I remember growing up as a kid and watching Saturday morning cartoons. It was a fantastic part of my childhood that brings back many fond memories. Whether it was the Smurfs, Super Friends, Tom & Jerry, Spider-Man, Dungeons & Dragons, or even the Care Bears, the premise was simple… provide children with an innocent form of entertainment and carry them to far off lands for a 30-minute adventure. Whether or not you even learned anything was irrelevant, this was all about fun! But that was America. I’m not sure what cartoons our European neighbors watched but I would assume it was a similar experience.
Over in the Middle East things are a tad bit different… at least if you’re Palestinian. Al Aqsa TV has taken it upon themselves to air a very original series for children. Think of it as Mickey Mouse with a dash of Adolf Hitler and a smidge of Osama Bin Laden.
The future looks bright for our children :)
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May 10th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
heh a bit late, disney shut them down
May 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Is that a joke? That can’t be translated properly
May 10th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
@Itanshi:
I don’t think your right… check out this link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/11/whamas11.xml
If you find an article stating otherwise please share, but it looks like they are resisting pressure to cancel the show.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:51 am
I don’t see what’s so special about this. Using children’s entertainment for propaganda has always been done. Just think of the famous Der Fuehrer’s Face. I would even list Duck and Cover under this category.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:30 am
Wasn’t the smurfs communist propaganda? all wearing similar outfits except for the all-knowing father smurf. Working together to fight the evil sorceres who wants to turn the smurfs into gold to indulge his capitulistic urges.
May 11th, 2007 at 6:42 am
please tell me this is a joke..?
also, the smurfs does indeed look like communist propaganda, now that you mention it.
May 11th, 2007 at 9:05 am
Hey Mohamed, where are you dude? We need to know if this was actually translated correctly. If so, it makes me sad.
May 11th, 2007 at 10:39 am
HMmm this all looks pretty recent, the net says they just started it last January. I’m positive the translations are a bit skewed, and would be actually curious to know if what they are saying is accurate. (Obviously edited though)
And whatever, shows like these are aimed at the stragglers in their society who haven’t fully conformed. I’m sure the longevity of their society is passed on through the men, and emphasized throughout their lives.
May 11th, 2007 at 10:39 am
This makes me think of the old Soviet propaganda cartoons (as in, made by the USSR, not made by us and against the USSR, although we certainly did that). Imagine the grandest stereotypes of “robber barons” swallowing bags of money and the working class and whatnot. Fun stuff!
On a side note, there are few things that enrage me quite like stuff like this used to indoctrinate children. Teach your children to say no to strangers, okay. Teach them to become martyrs, not so much. I would think there should be a line drawn somewhere.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:38 am
The translation is fairly accurate except for “We will annihilate the Jews.” The voice is barely audible but I think the girl said “Shoot the Jews” or “Be shot by the Jews”; I can’t saw for sure.
Astonishing nonetheless, I’ve never seen such blatant brain washing on an Arab TV before.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Scary, but the translation is pretty much spot on (from what I can hear). It’s a creepy sounding voice from the Mickey rip-off, too. This kind of crap is not limited to muslims, ever see christian TV here in the States? Child abuse, no doubt about it.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Now they’ve done it. It’s one thing to take on Israel and the US. It’s another thing entirely to take on Disney!
Don’t mess with the mouse. He’s got a lot of nasty lawyers.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Snurp Says:
May 11th, 2007 at 10:39 am
In no way we had anything that In-Your-Face in USSR, unless we are talking about fascism. I mean, I would know. My childhood and teenage were spent there, USSR. The majority of cartoonists tried to stay away of propaganda as best as they could. Obviously there were requirement for propaganda from government. But those usually were done in poorer quality, i.e. boring quality.
P.S. I do highly recommend to rent some if you can get your hand on:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlsson-on-the-Roof
2. prostokvasheno
3. Vinny Puh (Winnie the Pooh) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qam9JBk5Oig
May 11th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
The translation is quite accurate, except for “to annihilate the jews”, the girl says(from what I gathered after listening 5 times) “the jews want to shot us”.
At least don’t fuck with my buddy Mickey! he’s Copyrighted!
May 11th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Oh yea, I am well aware of the evil christians here that say similar crap to kids here. Remember that “jesus” camp video a while back? Pretty much the same thing. It is all just unbelievably wicked to warp young people’s minds like that.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
When I mentioned Soviet propaganda I was thinking of this:
http://store.russiananimation.com/ansopr.html
I think this is mostly just the early stuff, though. Interesting nonetheless, and of course this stuff would have been entirely state-sanctioned. I imagine that the more independent cartoonists would be hesitant to say the least.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Well… In USSR there was no such thing as independent. Most of the art was state sponsored; especially the one which went to the screens. The “independent” would never had a chance to get approved.
I’ve seen some of these, but they were rarity in my time.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
P.S. Would you realy watch these cartoons as a child? Unless… your parents are sadists.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
I meant independent not in the sense of being unconnected to the state (since we are talking about the USSR, here), but being independent-minded. Those who wouldn’t have wanted to put the glory of the great worker’s state into illustration probably wouldn’t have gotten far…
Also, I agree that these cartoons probably wouldn’t be to a child’s taste. But, recalling all the wonderful cartoons and shows made by our own (US) government to enforce safety rules and laws and whatnot, I find it likely that a government by default has little or no idea how to speak to people.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Sorry guys I was little bit busy watching NBA ( UTAH JAZZ), I watched the video, and the girl said we will shoot the Jews and we will fight to liberate Alaqsa.
Hamas is runing this station, and I think it’s result from the crimes that Israel doing day after day agianst the plastenian, Gasonom what do you think in your opinion the bright future for these kids, getting shot by Israel army, that the bright future that waiting for them any way.
May 12th, 2007 at 3:23 am
saw that on the daily show this week, its pretty damn scary for multiple reasons:
1) to think that children are being taught this type of stupid information as truth is dumbfounding.
2) the thinly veiled mascot is horrible, it reminds me of joe camel. except instead of smoking and giving themselves cancer, its teaching them to hate any and everyone different and blow themselves up to get rid of couple of the “infidels”.
3) it makes me weep to see one of my childhood favorites reduced to this, if they rip off the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Transformers im going over there to commit some martyrdom myself.
Mohamed, its a vicious cycle. One side kills some on the other side and there is a reaction, then that cause another reaction, and so on and so forth. If it came down to it im not sure i can support either side. But the MODERATE sector of Palestine seems most likely to really do something good, they have have to get a voice over these crazy whackos. Mohamed, correct me if im wrong, but i think we have that in common!!
Namaste
May 12th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
irishthunder,
I agree with you about what you said, and that’s why I mentioned that this childern program is from Hamas, I hope both parties get along, but from what I see in ME, I don’t think it will happen, both parts has reasons to keep this war going on, and the moderates are over-shadowed with the extrmists in both parties.
The thing that nobody noticed here, and it was really funny, that his clip was talking also about using the Arabic language, not other languages, and they used Mickey Mouse to deleiver this message to the childern where Mickey Mouse is American Charcter.
May 13th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
hmm my source was a local radio show, maybe they trying to and not won yet? Hmm, needs research
May 15th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
Hey, Gasmonso, Jerry Falwell has been smote by God. Let’s get ready for the wave of hypocrisy from politicians who will praise that fat, bigoted, lying lunatic.
May 16th, 2007 at 4:55 am
hi
there is this page i found which tracks all the top blog news about atheism in just a single page
http://www.netreputation.co.uk/directory/atheism
you are on it too
May 16th, 2007 at 6:27 am
Something I found regarding Memri’s translations.
May 16th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Meh, they’re like roaches. One dies, a dozen more crawl out of the woodwork.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Hooray, the world has lost an idiot!
Just remember folks, if the world didn’t suck, we would all fall off.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Shaze, you’re my hero.
May 17th, 2007 at 1:09 am
Fundamentalism of any stripe. God is freedom to choose.
May 19th, 2007 at 8:57 pm
Did anyone else see that westborough baptist are planning to picket falwell’s funeral?
May 20th, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Yeah. Apparently he wasn’t extreme enough for them (seriously). He supported such “un-Christian” ideas as Jesus’ loving people and whatnot. Who knew?
May 20th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
I think in their own perverse way Westborough Baptist perform a valuable service…. By helping people see how sick all this fairytale-believing really is.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
See, maybe it’s just me, but it seems that the problem is always with people thinking that their beliefs are better than everyone elses. The belief itself isn’t the problem, it’s the self-righteous attitude that comes from “knowing” you’re right and they are wrong.
It’s the same with these children shows. The assumption is that the palistinian people are right and the jewish people are wrong. There is no thought that they could be wrong… Or that someone else could be right as well.
And, I hate to say it, but it’s the same issue I see here way too much. The assumption that your beliefs are more valid than others leads to an arrogance that makes you vulnerable to hubris. But belief (even in the non-existance of an unprovable entity) is simply that: belief. And it’s only sick when you are sure you are better than others because of it.
May 21st, 2007 at 1:21 am
I don’t believe in any supernatural entities. That’s lack of belief. So, don’t try and paint me as a believer thanks.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:48 am
Sorry, but if you are adamant that your non-belief makes you better than those that believe, you wre just as bad as them. You believe that belief in supernatural entities means you are stupid. Like it or not, that is a belief in-and-of itself.
You are an arrogant, self-righteous, fanatical bigot, just like them.
Now, if you simple don’t know and don’t care, _that_ is lack of belief. If you cannot say who is right, but really don’t care, then you don’t believe. That lack of “knowledge” is what differentiates belief from true nonbelief. It is that uncertainty that is classically scientific, instead of classically religious.
That’s all I’m saying.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:46 am
Outsider: So to truly have non-belief you have to be apathetic? I honestly don’t get where you are going with that.
I am a little arrogant with my lack of belief, granted. I do think I am either smarter or better than a god person with respect to spirituality, because I believe I am right and that they are wrong. The major difference being, I will concede that there is a chance they are right and I am wrong, a thing they will never in a million years do. Granted, I believe the chances of them being right is statistically indistinguishable from zero (I love that phrase haha), but there is that small insignificant chance.
In my opinion the more complex the religious belief the less likely it is to be true. When I say true, I mean in all of its dogmatic glory, like they believe. Based on this Wicca and Buddism are much more likely to be true than any flavor of Christianity or Islam.
May 21st, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Lack of belief is a belief.
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:49 am
lack of light is light
lack of anger is anger
lack of air is air…
Do you see anything wrong with your statement, Mohamed? Or have you converted to Buddhism? They are the only ones that I now of who assert that P = ~P with any seriousness.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 am
I don’t believe you.
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Lack of belief is a belief in the same way as my not collecting stamps is a hobby.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pm
While I have been a avid reader of this site for quite a while, although a very infrequent poster (only 2 or 3 posts to my name), I wonder about Gasmonso - is he okay? No new stories for almost 2 weeks. If you are reading this Gasmonso, I hope you are keeping well and working through whatever lifes tribulations have been keeping you away from your awesome site. Your friends here at religiousfreaks are thinking of you and hope for swift return. Apologies for any crap spelling/grammar - my dyslexia is getting better but still stops me from putting into words exactly what I mean.
May 23rd, 2007 at 7:49 pm
I beleive that god exist, and you beleive he doesn’t exist, so it’s still belief.
May 24th, 2007 at 12:11 am
I don’t believe in god. I don’t believe he doesn’t exist either. I have no way of knowing if he doesn’t exist, but there is no evidence to support his existence. Show me god, then I’ll know. Until then I see no more reason to believe or not believe in him than to believe or not believe in Santa Clause.
May 24th, 2007 at 12:25 am
Brina,
What would the wisdom of seeing god, seeing is not believing, and that’s what all about.
You see god and then what?, would you obey him? would you listen to him?
Even if you see him, you would still ask for more, you would say how could I know that would be god.
The whole thing in your heart, nothing will change what ever you believe othe than god, and that’s by his own hand, not me not any body else.
God told our prophet, you don’t guide people to believe in me, I’m the one who guides people.
I hope god guides you ( don’t take as an offensive comment)
May 24th, 2007 at 12:45 am
Hey Mohamed, no offense taken. You hit the nail on the head (sort of). It’s faith (which is in your head, not your heart). But I know what you mean. I don’t have faith, I see it as a bad thing, as it takes away your freedom to think. People of faith can’t even consider alternate explanations of the world, because it conflicts with “God did it! my holy book says so!”. Well, if you’re happy swallowing that, that fine. I just get upset and react when people of faith try to tell me that they know how I should live. But anyway….. How you been lately?
By the way, If I saw a being, that obviously was acting in a way to the natural laws, like god, first I’d get some independent people to see if they see what I’m seeing because people hallucinate, or suffer from mental illness. I’d rule that out first because proclaiming I’ve seen god. Then if there were no natural explanations, I’d accept that it was god.
May 24th, 2007 at 12:46 am
EDIT: …in a way contrary to the natural laws…
May 24th, 2007 at 1:31 am
I’m really doing good, I hope you are doing well too.
Did any body tell you don’t act the way you are acting, I don’t think so, you are free to do what ever.
People can talk about their faith(they have the freedom to do so), and it might bother you what they are saying, because it might doesn’t go well with what you believe or you don’t believe, but it still just an opinion, I don’t think somebody hold a gun and told you don’t do that, am I right.
The other thing that we believe one day that the anti-chtist will show up and he will do mircales and super naturals stuff, and people will think that he is god from the mircales that he is going to do( all this mircal will be by god willing as I believ), would you belive him because he does super natural stuff.
I know you might don’t even believe in anti-christ, it was just question. My point here that seeing is deceiving sometimes, and you still can answer my question.
May 24th, 2007 at 1:36 am
Hey Mohamed, when I was growing up, my parents told me it was bad having sex before marriage. That’s only because of religion, nothing to do with what’s natural and healthy. Even today, people try to change laws against abortion because a book says so, not on health grounds.
As for the anti-christ, well, if he says he’s god, does supernatural stuff and I’m not stark raving mad, how would I know. I mean, it’s not gonna happen, but how would you know Mohamed? If a being appeared before you, and said it was god, and told you that you were a good muslim, would you risk going to hell doubting it?
May 24th, 2007 at 3:15 am
Hey again Mohamed, I just had a question pop into my brain. Do muslims believe in the anti-christ? I mean is that the word you use? Because anti-christ means the opposite of christ, as in Jesus. You’ve said muslims view Jesus as a prophet, not a god. Therefore, an anti-christ from the muslim point of view wouldn’t just be a bad man…… Thoughts?
May 25th, 2007 at 12:50 am
Hi Brian,
There will be a guy which we call him Elmassekl eldagal, I don’t how to explaing his name in English, but he is similar to the anti christ, but he is not anti christ( I mean in the meaning), he will tempt the people and he will do mircales, only believers will see liar word on his forehead, and a lot of people will follow him, the only place that he can’t go as I remember is Mecca, he is not allowed to be there, and he never get childern, and he will be with one eye.
At the end Jesus will come back with the help of Gabrial and he will kill the Anti christ, and then Jesus will destroy the cross and he will tell people the truth that he is not a god or even son of god, and then he will die, and that will be the biggest sign of the judgment day, nobody will be forgiven after this day if he didn’t believe in god before.
Absloutly he is a bad man, it will be the worst temptation will face human being, and I hope I don’t get this day.
May 25th, 2007 at 12:58 am
Wow, your eschatology is as nasty as the christians. Glad I don’t believe. Anyway, why can’t he go to Mecca, and indeed why can’t I go to Mecca? I have 2 eyes and I don’t have liar tattooed on my forhead ;)
May 25th, 2007 at 1:19 am
It’s not tattoed by the way, it just going to show to the believers, Why can’t you go to Mecca, I really don’t know the specific answer for that, and I’m serious and honest and I’m not runing away from the question, I never been intersted to know the answer.
I wouldn’t say nasty, I would say scary( might be), but if you think about it, it could happen, things worse happend before and it still happens so far(war in Iraq), we just don’t feel it, but if you experinced it, you will find this nasty things happen today.
We say war is awfull, but we don’t really know what war really mean, other than seeing it in the news, but experince war is a differnet issue, I have met people in Egypt fought in war, and I can tell you, they still damaged inside even after 20 years after war.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:24 am
I have no doubt people are damaged by war. I agree that I have no idea what war is like also. I’m surprised that you say worse things can happen. It is supposed to be the end of the world after all. But perhaps you feel that you are on the side of the “winners” and don’t think it’s the scariest thing out there.
Anyway,I’m not really interested in going to Mecca, just wondering if there was a reason why non muslims aren’t allowed to…
May 25th, 2007 at 1:32 am
Who told you I’m in the winner side, I told you I wish I don’t see that day, I don’t if I’m doing enough or not to be true believer, I’m just trying, that’s all I can do.
No Muslims gurantee any thing, and if you meet a Muslim and he told I gurantee the heaven, tell him behalf on me you are stupid, or he talk like he gurantee it, no he is a real stupid.
If I’m defending Islam, I’m doing because I believe it’s the right thing, that doesn’t mean I’m a perfect person, I’m still human-being( sometimes weak), but at the end I know how mercifull god is.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:35 am
Sorry man, just your comment about worse things happened before. Thought maybe you felt comfortable with it. Tell me, is it true that when a muslim dies, he or she believes that 2 angels come down and ask them a few questions about god and the prophet and based on how good a muslim they were when alive, they’ll give the correct answers? And if they pass they’ll remain in their grave, nice and cosy until the time that gabriel and jesus come back and kill the anti christ or if they’re judged bad, they’ll be tormented by the angels until the end of time except on fridays?
May 25th, 2007 at 1:41 am
Most of what you said is true, and add to that you the devil show as your parents and he tries to tempt you to deny god existence, and if you are truly believer, you will deny them, and it’s true that two angels will ask you these questions.
I don’t know about except on Fridays, not really sure about this part.
I’m sorry sometimes I don’t asnwers, and I can’t make up answers, that’s against Islam.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:47 am
Don’t be sorry, just asking. Thanks for your honesty.
It strikes me as really a terrible thing to have to “look” forward to. I mean, even if you are good and pass the test. You have to hang around in your grave, be it nice until the end of time. I’ve never really liked the idea of heaven. I mean, it sounds really boring, being all happy, healthy and nothing new to learn. But that’s just my impression.
I’m going home now, so you have yourself a great weekend my friend. Take care.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:51 am
I need to get some sleep too, we can resume our talking later.
Have a good weekend too, and I hope Utah Jazz wins on Saturday( go Jazz )
May 27th, 2007 at 3:45 am
I’d just like to point out that ghetto Mickey Mouse there is wearing his gloves on the wrong hands.. notice the lines are in his palms… Yeesh..
These poor kids. I really hope that not too many kids watch this brainwashing garbage… then again their are some just as bad Christian Channel programs for children.
Less not forget that Jesus Camp.
Why can’t kids just be kids? Why ruin them with forcing your agenda on them? It’s just wrong…
May 27th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Can I ask a question of Mohammed in all humility in ignorance as a Western Atheist and, I suppose, an Infidel? I’m not being funny or clever, I simply want to know - if a martyr in paradise has 72 virgins, what do the women get? Sorry, but I didn’t get this from my reading of the Qu’ran. I repeat, this question is submitted in humility and ignorance. I’m no proffessor or preacher, just a guy trying to understand. Where do ther women stand? Cheers, Mohammed, for your consistently forthright views.
May 27th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
I never red alot about heaven, and what exactly man or woman will have.
The only thing that I want to point out, people think that the Muslims think about the virgins and that’s why they want to go to heaven, that’s plain stupid, the most thing Muslims want heaven to see god face, and to be in Prophet Muhammed company( that’s the highest degree in the heaven), but for the virigns that’s mostly West probegand, and the terroeist using to get the ignorant people to do what they want, which leads to one more point, people in ME doesn’t even have money to get married or do any thing, and that’s why may the terroirst is using this method to get more people in their side.
Stop watching Fox news, that’s when you became ignorant:)
May 28th, 2007 at 1:32 am
Urg… who watches Fox news?!
I always found it funny that Fox news is so far right that they shit crucifixes…. but Fox network programming is some of the most, unintelligent, sexually explicit, morally wrong and downright anti-right winged agenda stuff you see on tv.
What’s up with that?
May 28th, 2007 at 2:01 am
When I watch fox news, I feel like I’m watching Egyptian news, they just keep cheering for the president, not matter what he did?
And they always against Islam.
I have one question and it’s about all the American media, when there a show about Islam, why they always get non Muslims to answer questions about Islam? seriously I can’t find answer for that.
May 28th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
What about this, then. What if some of the contributors to this site came to Egypt and had a chat with Mohammed. What if we put our money where our mouths were, and turned up in person? I personally think that Mohammed is a decent guy who is really quite couragious in his defnce of Islam. Why can’t we give him a try? What are we afraid of? Who knows, we might find that we were wrong! Mohammed, my man, give me an invite!(Iknow this sounds a bit lighthearted but that’s just my style. I mean it seriously).
June 1st, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Mike@Blackpool UK,
Why do we need to travel to Egypt? Why isn’t the media doing its job and informing us of the different type of people in the world? Were is this freedom of speech Westerners like to talk about? The mainstream media is a propoganda tool for certain Western countries to convince their citizens that it is acceptable to bomb countries to kill hundreds of thousands and use depleted uranium and chemical weapons to destroy the people and their environment.
We should be contacting various media outlets asking why they don’t show us the different types of Muslims? They often paint Muslims in a one-dimensional way: the angry bearded men protesting and burning an american flag and their women as voiceless and wearing black from head to toe. Photographs leave a bigger impression on peope than words. Because most people don’t read about current affairs. Often magazines and books that have a article related to islam, will have on their cover, a picture of a Muslim women with her face covered. The majority of Muslim woemn do not cover their faces.
June 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pm
It is said that Walt Disney was an anti-semite and most people accuse Hamas of being anti-Semitic?
So you would think people would be saying that mickey mouse and Hamas TV go together.
Here is an article about the history of children’s cartoons and racism in America
http://web.media.mit.edu/~ayah/MediaTheories/#5
What about today’s children’s cartoons, where the differnt characters are blowing each other up or are shooting each other in the face, but they always manage to survive and get right back up to commit more acts of vioelnce? Does this influence our children to think they can commit a violent act and there are no real negative consequences to it?
June 1st, 2007 at 6:40 pm
Mike,
I would like to do it, but I actually live in USA right now, and I go back to Egypt every two years.
Actually there is something I have to mention and I think I will have topic about it in my blog, where I will describe how people changed in Egypt for the worse, and what cause that to happen.
Last trip to Egypt was a lot of frustration to me, for so many reason, it will take me hours to explain how people changed and why.
The reason is not the Islam, in contrary the lack of Islam changed people a lot and make them scary even for me.
I’m seriously don’t know what to do to change people and turn them back to how they used to be, but in doing that, my family might be presecuted in Egypt, or I might be arrested as a spy if I went back to Egypt.
It’s really sad to say what I’m saying, but I really hate the governement in Egypt and I hate they way they turn the people into.
June 1st, 2007 at 8:47 pm
Mohamed you have mentioned you have a blog, where is it?
DO you know that when you are posting a comment, where there is a box that says next to it “Website” you can put the address of your website so that after posting your comment there will be a link to it and people can access it if they click on your name at the top of your comment.
Try it.
More importantly,, here is a three part analysis of the MEMRI and the Palistinian children’s program
http://alialarabicolumn.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-memeri-fooled-us-media.html
http://alialarabicolumn.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-on-mimris-forgery.html
http://alialarabicolumn.blogspot.com/2007/05/spin-and-deception.html
June 2nd, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Mike, Gasonmo
I posted a video in my blog, it’s the first video I edited, there is more to come, it’s really time consuming, but I really enjoy it. It’s not the only side of Egypt, There are a lot different sides of Egypt.
Check this link and you will find the video I’m talking about: http://egypt.terapad.com/
Please put your comment and tell me was it the same like you imagined or was it differnet
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:14 pm
Mohammed:
You think you hate your government? Try living in England, the ‘Cradle of Democracy’. Sorry, guy, but they’re all wankers. And nice advertising about the necklaces on the website. Not my style.
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:33 pm
Ronald Jones, thank you for the tip.
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 pm
There is no way to compare England to Egypt, people in Egypt has no value, it’s really frustrating.
June 4th, 2007 at 2:08 am
***To all those who are so worried about a couple of minutes of a television program, where is your concern about how Jewish settlers attack and harass Palestinians to prevent them from going to school?
When American volunteers escorted
Palestinians to school, some of the volunteers were brutally beaten and their bones were broken. See
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/December_2004/0412013.html
Where is the media attention and outcry over Jewish hatred and terrorism against the Palestinian children and the American activists?
June 4th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
I think if people saw what’s going on in Palestine, they will understand why this kind of show already exist.
June 14th, 2007 at 4:06 am
looks like i’m the only one here at the moment…..but anyway….
i dont think the translation is fully correct-and even if it is,it does not portray the thoughts if the majority of the muslims and palestinians for that matter!!!
i have a palestinian friend in my class whose grandparents live in gaza-how would it feel not beind able to go visit them or have them visit you- I think brother mohamed is right the tele can make people believe in strange things!:)
i feel really free as a feel exposed to both sides of the story considering the fact that i live in dar-es-asalaam, tanzaina(its in east africa by the way)
good to see people expressing their views so freely!
anyway- peace to all!
salaam alaykum!
fatema!
June 15th, 2007 at 4:15 am
hey fatima,
Living in Haifa-Israel I have quite another view on the matter.
June 15th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Agony,
Living in the United States, I can tell you that the vast majority of the mainstream media portrays the Israeli side sympathetically and often leaves out the negative stuff about Israelis. Meanwhile, the negative aspects of the Palestinians is emphasized, their side is hardly represented in the mainstrteam media.
June 15th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
RandalJones,
Well, they do get covered quite a lot on arabian channels(for example al-jazeera), so put the two together and tell me what you see.
To be frank: I see two children fighting and the next day arguing who started the last fight and getting into another fight, and so on and so on.
June 16th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Agony,
I am sure the Palestinian side gets presented on Arab Language TV. But unfortunately “might makes right” and regardless of what the Palestians do, if the United States and Israel don’t like how things are going, they will use their military might to disrupt things and create chaos.
Yo can find some sources in the West that presents the Palestian side, but they rarely get the mainstream media’s attention. See http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article7030.shtml
June 25th, 2007 at 2:49 am
Hi Agony.
I think I might be able to understand what you are saying- but I still feel the agony and pain the palestinians are feeling is being greatly understated everywhere(ie:media).
Considring the fact that you live in Israel- I Undertand that it might be more difficult to comprehend what they are going through.
Just wondering whether you have actually met a sincere palestinian and tried to excgange views with him/her. I guess that will be a different angle from which to look at the entire episode- if I can call it that.
Salaam Alaykum!
Peace to all!
Fatema!
June 28th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
And one more point I feel is worth mentioning,
even if you dont speak to a good palestinian- I still feel that the palestinians deserve alot more sympathy than the isrealis(mostly atleast). And I dont think you need to be a muslim nor have a degree in morality (that is if such a thing even exists-lol), I think a little humanity should suffice.
What do you think?????
Fatema!
June 28th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Hello fatema,
I do feel more sympathy for the Palestinians than the Israelis. Mostly I feel this because of current persecution they endure (though some of it is self-caused). I also have a lot of respect (even envy) of Israel as a vibrant democracy with an engaged citizenry, even though I disagree with some of their decisions.
Funny, I had some hesitation in writing the first part of that paragraph. I actually thought of the possible social repercussions of admitting as much in public. In the US, there seems to be a social taboo against saying anything that can be construed as anti-Israeli. Do any of my fellow Americans feel this pressure as well?
June 28th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
sidfaiwu,
Yeah, I feel that too. I think people want to make other people out to be as one-dimensional as possible. If I say I hate rap music, it must be because I hate Blacks. If I’m pro-choice, I must be pro-abortion as well. If I criticize the President, I must be a Democrat. If I am against current Israeli foreign policy I must be anti-Semitic.
In reality, I just don’t like rap that much. I liked earlier rap like NWA and Run DMC, but this new stuff is just boring and repetitive. I think in many cases abortion is not the correct choice, but I also believe you have a right to make that incorrect choice. I am a Republican, but I think that Bush and the next crop of candidates are not really Republicans (excluding Ron Paul — he’s the man). I believe that the States should be as autonomous as possible and the federal government as limited as possible, and that is the definition of Republican. All this crap about “morality” like gay rights (I’m for it), abortion rights (for it), and especially religion (I’m atheist) have nothing to do with wanting to run the country like a Republic. The patriot act, the out-of-control spending, the war, etc. were are very un-Republican moves. But now I’m just ranting.
I can abhor what Israel is doing on the global front without hating Jews.
And I think many of us can agree that it is possible to hate Christianity without hating Christians. Hate Islam without hating Muslims. Hate Scientology without hating Scientologists. And oddly enough, hate Linsday Lohan but still like the movie Mean Girls.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Sidfaiwu,
I agree with you about all what you are saying, I think you are one of the most objective people I see on this site, you know how to sperate your self from your emotion.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Doed IPhone has any thing to do with religion(just kidding), I’m just going to die if I read more news about IPhone(off topic), I feel like I’m not going to release heaven if I didn’t get one:)
I’m not getting one any way.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:56 am
@Fatema,
Sorry but unlike sid, I do not feel much sympathy for people who inflict damage on themselves(through ignorance, stupidity or any other means).
I have some distant relatives living in Gazza, so do you think that’s close enough?
June 30th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Sidfaiwu-
I do agree with you but I also fell that MAJORITY of the pain that the palestinians are suffering is NOT self-inflicted.
Unfortunatley this I feel is a difficult situation for them and it would have been fot us too, if we were in their situation- I feel you might agree with me.
I think you are among those people who want to know the truth, ulike quite alot of people. I do thereore respect and agree with your views too.
Fatema.
June 30th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
And Agony,
Its amazing to hear that you have palestinian relatives. I really cant say how YOU feel about them, I suppose it depends on how you take them(and I guess thats a question:))And as I said Most of their pain is not self-onflicted and even if it is I dont think its intentional- I mean it sounds like turning the heat on in a room where you’re practically burning to death!-I dont know thats my opinion, Whats yours?
Fatema.
June 30th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Fatema,
Sid is one of the really smart people in this site, I feel jelouse sometimes for how smart he is, I think there a few people like that here in this site, on the other side you have to face somebody exactly the opposite.
June 30th, 2007 at 11:35 pm
“Its amazing to hear that you have palestinian relatives. I really cant say how YOU feel about them, I suppose it depends on how you take them(and I guess thats a question:))”
Sorry, I dont understand the question.
“I mean it sounds like turning the heat on in a room where you’re practically burning to death!-I dont know thats my opinion, Whats yours?”
I think that’s what they were(and are still) doing. intentional or not.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:52 am
It seems as if Sidfaiwu is an intellectual force on this site except for the part where he agreed with Andrew on liking Mean Girls :P
July 1st, 2007 at 8:10 am
Thanks for the compliments, Mohamed and Bunnies4Buddha, it’s enough to make me blush (though if you want to see a real intellectual tour de force, ask Jagannath about the Bible). But you did make one error, Bunnies4Buddha, I’ve never even seen Mean Girls, much less know if I like it. Based on what I’ve heard about it, I would not.
Also, the only reason I may appear smart is because I try to only comment on stuff I know something about. For instance…
Fatema,
I honestly don’t know all of the Palestinians’ difficulties and cannot comment on how much of it is self-cause and how much of it is externally-caused. I do think that enough of it is externally caused to warrant my sympathies. I hope their lot improves soon.
July 17th, 2007 at 5:25 am
I’m a muslem. I felt really sad when I saw this but please be a little more objective and ask yourselves why do Arabians hate Israel. There is at least a member of each Palastenian family that have been killed by Israel army. Beleive me but These programs are not a reason of violence, it’s a result of it.
July 17th, 2007 at 8:16 am
Being a victim of violence does not justify advocating violence, Sally. I’m appalled by some of the actions of the Israeli army as anyone, but that doesn’t excuse teaching hatred to children.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
The plot thickens.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56699
November 7th, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Sally said, I’m a muslem. I felt really sad when I saw this but please be a little more objective and ask yourselves why do Arabians hate Israel. There is at least a member of each Palastenian family that have been killed by Israel army. Beleive me but These programs are not a reason of violence, it’s a result of it.
I had to repost her comment, because she is sincere about this. I find it sad that people take the innocence out of the liitle children. I look forward when our Father in heaven deals with these types of people who prevent the children from looking unto Christ Jesus. Remember what he said, suffer not the children to come unto me, better watch out for they will not enter the Kingdon of God.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:39 am
[...] Last year Palestinian children were introduced to Farfur, a Muslim abomination of Mickey Mouse that swore to annihilate the Jews. He was the hit character on the Hamas children’s show “Tomorrow’s Pioneers”. It was covered briefly on my site here. [...]
February 16th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
wrong translation
the girl said that the israili soldiors will shoot us
December 1st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
[...] in proportion to the world as a whole, what can we really do to stop it? Children are being indoctrinated with this stuff. I’m no expert but it seems a mighty [...]
December 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Q - How many muslims does it take to change a lightbulb?
A - None, they prefer to stay in the dark and blame the Jews.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
You have to agree with Rucker concerning the investigation he has done. i too have read those articles and was a bit confused. but i was reading it correctly and Rucker confirms that point on using children as shields.
In Luke 11 when He “The Messiah”(of the old & New is God) casting out demons and was accused of being one of them.
“But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth. But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.”
By this account based on the hearts and thoughts of Hamas and this video shows the true intent of their actions.
i praise God through His Son for the Muslim Christians that hold to the faith in the cross the blood that Our sins are forgiven by the unfailing love of Jesus Christ alone.
May 30th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
That video made me depressed
May 30th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Religion ‘ll do that to ya.