You’re “simple thought” makes no sense. You get and “A” for effort, but and “F” in competence. Boo on you.

Additionally, one would think that an infinite being could do something as simple as make sense. As it is, religion is so convoluted that no two groups can completely agree on what the same texts says. One might say “God is testing us,” but why would God test anyone if he supposedly knows the end from the beginning. Just one of many contradictions your supposedly “perfect being” displays.

Here is a simple thought. There are no repentant souls in Hell, regardless of their beliefs during their physical life.

This was widely believed because of an interpretation of the Bible. That interpretation was altered so that there no longer is a limbo, and that is what the Pope declared.

I’m not here to argue the existence of God, for I know that every point I could make, there would likely be a counter point, and it would become a little too tedious to keep going back and forth. I just wanted to clear up a little confusion over what the Pope said.

Apparantly we “are” in charge of our own fate after all! Religious? Recycle? Join these hypocrits.

I take a break for 2 weeks and you guys strike the mother-lode of delusional pseudo-trolls!

I swear I’m actually somewhat jealous…. :)

(hey Gas, hope your doin’ ok!!!)

First off, don’t call me Dearest. The insincerity is offensive.

Secondly, you obviously don’t know the Bible as well as you think you do. Brian and Alcari have got the facts straight, and when I read that you believe the Bible to be a “historically accurate document” I burst out laughing.

Just like how I burst out laughing when I watched “The Ten Commandments” at Easter. I had an epiphany, if you will, when Moses saw the Burning Bush. It struck me as total nonsense that God, in all his Glory and Power, would appear to a mortal being as a burning bush. That’s just plain silly.

It’s also mythology. And once that thought occurred to me, everything became very clear. As pointed out in earlier posts, Paul invented the Christian Mythology, began changing the rules of the first followers of Christ…actually, they didn’t have that many RULES, but Paul saw the need to complicate things. I see Paul as the prototype for the modern evangelist, the eternal Opportunist.

What saddens me most about the Christianists is their blatant hypocrisy and the way they trivialize God. Fellowship with God? The idea is absurd and, in my opinion, blasphemous. There can be no fellowship between mortals and God. That’s pulling Him down to our level instead of us aspiring to be better humans and more God-like in our ways.

To quote Alcari, AAAAAAARRRGGHHH!!!!!

(Hey, does this fellowship concept involve meeting God over at O’Charley’s and having a round of beers? )

1 Jesus was here and was crucified
2 Jesus did die on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins
3 Jesus did rise again and was seen by over 500 witnesses (check Josephus a secular historian of the time)
4 Jesus ascended into heaven there are no bones
5 Pontias Pilates wife was a christian. Jesus healed their child
6 Jesus loves you
7 Hicaricore is obviously a simpleton

1 checks out, however I must point out that there were as many jesuses in isreal as there are in mexico right now. 2-> well, you can interpret the reason as you see fit, it was because of causing publix uproar, but if you say “sins” then whatever.
3 -> uhhh…. secular? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus#Significance_to_scholarship
4 -> there are hundreds of deaths where people don’t leave bones, hell, there are almost no bones left from 2000 years ago, did they all go to heaven?
5 -> says one single, highly disputed source.
6&7 -> drop the filler.

We are all programmed by God to seek him.

Compile error in module: Religion

I challenge you all to give Jesus a chance through this power of the Holy Spirit. You can’t deny Jesus was a real person. Give him a chance to prove he’s God and He will.

personal stories are nice, but useless, as for every “I found god” story here, there is an “I saw the light” story, so your nice argument hold zero weight.

Yes God does know what we need. He knows what we’ll pray for before we do. However he wants us to depend on Him to love Him. He wants us to have fellowship with him.

Hey, just my little 4-year old nephew who want confirmation all the time.

Alcari,
Have you heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls?

Yes i have, though you seem to have left out your argument.

Did you know that Archeology has never revealed any evidence to refute the bible. On the contrary it always supports it.

AHAHAHA, you mean the evidence showing how the great exodus was only a few thousand people? or the semi-evidence showing that there WAS a jesus? Or the fact that several people did exist as named in the bible? Those are hardly proof of a bearded man in the sky.

Thou shalt not kill ring a bell. Doesn’t sound like a big promoter of genocide to me

a few words then, that might ring a bell to you.
Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, jebisite, Jericho, Gomorra, amelekites, sisera, caanites.

Can’t find any of em? That’s because God ordered them wiped out. try reading Jos.12:24, for a discription of “God’s love” Thou shalt not kill, my ass.

If Christianity doesn’t set guidelines for morality what does? You?

Why yes, I do indeed, as does everyone else. everyone does to everyone else as they would want the other person to do to them. ie. You don’t steal because you don’t want to be robbed.

The Bible is an accurate histoical document and accepted as such.

accepted as such ONLY by religious non-scientists…
some stuff in it “kind-a-looks-like-it’s-true” but

If atheists do chose to do drugs and are promisuous does that make them bad if there are no moral absolutes.

Either you’re not reading, have skipped over the replies or are a complete retard. It’s not the first one, and I’m starting to have serious doubts about the other two.

Then again, doing drugs does not make one evil.

the bible is accepted in public schools and universities as an accurate historical document.

That’s not proof, just another statement. Also, no school university i’ve been to accepts the bible as an ACCURATE source. Sure, some of it is true, but it is generally considered circumstantial evidence.

okay irish 1 more then lights out for this old man 39. Do i really have to provide evidence that Jesus was here and was crucified. Read the Koran. It mentions jesus more than mohammed (13 times I believe.)

AAAAAARRRGGHHH!!!!!!! THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE! Good thing i’m a major pacifist, or i’d punch you straight through the internet…. I choose to revise my opinion of you and clasify you as category three, but in disguise. for the absolute last time, before i give up hope that humanity may still work out fine.

What you’re saying is that, because [a man named] jesus was crucified, [the biblical figure of] jesus must have been real. That’s like saying because a guy named Bruce was hit by a car, Batman is real….

you see, there is more eviDENSE that Batman is real, because there is more then one source pointing to him.

You need to see the great physician, you’ve got a heart condition.

The solution to which is not very kind for people like you…I’ll refrain from actually putting it in practise.

Also, try to reduce the number of posts by putting stuff in one window.