America’s Christians are under attack by Godless sodomites (that’s you and me if you didn’t know.) We (the Godless sodomites) are silencing Christians at an astounding rate in order to achieve our one true goal… pushing the gay agenda!
How they uncovered our plans I have no idea! But we must stay strong and focus on our mission… pushing the gay agenda!
It will be difficult, as the Christians have struck back with a valuable, honest, and insightful TV series that exposes the reality of America’s anti-Christian bias and urges believers to put an end to the silence!
The series premiered March 1 and will air 13 episodes on the Inspiration Network. Luckily for us we don’t need to have the Inspirational Network because the episodes are available on the web at here.
Here’s a little teaser trailer to get your blood pumping…
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April 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
evrytinsane Says:
Lovely Says:
Inspiredwriter Says:
Miss. Love Says:
Just curious, why did you not just write all that in one post?
April 16th, 2009 at 8:25 am
“Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12″
Once again a false statement. People used to understand that stuff. I do and I’m only 15. I was explaining them to people at Lakotah when I was in second grade.
You don’t understan because you don’t want to “notinsane…”.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:20 am
And we christians are soooo not speechless.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:18 am
One more thing for notinsane….
YOur last post is true?
Not it’s not!
Prove it.
Your taking the bible out of context.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Sorry but you guys are a buch of bull crap. How the heck does evil apply to the bible notinsane…? What is soo bad about it?
I’m christian and I dont’ jump around say “Prasie the lord.” or anything like that. We haven’t done anything the the you people. I don’t even hate gay people and I’m a christian (I’m nondenominational).
It’s not like we’re out to get non believers. Many of my friends don’t believe in God. Who cares ifsome of us don’t like homosexuals…we aren’t the only ones. Most of the non-gay no believers I know hate Homos.
Lay off! What have we ever done to you?
Ttyl
March 13th, 2009 at 4:24 am
dont worry Jag, your not alone, I hear ya in more ways than you know. Hyrocket means well but the road to insanity, is paved with religion… in all forms. Go to http://www.evilbible.com to educate yourself in all you want to know Jag.
Most Christians choose what they want to belive… here is a little look at Jesus, and no worries to christains if u read this im sure u wont go to hell becuase it doesnt exist. anyway get your bibles and follow along your all in for a treat ;)
Jesus literally Advocate child abuse and murder amongst many other cruelties.
Christians are always claiming, “he’s the lamb”, “our savior”, “the king of peace”, “the embodiment of love”, amongst the many other names they associate with a loving, merciful nature. Jesus a nice guy? Not in my book. Nor in any other person’s who is capable of compassion and rationality. Let’s examine who the hell the Jesus character really is. These verses will show not only is Jesus’ “loving” nature a joke but so are the Christians who worship him. Jesus’ real mission to come to earth:
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with Death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. Matthew 10:34
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” Matthew 10:21
Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Matthew 5:17
Jesus advocates murder and death:
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. Matthew 11:20
Jesus, whose clothes are dipped in blood, has a sharp sword sticking out of his mouth. Thus attired, he treads the winepress of the wrath of God. (The winepress is the actual press that humans shall be put into so that we may be ground up.) Revelations 19:13-15
The beast and the false prophet are cast alive into a lake of fire. The rest of us the unchosen will be killed with the sword of Jesus. “An all the fowls were filled with their flesh.” Revelations 19:20-21
Jesus says he is the only way to salvation yet he purposely disillusions us so that we will go to hell:
Jesus explains that the reason he speaks in parables is so that no one will understand him, “lest . . . they . . . should understand . . . and should be converted, and I should heal them.” Matthew 13:10-15
Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12
Jesus advocates child abuse:
Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Matthew 15:4-7
Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he’ll give your a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, it’s called neglect, pure and simple. Matthew 19:29
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9
A few other things about Jesus:
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. Mark 4:25
Jesus sends the devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. Clearly Jesus could have simply sent the devils out, yet he chose instead to place them into pigs and kill them. This is called animal abuse. Mark 5:12-13
Jesus kills a fig tree for not bearing figs, even though it was out of season. Jesus must not be as smart as Christians would have us believe, for he was retarded enough to do something this silly. You’d think the son of god (god incarnate) would know that trees don’t bear fruit in dry season. Mark 11:13
Luke 12:47 Jesus okays beating slaves.
March 11th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Hey Jag, i just want to thank you for post #221 and #242. It means a lot to me and just wanted to say that your real special in my book(for what it’s worth).
In #221 you said “Shooting fish in the barrel is only fun if you are stupid enough.”
You see, i have done this(therefore was stupid) But now I shoot for Jesus Christ and He is the one that came to save us from our sins.
“God demonstrated His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8).
“God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved” (John 3:16-17).
Everyone needs compassion and everyone needs forgiveness. I hope what i am about to post is comprehensible in such a big head like yours(complement)
You said in Post 221, “is interested of old priestly code which people like New one probably only cherry picking and not following all other rules written in leviticus. Like the following and that is merely a very short example of the lunacy in leviticus. If you try to present it all for normal people when it was rulebook for priests you get all this love christians keep claiming of.”
I love what you wrote and even though this maybe old is still in practice today with circular thinkers or governments. A good example is your Post #242 concerning China- the sad thing about this is that the Chinese Gov. still uses such practices to my brothers and sisters because they believe in the ONE that came to save sinners yet you apply the Leviticus to us(much appreciated) but you must remember that it is from the old testament(i want to give you some verses that should speak volumes concerning Leviticus). You must ask yourself why was Leviticus given to Gods people? can we agree that it was for holy living, a set of rules for governing His chosen people. These laws were for these people at that time in history.
Now on post #242
You said,”They had philosophy which requires one to self analyze world and you want to replace all that with mass produced christianity with quality control which makes dung beetle to seem suitable master artisan for skyscrapers with submission to imaginary power which self states ‘give ceasar what is ceasars’.”
Jag, this statement(post 242) you just made, answers its self. You just gave a new testament verse which is found in it’s context say’s in Luke 20:24-25 Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar’s. And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.
By the proclamation of my Saviour Jesus, I admit that Yes, I(my personal belief) do want a “mass produced christianity with quality control” that focuses on the spiritual side and eternal life on what Jesus just said “Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.” The things belong to the gov. but the people belong to God and no one but they themselves choose to be things or people of God.
I want freedom for ALL Chinese people and the freedom to believe in the spaghetti thing if they choose.
Jag you said, “Should I repent myself because you have claimed there are rules I should follow when your brethren flagrantly break against the rules?”
Jag, i say repent and what does it matter? Eternal life my friend see beyond the things you see now. What you see now is nothing compared to the love Jesus has for you. Why look to brethren for understanding- like you said they will fail you but look to Jesus -alone! You will find true understanding and wisdom that passes all brethren or anyone that does not believe.
So what than, if a brethren continues in his hypocrisy- should we just turn away from Jesus?! and in turn become just like them, no man.
Join me Jag and let us correct the injustices that you are burden of and see the grace of God as His Son is crucified- willingly taking our sins and make us holy in our Fathers presence.
Jag, Jesus came to save and replace the laws with His agape love for the human race-His people. If you want to see this love in action read John 8…
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
(they refer to the same laws you just mentioned Jag)This they said, tempting him that they might have to accuse him.
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee. She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Shorthand answers
Bara; multiple translations, unproven abstract linguistic concept, using archaic semitic word as having one set meaning (cf. Quranic translations), Georges Lemaîtres (catholic priest) hypothesis, creating alternate meaning using modern day knowledge, assumption of the nature and form of ‘primeval atom’
Bible and Thermodynamics; opposing verses for eternal and non-eternal earth in the bible, Lament of the stricken with translational variance, Romans having multiple interpretations by christians, Verification of isolated universe?, dark matter constraining expansion of galaxies, heat death hypothesis, creating alternate meaning using modern day knowledge, Eschatological wet dream, assuming that current mathematical formulas remain constant in all situations (cf.Newton’s theory of gravitation vs. general relativity), dark flow
Prophecy of Perry; Will quote scripture, will proclaim love, will pray, will use circular logic (cf.Hyrocket).
March 10th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Hello all, sorry I know its been a while, things have been busy. I’m sure you have missed me!
Jag, Jag, Jag, I see you’re up to the same old things. Did you even read that passage of scripture (2 Kings 8:12)?
2 Kings 8:11-13 “And he settled his countenance stedfastly, until he was ashamed: and the man of God wept. And Hazael said, why weepeth my lord? And he answered, Because I know the evil that thou wilt do unto the children of Israel: their strong holds wilt thou set on fire, and their young men wilt thou slay with the sword, and wilt dash their children, and rip up their women with child. And Hazael said, But what, is thy servant a dog, that he should do this great thing? And Elisha answered, The Lord hath shewed me that thou shalt be king over Syria.”
See, God wasn’t telling anyone to do that, but Elisha was saying that he knew that that’s what Hazael would do. It makes a little more sense when you get it all and not just a few words.
Anyways, just because I haven’t posted in a while don’t start to think that I have forgotten or given up on you all. I have still been praying for you all each and every day. Also, Sunday morning and night service I asked the church to pray for you all as well. I love all of you but God loves you more!
THE KING IS COMING!!!
March 8th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
There are many creation stories that have also feature the same beginning. Christianity hasn’t anything unique to it. The sooner you realize this the sooner you can start to be rehabilitated from your ignorance.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The Hebrew word for “created” (”bara”) means a “creation from nothing,” as something is brought into existence. A start from nothing, is a very good description of what cosmologists (such as Stephen Hawking) call a “singularity,” which is the starting-point of the universe.A singularity is: all the potential mass (matter), energy, and dimensions (including time) of the cosmos, reduced down to an infinitely small point of ZERO volume. This same concept is brought out again in Hebrews 11:3 which declares that “the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.” The original starting-point for the universe was invisible, and had zero volume –just as the Bible teaches.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I missed that one Korgan. After reading his post I felt like I got a peak up Angelina Jolie’s dress and saw a penis. That’s really the best way to describe the utter shock and dismay at such a collection of G.C.E.s.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
MarcDLS, I also have to add that new one actually scores 5 bonus points on the Holy Smoke Creationist Claptrap Scale, for trying to cite incredibly vague biblical snippets as having any support in the subtleties of thermodynamics.
We seem to be getting a lot of fodder for that fine site these days.
Religion is ridiculous.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I am confused newone, are you trying to disprove bible? I thought your view was that it is inerrant word of god?
March 8th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
G.C.E. = Gross Concept Error
This describes all of post 243. Firstly, the laws of thermodynamics describe closed systems. Secondly, any fool can note that things wear out. That does not imply they know anything about thermodynamics. Thirdly, it will take trillions upon trillions of years for all the fuel in the universe to be used up, not something we will ever have to worry about if people like you don’t fall by the wayside.
March 8th, 2009 at 11:58 am
The Law of Increasing Entropy
It has been established that in all physical processes, every ordered system tends over time to become more disorganized, and also to lose energy in the form of heat, and to slow down; —everything gets old and wears out, or runs down. This increasing randomness, disorder, and cooling is called “Entropy,” and this situation is described in physics by the “Second Law of Thermodynamics.”
We see this principle expressed in the Bible (in about 1000 BC), when it says (concerning God): “In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded. But you remain the same, and your years will never end” (Psalm 102:25-27).
We know that if the stars in the heavens get very old, they will all burn out, and they will all undergo “heat-death” until everything in the universe cools off to the same temperature. —In the first century AD, the apostle Paul brings out the same idea when he writes, “For the creation was subjected to frustration …in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay…” (Romans 8:20-21).
So, the Bible accurately describes the modern Law of increasing Entropy, as the entire material universe relentlessly runs down and loses available usable energy, in a process of “decay.”
March 7th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Hyrocket,
Lets get this straight, you claim that your version of scriptures is the truth which Chinese people has to have or their life will be devoid of happiness and they wither away like old reeds and be blown away like chaff? Newsflash, Chinese had culture before there were any christians. They had philosophy which requires one to self analyze world and you want to replace all that with mass produced christianity with quality control which makes dung beetle to seem suitable master artisan for skyscrapers with submission to imaginary power which self states ‘give ceasar what is ceasars’.
Where do you get that idea that Chinese government would lie to them about christianity? What do you know of living in a land which has never had even one democratic government? Do you seriously believe that changing the governmental system just to appease christians would bring about new era of prosperity to china or to say, iraq? If you disagree with the governmental system of another nation, that is your opinion but can you prove the people are desperately wanting to be governed in a fashion made famous by the Bush, self-proclaimed religious man who found god from the bottom of the bottle? Can you prove life would get better under totally opposite governmental system just because you have a personal relationship with copycat god image?
But as always christians disobey the laws of the land, the laws of their own teachings and then cry foul when officials representing the law in the land make them to pay the piper. You see no problem with breaking the law and then your brethren claim that atheist and nonbelievers deny god only to be able to sin.
Love thy neighbour should be one of the rules for christians but in practice it is love thy neighbour who is agreeing with my worldview.
In china you can be a christian, churches which apply for a permit and register are allowed to be without trouble from the government. If there is any trouble with other religious groupings, well it is very common for christians to barge in where no one wants them and to start braying about what one cannot do, even if life was stable and peaceful without christianity and will not be after the cross wielding mind thugs appear on the scene.
And about that repenting, Repent what? Being decent fellow to my neighbours? For not judging people based on archaic rule set which does not even agree with itself nor with the followers of the book, just read what bible say about abortion, for example and compare that with the view christians have on abortion. The biggest abortionist and advocate of infanticide in the bible is god.
Should I repent myself because you have claimed there are rules I should follow when your brethren flagrantly break against the rules? Rules I have never agreed to follow. You re seriously making a claim that because a religious group exists and has some regulation I am to repent and start to follow it? If so, when are you going to start to pray towards mecca, five times a day?
Prove the existence of any supernatural entity and I admit that there is a possibility there could be an entity resembling your depiction of a loving (2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child.) god.
March 6th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
marcdls.87 mins. to respond ..mental acuity and asinine scripture is the bait you’re using for me to join in.oh for the mechanic..I got 1 word for u…Einstein.
March 6th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Just to state the obvious:
New one, if you had the mental acuity to add to the debate rather than posting asinine scripture and trying to flame someone who is supposedly on the same team as you then you would have done that by now. Since you haven’t, I will assume you lack such things and anyone reading can disregard you.
March 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
well just browsing, mmmmmm…. aubbie, applaud my so called heavy hitting…i’m gone for a few other threads and you cower..post 236…I’ll leave you to the sharks.as for this thread…old..later!
March 6th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Paige,re your post 226, and re a “crusade against Christ”, oh, how the irony continues in this thread. (Rather appropriate, given the title, as Jag and MarcDLS have noted.)
The Crusades are actually a wonderful example of horrible Christian nastiness, and of violent religions at war. It would appear that history was not the subject that you have been studying in school, or else you are in denial again, much as you are in regard to the evidence against creationism.
Furthermore, there isn’t any need to spend a “life on trying to disprove religion.” The evidence against Christianity is obvious and plentiful, and it takes very little time to disprove Christian dogma. The fossil record and the attributes of our bodies are fine examples of such evidence, per earlier posts. What takes more time and effort is convincing those deluded by religion to leave their delusions behind. However, any success there makes the effort worthwhile. My efforts and those of others here are not undertaken without hope; many of the posters here have successfully moved past the religious delusions of their childhood. Monikers such as “Recovered Catholic” come to mind. There is even hope that you, too, can be cured of your religion.
For your convenience, some of the earlier posts that you were involved in are here. Still think that there are no homosexual animals, or are you past that nonsense now?
Religion is ridiculous.
March 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
The first step to changing your circumstances is to change you attitude. Religion does that for people who can’t do it for themselves. Through a belief in a god, guardian angel, ancestor, or spirit that work for our benefit one begins to look at positive experiences as being a gift for them and negative experiences as something said over looker didn’t want want for them through superior wisdom and/or knowledge. Instead of taking it harshly they accept it as divine providence. You see, if an individual takes their life choices upon themselves they have only themselves to hold responsible for failure. Many aren’t strong enough to accept this and instead turn to religion for the support they can’t provide themselves. You see, your life didn’t really change, but you perception of the events changed. Through said change in perception your attitude change, and finally your circumstance. A curmudgeon and an optimist will react differently to the same stimuli. Based on their reaction each will get a different result from the same stimuli, and with said reaction each will result with a different life path.
March 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
MarcDLS,if self help books and therapists didn’t help, does that mean sometime in my life I would have turned it around myself as long as I kept trying to do so? Is it just circumstance that my life changed at the same time I asked GOD to change it? And as a side note, I’m sure you guys and gals have figured out long ago I am not, and nor pretend to be, on the same level of playing field you are on, but I do enjoy the debates. I am curious to see how people think and reason and believe. That is why I’m still here. I appreciate you being easy on me, I know you have been. And I do agree with you, my religion does teach what the right choice is.
March 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Ever heard of confirmation bias? Religion gave you the excuse, “GOD,” to imbue supernatural meaning behind natural events. It is the one thing therapists and self-help books can’t give you, true. But it doesn’t make it real and it doesn’t make it true.
As far as right and wrong, religion teaches you what the right choice is, not how to make it.
March 6th, 2009 at 10:34 am
We are all taught the difference between right and wrong, and how to make decisions whether it be from parents,pastors friends,teachers etc.We learn as we grow, spiritually, intellectually,we come to make decisions(life altering) based on what we learn in our lives. I, try my hardest, to make decisions based on my understanding of the word, lets say for example I make a decision based on emotion instead of a decision based on what is right, it might cause me to say or do something I don’t mean. For example, being sarcastic on this site, I don’t need to be, but at times i feel belittled, and so I do according to my emotion.Is that decision going to have a lasting impact on my life? Probably not, is it the right thing to do? No. The right thing to do would be to ignore it and not be spiteful. For a more drastic example,there have been murders, crimes of passion, because people have become filled with rage and anger, and act on their emotions. I pray for understanding of the Lords word, and for him to guide me in decisions that effect my life, thus far, GOD has held true to his word. No other self help book or physiologist has brought me up from where I used to be. I did them all, nothing changed my life, until I hit my knees and asked GOD to help me.
March 6th, 2009 at 10:11 am
On many issues regarding religion and the holy books I have found that what is obvious and understandable to a nonbeliever is obscure and incomprehensible for a believer and vice a versa on other issues. To us a headline like this
is anathema and a clear example of the dangers of religion and religious views.
To some believers the abortion is the evil thing to rave against while they quibble away the reason for true outrage, the words alleged, rape and 9-year-old.
One should not need to read those in same sentence but regardless of the life threatening status of the child there are religious people saying that she should have carried the pregnancy through.
So, now one can expect the catholics are not true christians claims, but as MarcDLS put it one cannot disassociate oneself from the origins of ones religion.
Also the ‘follow the teachings, not feelings’ line is actually merely a presentation of the basic tenet of christianity, submission.
March 6th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Aubbie, don’t try and disassociate your Christianity from those before you. The tortured and killed because they believed that is that God wanted them to do just as much and you believe he doesn’t. Seems if your “giant sky fairy” (thank you Isis) really existed he would have made his intentions known a bit sooner than never. Those atrocities were committed with complete and total justification by scripture as they interpreted it in their time.
If you truly believe they are not really Christians because they didn’t interpret the scriptures the same way you do, you much admit that you aren’t either since you are a couple millennium removed from the time and culture that they were originally written in. Therefore, it is impossible for you to interpret them correctly since you don’t have the cultural or linguistic means by which to understand them.
March 6th, 2009 at 9:29 am
“the follower should make his decision based on that teaching, not on his own feeling. We should not be led to make decisions based on emotions. Doing the right thing and doing what we,as an individual, think is right are totally different”
Aubbie, do you really believe that? How are you to grow as a person, if you make no decisions for yourself? Of course we should make decisions based on emotions, its called being alive. Thats sad,……sorry glaringly obv. again…
March 6th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Hey,
Jag, of course you’re right, its just too easy, not worth it!! It all just makes me so mad. Many people claim to live by the bible, but only the bits they want, they pick and choose to fit it to whatever they want but gloss over the rest…The OT is just a freakin bloodbath, it amazes me that anyone with knowledge of it would say “hey, this god guy seems cool, lets go for it!” …? crazy!
Must restrain myself from pointing out the glaringly obvious in future!!:)
March 6th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Rucker, you’ve never sinned..well I guess I’ll take your word for it based on good faith…. And yes a little sarcasm thrown back seems to be ok on this site. No one seems to mind giving it.
Marcdls.. By a man, I was referring to man as what he does according to his own feelings not according to what is right. Burning an author, for instance, because of a book is not what Christ would do, a follower of Christ tries to make decisions based on Christs teachings. Therefore the follower should make his decision based on that teaching, not on his own feeling. We should not be led to make decisions based on emotions. Doing the right thing and doing what we,as an individual, think is right are totally different. That is why we must focus on Christs teachings of what is right in GODS eyes, not our own.
March 6th, 2009 at 2:04 am
“Focusing your life on trying to disprove religion is ridiculous.”
I agree, I mean why waste your time trying to disprove religion when it disproves itself so very well.
One question to the christians:
Why did it take so long in human history for god(your god) to make himself known to people? Humans were around long before christianity. So that means those humans didn’t even have a chance to make the “right” choice of christianity, meaning they are suffering an eternity in hell. Wouldn’t that be (your) god’s fault?
March 6th, 2009 at 12:37 am
soon*
March 6th, 2009 at 12:18 am
Korgan… Sorry I did not respond to your post back in October. My religion paper was turned in and I had to refocus on school and I forgot about you, but I see you are still on your little Crusade against Christ. I hope I can offer a few more opinions when I have the time. I will probably be talking to you guys soone.
Focusing your life on trying to disprove religion is ridiculous.
March 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
pwg i am surprised that you have to gang up on Aubbie. i thought Korgan was doing fine on her(are you a of the female gender Korgan?) own.
I know you guys like to talk but if you do this sounds like you don’t have a case against Aubbie or do you like to kill us Christians?
March 5th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Jag, sounds like you understand some problems in China?
The Chinese ppl are not being feed the truth that is in the scriptures but lies from their government, that they need to worship the ONE true God that is Jesus Christ. Do you think it is right that the government holds back the basic freedoms from their people! The people their need to speak and not be suppressed from their freedom to vote and make the law they want- majority of votes should win?!
Your response sounds like you are okay about the lies!
Jesus Christ is the maker of all things and is the creator of this earth.
Jesus is God and He came to save us from our sins- I say to you Jag repent and bend your knee to Jesus Our Lord and Saviour.
Jags post #215″- JESUS is known around the world, people in China risk their lives to worship him.
China has clear laws and regulations in regarding religions, you obey the rules, you have no problems. Problems arise when christians break the laws of government, guidance of Peter and word of Jesus when things go sour.”
March 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
What I find interesting in aubbie’s posts is the sarcastic, mocking, arrogant tone. It helps me feel the love. It reminds me an awful lot of the way ted haggard used to talk before his “sins” wiped that smarmy, rictus grin off his lying, fatuous face.
March 5th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Funny how there is all this Bible talk about gay men but there is only one, implied passage toward lesbians. Nowhere in the Bible does it expressly forbid woman on woman love. Closest they come is “abandon the natural for unnatural.” Maybe God just forgot to tell people they should add that?
March 5th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Isis, I would rather say that no one, including me, is interested of old priestly code which people like New one probably only cherry picking and not following all other rules written in leviticus. Like the following and that is merely a very short example of the lunacy in leviticus. If you try to present it all for normal people when it was rulebook for priests you get all this love christians keep claiming of.
Shooting fish in the barrel is only fun if you are stupid enough.
March 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Aubbie, regards to you comment in post 217, about the post from “new one”,
“[ Leviticus 18:22] If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”
I would imagine the reason that nobody “touched that yet” is due to the fact that it is ridiculous, ignorant and disgusting to believe that because a person is gay that they should be “put to death”,
What business is it of yours if somebody is homosexual or heterosexual? Perhaps you should consider your own twisted beliefs for what they are before commenting on other peoples sexual orientation.
Personally, and I doubt i’m alone on this one, I think that any “god” (and/or imaginary friend / angry sky fairy) who commands such a thing is not worthy of worship or even acknowledgement. So good for you, preaching hate and “gods” supposed love in the same breath, makes sense doesnt it???!
If only you would open your eyes, i pity you for your obvious lack of knowledge of the world around you, and lack of compassion towards other people.
March 5th, 2009 at 10:05 am
I really wonder if you actually read what you post. If you do, and you’re still posting such nonsense then you should try to go back to middle school and at least try and complete that. Let’s take time to point out your inconsistencies.
Yes. Proven, documented, and factual scientific evidence. Seeing as how the Bible was written 300 years before the scientific process was developed, it contains nothing of the sort. Merely fables and myth.
I may be mistaken, but I had always assumed men were followers of Christ. If you’re telling me they are actually a different species or maybe a forgotten third sex then I guess I can see how you have a point.
1. Fossil record
2. Blaring inconsistencies in the “word of God”
Both of these can easily be seen by anyone who actually looks at the evidence and doesn’t dismiss them out of hand simply because it doesn’t fit their fantasy world.
March 5th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Come to think of it, this thread has proven that no one is silencing the christians.
March 5th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Jag. We as individuals pay taxes. I’m still waiting fore the only truth that is that GOD does not exsit. All anyone does here is nit pick remarks, and throw some Darwin beattle catching around. Marcdls…No record of the Exodus? Only according to what you read. They would not have burned text or the authors according to New Testament of JESUS they would have tried to save them.You are only refering to what man would have done, not a follower of Christ……. You guys are getting tired…If you would just give me absolute truth as to why your belief is the right one we can all end this discussion right now. Oh wait, you can’t. That is why this web exsit, so you can get on here and cuss and belittle anyone that tries to debate with you. Does your mother know you play on her computer. As for “NEW ONE”. Nice to se a heavy hitter ready to jump right in. Good for you. I noticed no one has touched that yet.
March 5th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Hi guys, wow i just found the most horrible christian website ever, its sick and crazy!! some people may see this site as attacking christians (even though it promotes discussions of ideas, beliefs or lack thereof etc) but this site is the most horrible thing ever… go have a look if you can stomach it but it makes me physically ill…. god is love eh? sure…..
http://www.godhatesfags.com … fuck sake even the name….
sorry bit off subject there but just wanted to say…
ew…shudder
March 5th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Aubbie summary:
- I am a Christian who believes that JESUS died on the cross so that we may have everlasting life with our father by his grace.
Interesting theory but merely a theory.
- This country was founded on a strong belief and worship to our father GOD.
According to whose proven historical evidence?
- It is true that some Christians abuse their positions and are led astray of the path of our Lord.
So they are not true christians? And you are the judge of their faith?
- ” Peter simply commands Christians to not only be servant to GOD, but to be servants to government and people for that is the will of GOD.
So, how much does your church pay taxes?
- It was better for a false prophet to be executed than for one to escape judgment and misled the people.
Must be nice to be able to so casually let people to be killed because god did not give free will to people and his truth is so easily pervert that one needs to kill dissidents just in case.
- JESUS is known around the world, people in China risk their lives to worship him.
China has clear laws and regulations in regarding religions, you obey the rules, you have no problems. Problems arise when christians break the laws of government, guidance of Peter and word of Jesus when things go sour.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:03 am
I shall explain it to you, and I shall use simple language so as not to lose you. The irony is that you use a tale from a story who’s main plot is centered around witchcraft. Those who came before you in your religion would have burned the texts and the authors had the tale been written a few centuries earlier.
As for your reported facts, why has there yet been any proof that the exodus actually occurred. Other than your Bible there is no record of close to a million people leaving Egypt en masse. Most of the characters in your Bible are known to be in existence through the single source of religious texts. They have no more likelihood to have existed than any other mythological character.
Simply stated that a place exists does not imply that everything said to have occurred there happened as well. That is tantamount to claiming the Greek Gods exist simply because Olympus stands.
Likewise, just because your Bible says some thing exists, does not mean it does. Religion is just a collection of many examples of circular logic. If you haven’t the capacity to figure out what I mean by that you shouldn’t be posting here.
As far as proof for evolution, try to read up on experiments performed on cellular organism. They have many generations in a short time and they show remarkable abilities to adapt. After many adaptations the end result is markedly different from the beginning sample. The same thing happens with “higher” lifeforms, only since our generations take place on much longer scales it’s harder to notice, but not impossible if one uses their fossil table. Many examples of intermediate species have been documented; such as the Seymouria, Archeopteryx, and Probainognathus.
March 4th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Leviticus 20:13 (Whole Chapter)
[ Leviticus 18:22] If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
March 4th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Interesting….Lame post Korgan. I expected a little more from you. I guess you don’t have it in you. Still waiting for YOUR proof.
March 4th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Both irony and reason are a little beyond poor Aubbie, it seems. Her wizard of christ fairy tale is also much less entertaining than the Wizard of Oz.
Yeah, that vulnerable phrenic nerve, in that frail, flawed homo sapiens species…
Religion is ridiculous.
March 4th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Clap trap scale…that’s the best you got.LOL. Propaganda. Nice try. Vestiges represented by the path of the phrenic nerve? Severe it and see what happens. Theory is not a fact, as I said before, it is a theory, a hypotheses formulated leading to the theory. Christian doctrine is supported by fact, The people, places and things did exist, and have been proven to exist. The use of B*** SH** to describe Christian beliefs . Come on man, you haven’t shown me anything. Prove to me that what you believe in so deeply is the absolute truth. Show me what you got. Marcdls…how is that ironic? I don’t worship it, and there are mentions of such things in the Bible and it teaches us to be weary of anyone who practices it. If you are going to make comments like that, know what you’re talking about/ there is no irony.
March 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Anyone else find it ironic that the Christian uses the Wizard of Oz in his post 207? Just wondering if anyone else caught that.
March 4th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Aubbie, congratulations. You, like Perry, have scored very highly on the Creationist Claptrap Scale.
The “evolution is only a theory” line of argument has been tried here and elsewhere before. It fails, and furthermore, it does not support your beliefs. Yes, evolution is a theory, and it is also a fact. It is well-supported by evidence. In contrast, the postulates of Christian creationism are not even a theory; Christian doctrine is contradicted by substantial evidence, and supported by no evidence.
Note that the vestiges represented by the path of your phrenic nerve would in fact be a design error, had they actually be designed, so your point in that regard is plainly false. And again, that is only one example of many. Frankly, your religious beliefs are obviously BULLSHIT (now there’s some justified all-caps for you, for a change).
The time for your silly religious myth has passed. It is high time for humanity to accept the overwhelming evidence for evolution and against creationism, and to move on past the unsupported primitive superstitions of the past (such as Christianity).
Religion is ridiculous.
March 4th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Korgan, good morning sunshine. Scholar of deep thinking , and stop me if this sounds familar to you, in the childrens tale of Wizard of OZ the character Scarecrow wanted a brain. All he had to do was do a task for said wizard and he could have his brain. Upon completion of the task the wizard held up his accord with the scarecrow, reached in his bag full of goodies and pulled out a diploma. And with that piece of paper,diploma, the scarecrow instantly gained knowledge. Not to beconfused with wisdom. Just because we share similarites with animals doesn’t mean we evolved from them. Vestigial organs by its own definition does not make it useless, there fore it necessarily is not a flaw in design, just the same as you can lose a lung, and live. Honestly, I enjoy this chatter back and forth, as they say” Never say anyones opinion is wrong unless their opinion is wrong based on fact not theory.AS was said before me ” In the search for your scientic truth, hypotheses are proposed, evidence collected,and Theories are formulated to descride and explain what is being observed in the world around us.” end quote. Theories are just that. And granted Darwin was outstanding in his field, but again, Theory.
March 4th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Aubbie, regarding your post 203, no, you can’t pass off an offhand remark like that against the huge body of evidence for evolution. That body of evidence also utterly contradicts Christian creationist doctrine. In post 186, I cited only a couple of examples of vestigial characteristics that humans carry with them.
In fact, vestigial organs and appendages are found not only in humans but also many other species. An excellent presentation of this can be found here. If you page through that link forward and backward, you will find good summaries of some of the other evidence that is part of the overwhelming case for evolution and against Christian creationism.
Considering that, and the obvious flaws and self-contradictions of Christian dogma that have already been presented discussed here, it is truly shocking that in this day and age, anyone still clings to the old Christian myths.
Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Christians would say three things:
Everyone was born with sin.
Everyone sins.
If you don’t accept Jesus as your lord and savior you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. Which is a euphemism meaning suffer eternal torment in hell.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Question for the Christians: What will happen to those of us who do not believe in god but who also have never sinned, such as me?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Well gents time for bed. I will leave on a good note. The appendix is alive and functioning as we speak, it has always been a functioning part of our bodies. So the design is not flawed..Amen. And the universe is awesome and we may never fully understand it, but we will when we meet our Father.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Irish, You do good works and help others, yet refuse JESUS as your Lord and Savior. You defy GODS son JESUS and expect to have eternal life in his heaven. I don’t believe in GOD because I am afraid of hell, though that should be enough to scare anyone, that is a little too dogmatic. GOD loved me enough to send his only son to die on the cross for all my sin, and all of yours. All I have to do is accept him as my Lord and savior and live my life according to his word. Why is that so difficult to do. Just because my belief and my reality differ from yours, does not make me ignorant. Your reality seems to me to be a little distorted , but I try refrain from being too personal with words. It seems to me that instead of conversation and debate, you throw a few loose facts around and some slick rhetoric, and move right in for a little personal jab. What gives.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Aubbie, since your “thinking” is apparently similar to that of Perry’s, please respond to points 1 and 2 of post 186.
Specifically, regarding point 1 of that post, how is it that your purportedly perfect “god” has made so many glaring design mistakes?
Finally, what exactly is a “scholar of deep thinking”? LOL.
Religion is for the gullible and the stupid, and for those who would profit from them.