Comments on: Sherri Shepherd Shares Her Religious Wisdom

By: acptulsa

acptulsa — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:18:52 +0000

I’m inclined to think of good teachers as the owner’s manual for the brain. I have had the good fortune to have parents and teachers who did more than try to shove facts and junk into me, and those who didn’t. The good ones taught me how to find knowledge I didn’t have on hand, even when they did and could have just spoon fed me. It was irritating at the time, but so is teething. Nonetheless, teething is worth the irritation, isn’t it? So much better than a liquid diet. Likewise, the ability to seek out knowledge and reason out conclusions are mental muscles I now can’t imagine living without.
Can’t be taught? Puh-lease, Shaze.
The interesting thing to me is that so many religious zealots are afraid of people who are capable of these things. Sorry, but if your sect can’t stand the light of reason, it deserves no loyalty. With all due respect to the athiests, I do believe that reason and belief in an intelligent designer aren’t incompatible. The more we learn about all of creation, the more awe it inspires. So, where is the advantage to God in these religious hucksters keeping people ignorant? The advantage seems to be theirs, not God’s.

By: alcari

alcari — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:30:52 +0000

they’re like walking, talking Markov generators.

By: irishthunder

irishthunder — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:24:47 +0000

thanks Mr. Anderson, for once again proving religious freaks have the ability to piece together words and phrases, but not necessarily into anything that makes sense.

By: Mr Anderson

Mr Anderson — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:39:26 +0000

Oh that the salvation of Israel [were come] out of Zion! When God bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, [and] Israel shall be glad.

FREE THE CHILDREN OF PALESTINE, FROM THE BONDAGE OF HEZBOLLAH AND LET THEM REJOICE IN ZION…

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1625.htm

By: irishthunder

irishthunder — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:16:42 +0000

But it’s a hell of a lot easier to indoctrinate children into believing whatever insane ideas you want if you don’t have an outside force(like an educational system) contradicting everything.

“which my friends leads me back to God. this is ingrained in our dna as Sid mentions somewhere here.”

Are you saying that religion is in our genes? If thats true then i guess im the next step in evolution.

By: hyrocket

hyrocket — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:43:57 +0000

Indoctrination can come(to me) in any type of learning you would introduce a person. this would all depend on the individuals involved, you must have some sort of structure in what is to be taught, free thinking or not.

you guys want a good system of education would freely offer information in a variety of ways.

this information has to come from someone who is indoctrinated in some form of their belief system in which they where taught, which my friends leads me back to God. this is ingrained in our dna as Sid mentions somewhere here.

By: irishthunder

irishthunder — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:25:49 +0000

hyrocket, if the parents are logical and open-minded home-schooling can be great(I’ll keep it as an option when i have kids). The problem is a lot of parents who home-school are complete idiots and just want to indoctrinate their kids without the distractions of “science” or “logic”.

By: hyrocket

hyrocket — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:41:53 +0000

No one has mentioned home schooling. education can be done in a varity of ways like you guys mention. I know of a christian family who does this type of education in the home.
In this type of education system you get ALL(organized, free-thinking, independent, exploration) what you mentioning here , but you guys left out the most important part of this learning,

in Proverbs 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

True Understanding-True Knowledge, my friend…

can i show you how to get this?

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge

So, i feel that home school is one answer to this freely open learning system you are talking about.
at the cross, our sins are forgiven(repent) if you accept this offer of salvation for eternal life in our Lord and Saviour Chris Jesus.

“but a good system of education would freely offer information in a variety of ways.”

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:13 +0000

Shaze: I’m going to pretend to ignore that you find something so ridiculous as an insult, while I laugh hysterically about it. I mean, really. You really found that to be an insult? What are you, some wierd PC whine at everything someone says weenie? Now, that is an insult. And if you were really insulted by the previous comment, then well deserved. And, if so, grow a pair and be a man. Or woman. Whatever.

Anyway, onto your point. Not really much to say, except I disagree with just about every single aspect of your post. And, my guess is so does most everyone else in the world. Granted, that does not necessarily mean you are wrong. After all, I disbelieve in the existence of god, and most of the people in the world disagree with me. I just think your point is a little more based in the real word and much more easily disproved.

Take a child, fresh out of the womb, and dumped on the closest deserted isle. If it were to some how be able to survive to adulthood, how deeply do you think it would be able to think? It wouldn’t have language, communication skills, it would be an animal. We learn the skills to do these things, and yes, THINK, or to NOT THINK, from others. We are taught it. Not so much in school, but before that. When we are 1 year old. Or two years old. THIS is when we are taught to think. Either for ourselves or via church pulpit. Of COURSE there is required a desire to do it, otherwise they wont. But, a teacher CAN teach a person to think for themselves, and can give them the tools to do it where they wouldn’t have it otherwise, if they only had contact with their little church group.

In other words, I completely and utterly disagree with your point, in its entirety. Teachers CAN make a difference. Unfortunately, they are bound by the fledgeling church state that America is becoming. They are also bound by the government in public schools who ALSO don’t want people thinking for themselves. They want them to be dependant on the goverment for everything, so they can be easily controlled. And their plan is working very well.

By: Arya

Arya — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:41:27 +0000

If we’re going to ban stupid people from talking,who are we going to laught at?!:D