Muhammed Caricatures
UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE
UPDATE Feb 4, 2006: MUSLIM RESPONSE IS HERE
Here is a permanent home for the 12 Muhammed caricatures that were printed in the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten. If you don’t have a sense of humor then leave. They are just cartoons and nothing more. Comments will be enabled on here so please feel free to leave them. Keep it civil and please don’t storm my website with RPGs and machine guns. Oh, flag burning is unacceptable aswell. But feel free to boycot my site as that is a peaceful means of protest.
UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE
ı am hacı cav cav,bre devşirmeler hadi anlayın bakiim yazdıklarımı size küfür falanda etmicem,siz down olmuş adi yaratıklarsınız.hadi len çözün bakiim bu dili türkengilizarnavutcaları sizi
Dick Head Says:
February 9th, 2006 at 7:06 am
P.S
Would an islamic country publish the bible like the BBC did with the coran ?
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Dear Dick Head [your nick made me smile by the way],
What is an “Islamic Country”? If any country has ruled in an Islamic way, it should protect various voices in it. This is what Qur’an says. ..justice…. but where is it? I do not see any justice. Not only so-called Islamic countries, but also in each part of the World!
practically, the majority of the World is being governed by the self-seeking politicians and stupid media barons. ..The politicians who just want to protect status quo and their “privilages”. In fact, I think they even do not seek their selves… if they had their self-interest, one could be see that it is dependant to the others. …anyway.
In Turkey – who claims to be a secular country-
you can buy a Bible at 50 per cent of the bookshops. And in Istanbul (a big city of Turkey), there are people who give Bibles for free, to suggest Christianity.
….There are not bookshops in villages. So not the every muslim read Bible in Turkey. …But, there are illiterate people who do not know reading and writing, too. In another page of this site, I’ve read an article written by an Egyptian muslim. She wrote that %60 of the population of Egypt are illiterate, too.
I do not think that being able to read and write makes someone more “human”. There’s something like “oral tradition” and it is sometimes richer than the textual productions.
So, I can just answer your question for Turkey. Yes, Bible is not something that is forbidden in my country. It is free and can be published.
I think, the “our country is better” kind of perspective, is very dangerous by the way. Peace for all of us.
ı am takoz ben ingilizce,fransızca bilmem ı am takoz dedik ya ben de bu siteyi çökertmemmi lan,allah hepinizi nasıl biliyorsa öyle yapsın.hepiniz dul kalın inşallah,
ı am baltazar siz ne güzel ingiliz konuşmak,ulan bu şerefsizlerin dili bile bize haram,hepinizi polat abime söliycam lan
The world is changed.I can feel it from the air.
arm, If all people share your way of thinking it will surly be a better world.
Yes, I think that Turky although with a majority of muslims is an example of a free secular state.
To DickHead,
thank you for honouring me. :)
When the ways of communication are opened, people can understand each other. Not necessarily agree.. but understand. I think.
At some point, I wish you could understand, how such caricatures with a Prophet with Osama-bin-Ladin face(a terrorist) irritate me….
You might think that irritation is ridiculous, but I wish you could understand. But ok, it’s not a big deal! I wish that newspaper could see it. And, the governors saw most of the “picture” before these violent acts happened. I believe that they figured out the results, ….but some people – I do not know how!- can ignore other people’s pain unfortunately. I learned that 11 people all over the world has died because of the protests, etc. And that does not make me feel better,… there are more people like me in so-called muslim countries. And since I do not have a wide medium, I do not know the number of people who thinks like me and like you. If we are the majority, :) if we’s show it, the world would be more fun.
lets have some cartoons of JESUS hah?some badly damaged cartoons of your prophet,whereas we also believe in him and respect to him and believes.There is only one deep aim of these happenings.To measure how a big response will occur,so basicly,so your minded!!!You already talk about wars,you already two sided,where your belives are so important and need respect,trust me,our believes need more than yours…THIS IS NOT ONLY A CARTOON SHOW BOYS!!!You already know that hah??Wake up and leave that silly words,”ooo they are only cartoons”.Now make your own cartoons with yourselves before we come there.Do you remember what had happened when we once were there?
[Shamus, I made a translation of your message into Turkey.]
Danimarka’dan Shamus diyor ki:
Benim fikrim şu, yanlışsam lütfen düzeltin, ya da eklemek istedikleriniz varsa ekleyin.
Bence geneleme yapıyoruz ve yapmak zorundayız. böylece asıl resmi görebiliriz. fransızlar kibar diye biliyoruz. peynir kültürleri, şarap vs. genel olarak, bu doğru, ama istisnalar var tabii ve bunu tüm milletler için söyleyebiliriz.
müslümanlıkla ilgli olarak, iki ayrı fikirleri var, radikal fikirler(asma, kesme yanlısı uçlarda gezenler) ve normaller. Çoğunluk olduğunu sanmıyorum. Radikal fikirlerde olanları her gün tv.de görüyoruz. çünkü -bizim kıstaslarımıza göre- yanlış şeyler yapıyorlar. adam öldürüyorlar. bayrak yakıyorlar. normal olanları görmüyoruz. çünkü -bizim kıstaslarımıza göre- yanlış bir şey yapmıyorlar. kimseyi vurmuyorlar ve binaları yakmıyorlar.
Bu karikatürler bir danimarka gazetesinde yayınlandı. Danimarka baÅŸbakanı bu olaya dair üzüntülerini bildirdi ve olayı kınadı. Ancak gazete üzerinde bir yaptırımı yok. Gazeteye “sen bunu yayınlama” diyemez. bizim, fikir-ifade özgürlüğü dediÄŸimiz ÅŸey bu.(ve, danimarka gazetelerinde, aÅŸağı yukarı her ÅŸey hakkında karikatürler çıkıyor ve her ÅŸey espri konusu yapılıyor!)
Yani, bu durumda, danimarkalıların genel fikrinin başbakan tarafından temsil edildiği gözden kaçıyor. gazete danimarkalıların sesi değil. temsilcisi değil. danimarkalılara sunulan bir yayın.
Yani, bu karikatürlere kızan, incinen biri, gazeteyi hedef almlı ve eğer istiyorsa gazete ile mücadele etmeli. Onun zararını düşünmeli. Bizim gibi ülkelerde böyle oluyor. Elbette istisnalar bulabiliriz. Ama onlar istisna olur.
Binaları yakmak ve insanları öldürmek, cinayet işlemek, kabul edilebilir bir şey değildir.
imza: Shamus
not: karikatürleri küfür olarak algılıyorsanız da, tüm danimarkalılara ya da yabancı gördüğünüz insanlara küfredip de rezilleşmeyin.
bu ne yaa bunları çizenlerin derdi belli…
evet bencede belli oldu artık 3.dünya savaşının sebebi…
akıllı olmalıyız sağduyulu omalıyız yoksa bu iş bence hiçde iyiye gitmiyor
korkuyoruz yaÅŸadığım dunya adına ….. biraz akıl biraz akıl
I think Denmark Government can not perceive the consequences of these caricatures which insult 1.5 billion muslim which is 1/4 of the world population.By looking at the very simple causes of the other wars, it is obvious that these caricatures are more than enough to start a new world war. Denmark goverment does not even apologise for what happened and I can not even think how they react if same caricatures are drawn for Jesus.
If we look at history we will see the crusades more than jihad.We see that all the imperialist war has been made by christians.I do not mean you are more “terrorist” but you must see that people can be murdurer and this does not mean his region or nation is murderer.They can do it for islam but it doesnt mean islam is that.Anyway my point is every ergion has unchangable rules and this is one of them.It’s not about caricatures, it’s about drawing.Hz.Muhammed(sav) can not be drew.Its the islamic rule.Suppose that Hz.Muhammmed can be drew but how can you draw him as a terrorist.That is the point.This is unadvocatableand please do net advocate that…Greets from Turkey…
Arkadaşlar lütfen onlar gibi saçma sapan küfürler savurarak onların seviyesine düşerek cevaplar yazamayın
I do not believe that this caricatures are about Muhammet. It goes further then that. It is how Westerns see Muslims. Perhaps How they want to see it. How can we call this kind of general statements as “freedom of speech”? Is it sociologically correct to derive general statements about billions of Muslim based on the examples which is created by theirselfs( like Bin Laden)
Bakıyorum ki herkes uç noktalarda..Yaa en alt seviyedeyiz veya en üzt seviyedeyiz. Belli ki birileri veya birisi, “Ä°slamiyet” ve “Hz.Muhammed” (S.A.V) hakkında hiçbirÅŸey bilmiyor. ÖğretememiÅŸiz, sanırım yine suç bizde. Bu benim düşüncem. Taklit veya karalama, acizlik ve o konu hakkında çekememezlik, kompleks varlığı ve diÄŸer psikolojik sorunlardan ileri gelir. Bu vatandaÅŸ, karikatürist, her ne karın aÄŸrısı bir zat ise, birgün bu çizdikleri ile ilgili çok zor bir sınava girecek, ben bundan adım kadar eminim. Kaldı ki pek tabii birçok baÅŸka sebep mevcuttur bu çizimlerin yapılışında.Umarım amaçlarına ulaÅŸamazlar,ben Atatürk’çü bir Müslüman olarak, ulaÅŸamayacaklarından eminim.Bu kadar büyük bir gücü ne avrupa birliÄŸi ne de baÅŸka bir birlik karşısına almak istemez.Bana böyle bir aptal gösterebilir misiniz ? Kısa ve öz olarak basit bir cümlemle son veriyorum yazdıklarıma..Allah cezalarını versin , verecektirde…
Saygılarımla,
arm #607, My point is, I am a Christian (Roman Chatolic) If the cartoons were about the Christ, who we belive is God, I would still disagree if violent protests took place.
arm
PS
I respect all religions and have friends from different religions. However I disagree with fanatics.
do you have to draw these cartoons?what is your profit?why are you playing with the intensive feelings of people?maybe you can say that you do not expect such a reaction but now you see it and to me now the solution is to apologise from muslims otherwise it may causes to big problems.every human being is free in what he believes or not to believe in anything but he has no right to create a chaos by attacking one anothers belief.
where do you know MUHAMMED’S (SAV) live? Are you muslim? Or you are lier.
i think all of you are bitch.
feridun, I run this website at a loss as I do not even cover server costs for all the bandwith. But that doesn’t matter as it is not the purpose of this site.
I chose to show these cartoons because they became a media sensation and are a part of history. These issues need to be brought to the surface and discussed like adults. If we can’t discuss caricatures about Muhammed in a constructive manner, how can we possibly handle larger issues that will come down the road?
What I have done may appear to be offensive, but that is surely not my intent. Opening a dialogue where people from all over the world can express their opinions without fear of censorship is what I had intended.
gasmonso
where do you know MUHAMMED’S (SAV) live? Are you muslim? Or you are lier.
i think all of you bitchh
Thanks arm for your words!
(This is a nice way to start saying my opinion ;) )
Another idea:
I know now that it is forbidden for a muslim to reproduce the face of the profet. So, for a muslim it’s an important sin. But for a non-beliver this is not a sin. The muslim extremists got mad about this, all the muslims should get mad. I understand that. As I would get mad if someone will try to hurt me, to insult me. It’s a natural response to an attac. But it’s a long way from feeling mad and to kill or destroy stuffs.
We live in a world where everithing is a subject of joke. Jesus in jeans, Jesus drest as a devil, and so on, no one can stop that!
The belifs of muslims doesn’t apply to all the world. And the countries are guverned by laws, and not by religious ideas.
The general idea is that for a muslim it’s a sin to make this cartoons, but for someone who doesnt belive in Allah is not a sin. So you cant make him act the way you want. All you can do is talk with him, ignore him or sue him. those are the best reactions that the muslim comunity should have.
What do you care why these cartoons are made for?! If is not in your interest, ignore them! As you ignored the cartoons that ware made to insult Jesus. Say that these peoples are stupid. don’t buy the newspaper!
Allways will be someone who will disagree with you, allways, but this is not a reson to kill him! Allways will be someone who will insult you, but you dont kill him!
do you have to draw these cartoons?what is your profit?why are you playing with the intensive feelings of people?maybe you can say that you do not expect such a reaction but now you see it and to me now the solution is to apologise from muslims otherwise it may causes to big problems.every human being is free in what he believes or not to believe in anything but he has no right to create a chaos by attacking one anothers belief.
And thank you gasmonso for keeping this site.
Well said gasmonso #619.
Thanks for the effort. The bigest problem is the metality in the different cultures.
However I still think that this cartoon issue have been blown out of proportion.
Showing respect to people’s belief is the most important thing in the world.. Even If you don’t believe, you have to show your respect. This is not because we want to, just because you claim that you’re a human. Respect is a thing that is present in human’s nature.
Well, If you are a human, behave like you are. If you are not, just pretend like a human..
Rpg Cannoons or anything else are about terrorists. Not about Islam. This cartoon thing does the same effect as cannoons. Are you terrorist ?
fuck youuuuu denmark
gasmonso, ı do not say anything to the one who create this website even it also causes to make us see these cartoons unwillingly just because of wonder.its definetely a good idea to create such a place to let people from all around the world know each others thoughts about this situation but to me it should be better to do this without these caricatures.with regards…feridun
Respons to Ali Cevik:
I dont think that I have to respect all peoples beliefs. There are peoples who belive that they must suicide to reach the heaven. I dont respect them, as I don’t respect no one that takes lifes because he is from another religion.
a.k. burayıda mı işgal ettik lan. bu arada danimarkaya kafam girsin
i cant believe what 5 and 16 had said.they say that One little cartoon and muslums are ready for an all out holy war. Who are ready for war arent muslums we saw it from Iraq, who are ready for war are Usa and England
HEPÄ°NÄ°Z OROSPU Ç.SUNUZ BU KADAR KÃœFÃœR YEMEKTEN EMÄ°NÄ°KÄ° ZEWK ALIOSUNZDUR…ŞİDÄ° KEYFÄ°NÄ° ÇIKARIN BN BÄ° KARÄ°KATÃœRÄ°STÄ°M VE AAYNI ÅžEYÄ° SÄ°ZE YAPICAM Ä°BNELER SÄ°ZÄ°….
Tanseem
We can only apply that way of thinking to religion if there is a vehicle for tolerence of other peoples beliefs.
Unfortunately, the worlds religions are growing more fundamentalist and more intolerent. This is especially the case in the big three but it is even happening in Bhuddism.
I am afraid that currently, all religion teach intolerence and that, if someone doesn’t believe in your faith then they are an infidel and sub-human.
Even the Jews do it, they claim to be the children of God. God’s “chosen” people. Which means, that if your are not a jew then you are a lesser man.
The same goes for Christians, if you don’t believe Christ was truly the son of God, then you can not obtain access to his father. “The only way to heaven is through me”, Jesus claimed.
The same with Muslims. The problem is that the Muslim groups themselves are so fractured they war with each other over which ones truly worship Mohammed correctly. Muslims can’t even embrace another Muslim as an equal if he worships differently.
For some reason, I still don’t know the answer as why this happens, this turns into a political issue. Muslims are violently prostesting against the US for cartoons solicited by and printed by the Danish!!
Why??? The US had nothing to do with it? It’s power….the religous leaders know they can spread hate and foment about the great devil, the US and they use God in their bidding.
Americans are scum and infidels because we don’t believe in God the way you do. That’s what Muslim leaders are teaching. You can’t deny that.
So how are we supposed to get along and tolerate each other, when your own leaders are teaching that I am sub-human?
I’ll make a deal with you, I’ll stop calling you a religious freak and stop discounting your point of view, if you stop calling me an infidel and making me a lesser person for my beliefs.
That’s not directed at you personally Tanseem but meant figuratively.
#626
“feelcool Says:
February 9th, 2006 at 9:35 am
fuck youuuuu denmark”
What words of “wisdom” !! Some folks can’t say anyting better than “fuck”
ImDone #632
You “hit the nail on the head” my friend.
i don’t respect charicatures.have you ever seen a muslim making fun any other religion.bu arada sunu da belirtmek isterim sewgili turk kardeslerim siz onlara küfrettiÄŸinizde onlardan farklımı oluo.her ne kadar demin baska biseyde solemiÅŸ olsam hepimiz ateist fıkrası anlatmisizdır yada bi inancla ilgili aynı onların yaptıııı gibi öylee diiiiilmii
Turkey is not iran. fucking religious stupid peoples fuck off to iran.
Feridun, I understand the cartoons are of a sensitive nature, but I feel they must be displayed in order to have a proper discussion. It’s quite difficult to discuss the cartoons without actually seeing them. We are all adults and should deal with the sensitive subject matter appropriately.
gasmonso
these are bull shit how dare to do it i think who draw those pictures is a ateist because who believe in GOD doesnt draw like that things it is my opinion support or not
bu hareketi saÄŸduyulu ve modern olduÄŸunu iddaa eden batıya yakıştıramıyoruz zira modernliÄŸin gereÄŸi de bir diÄŸerinin fikrine inancına saygıdır aslı inkardır…
i am muslim , i believe CHRIST , JEW , DAVID , MOHAMMED …
we have to respect all the prophet
bucat, the three points are for what? How can you decide what to respect and what not? This is up to you, as is up to me to decide what I want to respect and not. You can not impose to someone to respect the same thing as you.
BU KADAR Ä°NSANI BOÅžA UÄžRAÅžTIRAN GALEYANA GETÄ°REN Ä°NSANLARI KAOSA SÃœRÃœKLEYEN BU KARÄ°KATÃœRÄ°STÄ° ALLAHA HAVALE EDÄ°YORUM……..
ı am muslım and ı am turkısh. you don’t have honor.. türkçe: iki paralık ÅŸerefi kalmış gerizekalı zihniyetler..
shamus,i wrote my opinions that all
bucat – I meant no harm.
Honestly I disagree with the cartoons, but I’m happy though that I live in a country where people can print allmost everything that they want.
no coment bro…..
Hi again Shamus,ImDone, DickHead and gasmonso.
Shamus, you’ve said “But for a non-beliver this is not a sin.” Yes, this is not a sin for a non-believer. But it makes some people angry. Some people perceive these drawings just like swear actions. To me, if someone gets rude to me, I just feel sad for me and for him/her and for the time that we’ve lost.
But, for some people, being sweared or being ridiculed is an issue of life. Just like some of the hooligans in G.B. I do not accept fanaticism in any way. I can not support killing somebody just for a caricature. I am just not happy with the rudeness which encompasses our world. And as -he- said “This is a wild world” …unfortunately true. And in such a world, people from every country should act reasonable. If some part of it acts without considering others, then masses show agression. I do not support it. I try to draw a picture of what I see.
If it seems to be unacceptable, portraying some other religion’s prophet as a terrorist does not seem to me reasonable. [by the way, I am not sure if there is any surah/text that forbids to draw his face. This might just be tradition. But, it might not be, too...] Especially, when somebody draws a prophet as a terrorist or by saying “…no virgins…”; then it does not make muslims smile generally. And some gone-s crazy. Some burns buildings. So many stupiditiy among people appear. Think about your country. I do not know what is seen as “holly”,…so I’ll speculate. Let’s say, one day, a performance art group “Ali” from Turkey spits on the important symbols of Denmark? I do not know.. the cross, or the flag, or an important sculpture…etc. May be you would just feel bad, or nothing; but, there would be angry people who want a reaction. And in some countries, there are people who are not reasonable. And show their reactions for their seriousness by violence. I know, it is unacceptable. But, they exist. Even their number is not the majority of the “muslim” world. They are here and they are there and they might be in your country, too. BUT, noone can make any generalisation for a murderer. Let me say what it corresponds to.. I like Billie Jean, but it’s like formulating an equality between all the Americans and Michael Jackson!.. or Germans with Hitler… etc.
Didn’t the publishers of the newspaper know that? And didn’t their network to other newspapers and to the governments realize that? I think, everyone was aware of what they were doing. And lots of the people know muslim fundamentalists.
“The US had nothing to do with it? It’s power….” ImDone, you’ve said that. It is a matter of power and just like every country -including mine- US is a part of this equation.
By saying US – most of the people mean the US government and the cabinet of George W. Bush… not the American people.
…..War makes money……. and war can be stimulated easily. and weapon traders need wars. politicians need war -to gain respect against their citizens. …this is as sick as the murderers in any country.
but this is the so-called strategy game.
i believe that a little research on middle east and islam would be enough to presume the reactions today. but, someone wanted to heat up, mix up the world.
there’s a tradition in the west and in the east… : generalisation. to put it under a “well-formed” name: orientalism. the king of all the prejudices! the sub-text is clear,, all the orient (“muslims” in this instant) are bad for some people in the west. And there’s a prejudice that all the west are evil for some people in the east.
If we do not do something – I do not know what – there might be a war just because of the combination of irrespectfulness and stupidity. Because they both can be “consumed” and can be “exploited”. Then, orientalism might be used as a tool, to legitimize the war. To collect more “soldiers”/supporters from each side. Then fight! Ridiculous! I guess, the people from each country should try to inform its citizens not to war and to the enemy outside… but not to make war! I know, the photos from “muslim” countries seem horrible now. And the news… killings, bombings…. but, we should not be a part. We should create something that works for peace.
There’s no difference between “You know the muslims, they always want……” or “You know the westerners, they always act like……” ….I want a way to broke this stupid chain reactions. I know there are more than one person.
“The beliefs of muslims doesn’t apply to all the world.” I agree, and voltaire has said a very great sentence “I might not respect what you’ve said. But, I respect your right to say it.” Some people in the east and some people in the west have no such agendas. They just want to vomit on every screen and every people’s lives. Sorry for that! But this is the reality. So, why do not people behave in such a reasonable way?..considering the world’s peace?
anyway,..meeting with people like you (plural “you” :) ) is a nice coincidence for me.
respect for every belief is crucial. non-violence is be the highest point at this respect issue for me. not agreement, but just respect. what’s the point of distracting people? one could choose so many topics in order to give a “lesson” on “freedom of choice”. Ok. The newspaper wanted to choose this topic, since because they are “free”. But why? There should be a reason for this specific topic. And how do the cartoons depict the prophet? Like a terrorist. How do we see “muslims” on our screens (including this screen)? Some of them are reactionary, violent, writing swear words… just like terrorists.. but, in real life, they are some of them are trying to express what they think, feel etc.
I guess, the “power” wanted to create a common sense among the western countries in order to occupate Iran. And We’ll see what is going to happen in the following days.
Some people started to blame U.S. Some of the people think that this is a gong, fire-starting action.
and…
It is not about our religious leaders actually. The majority do not act with a religious leader.
We live our lives, we try to earn some money, watch national, private t.v. channels(which has stupid programmes just like every country in the world)… and most of the people are filled with mass culture. Just like the remaining parts of the world…… they are muslims, who believe God. they(we) are not educated in order to kill someone. but nationalism is something that can easily be exploited and provoked against the “other”s.
We should be more than just to learn trust us, here. If anyone has any ideas, I might try to do something in my country. If we wrote these much things, it means we really care for each other’s ideas.
I wish there will be no war. If there happens a rubbish war, I wish I become the Superman.
and a last wish: I wish everyone can meet “real” art, arts from every culture. that is the cure for us, I think.
Love,
PS. I started to get tired, so sorry for my typos or deformed sentences.
Hepnizin amuna koyim, dinler yalan ibneler.
Do u think its funny?I think u cant see if u dont stoop this foolish believe me it means another world war and sure muslims win cuz Turkey(a muslim country)war with England,Greece,Italia,France,Russia and more in WW1 and they cant defeat Turks.Its hard to believe but its reality and if u cant defeat 1 muslim country how can u defeat all of the muslims?
arkadaÅŸ ne sikildi sokuldu ÅŸu ortamda be.