Comments on: The Evolution Of Religion http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/ Have faith in yourself Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:10:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: sidfaiwu http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-73568 sidfaiwu Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:58:50 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-73568 Hello Rachael, <b>"Christianity is not a religion"</b> If it's not, please, enlighten us. What is Christianity? Is Judaism a religion? If so, what requires Christianity to be given a different definition? Why is it commonly referred to as a religion? My guess is that you are trying to make <em>your</em> religion 'special' by artificially and unjustifiably excluding it from the category 'religion'. <b>"but when people of Faith speak the truth in which God Almighty gave to us word for word, we are sshhushed!?!"</b> Bullshit. You're preaching here, aren't you? No one is 'shushing' you. Your comment will remain here indefinitely. No one is shutting down churches to silence preachers. No one is taping shut the annoying street preacher who stands on the corner by where I work shouting hell-fire at everyone on their way home from work. <b>"And I am more Happy in a relationship with him than anyone can actually say “they are happy living the way they want to”."</b> Good for you, but how do you know that you are happier than believers of, say, Islam or even non-believers? I know you won't believe me, but not all of us need to believe impossible things to be extremely happy and satisfied in life. <b>"are you serious about not thinking there is no after life and that you’re going to sleep for all eternity."</b> Yep, but it's not sleep. I expect that what I experience as 'me' will be utterly annihilated when my brain ceases functioning. Thinking that this belief is 'retarded' is your business. Your negative opinion of an idea doesn't make it untrue. <b>"And if God is not real, please explain to me all the supernatural things that happen to billions of people everyday?!"</b> Show me <em>one</em>. Oh, and define what you mean by 'supernatural' without reference to material things. You'll likely find it impossible. <b>"Don’t mean this in any kind of mean way!"</b> You don't? You've implied that everyone who disagrees with your mythology: a) lives for themselves b) is a malicious censurer c) is closed-hearted d) isn't really that happy e) is retarded I'd say that qualifies as 'mean'. Hello Rachael,

“Christianity is not a religion”

If it’s not, please, enlighten us. What is Christianity? Is Judaism a religion? If so, what requires Christianity to be given a different definition? Why is it commonly referred to as a religion?

My guess is that you are trying to make your religion ’special’ by artificially and unjustifiably excluding it from the category ‘religion’.

“but when people of Faith speak the truth in which God Almighty gave to us word for word, we are sshhushed!?!”

Bullshit. You’re preaching here, aren’t you? No one is ’shushing’ you. Your comment will remain here indefinitely. No one is shutting down churches to silence preachers. No one is taping shut the annoying street preacher who stands on the corner by where I work shouting hell-fire at everyone on their way home from work.

“And I am more Happy in a relationship with him than anyone can actually say “they are happy living the way they want to”.”

Good for you, but how do you know that you are happier than believers of, say, Islam or even non-believers? I know you won’t believe me, but not all of us need to believe impossible things to be extremely happy and satisfied in life.

“are you serious about not thinking there is no after life and that you’re going to sleep for all eternity.”

Yep, but it’s not sleep. I expect that what I experience as ‘me’ will be utterly annihilated when my brain ceases functioning. Thinking that this belief is ‘retarded’ is your business. Your negative opinion of an idea doesn’t make it untrue.

“And if God is not real, please explain to me all the supernatural things that happen to billions of people everyday?!”

Show me one. Oh, and define what you mean by ’supernatural’ without reference to material things. You’ll likely find it impossible.

“Don’t mean this in any kind of mean way!”

You don’t? You’ve implied that everyone who disagrees with your mythology:

a) lives for themselves
b) is a malicious censurer
c) is closed-hearted
d) isn’t really that happy
e) is retarded

I’d say that qualifies as ‘mean’.

]]> By: Rachael http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-73559 Rachael Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:13:11 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-73559 I just feel bad for everyone who thinks having faith in God is denile and loving Jesus makes you "religious". Christianity is not a religion, just lisen and those who think they "know" obviously don't have a relationship with the Father God, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But that is what prayer is for. I also would like to say, that all the people who are "for themselfs" can say anything, but when people of Faith speak the truth in which God Almighty gave to us word for word, we are sshhushed!?! If this is a free country, and one nation under God then how come everyone can't be heard. People today are too open minded and too close hearted! That's my opinion, and I once was a not believer so you don't have to say to yourself "oh she was born or brainwashed into christianity"! I actually chose this path after God chose me! And I am more Happy in a relationship with him than anyone can actually say "they are happy living the way they want to". Also everyone and everything dies, are you serious about not thinking there is no after life and that you're going to sleep for all eternity. Wow that's retarded. And if God is not real, please explain to me all the supernatural things that happen to billions of people everyday?! Don't mean this in any kind of mean way! I am a very loving , nice, caring, compassionant(?),understanding 23 yrs. old, Native American lady, and I get along great with everyone who is different from me. I love people! God Bless you all and I hope you have an Amazing & Awesome year, and I mean that from my heart! Rachael Luv * If you want to get a hold of me I am on Myspace under Rachael Luv, who isn't now a days! Ciao I just feel bad for everyone who thinks having faith in God is denile and loving Jesus makes you “religious”. Christianity is not a religion, just lisen and those who think they “know” obviously don’t have a relationship with the Father God, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But that is what prayer is for.
I also would like to say, that all the people who are “for themselfs” can say anything, but when people of Faith speak the truth in which God Almighty gave to us word for word, we are sshhushed!?! If this is a free country, and one nation under God then how come everyone can’t be heard. People today are too open minded and too close hearted! That’s my opinion, and I once was a not believer so you don’t have to say to yourself “oh she was born or brainwashed into christianity”! I actually chose this path after God chose me! And I am more Happy in a relationship with him than anyone can actually say “they are happy living the way they want to”. Also everyone and everything dies, are you serious about not thinking there is no after life and that you’re going to sleep for all eternity. Wow that’s retarded. And if God is not real, please explain to me all the supernatural things that happen to billions of people everyday?! Don’t mean this in any kind of mean way! I am a very loving , nice, caring, compassionant(?),understanding 23 yrs. old, Native American lady, and I get along great with everyone who is different from me. I love people!
God Bless you all and I hope you have an Amazing & Awesome year, and I mean that from my heart! Rachael Luv
* If you want to get a hold of me I am on Myspace under Rachael Luv, who isn’t now a days! Ciao

]]> By: Shaze http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39764 Shaze Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:52:06 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39764 I have a tremedous amount of love and hope for our species; let's put it all behind us and get drunk! I have a tremedous amount of love and hope for our species; let’s put it all behind us and get drunk!

]]> By: The Devout Atheist http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39516 The Devout Atheist Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:39:20 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39516 Alcari, What's your bases for saying that education is improving. It seems to me that if anything the quality of education is declining rapidely in this country with the helping hand of the federal government. The republicans know it is a lot easier to manipulate people's perceptions if they are kept as far from critical thinking as possible. Alcari,

What’s your bases for saying that education is improving. It seems to me that if anything the quality of education is declining rapidely in this country with the helping hand of the federal government. The republicans know it is a lot easier to manipulate people’s perceptions if they are kept as far from critical thinking as possible.

]]> By: Recovered Catholic http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39353 Recovered Catholic Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:39:29 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39353 @Alcari I so hope you are right.... @Alcari

I so hope you are right….

]]> By: Skids http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39322 Skids Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:58:54 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39322 "It’s also ruining your ability to tell “to” from “too” and “its” from “it’s”." That's why I posted the apology. But anyway, you got a kick out of it so all's good. “It’s also ruining your ability to tell “to” from “too” and “its” from “it’s”.”
That’s why I posted the apology. But anyway, you got a kick out of it so all’s good.

]]> By: Alcari http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39321 Alcari Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:24:57 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39321 Well, Skids, Research does show that young children actaully have a brain more suited for accepting everythin that it's told. You have to, you can find out for yourself wether fire is hot or not, but the odds of finding out wether or not stepping over that kliff will kill you, aren't good. Recovered Catholic: I disagree. I believe that people are actaully learning, more and more, to think for themselves. I actaully think that, as education improves and more people learn how to actaully reason, religion will decline. Not everyone instantly drop into denile when something bad happens. The problem is that religion is so self-preserving on it. What normally happens when someone is denial, that they eventually see it is true, simply by confrontation. With religion, people keep saying you're right... and it's not helping. Well, Skids, Research does show that young children actaully have a brain more suited for accepting everythin that it’s told. You have to, you can find out for yourself wether fire is hot or not, but the odds of finding out wether or not stepping over that kliff will kill you, aren’t good.

Recovered Catholic:
I disagree. I believe that people are actaully learning, more and more, to think for themselves. I actaully think that, as education improves and more people learn how to actaully reason, religion will decline.

Not everyone instantly drop into denile when something bad happens. The problem is that religion is so self-preserving on it. What normally happens when someone is denial, that they eventually see it is true, simply by confrontation. With religion, people keep saying you’re right… and it’s not helping.

]]> By: Mike http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39320 Mike Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:17:46 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39320 <blockquote>I am texting on my mobile way to much these days and its ruining my English. </blockquote> It's also ruining your ability to tell "to" from "too" and "its" from "it's". Sorry. Couldn't resist. -Mike

I am texting on my mobile way to much these days and its ruining my English.

It’s also ruining your ability to tell “to” from “too” and “its” from “it’s”.

Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

-Mike

]]> By: Skids http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39303 Skids Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:00:06 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39303 Apologies for my spelling! I am texting on my mobile way to much these days and its ruining my English. Apologies for my spelling! I am texting on my mobile way to much these days and its ruining my English.

]]> By: Skids http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39302 Skids Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:58:38 +0000 http://religiousfreaks.com/2007/03/15/the-evolution-of-religion/#comment-39302 I just briefly skimmed your quotes. I like Richard Dawkins' explanation better. That is, that religion isn't in itself adaptive, but a by product of other valuable evolutionary traits. Like it's very hand for a child to blindly accept what a parent or authority figure commands or instructs. Exemplia gratia: If Dad tells little ug not to enter the bear cave, it's possible that little ug will enter and live to tell the tale. But if there's a bear there and well... no more little og. If the little ug blindly accepts daddy's warning and never enters a bear cave, he'll have a better chance of producing offspring... Questioning that command isn't very adaptive. And so if you're told by dad that there's a god in the sky, etc, at a young age, you'll probably just accept it as true and not really question it. It makes sense, it's not a complete explanation. Dawkins proffers more ideas, and I'm sure others have to. I think it's interesting to think that if you were born in another culture you would have a different religion, viewpoint, etc. I think the test would be not to raise any children in a relgious background, teach them to think for themselves, and then when they are adults introduce them to all relgions. If, as relgious people say, their religion is so obviously great, then children would adopt it. I personally think they'd laughthemselves senseless at the inanity of it all.... I just briefly skimmed your quotes. I like Richard Dawkins’ explanation better. That is, that religion isn’t in itself adaptive, but a by product of other valuable evolutionary traits. Like it’s very hand for a child to blindly accept what a parent or authority figure commands or instructs.
Exemplia gratia: If Dad tells little ug not to enter the bear cave, it’s possible that little ug will enter and live to tell the tale. But if there’s a bear there and well… no more little og. If the little ug blindly accepts daddy’s warning and never enters a bear cave, he’ll have a better chance of producing offspring… Questioning that command isn’t very adaptive. And so if you’re told by dad that there’s a god in the sky, etc, at a young age, you’ll probably just accept it as true and not really question it.
It makes sense, it’s not a complete explanation. Dawkins proffers more ideas, and I’m sure others have to. I think it’s interesting to think that if you were born in another culture you would have a different religion, viewpoint, etc.
I think the test would be not to raise any children in a relgious background, teach them to think for themselves, and then when they are adults introduce them to all relgions. If, as relgious people say, their religion is so obviously great, then children would adopt it. I personally think they’d laughthemselves senseless at the inanity of it all….

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