arnoub,

why do you think i am a terrorist? the fact that i believe israel have occupied islamic land unfairly makes me a terrorist?

i hate to admit it, but just like any other religion or society for that matter, there are many corrupt muslims who are more than just extremists.

i am going to stop posting on this website because peopel are so ignorant as to stereotype as well as label me without justification.

1) i respect and value every individual regardless of religion or faith.

2) i believe in allah as my one and only all-powerful and all-merciful God and creator

3)i believe in muhammed as the final messenger and prophet of allah (swt)

4) i follow the sunnah of muhammed and believe the holy quran is the word of allah. the holy quran has many verses that can be interpreted differently and theerfroe there is confusion as to what the ayas actually mean..

5) i believe in ali ibn abi talib as the rightful caliph and therefore am of his hsia. anyonwone willing to tell me why they believe he isnt go ahead because the evidence comes from the sunni books as well as ours.

i have my own opinions. i use islam as a way of life and a guidline but that does not stop me making concious decisionsa nd opinions.

@ agony

we meet again my good freind :)

you are a clever guy if i remember from our previous debates. for someone to make an islamic judgement there are four main sources to do so:

1) al-aql- the mind/brain
we must use our brains to use logic and rational.

2) sunnat muhammed- hadith can be used as well. however, it is not sufficient to simply state a hadith without acknowleding the narrator. many hadiths were lies and many weer from an untrusworthy narrator and were altered along the chain of narration

3) the holy quran, the word of allah. but the holy quran covers only the main aspects. for examplr, it is not stated in the quran how many times we must pray. it is said that prayer is a timed ordinace for the believrs but not how often we must pray for example.

4) ijma3, other scholers and peopel who have studied religion come together and discuss. they are another source.

as for the shia, we follow the 12 imams as role models. as they are the desendents of muhammed they were capable of interpreting the quran correctly at the time.

may god bless you all…. i might stop posting here for a short while, becasue i got exams coming up and need to do some work…

ill be bak soon thou :)

Just saw that you’re debating the accuracy of the translation and wanted to add my 2 cents:

The translation is quite accurate, and if I remember correctly the translation of the moslem mickey mouse was accurate as well.

Muslim Boy:

Please remind me where it says in the quran that someone who does not know about islam will be judged according to his knowledge? The ayah I recall goes something like this “Alla’s religion is the Islam therefore the (good) deeds of those who follow other religions will not be accepted and they will have lost”. Go read your religion instead of posting your own version of Islam here.

I am curious, why would atheists be interested of the debate between theists about who has the biggest skycrane?

As far as the link, I’ve seen far more informative and spirited debates(look for ones with Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens).

I must tell you people, please turn from your ways and stop the killing your own people.

They have different cultures in Arab countries but what is the key, what is the key of the worship muslim boy?! who is the one you worship too?!
do you not all worship Allah, yet you kill(blow-up) the people that Allah loves?!

Allah willing?! i am not a assud but a believer in the Truth in His WORD!

Muslim boy, will you be in paradise for sure? i can show you and the love that is in his son will be in your heart for the sinners we are.

@sid

i personaly think that u can be pious and be a non-muslim. i think piety comes from firm belief in god, for surely that is the very fundemental thing in islam. but you will be judged according to your knowledge. if you were unaware of muhammed (s) prophecy then you will be treated differently from someone who does. my lord is the best of judges. i feel so proud knowing afer i die there is another place i will go.

we must use the prophets as examples. surely muhammed was sinless, even i comit sins and i must beg my all merciful lord for forgivness and i must repent. religion is a complicated thing, but id be guided than wonder confused and just critisising. what most ppl are doing is labelling islam fromwhat they see in the media. true islam is not killing of innocent ppl for ur information mr/mrs irishthunder. infact the imams of the shia were opressed for doing the right thing. ali ibn abi talib’s calipha was stolen but still he sets such a great example for mankind.

athiests please, check out this link, its a debate between two theists. prof.hasanain rajabali and michael corey and dan barker and richard carrier :)

http://www.shiasource.com/community/community_events/1/

may god have mercy upon us all, on the day of judgement may the prophet and the imams be a shafi3 for us and let us be forgived for the sins which we comit.

No, hopefully you’ll all just kill each other off so we don’t have to worry about it.