Comments on: House Of Onesiphorus Reaches Out http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/ Have faith in yourself Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:38:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Kyle http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-78630 Kyle Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:22:24 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-78630 This is a very good story.It shows what christians should do. Stand by our beliefs without throwing stones. Somtimes Christians with the best of intentions get into mudslinging instead of loving. We need to speak the truth but we must do everything possible to give someone a chance to do the right thing. Jesus was severly beaten and nailed to a cross to give us a chance. This is a very good story.It shows what christians should do. Stand by our beliefs without throwing stones. Somtimes Christians with the best of intentions get into mudslinging instead of loving. We need to speak the truth but we must do everything possible to give someone a chance to do the right thing. Jesus was severly beaten and nailed to a cross to give us a chance.

]]> By: Mercury http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37466 Mercury Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:27:41 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37466 I think outsider hit this one right on, this is generally a good thing. Instead of just taking sides and creating a pro-life vs pro-choice all out war like we're used to, these people have reached a compromise and are trying to ACTUALLY HELP the mothers. Some "by accident" mothers dont feel right getting an abortion, so this is a viable(albeit religiously indoctrinated) way out for them. More centres like this need to be created, not only by christians. If people want to be truly christian they need to love thy neighbor, help the sick and poor, and all that good stuff. I think outsider hit this one right on, this is generally a good thing. Instead of just taking sides and creating a pro-life vs pro-choice all out war like we’re used to, these people have reached a compromise and are trying to ACTUALLY HELP the mothers. Some “by accident” mothers dont feel right getting an abortion, so this is a viable(albeit religiously indoctrinated) way out for them. More centres like this need to be created, not only by christians. If people want to be truly christian they need to love thy neighbor, help the sick and poor, and all that good stuff.

]]> By: Outsider http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37219 Outsider Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:07:29 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37219 Hitler did a lot of things. Just because someone evil does something does not make it evil. Hitler had dinner every day at supper time. Should we all avoid dinner now? What they are doing is a good thing. Watch them, sure, to make sure they're not putting the babies in gas chambers or inculcating them with blind obediance... but if they play by the rules, they're doing a good thing. And just because they're religious people doesn't automatically mean they will do something underhanded. They're human, so it's a possiblity... But not guaranteed, not any more than a non-religious organization doing the same thing. Hitler did a lot of things. Just because someone evil does something does not make it evil. Hitler had dinner every day at supper time. Should we all avoid dinner now?

What they are doing is a good thing. Watch them, sure, to make sure they’re not putting the babies in gas chambers or inculcating them with blind obediance… but if they play by the rules, they’re doing a good thing.

And just because they’re religious people doesn’t automatically mean they will do something underhanded. They’re human, so it’s a possiblity… But not guaranteed, not any more than a non-religious organization doing the same thing.

]]> By: pat http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37165 pat Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:24:20 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37165 Didn't Hitler do something like that in the 30's and 40's but under a similar pretense? This seems more like breeding grounds for Jesus. Didn’t Hitler do something like that in the 30’s and 40’s but under a similar pretense?

This seems more like breeding grounds for Jesus.

]]> By: Alcari http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37041 Alcari Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:12:34 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-37041 Outsider is right on this i think. Sometimes a nice gestures is indeed a nice nice gesture. Outsider is right on this i think. Sometimes a nice gestures is indeed a nice nice gesture.

]]> By: Outsider http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36931 Outsider Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:11:55 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36931 See, that's not the thing at all, as this isn't a prenatal orphanage, but a prenatal adoption service/postnatal care center. It's not about holding on to the kids, but getting them out of their mothers alive. Whomever adopts these kids will be able to choose the life they want to lead with their kids; it's no different than having kids yourself, except you don't have to get pregnant (which is something of a bonus for those that can't). See, that’s not the thing at all, as this isn’t a prenatal orphanage, but a prenatal adoption service/postnatal care center.

It’s not about holding on to the kids, but getting them out of their mothers alive. Whomever adopts these kids will be able to choose the life they want to lead with their kids; it’s no different than having kids yourself, except you don’t have to get pregnant (which is something of a bonus for those that can’t).

]]> By: fmobus http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36919 fmobus Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:31:25 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36919 This is an interesting solution, for it allows teenage-mothers-to-be to respect their religion. The downside is that children grown there will be more easily "forced" into religion, for they won't have friends with different backgrounds. This is an interesting solution, for it allows teenage-mothers-to-be to respect their religion. The downside is that children grown there will be more easily “forced” into religion, for they won’t have friends with different backgrounds.

]]> By: Outsider http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36912 Outsider Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:24:42 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36912 I don't see that, Gilbert. I do see people who are saying "Abortions are murder, and that's bad. How can we stop this without taking freedom of choice from people?" They're not telling you that you cannot abort. They're telling you there's another alternative, even if you wouldn't normally have it. Seems pretty bloody reasonable to me. They're playing by your rules, but you don't trust them... But as long as they play it straight, they're doing a great service, whateer their motivations. I don’t see that, Gilbert. I do see people who are saying “Abortions are murder, and that’s bad. How can we stop this without taking freedom of choice from people?”

They’re not telling you that you cannot abort. They’re telling you there’s another alternative, even if you wouldn’t normally have it.

Seems pretty bloody reasonable to me. They’re playing by your rules, but you don’t trust them… But as long as they play it straight, they’re doing a great service, whateer their motivations.

]]> By: Gilbert Wham http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36888 Gilbert Wham Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:33:50 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36888 Obviously. "Give me the child till he is seven, and I will show you the man". Deeply alarming. AND a reason for government funding to help to be cut. Well, the nice jesus-freaks are already there, are they not? Obviously. “Give me the child till he is seven, and I will show you the man”. Deeply alarming. AND a reason for government funding to help to be cut. Well, the nice jesus-freaks are already there, are they not?

]]> By: Shaze http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36852 Shaze Sun, 04 Mar 2007 07:39:44 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/03/house-of-onesiphorus-reaches-out/#comment-36852 Give it time, the catch here is going to end up being bigger than we all realize. MMmmm camp for pregnant teens.... Give it time, the catch here is going to end up being bigger than we all realize.

MMmmm camp for pregnant teens….

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