me. There is no proof that Jesus ever existed. The Bible is no more than an Astro-theological literary hybrid!!! The Bible is completely astrological. Constantine had the Bible made up in 300 AD to control the people!!! That’s all religion is, a control for people who can’t see, or do for themselves.

Argue all you want about your good book, but it’s a farce, it was and always will be!!!!

George Carlin was not a fool, he could see right through RELIGION!!!!!!

By: MarcDLS

MarcDLS — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:07:23 +0000

One thing about the silly rant about Genesis is that: A) It tell the creation story in two different ways; B) It NEVER says anything about Satan being the snake; C) God supposedly knows the end from the beginning so it seems unjust, and therefore not worthy of devotion, that he would punish man for a decision he KNEW he’d make before he gave him the option to make it. If a person in person in authority (police officer) gives a loaded gun with a hair trigger to a person they have authority over (child) who should be punished when the child kills someone? People really need to READ their bible and actually THINK about what it is saying if they want to make decent arguments for it instead of relying on second hand knowledge and regurgitating propaganda.