Here’s a little something that Jagannath sent to me and I thought I’d share it with all of you :)
1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Do not murder
4. Do not commit adultery
5. Do not steal
6. Do not give false testimony
7. Honor your father and mother
Today, a Christian, specifically a follower of Christ, confronted me as he quite often used that particular expression. He had heard me talk of the commandments on earlier time and this time he took his time to disagree with me in a shrill voice and flaring nostrils.
He kept disagreeing with me until the he was interrupted by the security who promptly escorted him out due his disruptive behavior. Apparently other clients of the establishment had made several complaints of his screaming and yelling, it scared the children. Truth to be told, I was not all that calm myself either as the word firebrand is quite apt in his case.
But his point could be easily condensed to two things, there are Ten Commandments in the bible and only those following them are followers of Christ. Now, my counter points were drowned by his antics but I decided to write about the commandments.
Now to me a follower of Christ is one who follows the New Testament. The Old Testament is mainly concerned of Judaism and of those that god decided to kill for one reason or another. That is the main point in my view of Christianity. You cannot follow both testaments but you have to choose or be merely religious groupie. You either follow the teachings of the Christ to be a so-called true Christian. You might disagree with the distinction, but as always it is your right.
Then to the actual commandments, the Old Testament versions are well known but those in need of a refreshment course can break open the book on Exodus 20:3-17. But are those Christian commandments or the commandments Jesus acknowledged?
I use the gospel by Matthew for references as it is most often used and frankly, the other gospels are quite alike, in a more terse form. So what is the first commandment by Jesus?
“‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ Jesus replied: ‘”Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.’”
-Matthew 22:36-40
So number one is total devotional love of God followed by love your fellow man. And those are to be the basis for all else. Jesus actually mentions the love your fellow man in more than one occasion so one can say he like that one more.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.”
-Matthew 5:43-45
“So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you.”
-Matthew 7:12
“Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself.”
-Matthew 19:19
Now the last one is other part of my reasoning for the number of commandments for Christians. It seems that Jesus followed only half of the commandments given by god, but such is the way with life, sons tend to want to improve upon the works of their fathers. Jesus told a man to keep the commandments to which the man promptly replied with a query, which? And the answer can be read above.
Clearly Jesus believed that they’re to be only five commandments worthy of following from the old set of ten. And I tend to agree, as those are good rules for all to follow, not killing, not committing adultery, not stealing, not lying and honoring parents are good rules. The one rule Jesus seemed to be quite insistent on, love your neighbor, is always a good one to follow. He was actually so insistent on that command that he even wanted Christians to love their enemies and pray for them.
So there is only seven commandments by Jesus and of those, two are by Jesus while the rest are by god but the laws of Jesus are, at least according to the man himself, the two most important laws of all. Noticeable difference being between the two sets of commandments that all the strict laws of god reverence are gone and replaced with voluntary desire to love god.
Maybe if those would be the commandments Christians would follow, I might not have so much trouble with them as I do love my seafood and rounded beard.
–Jagannath
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July 15th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
“I think that on the balance the moral influence of religion has been awful. With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil. But for good people to do evil, that takes religion.” -Steven Weinberg
December 3rd, 2007 at 6:52 pm
I find these comments interesting…
Internets Says:
Nick Vujicic, A Miracle of God?
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:28 am
Another disgruntled atheist who’s so jealous that someone with fewer resources than he has actually influencing more people than him…
Good luck on your noble quest, sir.(post 276)
Sid,”I refrained from responding to this recent gem for just that reason.”
(from internets comments ans Gasmonso article, on Nick Vujicic, A Miracle of God?
Rob,”Cleansing the world of idiocy with offensive posts on a website.”
*Gasmonso*, are you going to create one? “I could put my death threats in there as well ;)”
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:09 pm
I actually believe that having a section for those messages is useless as the hit-and-run trolls are just that, indirect flame-bait which has atrocious hit-miss ratios.
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:28 am
Well Sidfaiwu, I guess we could make a section called, “gasmonso Fan Site”. I could put my death threats in there as well ;)
gasmonso
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:26 am
I’d like to propose making a section on RF just for comments such as Rob’s. These nearly content-free comments are mostly aimed at insulting gasmonso and/or other commenters. Also, 90% of the time, the authors of such comments never return to read rebuttals thus responding is generally a waste of time. For example, I refrained from responding to this recent gem for just that reason.
What do you think we should call this section, if created?
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:12 am
Cleansing the world of idiocy with offensive posts on a website. That would make the world a much better place, especially when you compare this noble cause with missionaries who are actually carrying out humane work in developing countries. How insignificant.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Most of his posts are all too similar to the latest one, it is getting hard to differentiate between god-bot and jesus-bot.
November 21st, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Does anyone else find hyrocket’s last post completely unfathomable? I have to wonder if he was actually trying to say anything at all, or just wasting time at work.
November 21st, 2007 at 5:36 pm
you guys did a great job and a wondeful explaination. It is easy to stand where you stand and to me that is wonderful. I Do Believe in Jesus and that’s where we differ. I am grateful for all your post. i copied and pasted your post below and in them-to me i find the answer.
Art thou the Christ? tell us. ANd he said unto them, if I tell you, ye will not believe: And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go. Hereafter shall the SOn of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.(luke 22:67-69)
Then said Pilate to the chief priest to the people, I find no fault in this man Luke 23:4( you can say this about all killings in the name of God-christians killings- to the people i find no fault)
And when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceeding glad: for he was desirous to see him of a long season, because he had heard many things of him; and he [hoped] to have seen some miracle done by him. then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.
Pilate, examined him before you, have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse him. No, nor yet Herod. Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake to them.
But they cried, saying, Curcify him, crucify him.
(Jesus Christ foretells his resurrection in luke 18:31-33).
Guys, i just put these verses for it relates to what you posted- that’s all.
Michael,Jag,Sid,Irish,Jayman,Alcari & Simon,RRock,Simon,Katie, Bios and Gasmanso… Happy Thanksgiving, I hope you guys have a great day with your Family and friends!
can share this one verse with you in Luke 17:16 And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks ans he was a Samaritan… this is me:)
I don’t believeI don’t believeI don’t believeI don’t believeI don’t believeI don’t believeI don’t believe
The rest of this comment is just tossed out, you can not use the bible to prove anything. The bible itself is the object in question. I don’t believe THE Jesus ever existed as depicted in the bible. There may have been a Jesus, and there probably were many, but the events of his life in the bible are almost assuredly false. Can I start trying to make points to you by quoting from that most only of books: The Lord of the Rings?
YOUR psychopathic mass murderer in the sky.
They ARE inherently selfish, but that is the result of evolutionary pressures and biology. This behavior can be, and most often is, mitigated through upbringing. No, god is not how people become good people. Their parents teaching them right from wrong, within the context of the society they are a part of, is how it happens. God is not in any way required for this process. It just so happens that most people are still a bit superstitious and like to involve fairies and unicorns in their children’s upbringing.
I know I’m not a murderer, that sounds like a dangerous assumption to meBut religion just gives them another excuse
The law of man supercedes the law of god. If you disagree, go stone to death the next kid that disrespects his or her parents, and see what happens.
God people have a long history of dangerous assumptions, just look at the Salem witch burnings.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Your site is refreshing! I accidentally commented on your Feb. ‘07 post today and figured you probably wouldn’t find it. So to sum it up: Thanks for the Thanksgiving pic from Nov. ‘06(I think it will make a nice post for the weekend-I’m going to “borrow” it–save and re-post)
November 21st, 2007 at 1:33 pm
irishthunder:
The problem is, many god people believe that if you aren’t of their particular sect, then you ARE a non-believer.
God people have a long history of dangerous assumptions, just look at the Salem witch burnings. How many innocent women were horribly tortured and murdered in the name of the christian god? How about the Crusades? The Inquisition?
God people, are you tired of that coming up every time? Well stop glossing over it and admit that YOUR people have done some of the most horrific, despicable, and evil things in the name of YOUR psychopathic mass murderer in the sky.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:26 pm
I was the person that made the comment that you quoted. How does this in any way relate to what I said? The law of man supercedes the law of god. If you disagree, go stone to death the next kid that disrespects his or her parents, and see what happens.
Again, complete nonsense. Humans are not inherently wicked. They ARE inherently selfish, but that is the result of evolutionary pressures and biology. This behavior can be, and most often is, mitigated through upbringing. No, god is not how people become good people. Their parents teaching them right from wrong, within the context of the society they are a part of, is how it happens. God is not in any way required for this process. It just so happens that most people are still a bit superstitious and like to involve fairies and unicorns in their children’s upbringing.
The rest of this comment is just tossed out, you can not use the bible to prove anything. The bible itself is the object in question. I don’t believe THE Jesus ever existed as depicted in the bible. There may have been a Jesus, and there probably were many, but the events of his life in the bible are almost assuredly false. Can I start trying to make points to you by quoting from that most only of books: The Lord of the Rings?
November 21st, 2007 at 12:00 pm
So, I watched the clip and what was the idea?
Any believer of supernatural concept wants to turn you into one also?
November 21st, 2007 at 10:55 am
Hello hyrocket,
What a sad way to view your fellow people. Almost every person I’ve ever met is not wicked. Indeed, I find that most people are mostly good. When I do see wickedness, it’s often a product of circumstance, not some innate state of human wickedness.
I don’t think that was me. I don’t presume to know the worst thing to ever happen to humanity. I consider religion to be, on balance, bad for the human race, but not likely the worst.
The video you linked was cute, but irrelevant.
November 21st, 2007 at 7:16 am
It is funny how some people only remember that part, pharisees and scribes trying to get some dirt on Jesus but forget how the thing started.
Jesus was asked to dine with a pharisee who questioned why he did not wash as was customary before the meal. Jesus as any ‘polite person of religious bend’ started to insult his host and even other people present. He even went on calling them fools in contrary to his own teachings in the Matthew 5:22
The conversation most likely got somewhat heated after that (thirteen verses of insults) but yet no one seems to see nothing wrong with the actions of Jesus? Who would not get annoyed over people who start to insult you after you called them to a dinner?
What is a man who accuses others of hypocrisy while being guilty of the same act? A Politician or a religious leader?
November 21st, 2007 at 2:57 am
“Here is a good example of religious people and not religious, in Luke 11:53-54 they want to catch Jesus in his talking, so they can bring charges against him and put him to death.”
Actually, it wasn’t “not religious” people who supposedly conspired to and eventually killed Jesus, it was followers of the pharisaic sect of judaism. I’m sure the “non-believers” of that time probably didn’t care what yet another whackjob was spouting on about.
“everyone is a killer with or without religion.”
I know I’m not a murderer, that sounds like a dangerous assumption to meBut religion just gives them another excuse.
November 20th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Jayman “I stand by my argument, and most of the god people that post on here stand as proof, that religion is not only the worst thing to ever happen to the human race, but will also be its ultimate downfall.”
I find your comment interesting. When i drove in this morning, i saw people in front of a building lining up to go into a ferderal court of law. people lining up to see a federal judge, for what? that’s the question.
Sid, people are wicked and they use religion for their wicked ways. on the other you say that no religion is also the worst thing that ever happened to human race, but will also be its ultimate downfall. everyone is a killer with or without religion. the lies in human will be the ultimate down fall.
Here is a good example of religious people and not religious, in Luke 11:53-54 they want to catch Jesus in his talking, so they can bring charges against him and put him to death.
And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.
Sid, check this video clip, reminds of what you just said and want to do.
Sid, don’t buy into a lie or a lie down the street or buy a lie in a dark ally.
sorry, that’s the chatbot in me… hahaha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tXsO35TQ-0&NR=1
November 20th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
“I stand by my argument, and most of the god people that post on here stand as proof, that religion is not only the worst thing to ever happen to the human race, but will also be its ultimate downfall.”
i agree wholeheartedly (and also with the rest of your post)
in this age where we are so utterly capable of inflicting mass death, religion (with all of its championing of genocidal slaughter!) is too great a risk to be ignored or even tolerated.
while im not advocating the banning of religion or anything similar (cos not only would it not happen, but surely it wouldnt have the desired effect anyway) i think that religion needs to be regularly submitted to attack on all fronts.
and yeah, i daresay you could classify me as a humanist…
November 20th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Alcari, you are right, i’ll just hyrocket, not to get confused with Michael, for he has been here long before me.
welcome mt world Michael… hahaha!
November 20th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
alcari Says:
Just to get this straight..
“micheal hyrocket” = “hyrocket” =/= “Micheal”???
I think you are questioning whether I am “Michael Hyrocket /hyrocket”, and the answer is an “oh my GOD, no”. I have been posting on here quite a while with just my first name. In retrospect I guess that was a bad idea. I am a semi-militant atheist, not quite up to the levels of Blasphemaster, but no one is perfect! :)
November 20th, 2007 at 11:09 am
Just to get this straight..
“micheal hyrocket” = “hyrocket” =/= “Micheal”???
November 20th, 2007 at 10:12 am
Hey Jayman, how about you quit pussyfooting around and tell us how you really feel? :)
I stand by my argument, and most of the god people that post on here stand as proof, that religion is not only the worst thing to ever happen to the human race, but will also be its ultimate downfall. If we wish to continue as a species, we MUST throw off the yoke of religion and learn to be good people, not because some invisible psychotic mass murderer in the sky will punish us, but because it is just the right thing. Empathy.
Humanism is the way forward, religion is a barbaric throwback to the bad old days. Throw away your chicken feet, bibles and holy water (god, I laugh at that every time), pull up your big boy pants. Its time the human race grew the hell up and tossed out the binky.
November 19th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
whatever bocah
yeah, jesus lovers can go fuck off and die.
but then to be fair, same goes for all the dicks who think muhummad was a cool guy
i mean for fucks sake, he was a violent, genocidal wife beating paedophile who married a 9 year old.
islam can eat as much dick as christianity ~ religion of peace my arse!
November 16th, 2007 at 9:08 am
I have authorship privileges, but not publishing privileges. So I could submit stories directly, but gasmonso is the only one who can publish them as far as I know.
November 16th, 2007 at 7:50 am
bocah Says:
Jag is a brother? he makes it sound like he is one. whats a yahudi?
Jag welcome to our world, brother.
November 16th, 2007 at 4:25 am
Fuck the jesus….
you’re idiot!!!
if your agree with your “The Seven Commandments According To Jesus Christ”
why america always distrubing other country??! keeping kill inocent people??
where’s the commandments “3. Do not murder”????!
fuck you…!!
fuck the jesus..!!!!!! -anjing sia,,,goblok..-
fuck the america!!!!!!!!!!!!
fuck the yahudi!!! they must be die….!!!!
November 15th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Hasnt Sid entered stories on here before? or had he just given them to Gasmonso?