Palestinians rejoice as Hooters will be supplying them with a fresh batch of targets. Young Palestinian suicide bombers, bored with targeting the usual pizza parlors and shopping malls, are eagerly awaiting the new chain of Hooters restaurants.
Prior to the Hooters arriving, terrorists were limited to Israeli targets. But now there’s a new dimension opening up. Hooters provides a bonus element due to its western origins. Now targets include women wearing low-cut blouses and short skirts, both a big no-no in Islamic culture.
But the Palestinians might have some competition. In a bold move, Hooters has decided to piss off the local Jewish population by not going kosher. I expect to see a good race between the Palestinians and the Haredi. Now to be fair, the Haredi have an advantage as they are already in Israel, but don’t count out the Palestinians just yet. They have proven to be quite adept at infiltrating Israel in the past.
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I am all in support of girls in barely there shorts and tank tops. I love it when ladies flaunt their assets. That said, I find it absolutely retarded to do that in front of crazy people driven mad by centuries of being told the female form is wicked. The OO in Hooters is just giving them something to sight in their weapons with. Why destroy perfectly good boobies like that?
Note to any Hooters girls: Should any of you feel threatened, move here to Texas with me. I will offer you a warm spot in my bed and three square meals a day. It is my way of protecting the victims of the war on boobies.
I was unaware of this company until today. Having gathered some information about Hooters from Wikipedia and their own web site I must clearly state that I dislike such chauvinistic places. This is close to prostituion. Which is all right with me as long as good wages are paid, certain hygiene standards are met and the employees are organized in a labor union. However, there are still problems with anti-discrimination laws. I have no idea if Israel has any such laws in place but if they have, I see trouble coming. First, the company only hires women (as restaurant staff). Second, they only hire women who look “good” by a majority standard. Third is a question: Is the gender distribution among leading positions in the company vaguely equal? Yeah, I know, concerned girly liberal Euro-weasel opinion. Get it on, dissect my argument, Yanks! :P
Concerning the Hooters opening in Israel, I must admit that I like the provocation of two religious freaks groups at the same time. It can only be healthy for these idiots. Maybe staring at tits keeps them from killing each other, that’d be fine. But please supply the waitresses with kevlar tops, just in case.
atheist, Hooters has some good hot wings, I went there this weekend while i was at a rugby tournament in Savannah, Georgia. The whole thing is really gimmicky and the girls DONT have to be too pretty, men usually work in the kitchen(what a crazy turn around). But i guess i can see where your coming from, maybe someday there will be a male equivalent(i dont really wanna think about that in too much detail).
I’ve only heard about hooters thru tv shows from yank land. Whilst I agree it is chauvanistic I still think it’s up to people to decide to go there or not. I mean if a girl gets paid a certain amount to wear low cut gear and serve crap food that’s her choice. If you don’t like it good for you, don’t go. I don’t think it means western society is evil or whatever. I recently remember reading egyptian blogs were all the boys there went on a raping/groping rampage at the end of the Eid festival.
I reckon it’s better for the boys to get a perve and be able to pick up girls (not necessarily at hooters, but wherever) than to be so repressed that they become sex fiends. And as for girls who say that they cover themselves due to modesty before god, grow up! Is your god a devient too, does he get jealous if a man sees you? You only say that because your mysogynist religion brainwashed you to be a chatell for men.
Hey, if you like tits; you’ll LOVE hooters!
Think of it this way, you don’t have to justify not looking the waitress in the eyes when you order. :D
Besides, I have come to the opinion that anyone who sentances themselves to work for a low paying job; is already dead inside anyways. I don’t care if you’re only doing it part time, stripping in the evenings to pay for your Art Degree.
The food is terrible, it’s a tacky theme, and you can’t pay the women enough to keep em. (Good submissive wife material in the ones that stay though eh? nudge nudge religious palestinian males?)
I know the girls at the Hooters here make a healthy wage in tips. It helps that most are hotter than any of the local strippers and beer at Hooters is insanely cheap. I have left $30 tips myself. By the time my buddies pitched in we had left over $100 on the table and all she had to do was keep the pitchers coming. The nearby tables were leaving similar tips. By the end of that night this girl had to have at least $900 over the span of 4 hours. Not bad considering the minimum education required is being able to count money and read the menu.
As for it being chauvinistic, that is a big load of crap. These girls choose to work there. If they don’t want to show off their assets, they could choose one of the 100 other restaurants in town. These girls like showing their stuff as much as we like watching it. Denying that some women like being seen as objects of lust is the true chauvinism.
I like to think of people denying lust as being part of the same mode of thought that creates vegans. We did not evolve into the ultimate apex predator just to eat lettuce. We did not get as far as we have as a species by denying sexuality. The prudish concepts we have today are a relatively recent development. From the beginning the female form has been appreciated like fine art. It was the coming of modern Christianity that really made it taboo. Anyone who calls me a chauvinistic pig for allowing myself the pleasure of appreciating the form of a woman who wishes to display said form can kiss my ass. It is that line of thought that is truly un-enlightened. Thats right, I just called Hooters enlightened. How’s that for a brain bender…
I just wonder how long it’ll take for some religious nutcase to the place, or come in blasting away with an AK. I also wonder if Vegas is taking bets on it.
Ahhh the ol’ commission arguement, well played Michael.
The thing with the “good nights” where peeps like you are there tipping big, are that they are few in far between. Overall, assuming they make around minimum wage in the US, ($4-6/hour?) that would put them in the 10-20k earning bracket. Now let’s assume that every night they work, they earn an average of, oh I dunno, say double their nightly wage. Still, even with an extra non-taxable 20k; they are making a non-livable wage. And that’s assuming a lot.
Your actions aren’t chauvinistic, but they encourage and support a kind of misogyny that a LOT of women are fighting against. That said, I use the same justification for Strippers and Prositutes; they provide a voluntary valuable service, because all of our women would rather eat chocolate than fuck us.
I hate religion.
Shaze, did you ever worked in any restaurant or a bar? No one lives of the paycheck there. Cause it is like $3 per hour. Only to cover taxes. Tips are the bread. Plus, in US, you should leave minimum 15% of the total check. Or else…
DeusExMicheal: “Thats right, I just called Hooters enlightened. How’s that for a brain bender…”
You’re my hero! Can I come to the next party you are throwing?
Nothing special except the location. Take the maid cafes in japan and also male equivalents. They have cosplay themed places and even girls dressing as guys for girls. Thats a peculiar one, but its safe for the ladies I presume.
Hooters is indeed a gimmick and I got foisted there on my 17th birthday, oi vey. I don’t care about discrimination at themed joints. Themes are fun.
@Skids: Any time you are in Corpus Christi, TX look me up.
@Shaze: You are right, but in the good ol’ USA, most people make less than $40,000/year. Why do you think we have the highest debt per capita on earth, hands down? Considering that being a Hooters girl has such low education requirements, their income is better than average for their industry.
Here in TX they make $2.50/hr plus tips. Theoretically, if their tips add up to less than the minimum wage, the restaurant makes up the difference. By comparison, I am a well educated computer systems Administrator and after all was said and don I pulled in just over $40k last year. Luckily the cost of living in Corpus Christi is below average, otherwise I wouldn’t be making it.
Corpus Christi – Body of Christ. Bloody hell! No wonder you struggle with fundies in that state. Anyway, I probably won’t be there soon. So, have a beer for me. Thanks for the offer.
Will do. Having one now as a matter of fact. Cheers!
Well, I think Hooters is definitely a place of female objectification. They aren’t “assets”, they’re body parts. The restaurant definitely promotes discrimination in people who discriminate already, but people who think it is wrong to treat women like dolls won’t eat there.
@Taylor: The sad but true fact is, everyone discriminates. If we wanted to see 400 pound women in tank tops and barely there shorts, that is what we would see. As for objectification, anyone who claims they do not objectify people is lying. We all objectify that which we desire. And saying women are the only victims of objectification is also ridiculous. Anyone who doesn’t believe that needs to go to a Chippendales. That is objectification at its purest. In the very act of condemning places like Hooters you condemn yourself by denying your very nature.
Waitresses in US only get $3-$4 an hour? man that’s bad, that works out at £1.50 – £2.00 an hour! Our minimum wage in UK is about £5.50, roughly $10.80 an hour, I know things are cheaper to buy in US, but c’mon, sounds like it’s time your minimum wage was raised, doubled if not trebled. It’s pretty hard to live on minimum wage in UK, I can’t begin to imagine living on US minium.
gasmonso,
It is not just a “big no-no in Islamic culture,” it is a big no-no in many other cultures (including Judaism). THere are feminists who object to it as well.
As for Palestinians “rejoicing over a new target,” here is a brief video about what is going on in Palestine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5V7nKCfr7k
it comes from the website http://ifamericansknew.org/about_us/gaza.html
From these links, you will really understand what will make Palistians rejoice.
Keef, they only get that much hourly because they are expected to earn a lot more off of tips. Of course, this still sucks for servers working non-peak hour shifts. However, my ex-girlfriend works at a Hooters, and she says it’s actually in the non-peak hours there that the creepy “regulars” come in that will tip excessively. On the weekends I know she’s been making $200+ a night.
Personally, if I were a female, (and of course still attractive, haha) I would be quite the whore. Finding a job to make decent money while in college for males is a wee bit more difficult, haha.
Also, I know there are Hooters in other parts of the world already, such as China and Sweden anyway. However, I don’t think it’s so wise to put one in the middle-east… I’m with Unbeliever on saying it’d be a good idea to start taking bets on how long it takes one to become a terrorist target.
A sizable segment of the Israeli population does not keep kosher. That Hooters is not kosher is fine with many
Isrealis. The McDonald’s outlets in Israel are not kosher
and are placarded as such, but it doesn’t stop them from
doing a lively business.
….Fred
Glad it ain’t kosher, why would you waste kosher food in a
place like that!!!
Apparently some rabbi is trying to get it to be Kosher….
Fairfield Jewish Sentinel
Friday May 30, 2008
Hooters Israel Should be Kosher
“The Rabbi’s Corner”
by Rabbi Dovid Zev-Yad
It was recently announced that the restaurant chain Hooters has opened a franchise in Tel Aviv. Hooters, for those of you who do not know, is a popular American restaurant chain famous for its waitresses who dress in low cut shirts and short tight skirts. It goes without saying that these establishments demean women and should not be patronized by any Jewish man. But there remains the halachic issue of their kashrut status. Given that many Jewish men do frequent Hooters, it would certainly be better if they were at least eating kosher, rather than treif, while ogling scantily clad women.
Some readers are no doubt thinking that no Torah Jew who keeps kosher would dare set foot in such a place, so the question is irrelevant. But of course many Jewish men are not Torah Jews, and we need to help them keep all the mitzvot nonetheless. This includes kashrus. Each Jew practices religion according to his or her ability and it is the job of us engaged in kiruv to encourage them in their observance as much as we can. To this end, we need to press the management of the Hootersin Israel to make their establishment kosher.
In addition, the sad fact is that many otherwise Torah observant Jews do frequent immoral businesses like Hooters. I can tell you that I have personally seen many of my own Yeshiva students patronize Hooters in the past. I have made a habit of visiting Hooters in Manhattan on a regular basis to find out just which talmidim might be there. I often have to wait two or three hours on a given night before I see someone I recognize. These are agonizing periods for me as I must endure the temptations of uncountable nubile young women. It is all I can do to avoid their flirtations and keep my mind on Hashem. The only thing I have found that works is to repeat to myself the words from Eshet Chayil, “Shecker haChen, v’hevel ha’yofi.” or “Grace is deceptive, beauty is illusory.” My trial is made even worse since I have nothing to consume except water. I have asked the manager if I could bring my own food, but he told me that it is not allowed. He offered me a Snickers bar once. But he wanted two dollars for it and it can be purchased at a vending machine for less than half that. Besides, since I keep chalov yisrael, I would not eat it anyway.
When I finally do encounter a student of mine, as is usually the case, it is all worth it. I invite him to sit at my table, and together we talk for an hour or two. I ask him to point out which waitress is most tempting to him, and which of her features awakens his yetzer harah (evil inclination). We study each and every employee and talk about why God tests us. And in the end, I always reach the boy. But it would be a lot easier if I had something to eat while I engage in this most holy of tasks.
I dined at home of my Rosh Yeshiva recently and I asked him about the possibility of giving shiurim at Hooters. He initially said that such a thing would be unacceptable. But later that day, privately after Mincha, he told me that he had rethought the idea and that it might be worth trying. After I took him to Hooters myself, and he had seen it first hand, he told me that he was in complete agreement. He even offered to help me teach the shiurim. But there is still the nagging issue about the Kashrus of the food. God willing, the management will be able to work with us to provide for our needs.
In addition to writing his weekly column for The Sentinel, Rabbi Zev-Yad teaches at the Pinsker Yeshiva in Monsey. He is also in the process of finishing a book entitled, “A Thousand Ways to Test Your Yetzer Harah”, which will be published in 2009.
“I have made a habit of visiting Hooters in Manhattan on a regular basis to find out just which talmidim might be there. I often have to wait two or three hours on a given night before I see someone I recognize. These are agonizing periods for me as I must endure the temptations of uncountable nubile young women.”
LOL how i love jews.
Lol, Javascript fail.
“He offered me a Snickers bar once. But he wanted two dollars for it and it can be purchased at a vending machine for less than half that.”
This is a joke, right? Nobody’s THAT Jewish!
This discussion is quite interesting, and it seems that there are a great deal of assumptions being made by people who have no understanding of what it actually is to be a Hooters Girl.
I’d like to clear a few things up.
I live in Washington, which means my hourly (minimum) wage is just over $8/hr, plus tips. Obviously, working twenty to thirty hours a week at that wage does not amount to more than around two hundred bucks or so, once taxes and whatnot are subtracted. That is where tips come in to play. Most of the Hooters patrons tip at least 20%, all the way up to 100%, depending upon the guy, his waitress, and the quality of service that he received. Girls frequently earn tips of $50 or $100 for serving just one or two people. Compared to other restaurants in the area, that is excellent money.
It is true that in especially upscale restaurants, where food prices are exorbitantly high, similar tips can be made, but as a waitress, those places are not particularly fun places to work. You must be very quiet, discreet, and somber in such restaurants. Hooters, however, is a fun, vibrant, upbeat place. Servers are encouraged to goof off, joke around with their servers and other employees, and have a good time.
The objectification of the Hooters servers is a valid point, however my time working at a family diner yielded a higher number of assholes than my time at Hooters had, and the diner was not very well equipped to handle such incidents, unlike Hooters.
Lastly, there is a lot of talk about the exploitation of women at Hooters. As anyone who has ever worked at Hooters knows, Hooters is the site of a great deal of exploitation, however the vast majority of exploitation is of the men who frequent the restaurant. Men and boys come in on a daily basis to look at pretty women, eat bar food, and watch sports games. These men and boys have the opportunity to talk to gorgeous women, women who might not otherwise give them the time of day. In exchange for their conversation and attention, the men are expected to tip well. Essentially, men are paying exorbitant amounts of money to talk to pretty women. Who’s being exploited? Besides, all parties know exactly what they are getting in to when the walk in to a Hooters. It’s not exactly some top secret club.
-The Hooters Girl
I hope the Hooters in Tel aviv treats its workers better than the one in Netanya (Poleg) did. Ofer Ahiraz hired a mostly Arab staff so he could take advantage and pay them less, the Jewish staff he did hire were paid a little more but were not paid for any holidays and no transport. He worked them on Shabbat with no overtime paid. They worked double shifts with no over time compensation. I hope every laid off worker from The Netanya Hooters will go to the Histadrut.
Elesheiva, i am curious, who owns this restaurant and what is their nationality of this restaurant?
I believe they’re breaking the franchise agreement and should be told(the mother company) of this unfair behaviour.
i believe hooters is a US company, right? anyone?
To Number 6
Anyone who thinks any different is a narcissistic fascist who, deluded by their denial of their impotence in all of life’s matters, while harboring extreme feelings of inadequacy, all subconsciously, (which in turn fuels their desire to make the world perfectly safe for people like themselves), and is too bedazzled with their wonderfulness to deal realistically with life. Therefore they deem it their role in life to meddle with the machinery that weaves the fabric of our existence.
I have been using good skin care products, going to salon for deep cleansing pore facial twice a year and keep my regimen and diet properly. Now I don’t have any problem with my skin.
american restaurants usually serve foods that are high in protein and also in saturated fats `