About
ReligousFreaks was born in October 2005 by myself. Mostly, it grew out of my growing disdain for religion and the hatred and ignorance it breeds. The goal of ReligiousFreaks is not to incite hatred towards people of faith, but rather to foster interfaith discussion and understanding.
If you would like to learn more about me, please check out the Just Ask section where I answered various questions from my readers.
gasmonso
November 29th, 2005 at 9:43 pm
How nice of you. Perhaps you’ll expose the hypocrisy of non-religious groups too? Oh wait, that would mean showing you’re not perfect. My bad.
November 29th, 2005 at 11:42 pm
Go ahead and use the contact form to send me some examples. I’m all ears.
November 30th, 2005 at 2:45 pm
I’m a Christian and I will admit that am a hypocrite. As much as I try I’m not perfect. I’m not going to bash you or your website… even though I think your view of true Christianity is messed up.
In fact, I agree with you that many of the examples of Christianity that are visible in the world are completely screwed up and there are many days were I just shake my head at some of the stupid things that some Chrisitans say/do. It’s sad because those are not examples of true Christianity.
What the heck was with that psycho lady who is a “God Warrior”? LOL I had to laugh at that one… then I shook my head again in disgust at her.
Anyway, just try not to assume that all of us are being represented by the hypocrites you see out there.
November 30th, 2005 at 11:53 pm
Thanks for chiming in dburetort! My view on Christianity comes from my Catholic upbringing. More on that to follow as I update the “About” section and share my private life with everyone.
As for my site, obviously I report on the extreme views in Christianity, but it seems that those views are becoming more prevalent today. You can define Christianity any way you’d like, but it is what it is. What I mean by that is… how it’s being practiced now is what defines it. I guess its like saying we are defined by our actions, not our words. What is the definition of true Christianity? I bet it’s evolved over the ages.
Be careful how you answer because I might call on you to write an article for the main page :)
December 3rd, 2005 at 8:36 am
Can I be in the next movie?
December 3rd, 2005 at 8:41 am
Hey, you ever read a magazine called “skeptic”? They have a lot of funny spins on the nuttery of the race. You can find it at B&N or the skeptic website.
December 3rd, 2005 at 11:38 am
Looks interesting icbkr, I’ll have to spend some time looking around the site :)
December 5th, 2005 at 11:43 am
Catholicism is christianity? More like a cult with 1 billion+ members or so :P
December 6th, 2005 at 5:15 pm
I have spent a little time browsing your site (I discovered it through either /. or fark, can’t remember which), and I would like to say that it is nice to see someone interested in relevent, non-flamewar discussions. And your videos are hilarious.
December 6th, 2005 at 10:10 pm
Thanks ti3ed! I’m not a big fan of flamewars… nothing is gained from them. Just hang around here and maybe we’ll all learn something :)
December 7th, 2005 at 12:41 pm
You’re certainly not alone in your opinion of Christianity and hypocrisy. I think you and some of the other posters here are noticing a characteristic of people in general though. True Biblical Christianity teaches that all people are corrupted by sin. We struggle with it (see Romans 7) and therefore yes, we all are hypocrites because we fail to do what we know is right.
The Bible also says our sinfulness deserves eternal punishment (Romans 6:23) but God Himself (Jesus) took our punishment upon himself, because He loves us. And He leaves it to us whether we accept his gift of eternal life.
I think it is a mistake to judge Christianity by its followers. You wouldn’t think Michael Jordan is a lousy basketball player just because his fans can’t dribble. Study Jesus himself - his teaching, his death, his resurrection, and you’re on the way to understanding true Christianity.
December 9th, 2005 at 6:29 pm
Amen to the above.
Gasmonso, it seems to be hypocritical in itself to say that you’re tired of the hypocrisy of religion, when in fact you’re tired of the hypocrisy of people. Further, to judge Christianity based on what you learned of Catholicism is not really valid in the eyes of anyone but the Catholics. I would argue that Christianity is based in the Bible, and the Bible alone. If you don’t have a solid understanding of the Bible (most Catholics do not because they don’t get taught it very much), then you’re not really in a position to comment on Christianity. Perhaps you’re in a position to comment on nominal Catholicism, and certainly we’re all in a position to comment on the various high-profile religious nutcases around, but that’s not really the same thing as Christianity, is it?
Regards,
Bnonn
December 10th, 2005 at 2:07 am
Who’s hypocritical more than the person that calls someone else hypocrticial?
I’ve been looking around this site and I’m in shock because it’s so well put together. Its an amazing concept… a Non-Christian that doesnt hate Christians? It’s so annoying when people attack Christians for being intolerant…. but where is the tolerance for Christians?
Gasmonso, I’m sure not everyone coming to this site agrees with you but I’m positive that you’ll earn alot of respect from many, many people….. you definately have my respect!
December 12th, 2005 at 12:44 pm
it’s interesting the comments continuously refer to christianity when the about paragraph uses the word religion. christianity refers to living one’s life by the teachings of jesus. religion refers to living ones life by the teachings of that religion. very few religions are christian though they may refer to themselves as such. most of the bible doesn’t concern itself with the teachings of jesus. although, much of it is commentary on the teachings of jesus. you find that a lot in religions, commentary on teachings. taoism, islam, judaism, christianity and many others develop commentaries on “the divinely inspired word” that become far more influential than the teachings themselves.
December 27th, 2005 at 2:13 pm
The only difference between a religion and a cult is popularity. Christianity is very popular, so are Judaism, Islam, and a few others. Less popular, but still called “religions” are LDS, Wicca, etc. A little further down the line you find the Scientologists and the suicide cults.
But remember this. They’re all the same. Each cult/religion is a system of beliefs and a culture built around sharing those beliefs. Hardly any of these beliefs are provable or unprovable. All rely on blind faith. Bibles, Korans, and other ancient texts are not evidence. How many times and for how many hundreds of years was it written that the earth was flat? How many believed it? Time and faith don’t make truth. There is absolutely no difference between a cult and a religion other than popularity.
So let’s all have a little tolerance, okay? Let’s stop with the “you’re going to burn in hell!” comments. How do you know that your cult–no matter how popular–is the one and only true cult? Let’s just all live and let live, and if the next guy wants to worship some alien and commit suicide when the comet comes by, so be it. It’s his belief. Let it happen.
And if the Pope steps out on the balcony tomorrow and says that Christ has risen again and that the apocalypse is upon us and that all good Christians shoul submit their bodies to the earth so that their souls can ascend to heaven, I’ll stand aside and keep my mouth shut.
January 19th, 2006 at 11:29 am
Your site seems to be focused on Christianity alone. Why?
January 19th, 2006 at 7:09 pm
I just would like to share that while your take on Christianity being Hypocritical is not entirely far from the truth, you should not forget that countless millions actually BELIEVE what they are doing. I can’t speak for everyone, but in MY life, I can’t fathom being where I am today without God’s influence on my life.
January 20th, 2006 at 8:28 am
Religion is an old obsolete phenomenon that are off no father use for mankind. Much like the human appendix, it’s has no function but it’s still there (unfortunaliy it’s far more easy to remove an appendix then a religion).
January 22nd, 2006 at 6:54 pm
No further use? I think you have simplified things a bit too much here. People have used religion for a lot of things, and some of them are still useful. Politicians use it constantly for their own gain. Christians still use it to justify their good deeds. There are bad and good uses. Expand your argument, please!
January 23rd, 2006 at 3:02 pm
Yes, way to show how atheists are enlightened people by being a complete jackass!
AAA == Another Angry Atheist
January 26th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
hello,
i am also a catholic myself but have been questioning more and more over the past few years, and not just catholics or christianity, but religion in general….
the simple fact that i was born in a christian part of the world dictated what beliefs i should have, this holds true for many others…. this fact alone should make you question your faith…
which brings me to another thing…
the whole idea of faith is really not quantifiable and therefore can be thrown around by many without having to explain themselves…. ‘i have faith’ or ‘have faith is the lord’ and so on, really…what does this mean?? from my upbringing faith mostly meant accepting the situation for what it was and relying on the fact that god knows more than you and therefore the situation must be thought as good in the long run…there was usually no mention of why i should have faith, just that i should…
when we are children and taught such things we accpet them because we are more concerned with what we are gong to do next (like play, bath etc) and once we have grown up and realized that we are responsible for our actions and that actions imply a reaction, we think more carefully of what we are going to do in the future… faith for adults is a way of not having to worry about this action/reaction (i can not study for calculus, but instead pray, and have faith that i will pass or i can visit my sick grand father and pray and have faith that he will get better)
this obviously has reprecussions…
for instance, say i pray for my grandfather to get better and he does, so naturally i thank the lord for helping me, then however his sickness re-occurs and he dies… what do i think now?
bottom line
faith is a brain process we use to stop from having to think of the situation logically.
my grandpa got better because of the medication he was on at the time, which surpressed the disease for a while, but finally was too much for his body to handle.
this is not to say we should ignore the teachings of religion, hinduism, christianity, islam all have good ideas, and since these religions have developed separetly of each other, there must be some mechanism within humanity to create morals without religion…unless are religions are true, and there are many different types of gods.. which of course isnt logical….therefore
u can be a good person and not believe in religions.
please think logically before u attribute something to faith..if u must.
January 26th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
as a addition to my last post i want to point out that religion, math, music, art are all ways of explaining the world as we see it… i must say that using logic as a way of explaining things could be thought as a religion in itself…however unlike most other religions, logic has consistant, reproducable results, so at the moment for me at least it seems like the way to go…however there may at some time be an event which shows mathematical logic to be false…. so the only thing we can have certain faith in, is that there is some form of existence in which we are a part of…but the only way we are going to know for sure(if that is possible) is if we work together as a species and all live by a similar set of beliefs that strengthens humanity….
January 30th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
So you attack religion for breeding hatred and ignorance? What about race? It’s been used much more commonly. And think about ideology. Remember the Terror in revolutionary France, or Stalin’s purges? They were both athiest movements. I’m not blaming any athiests for them, but we have to realize that belief in anything can breed hatred and ignorance - or joy and peace. To blame “religion” for them is nearsighted and simplistic.
January 31st, 2006 at 2:19 am
Way to go man… I think this website is a refreshing take on the world’s messed up current events; if you can’t laugh at, make fun of, or debate what is going on because of the religious fanatics (of all types) then I don’t know where we would be… certainly not better off.
Mostly I respect your obvious will to go on with this website even with the promise of religious fanatics constantly whining at your every post. We all know it’s fun to ‘make fun’ of those people for a while, but it has to get old at some point… doesn’t it? Ok maybe not :D
January 31st, 2006 at 3:00 am
Gday. I too would like to offer encouragement for your attempt to look at religious issues.
Though many love to fight about it, this fighting is often made in pure ignorance and ignorance is clearly not helpful when we see that much of what is going on in the world is at least effected if not controlled by religion.
It’s easy to sit back and make criticism at some crazy southern baptist or a suicide bomber and I suppose that is really what this site is about, but remember that this idea of religion or theology is the study of god and generally (for the worlds most popular religions) relates to our eternal fate. Like some of the previous posters I would reiterate the encouragement to investigate the claims of these religions.
Really the only way that you can make serious comments on religions is to see what they say about god and the world around them. A really good entry level book I’ve read is ‘Spectator’s guide to world religion’ which attempts to explore the top 5 religions with impartiality. It also looks at the idea of plurality (all are the same). It is written by a Christian theologian but I’ve yet to read another comparative religion book that has been so informative, unbiased and easy to read.
I myself as a Christian believe it is very important for me to understand other people’s beliefs, not because I think they might have something I have missed (because I believe Christianity explains the world) but so I can understand where they are coming from and so love them as Jesus does.
February 4th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
Religion is nonsense. Why this ridiculous idea that religious views are somehow automatically worthy of respect confounds me. Nonsense is nonsense and is no more worthy of respect than any other superstition.
February 14th, 2006 at 9:38 am
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February 19th, 2006 at 5:56 pm
Imagine a sign appearing on the sky:
Novelties, bizzare items and other useless collectibles. Today: Religions special!
Believe in one, get another one free!!!
February 20th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Hey.
I sure do enjoy what you do here.
I currently find myself on a similar path.
Perhaps we should work together, or at least link our sites. Check me out at Ihatethat.net go to the post: ‘My God’. Lemme know.
-Gabriel Zacchai,
curator, Ihatethat.net
March 25th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
Hey. I’ve just been reading through your site… and through everyone’s comments and I just wanted to say how much I like it!
I think it’s a shame that the extremities of religions - the fanatics - are the ones who get the most attention and give a bad name to other people who subscribe a particular religion and are not like them.
I personally find myself on a vein of thought that the structure of religions is the problem. By that I mean that the original idea/ls are taken and interpreted for individuals own ends and means. Though the original teaching may have some very vaulable points in their original context because of the power of interpretation they can be ‘twisted’ and ‘distorted’ into whatever the presenter sees fit.
That’s just my two-pence!
I think religion as a whole is fascinating, and a site to discuss, without being ‘hate-focused’ to any religion is a brilliant idea!
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:29 am
A book I’d suggest to anyone who has any opinion, one way or the other on Christianity, is “The Case for Christ”. Written by Bill Hybels, it’s an atheist’s search to disprove Christianity and the results of his search.
May 23rd, 2006 at 11:35 am
correction: author is Lee Strobel, not Bill Hybels. sorry.
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:50 pm
I’ve read the book a couple of years ago. It wasn’t very convincing. If I remember correctly, the author was less than skeptical. I found a quick review with links to more in depth reviews that are critical here: http://home.teleport.com/~packham/strobel.htm. Enjoy!
June 1st, 2006 at 7:36 pm
Ok, I am a Christian, a very devoted one at that. I came to this website and found many things in good humor. I am not angry, but I am bewildered as to why you focus on Christianity so much? It kind of pains me to see others bash on it (not you but the comments I have just read). I am a christian with a few applied beliefs from other religions, such as the Seven Chakras. Well, good stuff, i found the Jesus Christ Super Cop rather entertaining, I think it’s good with how you are doing that as long as I don’t see the Jesus character conveying alcohol use and sex etc… anything other than violence… haha.
June 1st, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Thanks for speaking your opinion Level7Dreamer :) I have a lot of material on Christianity for several reasons…
-Christianity is the largest religion.
-I live in the US so most articles I find relate to it.
-There’s simply a lot of funny/interesting news that relates to Christianity.
Now, if someone else wants to contribute stories for other religions then please do so and contact me via the Contact page.
I find all religions equally bothersome and try never to show favoritism :)
gasmonso
June 8th, 2006 at 2:16 am
Interesting site man, I consider myself agnostic and i can definately relate to alot of your views on here. Personally I believe that the would would be better without any religion, because, religious fanaticism causes wars (such as the bullshit in Iraq), closed minded hatred (the gay marriage ban and the protesters in the north east), and it seems more of a servitude to me. More of a slave/master thing, and you can never actually see your master because he dosent exist. Anyway, Ive bookmarked your site and will be returning. Good job man, speak it for the rest of us.
June 30th, 2006 at 5:23 am
To miss quote the late great Bill Hicks pro life joke:
Religion really is a devise issue amongst my friends. Some of them say religion is evil. Some of them say its repressive. People lets come together… cant we just say that religion is evil & repressive!
June 30th, 2006 at 10:38 am
Religion fuels ignorance. “god did it” no longer carries weight as science gives actual answers.
Too bad more people didn’t learn to wipe your own ass and lose the superstition and fairy tales.
July 11th, 2006 at 4:33 pm
Dude you rock! Nice to see someone else on this planet has some common sense.
July 11th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
Thanks for stopping by Mekab… glad to have you aboard!
July 17th, 2006 at 11:35 pm
Nice work. If you haven’t already, check out Marshall Brain’s site, http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/summary.htm
He covers a lot of the same ground that you do, so I thought I’d pass it along to you. I found this bit to be quite moving: http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/god-challenge.htm
nwa
July 19th, 2006 at 1:41 pm
As for science providing “actual” answers, I would say not always. Even wikipedia’s article on carbon dating has shown it is only accurate to about 60k years, yet science would have us believe that it can date things millions of years old using carbon dating.
Evolution has peen proven - in regards to adaptation of a species to its environment. No argument there. The theory comes in when you argue trans-species evolution, which has not been proven. Having proof and being proven are two completely different things.
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On another note, I think that a symbol or idea can lose its original meaning, but that does not mean the original intent was not there. Before it was a Nazi symbol, the swastica had no intrinsic evil in its meaning, and was rampant in amy cultures. Yet now you wear a swastica and you are more likely branded as a neo-Nazi fascist than anything else.
I wish actively search for things other than Christian to call myself, specifically because modern Christianity does not, I believe, reflect the original intent of Christianity as outlined in Biblical teachings.
In that light, what may have been an acceptable non-aggresive system has been altered by ignorant people looking for some excuse to say they are better than other people. I think that in the pursuit of “perfection” and “elitism”, “Christians” forgot about love, and thus have made fools of themselves.
Keep up the good work, there is definitely tons of material ^_^
July 20th, 2006 at 10:54 am
http://home.earthlink.net/~owl233/biblequotes.htm
To Bnonn, the link above has some great quotes directly from the bible. Read up, then come back and tell us how well you follow the bible.
There are more christian nuts out there because we live in a country that allows religious freedoms. If you want to read about the religious nutjobs from around the world, read the news, you hear about suicide bombers just about everyday.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:09 pm
Our Constitution is called a “living document”, that has to be reviewed with “original intent”, why is it that the Bible, which itself says it is a “living document”, is not also viewed in this manner?
Would you expect a 3 year old kid to write Constitutional amendments? Probably not. They need to understand the history of the document, the history of the issue at hand, and be able to see what affects the change has for the future.
I read the intro, about the author not taking stuff out of context, and that “In no case does the context significantly alter the meaning, or the level of plausibility, of the passages.” I have to disagree with one example, though others could be provided.
For instance, the “subjugation of women” in Ephesians 5:22-24 sounds harsh, but the following verse 25:
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.”
In other words, the man is supposed to love the woman above everything else, and is to sacrifice everything for her. Is it any surprise that a failing by men of this has caused women to want to be “equal”, in that if men aren’t going to sacrifice everything for them, why they should continue to be “subjugated”?
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I find that linked site a bit arrogant. He is a “professional philosopher”, not a Biblical historian. On top of that, he doesn’t provide the context to compare, just states it doesn’t matter. How convenient.
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Please be careful about who you call nutjobs. Suicide bombers feel they are doing something right. People getting an abortion feel they are doing something right. Women working and going to school feel they are doing something right. People chaining themselves to trees feel they are doing something right. Yet in every situation someone somewhere thinks they are wrong.
Someone somwhere has a problem with something someone else is doing. Just because you feel its nuts, doesn’t make it so.
July 21st, 2006 at 2:43 pm
Fanatics, (aka nutjobs, crazies, etc…), kill people, they kill people because of what their religions scriptures and religious leaders say is right.
To me, killing people because God says so is pretty crazy. I don’t care if someone chains themselves to a tree, or if a woman decides that she needs to abort her unborn fetus, or if she decides that she wants to earn money or get smarter. Now if she said that she got an abortion, while she was chained to a tree, deciding whether or not to work or go to school because God said so, then I would say she was just a bit mental.
As for the link with the quotes, I’m not a biblical scholar, the point I was trying to make was that people shouldn’t follow religion blindly. Books are written by men, and the bible was written thousands of years ago. To take the bible so literally is to blind your common sense.
I was also trying to prove that “Thou shalt not kill” is also in a book that says that if you curse your mother or father, you should be put to death.
People will believe what they want to believe, others are indoctrinated to believe passages of books that 99% of their faith understand are archaic and aren’t meant to be read literally.
I understand that I used the term “nutjob” loosely, but seeing pictures of children, raised in the mideast, parading around with replica bomb belts on is absolutely bonkers. To tell me that the bombers are doing what they feel right is crazy too. If you raise your children to be racist, I bet they are racist when they grow up. If you raise someone to believe that God wants them to strap tnt to their bodies and blow up tourists in a nightclub, then I bet they will feel comfortable doing so, when asked.
Lastly, the quotes are simply quotes. I will give you the subjugation of women bit can be taken out of context, but I’ve only been trying to say that you can’t follow religion blindly and take things word for word. Explain how this passage is being taken out of context: “When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.” Deuteronomy 7:1-2 Doesn’t that passage give bible thumping Christians the right to invade non Christian countries and exterminate all of the people there?
July 24th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
Ah, I see what you mean. I think in a sense we are arguing the same thing, just that my being too ready to go on defensive skewed my view to think that there was a seperate argument. My bad ^_^
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Interesting quote you brought up. I have to say that no, Bible thumpers don’t have any right, through this passage, to invade and slaughter. I believe this because this was originally a message to the Jews, from God, as they were seeking out new lands.
The Jews had a habit of adopting the practices and rituals of the people they conquered. Since at that time, practices and rituals were the only way to please God, He made the command to eliminate the peoples in order to prevent a dilution of their practices. In that way, they would not be led astray and God could be pleased.
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I think you make a really good point. Most people take the Bible way too literally. For instance, much of the OT is a history lesson, and as such many of the messages were not directed to be applied by future peoples, but more to serve as a reminder of why things happened as they did.
For instance, the parents killing the kid seeming to be a contradiction with thou shalt not kill. In those days, before Christ, acts decided how God favored you. So, commit an act bad enough, and you were to be put to death. In those days, cursing meant a bit more than just the simple swearing we do today, in that a curse then was a calling forth of demonic powers to hinder the health and well being of another.
I have also found a better understanding of the “thou shalt not kill” as being better understood today as “thou shalt not kill with intent and without purpose.” Self-defense and war related deaths condoned by God were purpotrated (sp?) by men all throughout the Bible (Samson, Cyrus), but not without a reason or purpose behind the action.
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I understand that the Bible was written by men, and that when taken word for word literally, some very interesting problems come up. But, I believe that there were parts of the Bible that were meant as a lesson, such as parables or the history about the Jews in the OT, and were meant to convey meaning and understanding beyond the simple words. It is this theme, the ultimate message, that I believe is without conflict. That being “God-breathed” means many different writers were able to portray the same message, though through different styles and stories.
I dunno, a bit of a soapbox there, but thats how I understand it. I am usually ostracised by eletist “Christians”, who just want to pretend to be perfect and point fingers and sling guilt. I believe Christianity was originally “care not convert,” and I know that “Christians” have failed horribly at that.
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Thank you for the wonderful dialouge, I appreciate it a lot. ^_^
August 1st, 2006 at 3:29 pm
“husbands love your wives…..”
The joke is that someone would think this idea needs some sort of background or historical (or biblical) foundation. It’s called reason. If you don’t want your wife to leave you, love her. I guess if Jesus hadn’t said that we would have seen the “wife-rebellion” around the 8th century.
Rats, I take all that back. Calm yourself Donut…breath…10.9.8.7.6….there, all better :)
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:01 pm
Nice blog by the way!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:17 am
Here’s what I find hypocritical about the latest American anti-religious rhetoric… (and this is coming from an Agnostic Catholic) People like the detestable Rosie Oddonnel or the hater Bill Maher point out the so called dangers of fanatical Christianity but never say a negative word about the real dangers of fanatical Islam which to me is nothing more than politically correct cowardice. Let’s say there are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world (round figure)and 1% of them (conservative figure)are of the fanatical Islamo-Nazi type. That’s 12,000,000 religious fanatics who want to cut off the heads of the infidels (thats us). Where are the equivalent fanatical Christian counterparts that want to do the same? (barring a few fringe lunatics who are just plain nuts let alone “Christians”). Let’s be real here, there is no Christian ‘Jihad’ equivalent here. If you don’t want to be evangelized or donot accept the Gospel then fine! You don’t have to. You are a free individual living in a country with free speech and individual rights. Not so in the world of Islam, you either accept or die.
Furthermore, whatabout the dangers of radical environmentalism? Or the dangers of fanatical multi-culturalism gone awry or the radical socialist agenda et al, the modern day DEMOCRATIC PARTY (the leadership I mean) or the Globalist movement? To me these examples are a form of religious fanaticism also. I would be more afraid of a group of radical anarchists then a group of Christians any day. I see far more intolerance in the examples I have given than in Christianity.
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:26 am
Hey, I hate anyone pushing anything under the guise of their religion. So Islamic Suicide bombers, Christian Abortion Clinic Bombers, and Israeli bomber pilots in Lebanon all get my equal wrath.
Also, I don’t think that there were any Muslims in the National Socialist Worker’s Party… so its imposible to have Islamo-Nazi’s. Also since Islamic Jihadist groups favor guerilla tactics and cell-oriented fighting, there’s little chance of the politico-economic centered authoritarianism needed for there to be Islamo-facists either.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:17 am
To: icbkr,
I checked out the “skeptic” site and learned something.
There’s a section about alien abductions.
I found out that, when someone is abducted by aliens, they are returned to live as thumpers in the bible belt.lol
October 30th, 2006 at 5:51 pm
I hope you realize you’re hurting yourself by making this site, spreading this hate and giving up on your chance to truly survive this world before it’s too late.
BTW - From the brief overview I’ve seen while browsing this site you seem to lump Christians with Muslims and Jehovah’s Witnesses & Mormons and all that.
They are NOT the same and if you really took the time to find out why you’d realize that, hey, Christianity is the real path to God and the others aren’t…which is why they’re twisted and promote anger/violence/hate/wordly junk.
October 30th, 2006 at 6:05 pm
Hi Scott, just writing to say that your comments are interesting to say the least. But what I found most interesting was your claim that Christianity is the REAL path to God and all the other religions are not. That is a very bold statement if I’ve ever seen one!
Would you care to explain that statement and share with me how you know this to be true? There are billions of people that would disagree with you such as Muslims and Hindus. As a matter of fact, I would like to share this with the entire community to get their thoughts.
Believe it or not, my site attracts people of all faiths and is a very good place for people to exchange thoughts. I am not spreading hate as you stated, but I am providing a platform for all faiths to explain their views and engage in discussion.
I hope you seriously consider this opportunity to explain yours. Please use the “Contact” page and provide me your email so we can discuss this further.
Sincerely,
gasmonso
November 14th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
Interesting site. I’ll have to keep looking back. I’m a Christian, but I can see where lots of your ideas come from. Maybe I can write an article for you one day! :)
November 29th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Personally, I find religion in all it’s forms a cancerous influence. I find it laughable when Christians comment on others regarding religious influence yet in the turnaround fail to realize their own faults.
On top of that, no one Christian will associate himself with another. Personally a square is a square no matter how you turn it. But that’s just me in regards to all religion. What really angers me is when they make a stupid attempt to convince me that my beliefs are wrong. Then on the turnaround think they can quote the bible as a form of suitable literature.
I hate religion, I hate people who think their religion is the “one true” religion, I hate people who attend classes on religion to help promote religion. I hate people who tell me I’m going to catch a cold for not wearing a coat.
Like the temperature is going to cause me to catch a viral infection.
December 9th, 2006 at 2:09 am
Hating people for any reason will only feed a vicous cycle of yet more hate. What I think people fail to recognise is that no matter what the religion it is still comprised of people. People are not perfect beings and anyone who struggles to find a higher purpose in life other than hurting or hating people should be commended.
There is a serious lack of respect for life in the world that disturbes me. What does it matter if someone prays in a church or a synagogue or a mosque? If we teach our children to respect life and people no matter what happens then the human race stands a chance at being better. More than what we are.
If you only hate people then you end up hurting yourself. People who know you hate them dont care and if they dont know then whats the point? I would think very carefully about using words like HATE next time. Look beyond what you see with your eyes and see the truth; we are all human - start acting like it.
December 9th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
“What does it matter if someone prays in a church or a synagogue or a mosque?”
It matters; MANY religions breed Hatred, Bigotry and Racism. The rage he speaks of, we need; to remind us of the ever present insult that these schools of thought do to our Society. Ignorant people that passively dismiss this REAL MORAL dilemma are the real problem.
Wake up.
December 12th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
All this talk of good (real) christianity or bad (not real) christianity or good or bad islam or judiasm is moot. There is not god, people. Can’t you understand that? Even if there is a spiritual underpining to reality, no religion has acurately identified it. There is one spiritual idea I can agree with: If you think you know what or who god is, you’re wrong.
December 12th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
As i said before all religions are made up of people and if you could see that religion is not what you want to be upset with its the way people are. Why don’t you “wake up” and see that it takes a lot more from a person to be a human being and be nice to people than takes to preach hate against people.
In addition, the real moral dilemma is why someone would be so hateful to a group of people who really only want to reach for something better than themselves. Be a human being and show some compassion for the people suffering from the hate being born through small-minded attitudes blaming religion when they should be blaming themselves.
December 17th, 2006 at 5:06 am
Hmm… ‘proofNOTtruth’ can you give me the “proof” that there is no God? Can you Prove your statement? You can’t prove anything you have nothing to back up your statement. Those who follow a “religion” have something to back up what they believe, but your statement is blind. your “proof” is non-existant.
December 17th, 2006 at 5:31 am
“Those who follow a ‘religion’ have something to back up what they believe, but your statement is blind. your ‘proof’ is non-existant.”
Religious followers have nothing to back themselves up. I’ve already been through this very issue with several people. The underpinning logic is not at all complicated, and I’d be happy to talk you through it as it is all completely valid, self-evident, and relevant.
As to what proofNOTtruth is talking about, it is very simple: it is impossible to understand a supernatural thing (if any such thing exists) through natural means, and that’s not even the half of it. It follows that anyone who claims to posses knowledge of such a thing is unquestionably incorrect.
But of course people are prone to wishful thinking…
December 22nd, 2006 at 12:25 am
I don’t see why people are so angry with her claiming that she has seen God. That’s her belief, why dump all over it? As for her seeing a “white” God, who cares? If God really came to her and he was “white” does it really matter? Maybe God comes to others and he’s “black”, “brown” or “blue”. He could come as Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed, Allah, Jesus, or any number of other religious figures. Just because a person identifies the God that he/she sees as a deity of a certain faith doesn’t disqualify their vision automatically from being genuine.
Yes, the girl’s gifts are most likely genetically inherited. That doesn’t mean that she wasn’t endowed with these gifts by God through the mechanism of genes. Her visions might be due to some genetic trait as well, maybe her brain is wired so that she “sees” God. Again, that doesn’t mean her visions are false either.
In any case, her ability to “see God” might be due to hallucinations, but hallucinations aren’t necessarily unreal. They happen without an external stimulus but hallucinations don’t need to be associated with misperceptions of anything. If you close your eyes and you imagine some event occurring and that event actually happens in the future, it’s still a hallucination even though that imagined event turned out to be true.
It’s true that there are many who believe in God who don’t get visions of any sort, and there are those who don’t believe in God who do. Maybe it’s simply due to the way their brain is wired, due to genetics, or maybe there is a spiritual reason that’s unfathomable to anyone except God. I don’t think there’s any real way to know, though ultimately it lies up to the person who experiences something that seems divine, how important that experience is and whether it’s real to them.
As far as I’m concerned, she’s not preaching though. She’s sharing her experience, but she’s not giving advice to others to believe in Christ, in God, to repent, etc. At least not overtly.
It would be interesting if she let scientists examine her and tried to map what is happening in her brain when she gets these visions or paints, however.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:35 am
Religion is a remedy for the human mind, while existing in the human states of confusion and delusion.
January 24th, 2007 at 2:10 am
Religion is a Cartesian remedy [you-think-therefore-I-exist] strictly designed for those individuals who are afflicted with confusion and delusion; it is the self-centered, egotistical, and individualistic private remedy for the mind afflicted with confusion and delusion.
You think you are a focused and knowledgeable,
you think you know god, and then you think what is best for me…in your Cartesian solution to your problem with logic and realism!
January 24th, 2007 at 2:12 am
Religion is a Cartesian remedy [you-think-therefore-I-exist] strictly designed for those individuals who are afflicted with confusion and delusion; it is the self-centered, egotistical, and individualistic private remedy for the mind afflicted with confusion and delusion.
You think you are a focused and knowledgeable,
you think you know god, and then you think what is best for me…in your Cartesian solution to your problem with logic and realism!
January 28th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
I think most people here would agree that the only religion that makes sense is atheism.
February 8th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
As a Christian, I say BRAVO, SIR.
We Believers need you non-believers to keep us “honest”…or to point out our hypocrisy so that we’ll BECOME HONEST, to be our sanity check, and to frankly hold us accountable when we fail to live up to the precepts we CLAIM to uphold!
Give me the Christianity of, say, Mother Theresa or Abolitionism, pacifism or feeding the homeless, over the farce that passes for Christianity far too much, today.
Just a suggestion: there’s a program called “Alpha” that pitches itself as a “Practical Introduction to Christianity”. Designed for seekers and the non-believing open-minded, it is aggressively NON-CONFRONTATIONAL (I know, that sounds like a contradiction: non-confrontation is deeply critical to Alpha’s philosophy), discussion-oriented, and non-judgmental in its approach.
It could be a great opportunity for anyone UNDERSTANDABLY SICKENED by Christian hypocrisy to consider this program as a way to study this faith in more objective, non-believer-friendly settings.
Thanks again, keep up the great work!
February 19th, 2007 at 3:24 am
“ReligousFreaks was born in October 2005 by myself. Mostly, it grew out of my growing disdain for religion and the hatred and ignorance it breeds. The goal of ReligiousFreaks is not to incite hatred towards people of faith, but rather to foster interfaith discussion and understanding.”
LOL
Hahaha, you’re just like the worst of them.
At least I don’t buy your line of crap. Of course this nonsense is supposed to incite hatred towards people of faith! Do you actually think people are as stupid as you want them to be? You know, I know, and everyone else knows this farse isn’t meant to “foster interfaith discussion and understanding,” or whatever. You goddamn liar! LOL
You’re just another asshole in the world. Bravo.
February 19th, 2007 at 3:50 am
Congratulations Frank. You have managed to completely ignore some of the multi-page discussions that have gone back and forth between theists and non-theists on this board and have gone right to the personal attacks on Gasmonso. Hell, we’ve even had discusions between Muslims and Christians, taken on question and answer sessions, and let people make their own personal statements of faith (or lack of) be made into articles.
Sorry you didn’t bother to look at any of that.
March 13th, 2007 at 12:20 am
“Mostly, it grew out of my growing disdain for religion and the hatred and ignorance it breeds.”
“The goal of ReligiousFreaks is not to incite hatred towards people of faith, but rather to foster interfaith discussion and understanding.”
Pardon me, but it seems that your goal throughout this site is to give a warped view of Christian beliefs and turn people away from Christianity using these warped views and examples.
If you are interested in open discussion and not simply god-bashing, please email me. I was once atheist and am aware of many of the arguments used.
I StumbledUpon this site, but realize I will not be able to check it regularly, so if there is to be any correspondence, it will have to be through email. I also have a MySpace if you prefer that.
March 14th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
hey gasmonso Jesus hated Religion too! the more I live the more I hate it but at the same time I know God better. Religion in my book is mans attempt to make sense of things and try and earn something to make themselves right in Gods sight. Relationship is the truth! How can we know what God is like and what he expects. Jesus showed us. The Bible has said that the whole time but stuffed robes with no spiritual life have been modeling something different. Thats why Jesus got so Irate at the religious people of his day. They stand in the way so that others cant get to him. Im telling you Jesus of the Bible is the one who gives real spiritual life. He said the HE was the life, the way! I completely understand the hatred of what christianity has become. There has to be a revolution.
April 5th, 2007 at 7:04 am
I was rather impressed when i stumbled over this website! I
dont hate religious people and dont claim im not a hypocrite because hypocrasy is human nature but i do think that there is so much evil created by religion and soo much hatred circulated by religion that in the end the idea of being religious becomes a bit of a joke.
An atheist i may be but i genuinely would follow a god or religion if i felt that they practised what they preached and deserved my devotion but as far as i can see their is absolutely no pro for religion. Their is no greater evil then preaching about evil but not doing something about it!!!
May 15th, 2007 at 8:22 am
I personally believe religion is what devides every person on this earth. If we didn’t have our different faiths, our clash wouldn’t be visiable and then true peace would be exsistant.
I’m not slamming religion at all, because it is up to the person to make their own choice. I just have a story to share.
‘One day, a father gave his son a wooden statue of a god. He told his son ‘pray to this statue everyday and fortune will come your way’. So the son prayed and prayed and still no luck passed. One day he got so furious he picked up his statue and threw it against the wall. It shattered into pieces - revealing gold coins inside.’
MORAL - religion is a con
Believe what you wish
June 17th, 2007 at 8:51 am
Yes, the rest of us are getting concerned as well.
June 17th, 2007 at 11:48 am
Add me to the list.
I hope the moslems didn’t find him…
Anybody interested in donating to the “save Gasmonso” cause? We need to figure out his address first though…
Hope you’re well Gasmonso and back among us soon.
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:06 am
Gasmonso is alive and well it seems, working on another project called
http://psychicfreaks.com/
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:35 am
Hello alcari,
Actually, PsychicFreaks.com was an old project of his that hasn’t been updated for over a year.
Gasmonso has been very quiet recently. I’m afraid things might not be going so well for him. Let’s wish him well and pray for His second coming.
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:18 pm
hehe, oops, that’s a 6 there, at the end of the ‘2006′ whoops..
August 1st, 2007 at 11:07 am
The sad thing is when people use the Catholic church as an example of what Christianity is. No wonder the world hates us.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:34 am
Hello Scott,
I prefer today’s Catholic church to today’s evangelical mega-churches. But to me, that’s like choosing between one ton and two tons of pigeon shit. Oh, and the Catholic church is an example of what Christianity is, despite your insignificant doctrinal differences.
Lastly, the world does not hate Christians. Neither do I actually. What I do hate are some of the actions of many Christians, especially in the political arena. I’m sure you are familiar with the phrase “Love the sinner, hate the sin”. I have a similar stance “Love the Christian, hate the Christianity”.
October 30th, 2007 at 8:30 am
MODERN DAY CHRISTIANITY SERVES A FALSE GOD
Christians are constantly presenting a false God to the world. The God of the bible is nothing like the one you hear preached from pulpits and from mega evangelists on television and the internet. The One True God as revealed in the scriptures, was and remains a God of fierce love and judgment. Absolutely nothing has happened to change Him. In fact, He makes it quite clear to us that He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Today’s Christian Religion portrays quite a different God than the one we see in the Bible. The God of Christianity is soft and fuzzy, never angers, and allows the Christian to blatantly sin without recompense. All this they blame on one they call Jesus, their savior. (Another misleading name referring to the One True Messiah revealed to us in scripture.) Christians put aside scripture, and real life happenings and create their own set of laws and negate God’s judgment in favor of “free willâ€, and constant atonement for blatant sin.
After the World Trade Center fell on 9-11, days which the one true God judged the U.S.A. Christians were quick to blame it on, the Devil, or some fanatical group of terrorists. They invariably gave all the glory, or call it accredited, one other than God. The same thing happened after the Tsunami in the Near East wiped out so many heathen idol worshippers. “God wouldn’t do that!†was heard from the lips of so many Christians. Oh I know you will be appalled to read this but the truth is hard to bear more often than not. Unfortunately, our society has been brainwashed and misinformed by false teachers and ignorance stemming from the modern day Christian religion, into believing God has changed after thousands of years documented in Scripture.
All you need to do is read the book of Acts in the Bible to realize that even AFTER the resurrection of our Lord, God the Father slew Ananias and his wife for lying to the Holy Spirit. He smote King Herod, and Herod was “eaten by worms†for his failure to give God glory for his stature and power. He delivered the apostle Peter from prison and allowed the guards to be put to death on His account for the escape. The book of Acts is a reference for true believers to understand how the modern day church should function. In it one will find real life examples of believers exercising their God given faith, witnessing the power of the Holy Spirit, and the judgment of the hand of God in action. Above all, they showed a fear of the Lord that is all but lost to modern day Christians. In fact, one passage states that the fear of the Lord spread throughout the entire region! We have yet to see it spread through a single Christian church let alone a region! Everything the early church did and prayed for was directed at bringing God glory and manifestation of His kingdom on earth. If Moses was a modern day Christian, he surely would have stayed in Pharaohs’ household (ignoring his calling from God) proclaiming that “God blessed him so that he could lead the Pharaoh to Jesusâ€. Instead, Moses chose to serve God rather than have God serve him as with Christians today. Think on it and you will see the difference. A true servant chooses the path of persecution for the greater glory in heaven, while the Christians look for the blessing and reward today, falsely proclaiming that “God has blessed meâ€. Today’s Christian follows seed faith, and prosperity teachings and thinks God exists for their happiness and well being, rather than for His own glory. They preach about a savior I call Baal Jesus, for he is far too “mushy†to be the Lord of Hosts that the Bible teaches us about, Yashua the Messiah, now called Jesus. They will tell you lies about how Jesus never judges or condemns, only forgives and gives. Their Lord (Baal) is like the energizer bunny, he lets you keep sinning and sinning and sinning… ! The Messiah in the Bible got plenty fed up with liars and hypocrites! On more than one occasion He called the church leaders liars, hypocrites, a brood of vipers, and told them their father was the devil. Jesus Christ also took a bullwhip to the church people defiling the temple with their greed, buying and selling in the name of God. As a rancher I can tell you firsthand that a bullwhip is no laughing matter. The true Jesus meant business, and He took it to them! Today’s church leaders receive no correction for they have made themselves above reproof, and the churches enjoy opening bookstores and coffee shops right in the church! They make all sorts of lame excuses for their sin but the One True God is not fooled. Don’t you be either!
After 9-11, Christians worked overtime to counter that necessary fear of God to convince the nation that it wasn’t the God of the bible who caused that. The tsunami was a real life example of the scripture that says, “If My people will not praise me, the rocks will cry out.†(Says the Lord) If you do not know what causes a tsunami, it is the movement of the earth (rocks!) miles under the ocean floor. In essence, modern day Christianity has created a God that is contrary to the bible. They water down His word in an attempt to get more people to join their ranks, not to be truly reborn and sanctified mind you, but to become “Christians.†There is a huge difference! If you do not know God is a God of wrath, but only believe in the Christian god of mercy, love, and forgiveness, you will never know His mercy. Take this example of two people in an ugly disagreement. If either or both parties has a real fear of the Lord, it would cause them to search their hearts and examine each one’s own accountability in the matter. They repent as a direct result of that fear, and immediately reap the benefit of His mercy. They reconcile and forgive, as well as are forgiven. Because Christians have lost or never had a fear of the Lord, they cannot see the truth in that scenario.
In the book of acts, God took the life of Ananias and his wife for lying to the Holy Spirit and withholding some of the proceeds of the land sale. Other examples follow in the same book of God causing someone’s life to be taken from them. The aftereffect of God’s severe judgment was that, “They were all filled with a fear of the Lord and many believed and followed Him.†Modern day Christianity has created a God that is always “niceâ€, and they often say, “God wouldn’t do that!â€, when confronted with death and destruction. They have served up a false God to their followers, in an effort to win the more and hence the cult religion called Christianity grows. The road and the gate into the cult kingdom of Christianity is wide, everyone is welcome, regardless of the unrepented sin in their lives. But the road and the gate into God’s Kingdom of Heaven is narrow, and only those who seek to be holy as God is holy can tread upon it, so says the word of God.
The God of the bible is a God of mercy, and of judgment, a God of peace and a God of war, a God of patience and a God of wrath. In this He is complete, and by acknowledging the fullness of God one can retain a fear of the Lord and He will be glorified in their sight, in their households, and in their very lives. The Christian god gets very little glory for the things he does. Oh they put on a good show about glorifying their god in their song services and preaching. Yet in day to day life, they only glorify their god when they think he did something, “good.†So often I have been asked or overheard the question,†if God exists, and Jesus loves us then why does He let such bad things happen to little children� Most Christians will immediately begin to try and gently reason with the doubter, making excuse after excuse for their god. The true God does not need nor does He ask Christians to defend Him to the world.
A true believer, on the other hand, makes no excuses for the God of all creation. As it is written in His holy Word, “Who are you mere man to talk back to God? Shall the thing created say to the One who created it, ‘Why did you make me this wayâ€? I serve my God with fear and reverence, and He does not answer to me. I simply tell those people that God is perfect, and if they wish to use things they do not understand to remain separate from God then have fun in Hell. It is not my duty to try and convince someone God is just. I know He is, and that confidence is strength to my soul. To know God is to know He is perfect in every way. Whatever He allows to happen is perfect, and only by true faith and an infilling of His Holy Spirit can we accept and be at peace with all things. God sets forth the laws of life and man proceeds to violate them. Christians would have you believe that God circumvents His laws for them but that is a false sense of security. The Christian belief is that Jesus came to negate God’s law and allow them to sin and behave badly then still go to heaven after they die. That is why they will have such a sad awakening on judgment day. Jesus Christ came to fulfill all that His Father in Heaven commanded, and spoke through the Prophets. In doing so He will judge these Christians according to His Father’s law and find them guilty. Christians teach and are taught that Jesus waives God’s judgment for their sins, thereby allowing them to live a life of sin without further repentance. That belief is a lie. God said in Proverbs Chapter 30, “Do not add to His words lest He reprove you and you be found a liarâ€. “All liars have their place reserved for them in the Lake of Fireâ€. Those who are true believers in God will obey His word, studying it to “show themselves approved†by God. The God of the bible, the One True God, got glorified for every single word and deed He caused to happen, even the death and destruction chronicled for our benefit. Christians today are taught that God is here to bless them and keep them. They say the Sinners Prayer, and then go to a church where they are told Jesus is coming to “rapture†them out of the earth before God’s wrath hits.
But in reality, all throughout the word of God He warns us of the coming judgment on the earth. He clearly tells us that none will escape. He documented for our sake, the chosen people, that is, those who served the One True God, were tested, tried, tortured, tormented, starved, naked, ridiculed and imprisoned for their faith in Him. Not so if you are a Modern Day Christian. Life in Christ today is a free ride to them. There is no true sacrifice and suffering purely because of their faith in the risen Lord Jesus. Christians today only serve Him in their mouths. In truth, as one examines the lifestyle of a Christian today, their god serves them. It is all about what their god can do for them and what blessings and rewards await them. In contrast, true believers in God and Jesus are bond servants, or self willed slaves to the Lord. THAT is what separates the modern day Christians from True Believers. True believers know the fullness of God and do not accept the watered down version dished out from the pulpits of churches today. Next time you happen to meet up with a modern day Christian, ask them why they don’t give their god all the glory. Then ask them to shut up and just live it!
Excerpt from the book, “Spiritual Reality†by B.E. Elias
October 30th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Who the hell is B.E. Elias? I could not find him/her by Googling the name. Nor could I find any book by that name by any “Elias”. Anyway, the God described in your comment is an affront to our shared sense of justice and morality. Such a God is unworthy of worship or even reverence. If this ‘Elias’ is correct, I’m even more glad that I am not a Christian.
October 30th, 2007 at 9:06 am
sidfaiwu,
I am B. E. Elias, and you are correct the book is not yet published. The chapter above is from the unedited book which is where it is in that stage of publishing. Also, you are correct in stating the things you did about the Christian God. Be glad indeed that you are not a modern day Christian for their judgment and accountability is tenfold yours! I hope you are rather a seeker of truth, for if you are than the One True God will reveal Himself and His truth to you. The problem today is that Christians get in the way and manipulate the truth to steer people to them instead of God.
October 30th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Ah, that explains it. Let us know when it’s published, I bet it will be interesting.
October 30th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Stick around. I like this blog so far, I will be posting more chapters along the way…..
October 31st, 2007 at 1:49 am
Thanks RRock, i need a slap in the face. I look forward to more post from you.
“True believers know the fullness of God and do not accept the watered down version dished out from the pulpits of churches today. Next time you happen to meet up with a modern day Christian, ask them why they don’t give their god all the glory. Then ask them to shut up and just live it”!
October 31st, 2007 at 1:59 am
RRock, should we slap all our brothers and sisters because they are at a different stage then us, in there walk with their Lord & Saviour Christ Jesus?
Should we not encourage them to continue to seek after Gods will?
RRock, I agree with you in some points, but… I will read what you posted and say more.
Proverbs 27:17
Iron Sharpeneth iron; so man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:50 am
Michael,
“Those who do the will of my Father in heaven are my mother and brother and sister”.
Guess what? Going to church, tithing, and “changing” the Sabbath to Sunday are NOT the will of my Father in heaven. So I do not know where you fall in there but I do indeed believe in exhortation. As far as my calling goes, the people I direct the word to are not really brothers and sisters. They are Christians, not followers of the Lord or doers of His word.
October 31st, 2007 at 11:29 am
meh, all these beliefs are fully interchangeable. I ask you, how do you know what the true will of your fictional deity is?
October 31st, 2007 at 3:16 pm
alcari,
When you cease to be an antagonist, and if you ever become a true seeker, then I shall answer you, and that from God. I am not here to be toyed with nor waste time bickering. As I said before, the One True God needs no defense, and I offer none. Yet I am eager to be used of God to lead a seeker to the truth.
October 31st, 2007 at 3:22 pm
18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
October 31st, 2007 at 4:17 pm
“the One True God needs no defense”
Id say your “true god” does need defense if everything in sceince and reality says he doesnt exist.
October 31st, 2007 at 6:56 pm
RRock, do you believe that Christ Jesus is the Messiah? if you do believe this, then what would you feed a babe? would you give milk or meat?
RRock said, I do indeed believe in exhortation.
By force or by love for Christ Jesus? RRock, i apprecaite your zeal and it is nice to know you.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:26 pm
irishthunder Says:
October 31st, 2007 at 4:17 pm
“the One True God needs no defenseâ€
Id say your “true god†does need defense if everything in sceince and reality says he doesnt exist.
LOL. Good one. Better save it for your next party. LOL
October 31st, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Michael Hyrocket Says:
October 31st, 2007 at 6:56 pm
RRock, do you believe that Christ Jesus is the Messiah? if you do believe this, then what would you feed a babe? would you give milk or meat?
RRock said, I do indeed believe in exhortation.
By force or by love for Christ Jesus? RRock, i apprecaite your zeal and it is nice to know you.
Michael,
I think you need to understand that when I speak against the Christian Religion it’s because they are not followers of the true Messiah, Yeshua, called Jesus.
So in answer to your question about babes in the faith, I will assume you mean true believers, not the hypocrites passing themselves off as Christians in churches today.
The Holy Spirit knows what they need and will guide me or whomever in what to feed them. I was a meat eater from almost the very start.
RRock
November 1st, 2007 at 2:07 am
RRock, I would be happy to take the people you reject for by grace my Lord & Saviour Christ Jesus has forgiven me, for i am with the most debt.
RRock said’ I was a meat eater from almost the very start.
I am happy for you! for i had milk when i first started.
November 1st, 2007 at 5:19 am
RRock said:
haha, so you’re trying to tell people that your faith is the correct one, without actually saying why? Yes, that does indeed souond very christian of you.
You remind me very much of my 7-year old nephew. He also keep shouting about what he thinks/wants, but is equally incapable of having a discussion about it. The whole idea of this site to have discussions between people of different (or no) faith.
I’ve explained dozens of time why i’m an atheist, but that doesn’t remove the fact that i’m still interested into why people believe what they do. You however, seem to be incapable of expressing that, instead you continue to point out why christianity is wrong, without ever showing a shred of explanation (note: not proof, there is none) as to why you are correct.
So, again: Why are you right, and everyone else wrong?
November 1st, 2007 at 10:24 am
alcari,
“An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign but no sign shall be given it save the sign of Jonah.”
“You see me and believe, blessed are those who have not seen and yet still believe.”
November 1st, 2007 at 10:25 am
Michael, it is not I but the word of God which rejects the hypocrite Christians. Read the whole word Michael, not just the topical lessons they pawn off in churches.
Michael Hyrocket Says:
November 1st, 2007 at 2:07 am
RRock, I would be happy to take the people you reject for by grace my Lord & Saviour Christ Jesus has forgiven me, for i am with the most debt.
RRock said’ I was a meat eater from almost the very start.
I am happy for you! for i had milk when i first started.
November 1st, 2007 at 10:28 am
alcari,
What you continue to seek from me is what the Christian cult religion calls Apologetics. This is yet another practice not found in the bible, therefore I have not use for it. Again your motivation is antagonistic, rather than seeking truth, therefore you are what the word of God refers to as swine, and I cannot put pearls on you.
November 1st, 2007 at 10:59 am
Seriously, seeking truth does not begin with demand of submission nor have you even given one piece of evidence why your version of religion is any better than others?
So far it has been a recap of the old concept of blind subserviency and submission to something you are not even able articulate in short.
Forceful verbal assaults without clear concepts of what and why are merely static with buzzwords and not so different from various propaganda in the world.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:01 am
Thank you Jesus, for letting me love you, for making Thy presence known to me.
Never have I felt a love so true, like a blind man who was made to see.
You’ve given me a life filled with hope, in a world where I’d known only despair.
Cut me free from the hangman’s rope, bestowing a love and compassion no one could compare.
When I lived for myself, I learned how to hate, how to lie, hurt, cheat, and steal.
I cared not for my life, nor of my fate, only from whence would come my next meal.
Depression, hunger, hostility, and strife, lusts for money, women, and wine abound.
All these things were a part of my life, until the love of Jesus turned me around.
My Lord, you’ve touched me as no one else could, your grace and mercy saved a wretched soul.
Though I do not deserve a life this good, still you’ve delivered me from the very depths of Sheol.
My eyes have been opened to a glorious light, which emanates from He who dwells in my heart.
I sing praises to Thee for my reborn sight, for this spiritual life of which I take part.
How can I serve Thee? Oh Lord say the word, that I may be an instrument of Thy hand.
For you called my name, and I have heard, and shall take pride in serving my King, so grand.
Thank You Jesus, for letting me, love You.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:03 am
Jag,
Your words of worldly wisdom are nothing more than a house built on sinking sand. I pity you. Honestly.
November 1st, 2007 at 12:37 pm
LOL, again mere static
November 1st, 2007 at 5:48 pm
RRock, who killed Jesus?
I am curious, your prayer is wonderful…
When are you going to share that light? “My eyes have been opened to a glorious light”
When and how are you going to correct our brothers and sisters who you say are walking different from what the bible teaches?
“I think you need to understand that when I speak against the Christian Religion it’s because they are not followers of the true Messiah, Yeshua, called Jesus”
Is it about a religion or a relationship the Messiah?
What are you doing to spread the gospel far and wide?
Teach us brother, show us our wrongs and not just saying we are wrong.
November 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Michael,
No one killed Jesus, He gave His life willingly. He could have destroyed them anytime He wanted.
November 4th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
RRock, thank you for your response. Why did you add this to the answer.
“He could have destroyed them anytime He wanted”.
this is true, but you say this from your mind and not your heart. this is a pride that we have in us and we don’t want to seem weak to others that our God is humble and meek, because our creator loves everyone.
Jesus gave his life willing, why is the question. we are to spread the seed with others and maybe one day in their life they will remember it and see the life in his words. We live a life now, but some will not see the life in eternity.
Thank you for the cross for his death, he has is alive.
Brother RRock, in Mark 2:16-17
And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
November 4th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
“No one killed Jesus, He gave His life willingly.”
Even if he give he life willingly doesn’t mean someone else didn’t kill him. Otherwise jesus committed suicide and i know least the catholics wouldn’t be too cool with that…..
November 5th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Funny thing is this:
1 - God is almighty
2 - God send his son, so that ‘our’ sins may be forgiven.
3 from 1 –> God can do anything
4 from 3 –> God can forgive everything he want, including humanities collective sins.
5 - from 2 and 4 –> God sent his son to be horribly killed for no reason at all.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 am
ReligousFreaks was born in October 2005 by myself. Mostly, it grew out of my growing disdain for religion and the hatred and ignorance it breeds. The goal of ReligiousFreaks is not to incite hatred towards people of faith, but rather to foster interfaith discussion and understanding.
If you would like to learn more about me, please check out the Just Ask section where I answered various questions from my readers.
gasmonso
Okay, so you are someone who has a disdain for religion and you think that they basically cause problems, yet this website was created to provide good, clean, interfaith discussion? Maybe it’s just me, but it sounds pretty inconsistent since the reason this site exists is because of your very disdain for religion alltogether (according to you, not me). I just don’t think that you’re being honest, either that or you’re turned around in the head.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 am
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Rev 21:4
I really like this website. My Post and i don’t kick-out
;)
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 am
“And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death”
Then why does your god let so many innocent people get murdered in his name?
November 29th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
i looked around at your site and your about me…i’m a christian and I gotta say that I’m against religion too…Jesus was (the pharisees) and i totally agree…religious people are sinning hypocrites…just like you and me…but i just wanted to point ouit that it is prejudice to judge like that…also there are many christians who say that that they are but dont live it loud…also, i dont think many christians realize that they don’t just represent themselves…they represent all christians and even more God…i say that I am a christian because I choose to live my life completely for him…also i don’t have a religion…i have a relationship…and I want to leave a GOD impression everywhere I go…not a good impression…i, as a christian, represent the image of God that you get…
November 29th, 2007 at 7:28 pm
Howdy all,
Jade, I think I understand what you are getting out. However below is the difinition of religion.
re·li·gion (rÄ-lÄj’É™n) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
3. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
4. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
5. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion
I think number 4 would apply to yourself and alot of other Christians who claim to be against religion. I believe you have taken the meaning of the world religion out of context and used it as a label for groups whose actions or beliefs do not completely follow your own. Just because some you don’t want to be associated with other religous people does not change the meaning of the word. You have a system of beliefs supposedly handed down from your spiritual leader (Christ). That is a religion, its called Christianity. Irrespective of how you look at it the word religion applies according to its meaning. The growing habit of claiming to not be a reigion is merely a catch phrase devoid of any substantial meaning (at least in my opinion). Even the JW’s have started using this approach. So instead of saying you don’t have a religion. Show why your religous beliefs are better than others.
Cheers
Simon Bond
November 30th, 2007 at 2:21 am
Jade “i say that I am a christian because I choose to live my life completely for him…also i don’t have a religion…i have a relationship…and I want to leave a GOD impression everywhere I go…not a good impression…i, as a christian, represent the image of God that you get…”
Jade, Thanks for you encouraging words! Seek God with all your heart.
God Bless you my Sister!
December 10th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
I found this site randomly, read some of the articles, and see what’s going on here. We Christians are hypocrites. At least most I know, including myself. The Bible says that the follower of Jesus will want to be where he is. The Word tells us where Jesus is and where his heart is. He is with the lame, the poor, the blind, the naked, the widow, the weak, and the sinner. If I was with him, I would not have even have found this website to write this, I would be to busy being where he is at, and have too much joy and love in my heart to care about changing anything, changing others, but just being with my Lord Jesus and with those he loves. God loves me is all I know and it has changed me, and it not about me, me, ME anymore, it is about Jesus Christ and his Glory. I have seen people live this, and I would rather give my life to Jesus Christ and see what happens, then to live my life alone, empty, and afraid. I’m starting to know that I have never given my life to Him or my life would look completely different.
A good website to visit that I believe has the real-deal, Christians who aren’t hypocrites, is http://www.setapartlife.com
To read what real Christianity is about go to the sessions downloads http://www.setapartlife.com/session_downloads/
Also Paul Washer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8
Thanks
December 10th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Hello Drew,
“We Christians are hypocrites. At least most I know, including myself.”
Sure, we’re all hypocrites to some extent, the nonreligious included. But there is a difference between being a hypocrite and a Hypocrite. I’m sure your level of hypocrisy is normal human-level and doesn’t rise to the same level as some of the freaks featured in these posts.
I’d also like to note that Christian Hypocrisy is not the only type featured here. Muslim, Jewish, and even Hindu Hypocrites make appearances. But since the most common religion amongst English speakers is overwhelmingly Christian, they kinda steal the spot light on this English language blog.
Finally, you should check out the posts under the category Good Freaks. These posts highlight groups or individuals that interpret their beliefs in unusual and often more inclusive ways.
March 15th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
If the goal of this website “is not to incite hatred towards people of faith, but rather to foster interfaith discussion and understanding,” you are failing right at the first by calling people of faith “freaks.” You caught my attention, but it was not good attention rather frustration that you have never met me and yet, to you, I am a freak. You have isolated me, along with my beliefs, outside of your realm of acceptability and that will never foster interfaith discussion and understanding. But I thank you for your own hypocrisy - you see, it is not only the Christians who struggle with this.
March 15th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
So Lou, your going to dismiss this site in it’s entirety because the name of the site hurt your feelings? Every non-believer ive spoken with on this site has done plenty of research into all the main religions and reached a conclusion that just so happens to not be the same as yours.
By the way, it may not be that christians are the only people who struggle with hypocrisy, but they sure are a great example of what happens when you for some reason feel better about yourself for living your life in it.
March 21st, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Love this site and love the name!
May 29th, 2008 at 5:52 am
I’ve noticed that many Christians who post ask why Christianity is the focus of the site. I enlighten them with the observation that the site focuses on Christianity because it is set in a society that was founded by Christians and is inundated with Christian propaganda. If the creator of the site, and a majority of those who access it, were Muslim then the focus would be on that religion. Many Christians complain that their religion is singled out by other and they receive more censorship than other religions, but I would counter that with the observation that it is because it is Christian views that people are faced with and therefore becomes the focus of their dislike and censorship. Count the times you see Christian propaganda in a single day compared to any other.
June 13th, 2008 at 11:53 am
You must be uneducated, or have no desire for the truth if you simply take an old book as factual or even semi-factual.
If there is a God, not a single religion on this planet has even the slightest idea of what his/her true intentions ever were because God would in fact be perfect, and thus incapable of creating a world such as the one we live in.
God is an idea created by people in order to answer questions we cannot explain, and though we have evolved as a global society, religious people (namely Christians) are stuck in their no-way-out, long-winded explanation as to why things that happened in an old book cannot be recreated nor can they ever be proven factual. If one is to waste their lifetime in an argument based on faith alone, they might as well strive to prove that fossils are in-fact fake rocks put here by an omniscient being in order to “test” our faith. Hence, the Earth was not created in 7 days, and fossils alone should suffice to derail the bible’s authenticity.
If religious peoples simple admitted that their way of life is complete and utter bullshit, but it works for them and gets them through their day, I would be 100% happy with that explaination. But, don’t for a second insult my intelligence by attempting to tell me that the occurrences of the religious fantasy world are in fact truths.
If anyone honestly asks themselves simple fundamental questions such as “Why?”, or “How?”, religion quickly becomes an inutile option for a decent explanation as for why things happen.
The truth is, religion is no different than Santa Clause. Christianity is simply used as a cloak to hide the concept of a supreme being. A supreme being that may judge us, scare us, simply as a way to make people behave. After all, if everyone felt as though they were immune from justice the world would be in an anarchist state. Religion is necessary for that reason, in that it controls the masses of ignorant followers… but NEVER should it be taken as factual.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am from Turkey. I am a muslim.
I can’t resist to Jesus caricatures on your website (http://religiousfreaks.com/the-insurgent-jesus-caricatures/). I can not tolerate this kind of Jesus caricatures. Jesus is an islamic prophet at the same time. We believe he is a holly personality for us too. His name is written in our holly book, Qoran. Please annul the humiliating Jesus caricatures. This is not fair and this may cause an international religional clash.
Kindly Regards
Saltukhan DURA
November 5th, 2008 at 11:32 am
so glad to see someone fighting back!
November 5th, 2008 at 11:52 am
corina,
I’m so glad to see how ineffective your supposed “fighting back” is. The caricatures are still up here and elsewhere. Attempts by religious nuts to squelch them, including hacking attacks and even threats of violence, have utterly failed. That is great, and the efforts and arguments against religion are robust.
Religion is ridiculous, and deserves all the mockery that these caricatures represent. It’s high time that humanity moved on past silly religious fairy tales such as those of Islam and Christianity.
March 25th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
This one will keep your attention to the end…….It really makes you think……..
A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students, ‘Let me explain the problem science has with religion.’ The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
‘You’re a Christian, aren’t you, son?’
‘Yes sir,’ the student says.
‘So you believe in God?’
‘Absolutely.’
‘Is God good?’
‘Sure! God’s good.’
‘Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?’
‘Yes.’
‘Are you good or evil?’
‘The Bible says I’m evil.’
The professor grins knowingly. ‘Aha! The Bible!’ He considers for a moment. ‘Here’s one for you. Let’s say there’s a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?’
‘Yes sir, I would.’
‘So you’re good…!’
‘I wouldn’t say that.’
‘But why not say that? You’d help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn’t.’
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. ‘He doesn’t, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?’
The student remains silent.
‘No, you can’t, can you?’ the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
‘Let’s start again, young fella. Is God good?’
‘Er…yes,’ the student says.
‘Is Satan good?’
The student doesn’t hesitate on this one. ‘No.’
‘Then where does Satan come from?’
The student falters. ‘From God’
‘That’s right. God made Satan, didn’t he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?’
‘Yes, sir.’
‘Evil’s everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything, correct?’
‘Yes.’
‘So who created evil?’ The professor continued, ‘If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and ac cording to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.’
Again, the student has no answer.
‘Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?’
The student squirms on his feet. ‘Yes.’
‘So who created them?’
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.
‘Who created them?’ There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized.
‘Tell me,’ he continues onto another student. ‘Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?’
The student’s voice betrays him and cracks. ‘Yes, professor, I do.’
The old man stops pacing. ‘Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?’
‘No sir. I’ve never seen Him.’
‘Then tell us if you’ve ever heard your Jesus?’
‘No, sir, I have not.’
‘Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?’
‘No, sir, I’m afraid I haven’t.’
‘Yet you still believe in him?’
‘Yes.’
‘According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?’
‘Nothing,’ the student replies. ‘I only have my faith.’
‘Yes, faith,’ the professor repeats. ‘And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.’
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. ‘Professor, is there such thing as heat?’
‘Yes,’ the professor replies. ‘There’s heat.’
‘And is there such a thing as cold?’
‘Yes, son, there’s cold too.’
‘No sir, there isn’t.’
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. ‘You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don’t have anything called ‘cold’. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.’
‘Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.’
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
‘What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?’
‘Yes,’ the professor replies without hesitation. ‘What is night if it isn’t darkness?’
‘You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it?
That’s the meaning we use to define the word. ‘In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?’
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. ‘So what point are you making, young man?’
‘Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.’
The professor’s face cannot hide his surprise this time. ‘Flawed? Can you explain how?’
‘You are working on the premise of duality,’ the student explains. ‘You argue that there is life and then there’s death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can’t even explain a thought.’
‘It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.’
‘Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from monkey?’
‘If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.’
‘Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?’
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
‘Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?’
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.
‘To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.’
The student looks around the room. ‘Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor’s brain?’ The class breaks out into laughter.
‘Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor’s brain, felt the professor’s brain, touched or smelt the professor’s brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.’
‘So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?’
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. ‘I guess you’ll have to take them on faith.’
‘Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,’ the student continues. ‘Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?’
Now uncertain, the professor responds, ‘Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man’s inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.’
To this the student replied, ‘Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart. It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.’
The professor sat down.
If you read it all the way through and had a smile on your face when you finished, mail to your friends and family with the title: God vs Science
March 25th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Science Professor and Philosophy Professor are two separate professions. Don’t be a fool.
Heat and cold are relative terms based on our own variable perceptions. Temperature is a measure of the energy in a substance. For one to reach -485 F is a representation of a loss of all energy. One cannot go below that because one cannot have negative energy. Do not confuse relative terms with absolute measurements. Don’t be a fool.
Darkness an light are, once again, relative terms we used based on our variable perceptions. Light is actually a type of energy. Once again, one can measure the units of light as one would measure any type of energy. Do not confuse relative terms with absolute measurements. Don’t be a fool.
Electricity - The movement of electrons from a point of high potential to one of low potential.
Magnetism - Attraction of one ferrous object to another through a force generated by the alignment of said object’s atoms.
Don’t be a fool.
Life cannot exist without death. You cannot make an argument against one without making the same against the other. Don’t be a fool.
Death is the end of life. Inanimacy is the absence of life. Don’t be a fool.
The fossil record show the transition of many species from one basic form into another. One human lifetime is insufficient to view such a long process. The fundamentals of evolution, on a microbial level, has been demonstrated many times. Don’t be a fool.
The existence of the brain has been proven through scientific experimentation. One can cut the head open to expose the brain and probe it with instruments to measure the type and amount of reaction. Don’t be a fool.
A more fitting term is trust, not faith. Faith requires the absence of proof. The man obviously has a PhD, though not clear in what area, so one can trust he has knowledge. Don’t be a fool.
Good and evil are relative terms that denote the significance of an action in reference to the observer’s morals. Morals themselves are relative between individuals. Good and evil are a core example for duality since you cannot have one without the other. How can one recognize a good act if one does not know what an evil act is? Don’t be a fool.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
I want to thank Ally and Marc for my introduction in what it means when we my Borthers and Sisters become “lukewarm” neither Hot nor Cold for our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and proclamation of our Fathers love for us sinners, who are dead in their trespasses in their communion with Him, who has taken our filthy sins, now makes us acceptable to the surgeons knife of purification in sterilization for the works He wants us to do for the Kingdom to come. In my temptation I too can fall and have fallen into such lukewarmness of my spiritual relationship of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ- For he alone has given me, us Liberty in this world to see the Truths we once held as true. My brothers and sisters we are in a physical and Spiritual battle for the souls of men that Satan continues hold for feel good feelings in such blindness of the resulting consequences that lets them fall further into lust of their hearts-thinking it is the only way and are not worth nothing but what’s on a penny. but our Father has shown us this not to be true. Our Father’s love comes to rule and I am here to tell you to stand firm, let us be Hot or let us be Cold and let us be faithful to Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and i say hide and have fellowship alone, together come let us pray for the things that burden your heart.
Let us look to Him first for Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
I have feelings and i am Hot and Cold. If you follow HIS footsteps you are not a fool but in love- say with me “I’M IN LOVE”
March 26th, 2009 at 6:27 am
@ MarcDLS, thank you for that post, 127, I was thinking along the same lines but could never express them as eloquently as that, high five! :)
March 26th, 2009 at 7:31 am
chest bump for you ally post 126 and a fakie for Marc
March 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am
If you’re “open minded” please check out this web site!
http://www.searchseminars.org
I’m just showing some of the testionials from that web site.
Testimonials
Note: Names and some details have been withheld.
” … makes irrefutable sense.” Hindu/Agnostic, Graduate scholar, MD
” This just might be the truth.” Muslim, Medical Student, Dar-es-salaam, Tanzania
” Step by step logical deduction” Arden, NC
” You have set my feet on a rock.” Medical Student, Dar-es-salaam, Tanzania
” I had discarded religion and had gone into politics at the time of Marcos. Today I want to come back.” Air Force Pilot, Manila, Philippines
” Now I can see that there is a reason to believe.” Faculty, School of Medical Arts, Manila, Philippines
” This is the happiest day of my life. I now know which road to take.” Hindu, London, UK
” This is such a powerful presentation; I am so pleased.” London, UK
” This is first time someone has listened to my questions and answered them.” Chicago, IL
March 27th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Yeah, re 131, here’s another website for the open-minded.
It exposes just how violent and absurd some mainstream religions really are.
Religion is ridiculous.
March 27th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Wow, Ally - if you come here trying to sell that kind of garbage (and I do mean selling, the searchseminars website is all about selling), it’s clear that it’s YOU who needs to read THIS site, and not the other way around.
March 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
i have to agree with MacNTosh, Ally. Please explain Ally so i can understand you better. want to *bump chest* again?
March 30th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I’m sorry my friends, i was hoping that Dr. Pandit would have had his book to be read on-line by now. I saw his interview on TV and then i saw it on-line, either on you tube or google videos i don’t remember which right now. I was unable to locate it again to refer you to it. The closest i got to “free” info was on Ben Stein’s website at http://www.intelligentwonders.com (If you want it you’ll have to e-mail Ben Stein for it though). Ben Stein was surely impressed and Ben Stein is Jewish! this is his review :-
“Come Search With Me…”
“I first saw Dr. Pandit’s seminar in 2004, and I was awe struck. Here is a non-Westerner, Doctor, who on his own, decided to undertake a 20 year journey of discovery. He first spent 10 years discovering if there was a God; once he confirmed from virtually every possible loop-hole, that there most definitely was, he then spent the next 10 on finding out who this God is. He didn’t take any of his evidence lightly, as you can see, he dove into the fabrics of science and each religion out there to decide firsthand, on which one had it right.”
“Please request Dr. Pandit’s FREE DVD seminar to the left, as well as much more.”
…….
Re: Post 127 Please read 1. Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said … 2. Psalm 53:1
I found this quote and i agree with it!
“Millions of Christians have been intimidated by the high-sounding technical language of educated evolutionists, many of whom are vitriolic in their attacks on special creation. What we do need is more information on exposing the loopholes in the evolutionary theory; its base is so riddled with unscientific inconsistencies, often concealed under the gobbledygook of scientific jargon.”
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Re: Post 132 I thank you for that site man! It just increases my faith and shows that the person who designed that site has no clue about a loving God or the bible :(
However, if you or anyone is curious about the atonement (at one ment), i would highly, highly recommend this book
http://books.google.com/books?id=KOnRQ3hM8RYC
Chapter 3 just blew me away i was telling someone that i think Jesus Himself helped that gentleman put together that chapter; i still need to delve deeply into the entire book!
That chapter confirmed to me, based on the bible, that a loving God would never ever! burn His creatures forever and ever! An apostate church used that doctrine to scare people into the churches and a lot of people don’t check to see if the church leaders are telling them the truth based on scripture.
I want to ask you all something?
IF there’s someone who has, let’s say 100 children and about 20 of them came down with the most debilitating and contagious disease and that person has an immunity to the disease but the children don’t and that person offered those children a blood transfusion which would get rid of the disease. Most of the children didn’t WANT the transfusion and this disease is really really contagious and far reaching too (plus it causes them to be sooo deluded that they tend to refuse treatment once they contract the disease, though a few of the 20 did accept the blood transfusion but the rest of the 20 didn’t want it at all), so distance is not going to solve it, the only solution is total eradication and purification by fire just so that the rest of the 100 won’t be eradicated too. Should that parent annihilate the few or lose all the children?
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Whomever is interested in creation/evolution issues, this site has tons of info:- http://www.creation.com
I was looking at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution -
on the evolution thing and my opinion:- gobbledygook! and the print is soooooo tiny! I wonder why?!
March 30th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Ally, that’s a lot of jeebus link crap that you’ve spewed out in one post. None of it has any substance or support in science.
It is now incontrovertible that evolution is strongly supported by evidence. This is in no dispute whatsoever in the scientific community, despite wacko creationist attempts to sow doubt. It is no wonder that Christian wingnuts are so up in arms about evolution, since it so directly contradicts their silly creation myths.
In response to your latest link spew, here, as a PDF, is a position summary of the National Academy of Sciences regarding evolution. It’s a great read. From it, I quote:
“The discovery and understanding of the processes of evolution represent one of the most powerful achievements in the history of science. Evolution successfully explains the diversity of life on Earth and has been confirmed repeatedly through observation and experiment in a broad spectrum of scientific disciplines. Evolutionary science provides the foundation for modern biology. It has opened the door to entirely new types of medical, agricultural, and environmental research, and has led to the development of technologies that can help prevent and combat disease. Regrettably, effective science education in our schools is being undermined by efforts to introduce non-scientific concepts about evolution into science classrooms.”
Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.
March 30th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
*chest bump* Ally… yeah, gobbledygook!
March 31st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Korgan
I would love to see some of this testable data regarding evolution on a massive scale I.E > Macroevolution. As you say its pro science and you seem to be against any idea thats “nonscientific”. Anything besides examples of flies being genetically altered to grow legs on their head, species developing new traits,etc… None of these are proof that man evolved from an apelike ancestor. All they show is that species can adapt to their enviroment and sometimes quite drastically. It doesnt however show, in any way, that an animal can become a completely new species with new bodyparts and bodyplans in that we came from apes. This is all wishful speculation with little to no evidence to back it up.
Microevolution - (according to the dictionary) evolutionary change involving the gradual accumulation of mutations leading to new varieties within a species. This has been observed and shown to be true.
Macroevolution - major evolutionary transition from one type of organism to another occurring at the level of the species and higher taxa. This has not been observed and it most definitely has not been proven yet its the core of evolutionary theory. The PDF you linked gave no such evidence. It was full of speculation and assumption all starting from a naturalistic worldview. They gave examples of the similarities between man and chimp yet failed to explain how the millions of genetic differences arose. A 3 percent difference between man and chimp is MASSIVE on the genetic scale with regards to evolution. They may have similarities because the have a similar designer with similar mind, not because they both have a common ancestor. Just a thought.
Microevolution removes genes from the gene pool. Macroevolution requires adding new genes with special capability. You can’t get more of anything by removing some of it.
Regarding mutations I’ll quote an article I read that I think sums it up pretty good
“But for that to happen, the genes have to exist in the first place. Evolution depends upon mutations that produce genes with new, useful genetic information. Mutations don’t create new, useful information. Mutations cause information to be lost. Our second conclusion is that mutations cannot be the origin of more complex organisms. Mutations can only be the origin of less-complete organisms (like blind fish or wingless insects). Mutations can cause a species to devolve, but not evolve. (These are the only types of mutations yet to be observed, yet somehow, according to Dawkins, the EYE evolved upwards of 60 separate times. Miracoulous if you ask me.)
Our “whole thesis” is that science depends upon observation. Beliefs that are not supported by observation, and are actually contradicted by observation, are not scientific.
Deduction is not as reliable as observation. Deduction is the result of imperfect human interpretation of facts, often biased by emotion or prejudice. When deduction conflicts with observation, we will choose observation over deduction every time. ” - Scienceagainstevolution
Ill quote your article
“Sometimes traits change between generations. If a new trait results in an offspring doing better
in its natural surroundings and producing more offspring that also inherit the trait, that trait
will become more widespread over time. If the new trait makes the offspring less able to survive
and thus leave fewer offspring, the trait will tend to fade from existence. Natural selection is the
process by which some traits succeed and others fail in the environment where the organism
lives. For every type of life we see today, there were many other types that were unsuccessful
and became extinct.
Scientists no longer question the basic facts of evolution as a process. The concept has withstood
extensive testing by tens of thousands of specialists in biology, medicine, anthropology,
geology, chemistry, and other fields. Discoveries in different fields have reinforced one another,
and evidence for evolution has continued to accumulate for 150 years”
They have ONE paragraph on the fossil record and show a picture of a “transitional” bird. NICE. They somehow now this is a transitional bird with the just the bones and little to no other transitional examples between it AND birds. There a number of species today that show similarities in how they look but genetically are very different and COULDNT have a common ancestor according to evolutionary theory yet they somehow know for sure that this fossil is a transitional one for modern day birds.
Species show new traits or lose them depending on the enviroment. Creationists dont disagree with this at all. Natural selection happens but there is a genetic limit. The point of disagreement lies in whether or not this process can in the long create an entirely new species with new bodyparts, plans, etc… There IS ZERO data that supports this. It has NEVER been observed, therefore it has never been tested therefore it is not “scientific”. No one has seen a land dwelling animal become a whale. No one has seen dinosaurs evolve into birds and the evidence is quite lacking. Common characteristics in different species can suggest a common designer just as much as they can suggest a common ancestor. We dont think a bat is related to a bird just because they both have wings right? And with the impossible processes it takes to change from one species to the other, I think its more probably that they were designed. The same evidence is there for everyone, its just how the we best interpret that evidence. Go ahead and flame away and call me ignorant now.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
My bad people, this site is not Ben Stein’s site
“The closest i got to “free” info was on Ben Stein’s website at http://www.intelligentwonders.com (If you want it you’ll have to e-mail Ben Stein for it though). Ben Stein was surely impressed and Ben Stein is Jewish! this is his review :-”
but you can get the free DVD. Sorry :)
March 31st, 2009 at 8:58 pm
No Markus, you are not ignorant, or not especially so. In your case, it is your deduction that is flawed. The fossil record really does provide clear evidence for evolution, now with many transitional forms included, and you really do have vestigial traits in your own body.
Religion is ridiculous.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
All humans need to work toward recognizing our commonalities (and how much more prevelant they are) than our differences. You can root just about any humankind problem in this respect (war, genocide, murders, hate crimes….many in the name of religion and often the name of the Bible (or the book that is human as the people who wrote it, trasncribed it, translated it, and filled in missing pieces—taught to me at Virginia Theological Seminary by a Presbyterian-PCA-minister). A good book, but not the cookbook of life. I was raised in a church to love and respect people of all faiths and religion and just simply as human being. Glad I can read and agree or disagree with what I find. Gives me strength and dialogue in another place. My church does the same–it is ok to doubt, disagree, discuss, even outright argue–and in the end we (different opinions) appreciate the other is there). And we participate with congregations of different faiths. Good luck with your site and job search
August 13th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Great site! Glad you have started this.
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October 8th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Nice Website Gasmonso :), it reminds me of Beliefnet and Beliefcorner.
October 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Fantastic website!
I’ve been trying to find the Family Guy Evolution v Creationism vid for ages!
Thanks!
October 19th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
It would be nice if there was a bit more honesty by the creationist brigade about their motives for attempting to undermine Darwin’s theory. It’s nothing to do with lack of evidence (if they were really so keen of evidence they certainly wouldn’t believe in the theory of God). It’s quite obvious that it’s because Darwin’s theory is a major threat to their belief system.
The Christian arguments fall flat on their face for their total lack of integrity if nothing else.
February 24th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I’m not seeing in any of the pages I looked at “intelligent” or “thoughtful” discussion. All I see, and all I continue to see ARE the flame wars you said you wanted to avoid. Having logical, thoughtful, intelligent discussions are fine, but belittling someone else’s religion or lack thereof, isn’t “thoughtful” or “intelligent”, and certainly stating that your way is the only way, or implying such only proves hypocrisy, since it’s the same thing people bash religious types for - spreading the “good word” of their faith.
February 24th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Gregory, piss off with the “good word” lies. Religious superstition such as Christianity is evil and dictates that evil be done. Check out history like the crusades and witch burnings sometime, you ignorant twit.
It’s 2010. Fuck your stupid sky fairy stories.
April 8th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Hi i’m 20 and I live in the UK i was brought up in a buddhist family we practiced Nichiren Daishonin’s Buddhism I do not chant anymore but i still hold on to alot of the basic values. I can understand if you are from the USA it would be very easy to get angry with christians as it is clear that ignorance and biggotism should not be accepted in the name of any religion, and this seems to be happening alot in the name of christianity in the US. However if you pride yourself on being a decent, evolved, inteligent, human being, then you should consider the following…
Creating a site called ‘Religiousfreaks.com’ and finding any example of extreme religious fanatisism you can in order to ‘Fight Back’ against ‘Religious Freaks’ You are engaging in exactly the same Ignorant, Close minded, Hateful behavior of the people you are criticising.
Why don’t you just be very loving and empathetic towards christians? Show you don’t have to be a christian to be a kind and forgiving person. You can still disagree with them but do it in a civil manner even if they don’t respond likwise,
TAKE THE HIGH GROUND FOR GOD’S SAKE!
I just don’t think this site is getting us any closer to our ultimate goal HEALTH, HAPPINESS, & FREEDOM !!!!!!!!
(for all 6 billion of us!)
July 5th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
It’s a honey of a pot.
Just google me.
July 12th, 2010 at 9:12 am
If we are lucky we have 60 to 80 years on this planet as conscious beings, if somebody is a kind friendly person then it shouldn’t matter what religion if any they belong to.
I for one would like to live in a world where religious and irreligious people could live side by side without ridiculing one another
July 12th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Sean, pleasant thoughts and harmony would be wonderful, but problems are inevitable when one religion presents the choice as death if you don’t join it (just to cite one example) and others are pretty violent too. That being the case, the friendliness can only ever be superficial.
Seems like we are better off without religious beliefs. They all just seem so arbitrary and contradictory too.
August 18th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
She’s a honey all right. Sickly sweet, and sticky. Deep and cylindrical too. And oh, what a handle. That handle…
August 25th, 2010 at 7:38 am
On the internet, everyone knows where the dog is.