I gotta hand it to the Muslims of Broward County Florida for this little stunt. Not only did they surpass the Atheist Bus campaign in the UK, but they managed to do so in such a magnificent way.
Fifty buses in the county’s fleet are scooting around town letting all the Jews and Christians know that Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and of course Muhammad were Muslims. The ad, compliments of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, simply reads:
“ISLAM: The Way of Life of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.”
An alternate ad reads:
“ISLAM: The Message of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.”
Both ads also flash a phone number 1-888-ISLAM-55 for anyone that might have questions. Hahaha, priceless!
As would be expected, it took all of five seconds for Jews to fly off the handle and accuse CAIR of being a terrorist organization and all that crap. You can check out the rest of the soap opera here.
When I take a step back from this and view it from afar, I honestly can’t help but laugh my ass off! Think about what’s going on here. On one side we have the Christians, who in the past had a monopoly on public advertising, getting upset over Atheists who just want everyone to relax and enjoy life. But before the Christians can respond, the Muslims launch a bus-jihad and attack not only the Christians, but the Jews… leaving the Atheists unscathed.
One can only wait to see how the Christians respond. They better make it good because the bar has been raised :)
Related posts:
- Abraham II: My Three Sons
- Islam–Deaf, Dumb And Blind?
- Muhammad Yunus On The Daily Show
- Moses and Mary-Jane
- Common Sense And Courtesy Absent In Islam
January 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
It’s a BUS-OFF!
January 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Modern day holy war is not fought with WMDs, high-tech explosives, or chemical agents, but with buses!
January 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
it would be ironic if some muslim blew up one of those busses.
January 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
If only there were more of those signs about ‘religion is just a fairytale’ or whatever it was - Pretty straight to the point!
January 16th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
If you believe in God, then you know he OWNS the World and everything in it, HE OWNS you, me, and the trees,… yet you do not want to follow His RULES, you do not want to WORSHIP Him ALONE..
Submission, Restricting our Free Will, is a core fundamental way of showing that we are thankful to this GOD who gave us our health, wealth, and safety. In the time of each prophet, each of them submitted their will and desires to the revelation from God, hence they are submitters. As far as labels, was Abraham a Jew or a Christian? Was Jesus a Jew or a Christian? Where did the label Jew or Christian come from : (from wiki)
Christian = Christ follower (therefore Abraham is not a christian, nor is Christ a christian)
Jew = From tribe of Judah
(Abraham was before, could not be, Christ’s mother, Mary was from the tribe of Judah, so he’s technically a Jew)
Muslim = One who submits to the Law of God (in his time)
(Abraham submitted, numerous evidences, Jesus submitted, )
But I have to give you one point… These prophets were not Islam in the sense of Five times day prayer, fasting of our time (sunrise to sunset), charity of our wealth, and pilgrimage to Mecca..
However they all had a system of religion which they all submitted to the 10 commandments.. especially the first one or second… that none has the right to be worshipped.. except Yahweh, Allah (we do not worship the MOON GOD..duh!)
As for the prophets, Muslims are not allowed to distinguish between one and the other. In third chapter, verse 83, after a long discussion about Mary, Jesus and How Jesus is not a divine being (Adam was created more miraculously then Jesus).. God has Muslim profess the following to Jews and Christians:
(83. Do they seek other than the religion of Allah, while to Him submitted all creatures in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly. And to Him shall they all be returned.) (84. Say: “We believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrahim, Isma`il, Ishaq, Ya`qub and Al-Asbat, and what was given to Musa, `Isa and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allah) we have submitted.”) (85. And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.)
–On Hamas, I have no comment…
–to Tonto: Jesus is not dead, he is a Jew who submitted, was raised up, and will come back to lead a time of peace on this Earth, Muslim are too awaiting for him.. we believe in his Miracles, his Virgin Birth, but we do not say he is 1 of 3, he is The Word of God, Most Honoured by God, and he will lead the world to Peace, May God grant him Peace
–to Anonymous: Stop Hating on Muslims, we are here to get away from our own oppressive regime America/Britian/others had put in and awaiting for Muslim Rule.. we found that Justice and Peace reigns in American..and so we are seeking refuge here until the Land where we came from have re-established Islamic Rule which rules in Justice and Peace.. and We are a religion that holds to the same ideals that America was founded on “Live Free, or Die Trying… Give me Liberty, or Give me Death”.. For us freedom comes through Islam, Liberty come from Islam, The rule of God through the Koran should reign Supreme…
IF anyone reading this is anyway interested in Islam, Wiki it, Google it, — get the biased Muslim pitch to join Islam, then compare it to the trash you read here… http://www.islamtomorrow.com/
January 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Syed Ahmed Says: Submission, Restricting our Free Will, is a core fundamental way of showing that we are thankful to this GOD who gave us our health, wealth, and safety.
So which god do we thank for giving us disease, poverty, and danger? Just curious.
On Hamas, I have no comment…
O, Big Surprise there.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I don’t recall anyone saying you all did. If one looks at traditional depictions of angels in Islam they are the same as the Jewish and Christian ones. That style of halo was “borrowed” from the Egyptians as a symbol of the Sun God Ra. Just like the Arc of the Covenant was “borrowed” from the Egyptians.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Syed Ahmed said:
“If you believe in God, then you know he OWNS the World and everything in it, HE OWNS you, me, and the trees,… yet you do not want to follow His RULES, you do not want to WORSHIP Him ALONE..”
That reminds me of slavery. And I hope that general conception is that slavery is bad thing. Well Syed Ahmed, I do not want to submit to anyone or anything. The only person i am ready to submit to is my wife, but for totally different reasons ;)
Beside, can your deity provide the proof of ownership of the world?
January 16th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Syed Ahmed,
Submission to a god, such as by worship, voluntary personal deprivation, or otherwise, is utterly absurd. No omnipotent being with characteristics such as those claimed in Islam could or would reasonably require worship, nor require or need gratitude.
And given that you have promoted your site here, and have been attempting to proselytize for Islam, there is also this standard religious reference website that you yourself really should look at.
Religion is ridiculous.
January 17th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Syed Ahmed,
if this is a true statement
Why do the various mufti/mullah/other learned explain the word of god, Why are they expressing their free will in form of deciphering the true meaning in out of the sentences, which according to most muslims, are straight from the god and thus immutable, unchangeable.
Why your religious leaders do not submit to the will of allah but regard themselves as better than allah as they clearly seem to think they know better than what was written in Quran.
January 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Syed Ahmed Says: on post 5…
“–On Hamas, I have no comment…”
“and so we are seeking refuge here until the Land where we came from have re-established Islamic Rule which rules in Justice and Peace..”
PWG, do any of you find these comments disturbing? We can understand his “biased Muslim pitch to join Islam” and all the false statements he thinks to be true, But in the first quote above, you will find the true intent of Syed and all the Muslims-Islam world that follow this type of false thinking and their god.
Syed has NO comment, “On Hamas, I have no comment”
WHY, WHY?! is my question. If he was to answer this, his convictions on Hamas, would reveal the true intent of the second quoted comment above.
maybe Muslim Women is right, that i don’t understand English. It seems to me that Muslim Woman only understand English when she wants too and tell me that is not funny.
Again, I quote(PWG, you can stop here)…
“God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved” (John 3:16-17).
“Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17:3).
“The wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23a).
“God demonstrated His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8).
Jesus said “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6).
Repent of your sins Muslim Woman in Jesus Christ and receive what you are looking for, the forgiveness of your sins and Eternal life with the Father, hence relationship, you become a child of God.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
The ministrations of Islam, Judaism, Christianity, et al ,even if real, are merely the crumbs from some malevolent creature claiming the title of God. I for one submit to no one and no thing. I will not bend knee nor prostrate myself in supplication neither will I bow before anyone’s God’s. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knee’s.
January 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Syed, the problem with Islam, the reason it makes us nervous is not because of movies or because of the media - it’s because of (a) it’s prophet, (b) the Koran and Hadith, (c) it’s history,
I’ll try to make it short & summarize here (b/c I’m at work :-)), if you want more or to debate, visit my blog - I won’t censor you or anyone…
The Prophet,
Muhammed was a warlord who prayed on the weak. His conduct in combat was deplorable, he went back on his word and betrayed the Jews at Khyber.
He stole the wife of his son, and engaged in what we know today as ‘pedophilia’ - he married Aisha @ 6 year old , and even if he was ‘noble enough’ to wait until she was the ripe old age of 9 before consumating (one wonders what they did in the wedding tent! and how the crowd reacted when he did NOT emerge with a bloody sheet!) the relationship it’s still perverse and disgusting. AND PLEASE SPARE ME THE “THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW” ARGUMENT! If Muhammed was a prophet, and ESPECIALLY if people are supposed to emulate his life (Muslims are, and do) then his actions should stand the test of time!
THE KORAN AND HADITH:
I’ve read the Quran / Koran and what struck me about it (esp. when compared to Old or New Testament) is the sheer volume and magnitude of hateful, intolerant passages! ANd I am not talking of far-fetched interpretations - there’s plenty of passages that are GRAPHICALLY CLEAR:
[5:33] The just retribution for those who fight GOD and His messenger, and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter.
SURA 9:5: …slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.
SURA 2:39: But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein.
(my note: Peoples of the Fire…abide therin… aka burn them!)
SURA 2:191: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
SURA 2:194: And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is with those who ward off (evil).
SURA 2:254: …The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers
SURA 4:89: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them
SURA 4:91: If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.
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It tells the Muslim not to make friends with Jews & Christians. It tells Muslims that the world is split into 2: Dar Al Islam (The Abode of Islam) and Dar Al Harab (the Abode of WAR). The Muslim’s duty is to bring all that is Dar Al Harab into the fold of Dar Al Islam (Muhammed probably added that passage to justify his never-ending conequests of other people’s land & property…)
And it gets worse - once an area is Islamized, all those who do not convert must pay a form of ‘protection money’ (we call it ‘EXTORTION’) to the Muslim overlords. And the Koran spells out (in Sura 9-29 I believe) why: “so that they (the non-Muslims) will feel subdued” (other translations say ’subjecated’)… The Hadith tell us that the way Jizya was collected was to MAXIMIZE SHAME!
THE HISTORY:
Disrespect for & persecution of non-Muslims has always been the hallmark of nations governed by Islam. While Christianity has largely moved away from forced conversions and persecution of ‘others’ (& Jews never had the chance! by the time Christianity came round, Israel was already occupied by the Romans… Jews then had to struggle to maintain a community within the region despite the respective Empires that came through the region…f/m because Judaism has always been UNreceptive to converts it’s always been small, TODAY JEWS DON’T EVEN RANK IN THE TOP #10 OF WORLD RELIGIONS BY POPULATION! There are more Jains & Animalists than Jews… Yet they’re blamed for everything from economic collapse to global warming and Pee-Wee Herman) Islam continues the traditions of hundreds of years ago TODAY!
The Christian populations of Egypt (Copts), Gaza, Judea/Samaria, Syria are all under seige. National Geographic recently reported that there may not be any Chrisitians left in Bethlehem if the exodus continues. Once vibrant Jewish communities (thousands of years old) that numbered in the MILLIONS in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Morocco have all been pushed out by Islamists.
Islamic persecution of Christians and Jews did not start in 1948 (so don’t even THINK of going there). The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was big fan of Nazism and met Adolph Hitler, the Arabs of Hebron massacred the (largely anti-Zionist) Jews in 1929, and Jews/Christians could neither bear arms (hold weaponry) and had to pay Jizya to the Ottomans!
I’ve done my homework on the subject, I’ve read the Koran, travelled extensively throughout the middle East, engaged in debates with Muslims big & small - quite frankly, the more I learn, the more unsettled I get!
My biggest question to you is: knowing what we do about Muhammed, why would you want to emulate his life? (it’s a question I ask Muslim’s whenever I can… Most won’t answer, as if questioning Muhammed’s actions is somehow unIslamic)!
Surely you can see issues with his conduct, esp. relating to his family (stealing his son’s wife), his ‘marriage’ to Aisha, and the way he waged war!
April 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Religion is for dummies.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Wingles, if that was your “short”, then you also got proportions problem on top of being bigoted liar. Your Zionist slur can’t deny that you came to Palestine and were accepted as guests, then stole land, freedom and life from your hosts and built apartheid state on lie and hate. Palestinians are actually within their legal right to defend their country. I’m sure that almost every US citizen would agree with this if US got occupied, regardless of religious views of the attacker. Hamas is pathetic leftover after they’ve being robbed of all other means for defence.
Wingles, yours are only invented excuses for further genocide and that got nothing to do with any religion. I don’t think you are truly religious, since religion you claim to follow does not allow what you promote. Aren’t Jews banned by their God from returning to Israel until Messiah comes back? That means that settling in Israel is a heresy if you are Jewish, because as far as I’m informed, Messiah is not around just yet.
To godless egomaniacs claiming that they do not bow to anyone I can only wish lots of luck with that. It’s highly unlikely that your life works that way, which you might find out on your own when you eventually grow up and spiritualy mature. And then, you will die one day, and disappear into futility, because there is no afterlife, right?
July 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
“can’t deny that you came to Palestine and were accepted as guests, then stole land, freedom and life from your hosts and built apartheid state on lie and hate. ”
I can deny it and prove it. Everything you said here is a lie.
July 20th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
“…leaving the Atheists unscathed…” Uh, well not really. It assumes a religious belief which Atheists claim not to have. So, the bus advert does an end run around the Atheists.
July 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Whats the main difference between atheism and religion?
Atheists are talking to the religious only becouse they hope religious would listen to them.
Religious are talking to the atheists only becouse they somehow cannot kill atheists anyway.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Muhammad was a pig fucker
September 13th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Islam is a great religion. You do not have any idea about it. You heard wrong information from a media (TV, press).
If you want to know the truth, Please visit:
http://www.beautifulislam.net/intro/understanding_islam_muslims.htm#islam
some people misunderstand Islam. Please read about Islam and prophet Mohammed without prejudge.
” Muslims believe in One, Unique, Incomparable God; in the Angels created by Him; in the prophets through whom His revelations were brought to mankind; in the Day of Judgement and individual accountability for actions; in God’s complete authority over human destiny and in life after death. Muslims believe in a chain of prophets starting with Adam and including Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Elias, Jonah, John the Baptist, and Jesus, peace be upon them. But God’s final message to man, a reconfirmation of the eternal message and a summing-up of all that has gone before was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) through Gabriel.
Islam may seem exotic or even extreme in the modern world. Perhaps this is because religion does not dominate everyday life in the West today, whereas Muslims have religion always uppermost in their minds, and make no division between secular and sacred. They believe that the Divine Law, the Shari’a, should be taken very seriously, which is why issues related to religion are still so important. ”
For more information please contact me Hamrshousha@gmail.com
September 14th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Ahmed, nice try at advertising your religion, but you fail unless you can refute all the points about the many contradictions and absurdities of Islam such as those documented here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/by_name.html
and here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/science/long.html
Nothing “great” about Islam there. Seems you have a lot of work to do!
And no private e-mails please. We’ll keep the exposure of your particular god nonsense (and others) publicly visible here.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
I would have to go against with you Ahmed at what you said, concerning that. If you want I can walk with you in the light of truth that Jesus is God and He was crucified on the cross for your sins. I have included an article by Brigitte Gabriel, which explains this much better, concerning what you are trying to do. I can have peace with you as a friend and which I do have friends of like faith as you. But since your a feel good proclaimer please explain [Excerpt: " Democracy is considered as a threat to the true religion of the Islam."] would you consider this true?
Ahmed Says:
“Islam is a great religion. You do not have any idea about it. You heard wrong information from a media (TV, press).
If you want to know the truth,”
Why Is CAIR Rejoicing?
by Brigitte Gabriel
Dear Ahmed,
If you or I were a fly on the wall inside the national headquarters of CAIR today (Council on American-Islamic Relations), I have no doubt we would be witnessing a celebration.
Anyone who follows CAIR understands that the organization is intent on convincing Americans that Islam is a peaceful religion, that terrorists are just a few “extremists” who do not follow “true” Islam, and that Muslims in America are the constant victims of discrimination, hate, and a massive and organized campaign to falsely smear them.
Government statistics don’t support the claim that Muslims are frequent, or even occasional, victims of discrimination or hate crimes.
But CAIR understands full well that if Muslims can be successfully portrayed as victims, and critics of radical Islam successfully portrayed as “bigots” or “intolerant,” efforts to stop the infiltration of cultural Jihad into America will be seriously undermined.
This is why CAIR has worked hard for years to lobby political officials, members of the media, and leaders in academia. CAIR is quick to attack any person or group or silence any effort that speaks out against radical Islam and the threat it poses to America. Just recently CAIR-San Diego tried to stop an ACT! for America chapter presentation at a San Diego library.
CAIR’s confidential strategy memo of last year, which we obtained from an inside source, reveals CAIR understands very well how important it is to win the public relations battle.
And a recent Pew Research Center poll reveals that CAIR’s strategy is beginning to bear fruit.
For instance, the poll found that 58% of Americans now believe that Muslims are subject to “a lot of discrimination.” The same poll found that 52% believe Hispanics are subject to a lot of discrimination, and 49% believe blacks are subject to a lot of discrimination.
In other words, more Americans believe Muslims are discriminated against than Hispanics or blacks. The public relations drumbeat to cast Muslims as victims appears to be working.
But what is most disturbing is that 45% of those polled do not believe Islam is any more likely to encourage violence among its believers than other religions.
Consider that shocking finding for a moment. Since 1970, over 50,000 different acts of Islamic terrorism or violence have been documented across the globe. No other religious belief comes even remotely close.
Yet 45% of Americans polled by Pew believe Islam is no more likely to encourage violence than Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism. In other words, 45% of Americans now believe something that is demonstrably and provably incorrect.
How has this happened? Disinformation in our schools and universities and rampant political correctness in the media and government, fueled by the actions and activities of organizations like CAIR.
Like I said, CAIR is rejoicing today.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I do not surprise after I read the website that you put Korgan. I understood why you have wrong information about the great religion; Islam. Because there are many unintentional misunderstand. I will try to explain that as much as I can, because I still study English . Maybe my English does not help me.
For example, in the first website:
How long is Allah’s day?
Three versus talk about a Day with Allah (1000, 50000) the first number is a normal day and it is compare with day of earth. The second number is a hereafter day. If you read some versus before and after the mentioned verse, you will understand that without explanation.
Another example: Is Iblis an angel or a jinn?
Iblis is a jinn. That what say the Quran but Iblis was a good jinn and he worshiped Allah (The God) as good as angel. That is why he was in angels’ level. But when he did not accept the order from Allah he has become bad.
Last Example: Could Allah have a son?
Allah does not have son. In the first verse “Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible. ” If you read it you will understand the meaning, some nonbelievers said Allah has girls so Allah said if he have child he can choose what he want. But at the end of verse he said but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.
Now, the second website, the earth is fixed and does not move. 27:61 This is not true because the right verse is “Or, who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable”
Another example, your website says ["And the earth have We spread out." The earth is flat according to the Quran.]. you misunderstood here because he does not say flat, he says spread out; he made it easy to live.
Your website said [The sun "floats" in an orbit around the earth. 21:33] but the right saying in Quran is “And He it is who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit” that means the moon float in an orbit and the sun, but Quran does not says it float around the earth. You will say so where does it float? Maybe around the galaxy and will appear that in the future like many science the Quran has said for 1400 years then the scientists agree with it .
So please be fair and try to figure out the Islam.
If you need any question about any thing in the websites , I can answer about them.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Ahmed, nice try at advertising your religion, but you fail unless you can refute all the points about the many contradictions and absurdities of Islam such as those documented here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/by_name.html
and here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/science/long.html
Nothing “great” about Islam there. Seems you have a lot of work to do!
And no private e-mails please. We’ll keep the exposure of your particular god nonsense (and others) publicly visible here.
Religion is ridiculous.
September 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Korgan, you keep repeating your self and making no sense. Nothing “great” about you there. You are a joke. Now refute that if you can, so I can be a smartass and copy/paste this underneath.
September 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
So shane, tell us, what religious myth is it that you follow?
And fuck off and die, asshole, while you’re at it.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:46 am
“Korgan, you keep repeating your self and making no sense. Nothing “great” about you there. You are a joke. Now refute that if you can, so I can be a smartass and copy/paste this underneath.”
Sorry, I was wrong. You are not a joke. You are retarded and that’s not funny. People shouldn’t make fun of mentally disabled. My sincere apologies.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:13 am
shane,
I highly doubt that you are qualified to make that judgment. I am, and I’m wholly and fully sane. I am rather obviously not “retarded”. The same cannot be said for religious wingnuts.
Show some guts for a change and answer the question:
“So shane, tell us, what religious myth is it that you follow?”
Or just go away, coward.
Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Korgan, read the site title please. I hope you are not too deluded to claim it doesn’t exist as well. If you were not so ignorant to previous posts on this site, you may have noticed that it’s about Islam. It is pretty obvious, so I concluded that you are disabled in some way. This is why someone thought this advertising is necessary, because of people like you that tend to ignore obvious, and people that would like to know something more are not hindered by people like you. Nobody is forcing you to learn anything, but if you really want to be able to judge and distinguish between things, you need to posses enough knowledge about them. Your links to pamphlets that are half-truths and lies are useless. You probably hold them sufficient to make your judgment, because you already decided before you even examined them. Unlike you, some other people are on the quest for knowledge, spirituality and ultimate truth. They may be interested. If you personally are not interested, then please just ignore one more thing with many other.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:30 am
“shane”,
You are both a fool and a coward.
The absurdity (and the violence) of the tenets of islam is well documented and well understood. One of the absurdities of islam and other religions is actually this need for advertising itself. It seems beyond your little mind that an omnipotent being would have no need for such “advertising”, nor in fact a need for a book (in the case of the quran, an obviously flawed book) to get its message across, nor would such a message be subject to misinterpretation.
Now again, show some guts for a change and answer the question directly:
“So shane, tell us, what religious myth is it that you follow?”
Or just fuck off and go away. No advertising of religion will be tolerated here, asshole.
Religion is for the ignorant, the gullible, the cowardly, and the stupid, and for those who would profit from them.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:41 am
Korgan might be a big wanker but shane blows dead bears.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:48 am
nope. there goes one bear now that got up and walked away.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:49 am
quick, call the religions sheep. shane has resurrected a dead blown bear
September 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
Step right up now people and get insulted by Pleiades. sheesh.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 am
Pleiades:”quick, call the religions sheep. shane has resurrected a dead blown bear”
Kids, drugs are bad, here is example.
Kurgan:“So shane, tell us, what religious myth is it that you follow?”
Well, since you asked nicely and polite: unlike you followers of atheism, I do not follow any religious myths. Any other stupid questions?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 am
“shane”,
You are both a fool and a coward.
The absurdity (and the extreme violence) of the tenets of islam is well documented and well understood. One of the absurdities of islam and other religions is actually this need for advertising itself. It seems beyond your little mind that an omnipotent being would have no need for such “advertising”, nor in fact a need for a book (in the case of the quran, an obviously flawed book) to get its message across, nor would such a message be subject to misinterpretation.
Now again, show some guts for a change and answer the question directly:
“So shane, tell us, what religious myth is it that you follow?”
Or just fuck off and go away. No advertising of religion will be tolerated here, asshole.
Religion is for the ignorant, the gullible, the cowardly, and the stupid, and for those who would profit from them.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Korgan, you keep repeating your self and making no sense. Nothing “great” about you there. You are a joke. Now refute that if you can, so I can be a smartass and copy/paste this underneath.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
PS Pleiades I do love blowing bears but they are big for my tight smartass and I am sore
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
a bear a day keeps my mouth full. I cant close it
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
yah we know shane. Keep on resrecting those bears they luv you 2
September 25th, 2009 at 7:02 am
I’m 14 years old selfish spoiled brat with bear fetish. Go me.
September 25th, 2009 at 9:46 am
how cum my fingers get stickey when i do that
September 26th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
hyrocket said ” Jesus is God and He was crucified on the cross for your sins” That is funny. How Jesus be god and at the same time Jewish killed him as you believe. God without power to defence on himself. You sould think a little bit about that.
If you want the truth, Jesus was great prophet from the God like Moses and Mohammed.
September 26th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
All religions? have there extremists.
Hitler was a Christian who “killed Jews for God”. and , Bush is a Christian who killed many Muslems. and Milosevich was a Christian who killed many many Muslems. England, France, Germany and Italy are Christian countries and They occupied an Islamic countries and killed Millions people under the Christian flag. Christian America killed Indian American.
All of this, No one of Muslems said Christian religion is terrorist because we know and believe Christian and Jesus, But most of Christians judge on Islam without any knowledge. they just watch media that was owned by enemies of Islam.
All Christians, Muslems and Jewish terrorist are doing the exact opposite from what God’s word says
Finally, Upon you be peace. this is our greet
September 29th, 2009 at 12:50 am
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October 3rd, 2009 at 8:21 am
i love all Prophets.
October 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Well thank you. I’m a Prophet meself. Thanks for your expression of love. Kisses to you too.
Now I prophesy that y’all will want to head right on over to http://venganza.org rightee now and learn about His Noodliness the one true god and the ways of Piracy there.
yarrr and belches to y’all.
RAmen
November 1st, 2009 at 6:13 am
Can everybody keep their God to themselves. AS for Islam being generaous that is a joke. Go to the Gulf states and see how the poor third country nationals are treated. Like crap. I live there.
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
liberal5, Islam got nothing to do with Gulf states wealth or lack of it. Unlike many other religions, Islam requires from its followers to share part of their own personal wealth with other less fortunate people. That comes in my opinion as close as it gets to literal definition of “generosity”. “Third country nationals”? I’d call that “people” or maybe even “brothers”, but that’s just me. From your high tower it may seem that they are just “treated like crap”, but you also should consider that you maybe a cause or even a tool of their treatment. This may be irrelevant as Muslims would probably see that as them being tested by God, but it could actually be a test for you as well. You see, Islam got this quite simple concept of this world we live in and afterlife. What we do in this short life lasts for eternity. This limited precious time in this world we get to show if we really believe and follow His word. Once this time is over, that’s it. What’s done is done. We either pass or fail this test, very simple concept and common to many other religions. What I found differentiates Islam from anything else I met so far is that by requiring five times a day prayer it actually reminds me of all of this at least five times a day. So I think about how am I going to best use my time here quite often. As you can see, it doesn’t necessarily work, but I still see it as a nice concept.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 am
shane, Christianity (and many other religions) also frequently claim to drive sharing of personal wealth. However, for your religion and others, the reality looks entirely different, and the reality appears to be that the high priests generally live a relatively lavish lifestyle at the expense of the flocks that they fleece. You seem to think your religion is different in that regard, but the evidence seems to be otherwise. Sure there are exceptions, but I’ve seem lots of imams that are fabulously wealthy, basically they are frequently fat pot-bellied cows with exceedingly opulent lifestyles. Now you will claim that they aren’t real muslims, but they are common and therefore exemplary, and religions like yours have long been maintained partly to support these people and their self-interest. Your religion looks no different than many others to me.
Speaking of evidence, what is the evidence that you base your belief in your god and your eternal life on?
Finally, re your conclusion about “how best to use my life”, that optimization goal can be directly arrived at if your starting point is that you think you only have one life to live. No islam, nor any other religion, is required there.
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:06 am
indigoBoy, like you mentioned, Christianity is what you are actually having in mind while talking about Islam and wealth. When talking about social injustice, you are probably thinking about centuries of theocracy, more specifically by pope and Catholic Church. I’m only assuming, because that’s the only way I can explain such rubbish to myself. Koran doesn’t even mention priests. Imams are people like everyone else. You seem to see them as some sort of monks or even saints. Even with their human flaws, they still might be able to help you on your spiritual path.
I wouldn’t argue belief of people you are mentioning, but I would argue their legality, morality and credibility. Islam got nothing against personal wealth as long as it’s being acquired and shared with others in accordance with its principles. You may not be able to understand this unless you are religious yourself: Islam is not about people and what others do, it’s about you and between you and God. There are no excuses. What do you do? Are you walking the walk?
Speaking of evidence, what evidence you got that this is not our only life? Just to remind you, religion is belief system based on faith, and not scientific concept. However, if you still look for evidence, I would suggest reading Holy Koran. While you are at it, one of the evidences good enough for me will be around 1m away from your nose.
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:29 am
What you claim about wealth share principle in Islam is same for Christians and many other beliefs. About the same level of practice too. No big diff., give or take a few fat leaders here and there and how many bangles on dresses.
You are one who needs to present evidence, since you make the claims. Koran is well read by many but has lots of errors and not firm evidence to see. How come your god needs such book anyway? A real god should be able to make all people know without one, no questions, and that didn’t happen.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:32 am
indigoBoy, you are obviously very proficient in both Christianity and Islam, and I assume many other religions, so there is not much point in me explaining any differences to you. As for evidences, there is about as much sense in presenting them to you as well. Truth is, you will refuse them even if they are in front of your nose, because that is your choice, simple as that. That choice is why you got this life as a test, and why God didn’t make all people same. I’m sure you will refuse to understand this as well. Nothing I say will ever change you. However, let’s experiment. I will present you with a proof. You see, we Muslims consider Koran itself a proof, the way it is written, its language … and also says somewhere that you won’t be able to produce another one if you try. So, how about I get you to produce new Koran, with at least same literal beauty, and in that way prove it wrong. In other words, here is my challenge for you: if you can produce new Koran, you disproved its origin. If you can’t, it’s a proof that it’s from God. Time starting … now.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:03 am
shane
So you are “man of one book”. Again the first question remains that you avoiding and now your claims bring your religion into question more:
The first question that you not answered was
1. Why does your omnipotent “god” need a book to get its message across at all? Especially a book that is easily subject to so many misinterpretations. (The fact of misinterpretations cannot be disputed because obviously I interpret koran differently than you. No case can argue.)
2. Why is it that koran, that you claim to be word of god, has so many errors and omissions? You will no doubt argue point but errors in the koran vs. scientific and historic facts are so documented. Therefore, show how modern particle physics, medicine, and evolution are explained details in the koran. If there are errors in the explanation, or omissions, then the book is demonstrated imperfect because both incomplete and errors in facts. Such is the case and more weakness of one book.
3. There many beautiful books from many cultures and to many people they are vastly more beautiful than any religious book. Many of their authors would not claim them to be works of god. More important: Claimed beauty of book is not sufficient argument. Eye of the beholder is not universal same beauty for koran, so cannot truly be divine book that you claiming.
Please speak to above points.
November 5th, 2009 at 8:04 am
IndigoBoy: “So you are “man of one book””
I will ignore this little insult, and in hope that you are not “man of one book” or more likely just one atheist blogg, I shall continue to speak on your demand.
I said to you “I’m sure you will refuse to understand this as well.” which you did. I really tried to answer your questions before, but since you are not looking for answers, you fail see them. So in hope to better understand you and myself, I’ll try to answer again in different way with same answer.
1. God doesn’t need a book: it’s people that need it. You see, Mohamed p.b.u.h. didn’t read from an actual book that fell from a sky, he was telling to people what God told him through an angel. This is why many Muslims try to memorise Koran, which is not as hard as it may sound if you read it daily, or if you got frightening angel in your face communicating it to you. What you consider a fault with Koran, that it can be “misinterpreted”, I actually perceive as one of its wonders. You see, it was designed for everyone, everywhere, different traditions, eras, and as such it holds many meanings, which sometimes depend on the student and situation. It seems to me basically as a mirror, and it will be the way you are. However, the main message is always same, strong and itself a wonder. You can only “misinterpret” some things if you ignore that main message of warning, hope, support, mercy, goodness and love. God doesn’t need to send us a message and warn. He could just smite us all and that would be the end, yet He still gives us a chance and ways to follow, and Koran is one of those ways. Other ways being sent to us through His other messengers: Jesus, Abraham, Moses and many others.
2. There are no “documented” errors in Koran. You only found that somewhere without really checking for your self. If you do some research on that, you will find that those “errors” are based on mostly poor translations from Arabic, a lot of ignorance and absolute idiocy of people looking for them. All those “errors” are explained somewhere, only a matter of you looking for correct explanation, or just blindly accepting “error”. That’s why I already said under 1.: you’ll find what you’re looking for. Since you brought up a science, and more specifically particle physics, well, it indicates that this whole Universe is a hologram, just look up “universe as a hologram” if you don’t believe me. Or you could just read it in Koran. Which to me in different words basically says that this world is only a dream.
3. I covered that all under 1. and 2. Besides, language of original Koran in Arabic is unlike anything else before it, and that’s what I had in mind. You could look that up as well. Non-Muslim experts on Arabic agree unanimously on that, so where exactly do you get those claims on “non sufficiency” from? Are you seriously saying that illiterate medieval peasant in distant desert just like that invented whole book of million meanings and messages and immense poetic beauty of the top of his head? I somehow doubt it. Deed like that would be sufficient to give Mohamed p.b.u.h. enough credit even without claim of holy origin, and if he was only a poet, why claiming such thing? Just look up Jalaludin Rumi for example, he’s almost a religion of itself. Mohamed p.b.u.h. wasn’t a politician, or a soldier, nor a religious person before that happening, didn’t hunger for power in any way, why sudden change? If he wanted to rule Arabs, he wouldn’t need a whole world religion, or extremely hard to make poem that he had to memorise. He could’ve done it much easier. Just look up some history of nationalism while you’re at holograms and Rumi.
So, now that I addressed your points, I can’t wait to see how you’re going to handle my challenge. I still haven’t got that book from you, and all this time that passed meanwhile proves “erroneous” Koran right and your atheist blogg wrong. You can’t let that happen. How about you shut everyone up and produce that stupid book finally?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Shane, man of one book and believer in clear fiction god,
Your post misses point again again.
1.Here you miss point of first question and claim book is because of human problem by god. But this god for koran story is claimed perfect and infinite power yet it create imperfect being that need book? Such powerful god could easy created beings with appreciation of god built in. Remember, this omnipotent creature is supposed. Not the case, so Islam god must be flawed story, not else. Failed to answer question with valid answer. Claims for your god must be in error, is now proven.
2. Such documented errors do exist. Sure you can find links no problem, of course will argue, but that is point. Again, many possible disagreeing interpretations means book is flawed, not perfect book and supposed creator of book also flawed, must have been human. Bad logic on you there again.
3. No way to prove illiteracy claim from thousands years back, other than yet more claim about one book, can be actual many authors. So weak statement by you. Also many talented poets was in many languages from many life backgrounds, not proof of god for your one. But think why your god only show up once in one book, not again reveal itself in thousand of years. This must be funny supposed. Real god would know absence would cause problems, would make self known again. Did not happen. God story can not true of this. No way to accept such described god, must be just human story. People just too weak to not accept truth that no god.
Please don’t claim points addressed. You not arbiter here and not my blog here.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Also whole universe is hologram claim at end 2 is very funny, would be proof of more koran error if that is there. Much phase incoherence at many wavelengths can be demonstrated in simple observation hence not hologram. Maybe explain how laser work in koran via phase coherence used for light before get to big claim of hologram, and that also now shown false to you.
Easy to belief, weak to understand.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
shane , also please no more asking to “shut up”. As post thread now must go on, then more expose flaw in claims and koran as supposing of word of a god. Your one is book being looked at and shown obvious fiction wrote by human.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:21 am
IndigoBoy, I did answer your questions, and you ignored those answers again. You also repeatedly ignored my challenge. This somehow doesn’t quite strengthen your position in my eyes. I know that truth is too painful to face, but your obvious fear of facing it is just sad. If you write that book same way as you wrote these few last replies, don’t even bother, because nobody will read it. And all this time that you wasted on your futile typing, you could’ve used to actually prove me wrong by producing new Koran. Also, me no asking asshat to shut up, me asking him to shut everyone up that’s against him.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:05 am
shane of one book, weird smokescreen you trying to put up to shield koran from exposure. Not surprised. Just surprised you keep up same claiming. Now thanks to weird hologram claim you make, now you have even more to answer, and getting harder and harder for you do dodge that your koran is fiction as more specific now. You go down fast now.
Book either stand or fall on own merits. We look at claims, and then other example. Back to questions. I try again with simple words, since you dodge dodge dodge and no answer:
1. Why would a god need book to get message across? God is supposed by you to be omnipotent. Yes or no? If yes then make people all who believe. No need for book. Also claim of god need to test humans such as book as test is contradictory of omnipotent claim. This is just you doge again. Again, possible misinterpretation of message is more proof of not god. Can only conclude god not exist like koran claim and koran = fiction and by man or men.
2. Why you think your god only show up visible for koran, then nothing since, thousands of years. I answer this simple question for you, as you can not and seem ignore and dodge: More recent visible would be easier to examine if true, scent not stale. But no scent, and no god. Already speak to no need to test humans in 1 so please no dodge with that.
3. Many examples of comparable size and beauty (eyes of beholder) books by human, not claim or proof of god. Take even recent Harry Potter series. I think at least 6 volumes now, many see beauty of story. Same kind of size for Lord of Rings by famous Tolkien I have to study for English in Newport, but hopefully no one ever take as nonfiction. (Oh I hope not. Scary if people might.)
4. Now we get to your hologram. First, maybe you explain
4a.what you think hologram is
4b.then how universe can be one, then
4c. how koran definite says universe is hologram
Deep water for you now.
As you tell stories, questions grow. But still koran show as big fiction.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:16 am
1. I already answered to you that God doesn’t need the book, that He communicated by various means His message to people He chose, and that those people decided to compose books based on those massages. Latest of those books is Koran. Since your reading and comprehension skills are much flawed, I’ll repeat again and as many times as you like until you acknowledge and comprehend: God doesn’t need a book, people need it. God knows what He wants. People need to write it down. Understood? God doesn’t talk to you personally (which you obviously expect) probably for the same reason you choose no to talk to ants that live two blocks away from you inside the sewer drain. You may want to let them know that it’s not the best spot and that you will eventually have to go and release your urge(I mean, you are full of shit), which will result in their demise … with a difference that you didn’t make those ants. I wonder how you would explain that to an ant. And if someone was able to make 100% copy of only one small tiny little ant, living copy, actual ant, I reckon it would be Nobel price worthy, don’t you think? Now imagine being able to produce whole wast universe and all its variety, beauty and greatness. That is God we worship.
2. You can easily examine historical background of His last messenger Mohammed p.b.u.h., as it was recorded quite reliably. What you again have in mind is probably Jesus and Christianity, which was “thousands of years ago”. Yet again you are not informed enough, but you will not accept it as your fault, and not God’s and you will continue to ponder in futility. Your stupide tries to ridicule my English show clearly your niveou. While English is not my first language and may be flawed, I’m sure you would be much worse in my mother tongue. I did put an effort and learned your language, write here in foreign language, yet don’t give me a basic courtesy of even reading it in full, which I can see from you repeated demand to explain same thing again and again. If anyone else except me is reading your posts (which I doubt because it’s both senseless and meaningless if that’s even possible) they will only see you as what you are: an asshat. This is not some sort of duel or a fight between us, and if you want a dialog, you need to stop with your monolog.
3. Harry Potter book series is literal garbage, and you must be 11 years old if you think different. It’s an insult to Tolkien to even compare that to his work.
4. etc. Ok, this shouldn’t need any explanation if you read carefully what I said and try to understand, research and then ask. I nowhere said that Koran is claming that this world is a hologram. What I was trying to say is that one of the quantum physics theories about this world based on scientific research states that this world is a hologram. It’s called “holographic principle” which you should google up since you obviously got no clue about, although I even said before to look up “universe as a hologram”. How can you dispute something without checking even basic facts on it? I’m just amazed by your level of ignorance.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Just in case:
“The holographic principle states that the entropy of ordinary mass (not just black holes) is also proportional to surface area and not volume; that volume itself is illusory and the universe is really a hologram which is isomorphic to the information “inscribed” on the surface of its boundary”.
As proving this theory wrong may also be Nobel price worthy, this would be my second challenge to you. I’m still waiting for response to my first challenge.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Dodger little boy shane of one book:
Still you dodge dodge dodge. Now you make posts longer and now in more deep water. Fast run dodge not help you now.
Now we make focus on 1,4 to keep you short. Later I bring you back 2,3 so you not escape that, just 2 question now to keep your post small and less dodge talk.
1. Now we make progress. Here you now admit book flawed and not speak to all people. But now worse case for you is you claim god not speak to all people. Your god simple can not reach other culture, so typical of man god story. We leave white people out for now, just look to maybe San or Punan. They with ancestor live through, past Islam duration by far, but no islam god speak to them, and there so obvious islam god not omnipotent, and islam god not real. You actually claim means god racist!! You need study anthropology.
4. I bring you back to same question. First show that you understand what hologram is, or you just regurgitate and with no understand. Start with explain laser work, then on show how Koran explain specific hologram else you make empty claim. Like this
4a.what you think hologram is
4b.then how universe can be one, then
4c. how koran definite says universe is hologram
Get specifics 4c so you not dodge and smoke.
shane, dodger, this like final exam for you. You failing all questions now and dodge not help you pass but internet maybe is patient. You try again, but maybe just try answer just 4 short and focus on specific how laser work and how koran try to say hologram. But please no more long post. Smell of bullshit of your pose get worse since you put more words in.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
you are 100% right islam was the religion of all prophets.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Got news for ya, latest news thar. I’m a prophet meself, but pasta is my religion, not Islam. (And I’m a really big guy, 245 lb, so you can’t even be mebbe 70% right by weight. ) So no pass go on that statement.
One exception proves ya wrong, so there. Go here to learn more http://venganza.org. Pasta be upon you and yers
RAmen
November 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
That’s a thorough skewering that you did of post 64, Wench Bob. Nice one. You pirates are good at that game.
So now I have to make a prophecy, to join in the game. I prophecy that your post and this one will get a protesting response from supporters of Islam. Watch next how good a prophet I am. Yet islam is not my religion, and in fact I don’t have a religion, thereby again proving poster “latest news” to be something less than news and merely incorrect. This proves another claim of islam to be be false, and proves again that…
Religion is ridiculous.(but of course, pasta isn’t)
November 9th, 2009 at 1:55 am
indigoBoy, I think my kindergarten visit is over. Once you kids grow up, you may learn to discuss things with other people in more mature manner, but for now, you are wasting my time and only embarrassing your self. You didn’t answer not even one of my questions or challenges, nor could you prove wrong any of my explanations, yet you keep claming it, and on top of that demanding that I keep preschool lesions for you and your kindergarten buddies. Well, my time for wasting ran out I’m afraid. Your clutching the straw got too boring for me. You won your cookie. I’ll let you enjoy it on your own now.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am
dodger shane, OK for you to give up. You can not answer questions because your beliefs are wrong and no support.
Don’t mind insults. Just expected from islamist. At least you not bomber (I hope)
Now we make focus narrowed, give you one more chance, or just fail. You just answer:
4. First show that you understand what hologram is. Start with explain laser work, base of hologram, then on show how Koran explain specific hologram else you make empty claim. Like this
4a.what you think hologram is
4b.then how universe can be one, then
4c. how koran definite says universe is hologram
4c is hardest for you. Need to show phase coherence describe, just to start or not valid hologram case.
Or you just give up. Fail school.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Other questions held back but patient. Just wait to bring back after you try answer 4.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:59 am
4. “Laser work”? Muahhahaaa!!! “Holography” is slightly different to “holographic principle” ya know. Try again after PhD, champ. Does “quantum physics” means anything to you? String theory? Black hole thermodynamics? David Bohm? Clue?
4a. your brain
4b. then wtf are you using? crack? angels dust? oh irony
4c. you tells us, is your idea, no?
4c. is because of 4a. Try harder. Fail kindergarten.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:59 am
No, you fail kinder grade for reading skills. Poster shane of many dodges first say “universe is hologram” and hologram does need laser. Shane mistaking of wrong principle. I understanding holographic principle, not what dodger shane say first. Hologram is specific thing, require laser fundamental. You throw out big words, wrong target.
But what you missing is same: explain exact how and where koran show holographic principle. Must be definite, no haze reference, else koran book flawed still more and not by god.
November 12th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
justmeShane also you not ready to bring string theory yet. Work to get out of kinder first. Black hole is what you in now, worse than deep water and not escape. Get basics explained first now. you start reference wrong principle and can not derive from koran. koran just smoke and mirrors talk, you just pretend science inside but no proof detail. You not ready to talk about high physics “Nobel price” (dodger shane words) this time. Show swimming first grade next.
Then we bring back questions 1-3. I remind that 1 part was:
Your god simple can not reach other culture, so typical of man god story. We leave white people out for now, just look to maybe San or Punan. They with ancestor live through, past Islam duration by far, but no islam god speak to them, and there so obvious islam god not omnipotent, and islam god not real. You actually claim means god racist!! You need study anthropology.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
How do the holographic principle of encoding information from (D+1)-dimensional space onto D-dimensional space tie-in with the Quran?
November 12th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Shane said to you: “Since you brought up a science, and more specifically PARTICLE PHYSICS, well, it indicates that this whole UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM, just look up “universe as a hologram” if you don’t believe me. Or you could just read it in KORAN. Which to me in different words basically says that this world is ONLY A DREAM.”
particle physics=hologram, koran=dream. Dude, you fuckin too dumb. learn reading. Koran and hologram nowhere together. Stupid much? David Bohm yet? Clue? Not yet.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Last straw of mine a gonner. What I be clutching now? /cry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/hologram.html
November 12th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Anyone knows where I can find a brain for cheap? I realy need one, pleeeeezzzzz.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
you of post 75 is liar, not real indigoBoy. You are dirty brown used asswipe, probably same shane dodger and justme.
Now we look at 74. justmeShane try to say koran say hologram, but now he admit different words. Logic also has bad flaw. simple example for you stupid kinder boy is this:
Set of a=b, c=d does not proof c=a. Think. You very very stupid kinder boy. Try to show science from koran is big failure by you so far.
At least now 74 admit koran=dream. Getting closer to correct but here is truth:
Koran = fiction is correct logic.
You = dirty used brown asswipe is also correct logic.
Not help you to bring in more reference like Bohm. That just more smokescreen, more stuff you not understand.
Back to kinder grade for you.
koran=fiction is correct equation. Dodger boy fail kinder exam again. You can keep try. Internet is patient. Try again if wish but later we also bring dodgers back to questions 1-3.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Now we bring back question 1-3 to justmeShane since they have only logic fail for 4. Just start with 1 again:
I remind that last from 1 was:
Your god simple can not reach other culture, so typical of man god story. We leave white people out for now, just look to maybe San or Punan. They with ancestor live through, past Islam duration by far, but no islam god speak to them, and there so obvious islam god not omnipotent, and islam god not real. You actually claim means god racist!! You need study anthropology.
You could not argue this.
Now we see how you back to start, maybe you try exam again. But dodge and smokescreen still not help you.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
So you dodger justmeShane now shown worship racist god allah. such allah must be = brown asswipe just like you. Not surprise.
Also here god in man image case again, and man make god. Your one is little different, god in kinder dodger image and kinder dodger make god.
November 13th, 2009 at 1:51 am
God Allah=God God
You=dumb dumb
November 14th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
80 is not my post. Probably by liar shanejustme. justme shane is brown used asswipe.
Lying is typical of asswipe follower of asswipe god such as allah asswipe of koran stories.
allah=fiction and you already admitted.
November 14th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
now shane shown worship racist god allah. such allah must be = brown asswipe just like shane. Not surprise.
Also here god in man image case again, and man make god. Your one is little different, god in kinder dodger image and kinder dodger make god.
Only dumb kinder boy believe god stories and never grow up.
allah=fiction and allah=bullshit. Obvious.
November 14th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
you of post 75 is liar, not real indigoBoy. You are dirty brown used asswipe, probably same shane dodger and justme.
Now we look at 74. justmeShane try to say koran say hologram, but now he admit different words. Logic also has bad flaw. simple example for you stupid kinder boy is this:
Set of a=b, c=d does not proof c=a. Think. You very very stupid kinder boy. Try to show science from koran is big failure by you so far.
At least now 74 admit koran=dream. Getting closer to correct but here is truth:
Koran = fiction is correct logic.
You = dirty used brown asswipe is also correct logic.
Not help you to bring in more reference like Bohm. That just more smokescreen, more stuff you not understand.
Back to kinder grade for you.
koran=fiction is correct equation. Dodger boy fail kinder exam again. You can keep try. Internet is patient. Try again if wish but later we also bring dodgers back to questions 1-3.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:08 am
Dumb dumb, already answered. Already answered. Stop repeating your self. Stop repeating your self. And stop being racist to asswipes, KorganindigoBoy. Asswipes can be white too. Asswipes can be white too. Or parfumed. Some are green. GREEEEEEEENN! NOW ANSWER:
I Wha?
Ib Wtf?
II Who cares?
IIb Pure ignorance?
I WONT ANSWERS! WHAAAAA!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Now you in denial but say you won’t answer. Won’t because can’t, obvious.
Now dodging run out on you. You started insults is just more dodge. So you typical.
justmeShane, you lost argument and you fail kinder exam. When you come back able to think for answer question 1-4 instead of child protest “whaaaaa”, internet is ready and patient for you. You can keep to try but you need more study to get out of kinder grade.
But always case is koran=fiction, no hope to proof different.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:41 am
I live in a bubble.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:08 am
WHAAAAA!
YOU WIN!
HERE YOUR PRIZE:
http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/you_win_prize_downs.jpg?w=515&h=341
February 3rd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
hey guys, it’s obvious that most of he people who lead the arguments don’t believe in God or any religion. this is wierd isn’t it? to attack a religion that u know nothing about except what u hear and watch in your own country media?
u didn’t read about it. u didn’t meet and interact with some people who believe in it. therefore, i think it’s aimless to have such a discussion as no one has the enough information to tell us.
February 3rd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
hey sahar girl,
it’s dumb dumb dumb for you to assume that we don’t know shite about your religion. ur religion is shite, not the knowledge
no need look at media . koran is dumb book with lots of errors and wrong stuff. koran is obviously just for stupid goat herders. not for modern people. no shortage of information about koran stories.
girlz like u r the aimless 1zzzzzzz.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:24 am
In conclusion the only God there is, is God that is green, LMAO ^_^.
The more of green “God” you have, the more of everything you can get, in this case, they had $60,000 of “god” that allowed them to promote their “fairy tale” HAHAHAHAAHAA