Muhammed Caricatures
UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE
UPDATE Feb 4, 2006: MUSLIM RESPONSE IS HERE
Here is a permanent home for the 12 Muhammed caricatures that were printed in the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten. If you don’t have a sense of humor then leave. They are just cartoons and nothing more. Comments will be enabled on here so please feel free to leave them. Keep it civil and please don’t storm my website with RPGs and machine guns. Oh, flag burning is unacceptable aswell. But feel free to boycot my site as that is a peaceful means of protest.
UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE
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August 28th, 2007 at 6:41 am
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August 27th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Howdy all,
After reading abdul’s posts another saying came to mind that I think has some bearing on the situation. Once again I can’t remember from where it originally came. I do remember it being quoted on Babalon 5.
“When you find yourself obbsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy”
Cheers
Simon Bond
August 27th, 2007 at 11:58 am
when the great war with islam comes along, we are going to dip our bullets in pig fat before shooting ragheads, then, when they are dead, we’ll bury them with pigs, hahahahahaha
August 27th, 2007 at 11:47 am
mohammed sucks allahs nipples when he’s not busy swallowing dog cum or licking pigs assholes or fucking little girls
August 27th, 2007 at 8:26 am
Quand les poules auront des dents!
Liberté, égalité, fraternité, ou la mort!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:40 am
vive l’islam et les mususlmans(es)
viva islam and muslim
August 27th, 2007 at 1:55 am
Mo, They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.lol
I repeat, I find no harm in a drawing when the intenton is
not harmfull in it’s self. That’s why you muslims became
violent over a few drawings because you have a closed
mentality. I also repeat that each religion has it’s
coustoms. Christians draw pictures. You muslims whine and
show each other your asses. Your coustoms also segragate
the men from the wemen but of course that’s up to you.
If God judjes by the way you think, how do you know that
you’re thinking straight.
By the way, when you see YOUR president Bush, ask him to
leave Iraq. lol
August 26th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
My web site just bites, I didn’t make fun of Jesus, he is my prophet to, I made fun of the way they make him look like so they fool people, what if Jesus didn’t look that good.
God doesn’t judge by the way you look, he judge by the way you think.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Mo,
There you are !!! It’s ok if you joke about other religions
but you will not tollerat anybody who jokes about yours.
After all how shure are you that islam is the right
religion. Did you heir God saying so ?
As far as I’m concerned the followers of each religion
can worship God the way they like, with or without pictures.
Muslims also have a funny way to worship, facing mecca and
farting at each other’s face. For me that also makes me
laugh. It also makes me laugh to heir a somebody whining at
the top of his voice from a loudspeaker.
Mo, Is your website contaminated with viruses? lol
August 26th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Stars,
I don’t think that Muslims should have re-acted the way they did, but you have to know one thing and put it in consideration. When you talk about freedom of speech you have to know who you are talking about.
Let me explain what I’m saying in simple way, when USA invaded Iraq, the Americans thought that Iraqi will be happy and free, and they weclome that, but because the USA gov is ignorant about the Iraqi or the ME people culture, they messed everything up.
So when you talk about freedom in ME, people are not ready for it yet, most of them are not educated so they don’t even realise that this word exist.
About Jesus comment, it just makes me laugh that Christians has to have picture to beleive in God, and he has to be so charming, so he connects to them, it’s very stupid that Jesus has to be white sometimes and he has to be balck for other people, and only God knows what other versions Jesus has, may be Chiness ( everything made in China these days)
I’m not making fun of Jesus, I’m making fun of the people that they are materlistic, they have to see pictures to beleive.
By the way you can check my web site I posted an amazing video for the Miracles of the Quran( if you dare to watch it. lol)
August 26th, 2007 at 11:55 am
People enjoyed the celebration on the last milestone so much that next milestone is eagerly waited and bottles are cooled for the 3000 mark.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:25 am
Gosh, this thread is still being discussed?
For anybody who thinks it’s NOT normal for people to tease/annoy each other, get out of your glass box and go into the streets.
Here is a South Park episode that might help you on this issue:
http://www.southparkzone.com/episode-vid-512.htm
August 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am
there’s a VERY simple answer to all this disagreement!!, all ragheads fuck off back to the middle east or other muzzy shitholes, and all westerners return home.
then we’ll seal all the borders, then you can have your “pure” islamic states, and your fucking sharia.
just stay the fuck out of the west!!!.
RAGHEADS ARE NOT FUCKING WANTED!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 2:52 am
mo,
I don’t think anybody in his right mind would worship a
picture, let alone funny ones like the ones you mention. lol
If you want to know why christians worship Jesus, ask a
competent person that is instructed in christian theology.
Shurly I’m not like you that knows the way God thinks and
acts. Christian rank Jesus in a much higher position than
a prophet. Ranking “your” mohammed his subordinate. lol.
I’ve seen Jesus drawn in many skin tones and if you consider
him to look like a movie star I can only say that he must
look handsome to you. lol
mohamed, it’s better to take a joke than use them to spread
terorism and violence. In your “expert” opinion, do you
think the all mercyfull Allah and your prophet mohammed
would have been please with your over reaction to a few
harmless pictures ?
There are jokes about everyting but only muslims take to
the streets and cause havock.
If you say that there is no difference between the word God
and Allah than it looks like your’e learning. Hope that others muslims begin to learn too.
As to “freedom fries” I’m not saying that the Americans have
been right in thair Iraqi war. They should have remaind out
of it and let Sadam exterminat all those that did’nt aqree
with him. (A few less muslims perhaps). If you read well
the text in the links you should know where the joke lies,
if you can manage, that is. lol
August 25th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
I don’t see anything funny about the cartoon, it has been made to anger Muslmis, that was the only prurose of it.
Every body knows that Muslims don’t put prophet Muhammed in pictures, so nobody turns and worship him like the Christians worship our prophet Jesus.
And the other question, how comes Jesus is white person, and he looks like movie star(anyway it’s off topic)
We don’t take jokes when it comes to God and prophet Muhammed and other prophets.
Answering your question in another post, there is no differnce between God and Allah, it’s translation for the word, the USA media like to use this term which only God knows why. The funny thing that people in USA when they talk to me about God, they said Allah.
Freedom fries wasn’t just a joke, it was kind of boycot the french product, and it was France didn’t agree on going to Iraq.
I wish USA had listened to France, we would be all better off.
August 25th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Mohamed
Freedom fries has been a bigger joke.
It’s tipical of “what’s in a name” beside else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/11/politics/main543555.shtml
August 25th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Stars and Stripes,
Freedom fries, wasn’t it a joke?
August 25th, 2007 at 1:35 am
@ mohamed #2782
You are saying anothe joke. Only its a very stupid one
indeed.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Alcari,
But our prophet Muhammed( the best human-being ever came to the earth ) is not a joke.
When you make a joke, you make a joke from the lesser, so if you gather all this human-being, the wouldn’t weight on the scale for Prophet Muhammed.
We are free to burn flags, and boycot who ever we wants, or did you forget the freedom fries :)
August 24th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
It is a damm joke, which is exactly why intelligent people aren’t doing anything.
While uneducated idiots with no sense of humor take to the streets and burns flag.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
THIS IS NOT A JOWKE OR SOMETHING TO HAVE A LAUGH ABOUT THIS IS OUR RELIGION THEY ARE PUTTING DOWN IN OUR VERY OWN EYES AND NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT…
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:25 pm
At the beginning i will say that I am Danish, then you know!
When I first saw the drawings in the Danish news paper, called Jyllands Posten, I laughed my ass of! Like I would have done if it had been a joke about our queen, prime minister or stupid people from westen Jutland (thats where I live).
We have a lot of muslims and immigrants from the Middle East, it is not a problem that they are here, many of then behave normal and live as muslim under Danish laws. But some think that they still live in thier native country, and can do whatever they want, like forced marriage, and putting down women because they only need to give bith mens children, try selling daughters to other men etc.
And we also have a gruop of people who thinks that all is free. 50% of all crimes in Denmark i done by immigrants(muslims). That is a high number, when there only few percents of immigrants in Denmark.
I hate these two kind of people! And only these two, it do not bother me that they are muslims and living under musæim regulation, as long as they respect and observe the Danish law.
There was a muslim man who traveled around the muslim world to inform them about the drawings. He has been living here for many years, and why should he then betray our country, the country that he has been living in. If he do not like this country, why the hell is he living here? We have a lot of other people who do not like Denmark, but why the hell are you living here. Live like us or find a country where you can do as you want (maybe your own!).
Black humor as we call it, is humor about normally seriously subjects. tjek wikipedia for more info!
Thats humor today! I can not describe it better, that is one of the ways that we make changes in our everyday life.. see it, read it, laugh of it, forget it, waiting for the next joke, it could be something about what I mention in the beginning, or Bush the Bastard, Mountain Monkeys from Sweden, or the Danish Idiot who ruined our last international match in soccer! could be anything..
See ya al’ in tha HELL - By fuckers :D
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:03 am
Why on earth do you muslims have to keep adding “Allah”
after the word God !!!!!
To me it sounds like sheer stupidity or there are 2 Gods.
God (1) for the “infidels” and the other (Allah) is for
muslims.
Another saying among muslims is Muhammed followed by “peace be upon him”. It sounds as if Muhammed needs peace after the
troubled life he led. LOL
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:36 am
Please repent ur mistakes & ask forgiveness from allah
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:34 am
Islam means complete way of life..it teaches how to live & what is the way to live.Muhammed(Peace be upon him) is god(Allah) Messenger.He taught us how to live this life & life after dooms day
In order to understand the message of Islam, it is first necessary to acquaint ourselves with the prophet of Islam. You cannot, as the popular saying goes, separate the message from the messenger. It is therefore only natural to wish to study the life of Muhammad (pbuh), his manners and his morals, and to see how Islam manifested itself in his person as a living example for all Muslims till the end of time.
Hind ibn Abi Hala (the son of Muhammad’s wife Kadijah) described Muhammad (pbuh) as follows:
“The Messenger of Allah was of consecutive sorrows, continuous thought, never finding rest, long in silence. He did not speak without cause. He spoke with his full mouth (was not arrogant), and spoke concisely. His speech was just, with neither excess nor deficiency. He was not pompous, nor denigrating. He exalted all blessings no matter how small and never belittled a single one. He would never praise his food nor criticize it. He was never angered by matters of this life nor that which was associated with it. However, if justice was transgressed nothing could stand up to his anger until justice was established. He never became angry for his own self nor sought retribution for himself. If he gestured, he did so with his whole palm. If he was amazed, he overturned it. If he spoke, he struck with his right palm the inside of his left thumb. If he became angry he turned away, and when he was happy he lowered his gaze. The majority of his laughter was [restricted to] smiling.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Background
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The advance of AIDS in the Middle East and North Africa has continued with latest estimates showing that 67 000 people became infected with HIV in 2005. Approximately 510 000 people are living with HIV in this region. An estimated 58 000 adults and children in 2005 died of AIDS-related conditions.
Although HIV surveillance remains weak in this region, more comprehensive information is available in some countries (including Algeria, Libya, Morocco, Somalia, and Sudan). Available evidence reveals trends of increasing HIV infections (especially in younger age groups) in such countries as Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Somalia.
The main mode of HIV transmission in this region is unprotected sexual contact, although injecting drug use is becoming an increasingly important factor (and is the predominant mode of infection in at least two countries, Iran and Libya).
Infections as a result of contaminated blood products, blood transfusions or a lack of infection control measures in health care settings are generally on the decline, but remain problems in some countries. The percentage of total reported AIDS cases attributed to contaminated blood decreased from 12% in 1993 to 0.4% in 2003.
Except for Sudan, national HIV prevalence levels are low in all countries of this region. However, most of the epidemics are concentrated geographically and among particular at-risk populations, including sex workers and their clients, drug injectors, and men who have sex with men.
Across the region, there is a clear need for more, better and in-depth information about the patterns of HIV transmission, especially the roles of sex work and of sex between men.
On both fronts, scant information has been gathered; this suggests that there is a likelihood that HIV is transmitted through other risky behaviours or in other contexts.
For example, in several countries of this region, a combination of inadequate surveillance data and strong sociocultural taboos against sex between men could be hiding sex between men as a factor in HIV transmission.
There’s NO fornication or homosexuality in islam, (so they tell us, lol) so all these figures must be one of those wicked zionist plots, or western propaganda, hehehehehe
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:32 pm
far more muslims have died of AIDS than westerners have died from trichonosis
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Jagannath, We’ll soon read that mohammed had allready
discovers trichinosis and thats why it is prohibited to
consume pig’s meat by muslims. lol
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:04 am
Sid beat me to it, but I wanted to add that you don’t really have to know everything about a topic (religion in this case) to make fun of it.
It is generally asumed people have a sense of humor, which prevents them from being insulted by jokes. When I make a joke about German, I’m sure Germans will laugh just as hard as I do when someone makes a joke abour Dutchmen. Same with religion, bring on the Atheist jokes and i’ll laugh.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:52 am
Hello za,
So have you gotten to know all the religions? What didn’t you like about Zoastrianism? How about Peyotism? What was so untrue about that belief system?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:52 am
Stars and Stripes, if you want to know about the non-religious reason for the ban you need to check about Trichinellosis, which is also called trichinosis.
It is a parasite commonly found in meat eating wild animals but also in domesticated pigs. It has quite nasty symptoms and it can lead to death on occasion. You can catch it by eating undercooked or raw meat. As pigs were often the carriers due their rather omnivorous appetites, the cause and effect rose out of that.
Is there any real reason against it today? Well, if you under cook your pork, of course but there are effective and safe medicines for treatment.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:16 am
if you don’t know about something, then don’t do anything sensitive to it. Muslims love their prophets and the only God (ALLAH). others may not know how deep is the love of muslims to Islam. Get to know all religions and you will know which one is the truest among all.
August 21st, 2007 at 12:15 pm
From How to become muslim:
“Do you not know that accepting Islam destroys all sins which come before it?†(Saheeh Muslim)
When one accepts Islam, they in essence repent from the ways and beliefs of their previous life. One need not be overburdened by sins committed before their acceptance. The person’s record is clean, and it is as if he was just born from his mother’s womb. One should try as much as possible to keep his records clean and strive to do as many good deeds as possible.
I heard that Jack The Ripper converted to islam just before
he died and went straight to heaven. LOL
August 20th, 2007 at 10:42 am
I find simply impertinently not everything muslime are thus and auserdem there are also NICE MUSLIMS FOR IGNORANCE to the INFO and they must also have a little bit respekt before our religion
August 20th, 2007 at 6:59 am
Mo, getting drunk is a sin under any religion beside it is moraly wrong. Drinking alcoholic drinks is no sin and that’s
one reason I do’nt agree with islam. In islam treats it’s
followers like “school children” I puts a rule on every aspect of life. I belive it also says somthing on how to
shit.
Most arabs that cause touble here, it’s because in their
country alcohol is prohibited and when they are away they
drink untill ther’re pissd out of their head.
BTW why is pork meat prohibited ?
August 19th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
Mo, Most of the time I will be teasing you but this is very
true that most arab muslims that come to my country are the
cause of most of the crimes, which include rape, murder and
fighting when drunk.
I will agree with you which I don’t beleive it’s correct what you claim but I will take it as a fact for the sake of argumen.
you said they fight when drunk, so what do you think Islam opinion about drinking, and what do you think about Muslims drinking alchohlic? Do you think they are truly Muslms or just named Muslims.
The other thing, you proved to me that Islam is right when prohibiting drinking, because drinking make people rape and do other stupid stuff.
I have no problem if you want to tease me, it’s ok for me, but you have to know something, being Muslim doesn’t mean you are perfect or that certain Muslim following Islam instruction.
You should judge Islam and not judging Muslims, because I don’t agree with alot of Muslims, but I know what Islam and I knew what Islam could do for human-being when he follows it in right way, and that’s why you find the convert Muslims get right more than the born-Muslims.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
Mo, Most of the time I will be teasing you but this is very
true that most arab muslims that come to my country are the
cause of most of the crimes, which include rape, murder and
fighting when drunk. I havent said that I am an atheist but
I would’nt dream of becoming muslim. I’m saying this because
you have boasted that americans and europeans are becoming
muslims.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:19 pm
Stars and Stripes
“All I can tell you is that 70% of hard criminality
is brought to my country by muslims. This include rape,
murder and drugs and on a lesser scale drunkness. You can
keep islam. I would rarther be an atheist.”
I just want to know how Muslims brought rap to your country?
Are you for real? People convert to Islam to get rid of the shitty life they live in, to better human-being.
Look at your self as Athiest, you are shame my friend.
August 19th, 2007 at 7:43 am
Mo, It’s all bullshit. I do’nt give a shit about Dick Cheney. What leaders are you writing about ?
If you’re calling “America freedom” a big lie then it’s you
that is live it because you went there to lick their ass holes. All I can tell you is that 70% of hard criminality
is brought to my country by muslims. This include rape,
murder and drugs and on a lesser scale drunkness. You can
keep islam. I would rarther be an atheist.
August 18th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Stars,
I think if you know how to read, I didn’t assume, I got confused between Jaganath and somebody else, and I offered my apology.
By the way did you watch Dick Cheney video in 1994, do you know now that your leaders fooling you, do you know now that you are living in big lie called American freedom, did you know now that they kill every right you had before.
Islam is the solution my friend, and Islam is offering the highest moral ground you can ever see.
Want facts, see how Islam spreading in USA, and see how Islam spreading in Europe, and the people who converts did for what the Islam offering, and it’s the truth.
Good luck Stars.
August 18th, 2007 at 4:19 am
“The only solution is in Islam” BULLSHIT !!!
“It’s the singer not the song.”
August 18th, 2007 at 4:14 am
Mo, are you still trying to convince us with your ridiculous
assumptions ? Who are the evel people you’re mentioning
here?.
No assumptions please just facts !!!
August 17th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
Jagannath,
Sorry, I think I got confused between you and Blasphemer(Somthing like that), I don’t really remember his nick name.
I agree with you abou the killing part, and agian sorry for the misunderstanding from my part, and I hope you accept my appology.
What you said in your comments sound really beautifull, but you know what the problem? The problem that some Muslims see that they think about Utopia, and makes life this way, which is not going to happen.
The same way your opinions and I’m sure you believe it will change the world, but it’s not, if you think that athiesm would solve the issue, it will not, when you become a power, some Athiest will kill and fo alot of bad things.
The only solution is in Islam, but we have to understand that Islam is not going to produce Utopia, and the reason because we are all human, we are going to do mistakes no matter what.
August 17th, 2007 at 4:34 am
That is quite an assumption, claiming that I would want to kill people. You have proof of it, any evidence that it is true.
Have you seen my face in some videos where I proclaim my coming deeds of mass murder? Am I gathering people who do not agree with me and shooting or decapitating them? Do I kill my family if I think they tarnish my honor? Can I be found in gatherings and telling people to kill and teaching them how to kill?
Or is it just what you think as it makes it easier for you to keep believing in your ideas?
Believe it or not but I have no desire to kill people. I personally find the whole idea as futile and not even suitable for a capital punishment. I do want to kill some concepts and ideas which have proven to be cancerous to humanity and if those concepts die off, I am not shedding any tears.
Please, do not talk so flippantly about killing people. Taking a life is truly Evil and trivializing it mocks those who have been forced to do so in defense of their own life or in defense of some one else. Killing is easy only if you lack compassion. mercy and love. Killing does not only kill the other people, it kills part of you also.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
You should add,
Evil is people who got drunk and doing stupid people and kill people because of their doings.
Evil is women get drugged and raped and it calls freedom.
Evil is suppressing people opinion, and suppress the way they want to dress.
Evil is taking 20% interest from people, and nobody is doing anything about it, and now it’s destroying the economy.
Evil is when the corruption and the money controls people lives, and as magna mentioned, go watch Loose change video and you will know how money can make disasters and they stick it to Muslims.
Evil is dropping Bombs and killing thousands people for oil.
The list goes on and on, so the concept of evil could change from person to person, it’s just you see the side you like and you ignore the rest.
The reason I said I see you as an evil and Boris too, because if you have the chance you would like to kill Muslims, which is the same evil doings like the extremist Muslims who wants to kill infidel.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
I am just evil, that is a disappointment. One has to strive harder then in promoting acceptance, free thought and freedom of opinions, science and equality of sexes.
But what is evil?
Evil is a broad concept which cannot be easily dissected but Fascism is form of evil? I would surmise many people agree with that claim;
What all that can include?
Religious practices will be limited to one, state sponsored religion. Other religions are either persecuted or allowed to exist under harsh, often changing conditions and all followers are not treated as citizens.
Forced rituals, which must be followed or one must face penalties ranging from imprisonment to physical punishments. Not filling the required ritualistic practices can be used as a cause for various penalties and questioning the loyalty of such persons.
Dress code separating sexes, status and importance. There cannot be variance in the style of dress which is also seen as disloyalty. Uniformity and segregation must be endorsed.
Education will be limited to only those subjects deemed safe, anything which might contradict the generally accepted must be prohibited. Science and biology are often limited greatly as those might prove concepts which go against the governmental policy and degree.
Free speech is non existent, media is controlled and mainly consists of propaganda and news idolizing religious figures, the accomplishes of the government. Individuals are ignored unless they are of sufficient status.
Men are allowed to school themselves where upon women are the homemakers who have no need for such. Men supply sustenance and women breed the next generations for the government.
Medical treatments can be limited by your status and the treatments available are only those which follow the policy set by the government. Any medical procedure which might prove the governments claims false is not allowed. Those often are available to the ruling elite.
Sports are either limited to set government endorsed ones or totally banned. Recreational sports are often banned, only those with some militaristic benefit are accepted, if any are accepted. Sport are often seen as non religious activities and thus not fit for believers.
Banking and economic programs do not exist, monetary transactions are carefully monitored by government. Any kind of self-improvement is seen as anti-governmental.
Industrial development is decided by the government, production is limited to only items deemed acceptable. Recreational items are not to be manufactured as those do not increase the influence of the government.
All forms of drama, theaters, cinema, arts and music are limited or totally banned. Imagination is not a trait which the government needs. All creative arts are waste of resources unless those are used to further the governmental power.
Food is limited as is drink. Only those approved by the government can be used and food and drink often contains rules and ritualistic practices to keep the consumption controlled. Alcohol is often banned as it can cause impromptu presentative art to happen or other acts not deemed acceptable.
Punishments are mostly physical and performed for all to see. Disproportional penalties are common and victims are often punished also. A separate police force is often employed in gathering information of various misdeeds and crimes to ensure that no one is able to avoid any regulation. People can be judged without a hearing based on a hearsay.
Families are also controlled and the number of children monitored. Government gives strict rules how one is to life and to behave and those rules dictate most natural acts from how to use toilet to treating of family members.
Government is not following agreement with other nations unless it gives some benefit. External contact is highly restricted and any information from outside is changed to suit the needs of the government.
That is one facet of evil, simplified version of it.
But evil can be different to different people. Some would find the above to be paradise and would be willing to see drastic actions being taken to make sure such government would rise into being.
Some are just more willing to sacrifice themselves to the task as that is what they were taught to believe in. I cannot say they are evil in any true sense as they know no options and are indoctrinated against even thinking of such concept as choice. One cannot be evil with knowing only one way.
Who taught that way, well that is totally different issue.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
the live version
a theory on 9/11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDx1GLqvBO8
August 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
One more thing..
this is not about religion and stuff.. more like about what happened on 9/11.
download and watch “loose change” if you have not seen it yet. it was made by an american and brought a LOT of controversy and discussion to what happened that day.
personally, I call it a -must see-.
watch it and decide for yourselves how this “religious” war started.
“loose change” is available on their website in many different languages (or they had subtitles.. not sure). Just google it and you’ll find their site on top of the list. then download and watch the movie.
definitely worth a watch!!
August 16th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
We are the ones who create evil. We ourselves. There is nothing that comes from the outside. Let me explain:
Let us imaging two people. One is A the other B. Although A and B think different.
A and B meet on the street one day.
Scenario 1: A hits B in the face. Now B is likely to hit back or do even worse. Then A will hit even harder and so it goes on until one of the two drops. Well, by attacking, A gave B the chance to say “He hit me first!!”
The overall fighting will grow (evil will gain power).
Scenario 2: A smiles at B in a friendly, loving way. Although B is so resistant and blinded by his beliefs, that he will attack A for smiling.. or maybe even looking at him. Well this is the time for self-defence. But fighting should ALWAYS be the last option. After the fight, certainly B will lose, because A will have the power to say “B hit me first”.
The overall fight will grow (evil will gain power).
Senario 3: A smiles at B in a friendly, loving way. B would be so surprised, and maybe even like it and think “Hey, A is not that bad a guy.. in fact I think I kinda like him.”
Now this is THE way to “win”.
The overall fight will ease (evil will lose power).
Conclusion: Fighting.. using force is evil. No matter if it is the good guy or bad guy who initiates it. And evil against evil will only create more evil. It is so obvious.
I often think “what kind of person would I have become if I was born on the other side of the planet or under different circumstances? Is there a chance that I would have become the very person that I used to dislike so much if I was born in his/her environment?” You bet.
Please let go of your resistance and accept people for who they are. Learn to co-exist in peace and love. We are the only species on this planet capable of understanding this, so let us use this potential.
Every person is born as a free entity. Free to decide what he/she wants. Although please bear in mind that freedom can only exist as long as one persons freedom does not hinder another persons freedom.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:20 am
Boris,
thanks for your opinion, you always enlight everbody with your moderate opinion.
Jag,
In my opinion you and Boris are evil, so should I apply what you said previously to both of you, here is the bad thing, how could define evil?
Evil would have some many defination based on who you are talking with, so people will kill each other because thy think the other are evil, that would be interesting lif.
Pleas think about what you write before enlight us by your wisdom.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
escuse me plese thank you. Is to ply with ones self sin in islam i am hindu
August 15th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
@Jagannath
i think mohammed was praising you for you opinion… only among muslims could mohammed ever be considered a moderate. a born-again xtian who takes the bible as the literal word of god (much like mohammed does with the quran) would be considered an extremist.
August 15th, 2007 at 8:11 am
Helo evri bady i am cald harundi. i like the peple in hier
becos very wise. all are big heds and lerned gays.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:16 am
So, according to you extremist muslims have the same view as I but moderates like you feel that evil must not be opposed but to submitted to.
Well, explains why the so called moderates never say anything about islamist actions and of terrorism. So in the views of the extremists and me, moderates are not good men.
Funny but that kind of makes perverse sense to me.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Jaganth,
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”
I think that the extrmist Muslims has the same opinion like you, wow.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
This is your stand
This is my stand
August 14th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Irishthunder, I respect your idea. If you do not believe in God, that is fine. If you believe in God, that is fine. If you believe in Buddha, that is fine. If you believe in Moses, that is fine. If you believe in the Jedi, The Matrix, or even that the universe as we know it is just the laboratory of a higher civilization, that is fine, also. If you believe in “there is nothing to believe in” (that is a belief also), that is just as fine. The point is, we can not achieve peace by resisting ideas or things.
If you believe that getting rid of things is the right thing to do, it shows that you are a resistant person.
Resistance causes stress (as seen above) and stress hurts. IT HURTS THE PERSON WHO CREATED IT IN FIRST PLACE (as the person to create this stress, that very person would be the first to experience this stress). This person then starts to blame others for the stress that person generated itself. That is the point where this person starts to hurt others.
You see.. peace is so easy to achieve.. It actually is as easy as DOING NOTHING.. and you will have peace. (By “doing nothing” I mean “not resisting” and “just accepting what is”). Sure, go to work, go out with friends, enjoy life to its fullest, because it is MARVELOUS! Just do NOT resist. There is NO point!
To sum up all that I have written:
You cannot have peace by the use of non-peace.. just like you cannot have happiness by the use of unhappiness.
It is not natural.
August 13th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Mango, there is no god. The only way to find total peace between people is to get rid of this stupid idea that some god above created everything and watches over every single individual person.
August 12th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Hi again.
In my previous comment I forgot to mention to what I refered by “all-there-is”. I used “all-there-is” as a common name for God or Allah in order to avoid separating the two.
maNgo
August 12th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Hi all.
Fighting, blaming, resisting each other really is senseless if you seek peace of mind and the wisdom of the all-that-is.
This only creates more hatred and suffering, thus hurts the all-there-is.
Please make peace with all-that-is, which includes yourself in first place, because it is YOU who will make peace.
maNgo
August 11th, 2007 at 2:08 am
no..no..no, don’t give sorry to me infidel. it’s fine if u don’t believe it.
i should make apologize. maybe unappropriate if i tell about that old story in this forum. but i just want tell to people around the world…if there are not any unjustice, hateness, and attacking action to islam, moslem will happy…together make peace, until we face our destiny..that’s all.
don’t blame ur self..fully respect,
mamat from indonesia
August 10th, 2007 at 11:48 am
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August 10th, 2007 at 9:43 am
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August 10th, 2007 at 6:24 am
sorry mamat, we’ve heard all this old horseshit before, many times, still, if it keeps you happy to believe such shit………….
August 9th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Hello my friends..all of the world from any religion.
I am from indonesia, southeast asia. a country with the biggest moslem in the world.
I don’t confused about jillan’s pic. because i believe the doomsday will come. islam said, before the doomsday…Isa prophet or cristian called him as jesus will come to earth. tell the truth about God (Allah), islam, and mohammed. because mohammed is the last prophet after Isa with the same religion from the God.
The signs that Isa will come is the crisis in middle-east. palestine conflict (jerusallem), the USA invasion to irac (baghdad), and now we will see..when the invasion goes to dammaskus in syiria? jerusallem, baghdad, and dammaskus are the holly cities for islam. we believe that if dammaskus is under attacked by jude or jewish who unlike with islam (from israel and USA), the truth will come.
But before Isa appear, a person who called “imam mahdi†will come and struggling the invasion of judes. in holly Qur’an show about “dajjal†or satan with one eye that try to instigate people to hate islam or instigate moslem to make sins. in this case i believe that USA/israel judes who unlike with islam is dajjal from their politics. see also the symbol of US dollar..you can find triangle with one eye.
“Imam Mahdi†is a holly leader who will lead moslem from around the world and bring islam in the glory age. but after that, many moslem foolish by the prosperity…and become thriller to Islam religion. then Isa will come to give awareness and tell the truth of God, Islam, and Mohammed. but after that just a little community that still keep in faith with islam religion (Holly Qur’an and the lesson from mohammed). then the doomsday will come to give the justice.
I don’t know “imam mahdi†is osama bin laden or ahmadinejad (Iran’s president), susilo bambang yudoyono (my president) or the other moslem around the world.
I keep my faith about that future..just wait and see a big occasion will happened.
I just an ordinary moslem..not a fundamentalism moslem that there are people usually said them as terrorist. but i really believe that Islam is a peace religion to all human kind. Islam not teach to hurt anybody…or hate another religion (in Holly Qur’an is perfectly clear). just keep in my mind..â€truth will come from the skyâ€.
Best regard everyone,
mamat from indonesia…a beautiful paradise
August 5th, 2007 at 11:04 am
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August 5th, 2007 at 9:17 am
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August 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 am
we are all bloody bastards deep inside.
i personally think those who point out mistakes of others often &less on themselves are the worst.
&i don’t see a point in these caricatures either, give me a good one &i might even put it on my desktop.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:01 am
“I am challenging you all that you must read The Holy Quran you will find the peace of mind. Just read it once”
I HAVE read it, more than once, and I still think it’s a load of shit.
FUCK THE KORAN!!!!!!!!!!!
July 31st, 2007 at 10:56 am
Gul Khan,
PS I apologize for mistyping your name in my last post.
July 31st, 2007 at 10:54 am
Gur Khan,
You said in post 2728 “Do you know science has come from Quran and the early scientists were all the Muslims, for detail please visit the link “.
The list is interesting, and I agree with you that it is the case that many people who would have categorized themselves as Muslims have made contributions to science (in fact, I have worked in science with a few such people), but your statement is actually demonstrably false, and your linked list is fundamentally flawed, for the following reasons:
There is no such thing as a “Muslim scientist”, nor a “Christian scientist, nor a scientist of any other religion. Science and religion are simply incompatible opposites. In science, the scientific method demands that everything can be challenged; there is no belief; all hypotheses are subject to doubt. There can be well-supported theories, but there is always the possibility that a given theory may be pushed aside or refined based on new evidence or new insights. Real adherence to a religion demands absolute belief (and typically, for most popular religions, dogmatic belief in an ancient book of questionable origin and veracity, in my opinion). Belief and doubt are definitive opposites. Religion such as Islam pre-ordains and requires belief in explanations of phenomena, and does not permit itself to be subject to revision. This is fundamentally incompatible with how science works.
Therefore, the people that are in the wikipedia list that you cite probably are or were Muslims, but they were not acting as Muslims (nor as adherents of any other religion) when they did their science.
July 31st, 2007 at 8:42 am
@Gul Khan
Yes we know about “muslim scientists”. They can make bombs even out of “horse manure” All towards peace according to
the quran. LOL.
July 31st, 2007 at 3:41 am
Hello all!
I am worried about all you said against Islam. You know Islam is the only religion which gives lesson of peace. I am challenging you all that you must read The Holy Quran you will find the peace of mind. Just read it once. Do you know science has come from Quran and the early scientists were all the Muslims, for detail please visit the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists
Religion is somebody’s person matter that he/she believes it or not. No one is responsible of any one’s matters bcz Allah(God) blessed brains to all humans. They can find the right or wrong way themselves. At last I am again saying that the holy persons of any religion is respectable to all. Either he/she is a muslim or non-muslim and critisism on someone’s religion is the worst one.
May Alla(God) grant you to understand things.
Feel free to mail me or ask me anything about Islam.
Ypur brother……..
Regards.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
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July 29th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
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July 24th, 2007 at 7:41 am
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July 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 am
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July 20th, 2007 at 1:30 am
Mo,
“How could you know my leaders? Did I name any one of them?!”
I don’t know who your leaders are. I never said I did.
You never named any. I never said you did.
All I’m saying is there has never been anyting as an
official statment by your spiritual leaders saying that they
condemn terorisim and disasociate islam as a religion from
it.
“your media doesn’t show moderate people.”
Mo, Which is my media ??
Is’nt Google my media ? Is’nt CNN my media. Is’nt Euronews
my media? Is’nt El-Gezira my media? As a few examples.
In my opinion, If you resign from your religious fanatism
you will probably understand better what I and a few others
mean. However that’s up to you. It’s your privilage for
living in a free country.
July 20th, 2007 at 12:14 am
How could you know my leaders? Did I name any one of them?! Just to let you know, if there is a religious guy to be my leader, his name is Amr Khaled. You can look him up on Google and check his web-site. Look at what is he talking about, and see how your media doesn’t show moderate people. They just show stupid people and they portray them as the leading voice of Islam.
BTW, the web site has English version.
July 19th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Mo, you’re the one that think you know every thing about
religion and it shows from your replies. I’m not assuming.
As regards being among the billions of islam followres. What do I care ! If you’re happy enjoy it.
I never critisized you for your religious beliefs.
I critisized your spiritual leaders that allow your religion
to be used for terorism.
What has caused all the fuss about these few cartoons ?
It was’nt that islam and mohammed have been “labled” as
terorists. It was because the image of mohammed has been
drawn. If that’s islam I don’t envy you at all.
Finally, I’m here just to “kill time” and thank you for
entertaing. I never take things too seriously. Life is too
short. However I honestly belive that your spiritual leaders
are allowing your religion to be used for terror.
July 19th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Leave theology for professional.
So I understand that you are one of these pro. Any way from you answer to other people who comments here, I can see your personilty clear now.
I don’t want to know what do you believe in, I’m just proud that I can stand between a billion people who could Islam and say I’m Muslim.
July 19th, 2007 at 2:22 am
Mo, one more thing. Leave theology for “professionals”.
In my humble opinion you’re making a mess of the subject.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:37 am
Mo,
Don’t feel sorry for anyting, if you find me pathetic. You
can call me sarcastic too if you prefair, I don’t mind.
That’s your privilege. I respect your opinion. I find you
to be trying to hide your emotions someting you can’t
resist.
So now tell me, how do christians smell ? Some say muslims
stink. I’m not entirly of that opinion.
As to what religion I follow, well keep guessing.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:07 am
Mr star, one more thing, what do you believe in, you didn’t say yet, are you christian or Athiest, you didn’t introduce your self yet. I would like to know, so I know who I’m talking to.
I have feeling you are chtristian, I don’t know why, but I can smell it from a mile.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:01 am
Stars, you are pathetic, you really need help so bad, everytime I see your comments, I try hard to get over it, but seriously, I can’t, even your jokes make me sick.
I don’t know why I feel sorry telling you these words, I just can’t keep it, pleas give me the credit tha I kept for more than one week, I’m not strong enough to keep it.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:43 am
alcari,
“the asumption you’re an american is one the WHOLE world
would make”.
Well, that is ANOTHER false assumption, since you are
assumeing the whole world thinks like you !!!
By saying that Germany had to pay it back you are at least
admiting that Germany has also received marshial aid.
What was paid back I don’t know, but remember that Germany
was on the loosing side and divided in east and west.
The west recoverd much faster then the communist east.
I will not go into the east/west story and how Germany has
been divided that is compleatly bejond the objective of this
thread. All I can say that Germany nerver paid a “brass farthing” for the damages caused to other countries it
invaded and bombed, including my country.
IF germany paid back I don’t see any harm in that since
Germany recoverd much better than most countries on the so
calld winning sise.
To “do what works” does’nt remove the “lable” of terorisim.
That is you opinion and you are entitled to it. So now you
should start a petition to remove the word war from all
dictionaries and replace it by the word terorisim if it is
found to work better.
No to war. Yes to terorism because it works !! I respect
your opinion but I don’t share it.
As for religion, again you have the liberty to belive or
disbelive what you like. As I said at the begining, in my
reply to Mo. We’ll see what happens when we’re “six feet
under” If you’re all that sure there is no God you really
have reason to be proud of being an atheist. I’m not !!
I try not to jump to conclusions. lol
BTW, what’s your opinion about the Mohammed cartoons ?
We seem to be missing the true objective of this thread.
July 18th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Stars,
“”Keeping out of your country who you don’t like is one thing, exporing terorisim is another thing.”"
I don’t condone killing civilians, as i’ve said before, I merely point out that people do what works. Their view is that the entire population is evil and a scourge to the world. This idea is completely based on religion. Besides, the same could be said for the USA, keeping muslim terrorists out is fine, but making war on another country is not.
Also, the asumption you’re an american is one the who world would make, based on you name. Also, I’ve never made it a secret that i’m atheist (proud of it)and my opinion about terrorism is pretty clear from my above statements.
One last point on marshal aid, the german had to pay it back, france and the rest of europe didn’t.
As for what Infidel said,
I find it pretty hard to get a good grip on what the people really think about musharraf, as the media is esentially all under his control. Reading up on forums and other personal sources is a little difficult, seeing how I don’t speak Urdu (?)
Most sources i do understand can’t seem to agree with one another. However, I can reason that, If anyone would pull all the crap he did, in my country, I wouldn’t be thanking him for it.
July 18th, 2007 at 8:15 am
infidel,
You’ll soon read that what you say also happend in WW2. LOL
July 18th, 2007 at 8:00 am
“but the fact that most Pakistany disgust Mushraf, and they didn’t elect him, and I’m sure you know the story.”
Sorry to say you’re twisting things again mo, maybe he’s unelected, but the MAJORITY of pakis support him!!
He was getting a lot of criticism from ordinary people for NOT clamping down on the nutjobs in the red mosque!!
What sort of “holy men” allow the house of god to be used for storing huge quantities of guns and ammunition????
What sort of holy men allow their students to KIDNAP people off the streets and hold them prisoner???
Most pakis are horrified at the thought of sharia law, but don’t take MY word for it, just look at the various paki forums and blogs
July 18th, 2007 at 6:34 am
alcari,
By assuming you’re jumping to conclusions. You sound a to be
an atheist and an advocat for teroisim but I havent said
you’re eiter of these.
No you’re not correct about Marshal Aid. Countries that have
been on the “winning” side got none of it while Germany and
Japan did.
Keeping out of your country who you do’nt like is one thing
exporing terorisim is another thing.
When a sunni blows up a shiite house that is politics mixed
with religion. No religion invokes murder. It’s the
interpretation by fanatic religious leaders that instigate
hate and terorism with the illusion of finding vergins
waithg on the “other side”
alcari, I have my feelings about terorism and you have yours
I sincierly hope that you will never see what I have seen
after a terorist act.
July 18th, 2007 at 5:48 am
“”All in the name of God and Islam, with an “assurence†of a place in heaven. The Japanese suicide bombers had the same “illusionâ€.”"
Yes, so do the christians in Ireland and the whatevers in eastern Afrika, which is exactly why religion is a Bad Thing.
“”Don’t try to justify today’s terorism with what happend in WW2.”"
I’m not, I was merely pointing that the line between War and Terror depends compeltely on whose side you’re on.
“”Today’s terorism by islamic terorists is so indiscriminate that they are targeting every one including there own people.”"
That’s where you’re wrong. When a sunni blows up a shiite house, we see Iraqi killing Iraqi, but they don’t. When a catholic kills and Irish protestant, don’t see it as killing a countryman, but a different religion, which is another reason religion is a Bad Thing.
By (That’s you) I meant that the Americans are the occupational forces I mentioned. I asume you’re american from your name.
Last sidenote, the victor in WW2 did not pay for the damage, in fact, the aid (marshal plan) went from the US to the other allied nations.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:15 am
So now there are those that justify terorisim with the
escuse that it allready hppend in WW2. Yes the japasnese
acrried the attack on Purl Harbour. The Germans used the
V1 and V2 to bomb. This is only to mention 2 bloody episodes
in WW2. Can you compare today’s terotisim: The endless hijackings of ciivilian arcrafts. The case of the Achille Lauro back in 1985. The case of the Egept Air with the
murdering of the passengers one by one and to top up the
massacre, the incompitance of the Egiptian “storm troopers”
that killed most of the rest. Just to mention a few.
Don’t try to justify today’s terorism with what happend in
WW2, because there is a great difference. Today’s terorism
by islamic terorists is so indiscriminate that they are
targeting every one including there own people. All in the
name of God and Islam, with an “assurence” of a place in
heaven. The Japanese suicide bombers had the same
“illusion”.
The true objective of this thread is an example of islamic
terorism. Was there a justified reason for a few cartoons to
run havoc in the streets with people being killed ? Is’nt
the “fatua” on Salman Rushdie a form of terorism ?
I’m sure that somebody will do some comparisons, as the
mentioning of WW2. Hey, in WW2 the victor paid (in part) for
the damages. Will today’s terorist do the same. So far Libja
has, but we have to wait and see what comes out of the appeal.
Forgot to mention Lockerbie !!
Mo, it’s nice to know that you are against terorism. The
next thing is to participate in some anti terorist
manifestation (if it ever happens) like the ones againt the
Gulf war in the USA to mention an example. I have my doubts
if things like that ever happen is a muslim country.
July 17th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Stars,
I never encourged killing civilans, you are the one who keep accusing me that I’m terrorist, just for the fact that I crticized Mr Bush and questioned his intention and his doings.
July 17th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Was the Blitz terrorism? How about the bombing of Dresden? Hiroshima and Nagasaki? And all of that is just WWII.
Civilian casualty is a sad part of every war. Deliberate attacks on civilian population are carried out to decrease morale. They are done by both sides of the conflict.
July 17th, 2007 at 6:28 am
NB.
“I disaprove of blowing up civilians, but I agree with the fact that, in Iraq at afganistan at least, the people have a right to defend their country against the foreign occupational forces (That’s you) any way they see fit.”
I have never mentioned Iraq or Afganistan. They definitly
have the right to keep whoever they don’t like out but I
don’t agree on murdering civilians intentionaly. That’s
terorisim !!
What do you mean when you say (That’s you) ??
July 17th, 2007 at 6:08 am
alcari, for me it makes no difference how in the Afgans and
Iranian defend their country. They could also murder each other on religios issues if the so wish, as in Iraq
You don’t need to remind me about WW2 I wasn’t born then
but I can judge who was fighting for freedom (the French
resistance). I never heard that the french hijacked arcrafts
and crashed them in places populated by civilians, or
suicide bombing in undergrounds.
If you prefair to put both tragedies (war and terorism) on
the same level well that’s up to you. I would’nt put terorisim between quotes, but then it’s a matter of opinion
not definition.
July 17th, 2007 at 5:27 am
Well duh, you’re asking for him to.
And, yes, that is a sad and failed against intimidation. *godwin’s law coming up* I probably need to remind you that the “terrorists” are using the exact same methods as french and russian resistance fighters used in WW2. The difference is that they were on the winning side, so they’re called “the resistance” instead of terrorists.
I disaprove of blowing up civilians, but I agree with the fact that, in Iraq at afganistan at least, the people have a right to defend their country against the foreign occupational forces (That’s you) any way they see fit.
Add to that the allready present religious violence between two native groups, and you get the current mess.
July 17th, 2007 at 1:21 am
Mo is short for Mohamed. The guy in Paki wanted an Islamic
state, like Iran I guess. Mixing state affares and religion
is not on. That is one reason for islasmic terorism.
Mo each time you are confronted with terorism you keep
mentioning the USA and GB. I’m sure you agree that there is
much more democracy in the West including these countries
than in all the Eastern countries.
I repeat that war is war and terorism is terorism. In war
you have a known enemy so you at least you know who you’re
fighting. In terorism you have an indiscriminating faceless
enemy. I’m almost sure that you’ll mention AGAIN the USA
and GB in your reply. lol
This is no intimidation. If you want my advice stop trying
to justify terorism. Remember that both the USA and GB are
on maximum alert against it.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Man, it doesn’t matter how many died, I don’t know the guy, it’s possible he is liar, and I will agree that he is liar, but the fact that most Pakistany disgust Mushraf, and they didn’t elect him, and I’m sure you know the story.
It just makes you wonder, is USA there to spread democracy, and do you think supportinf dectator is a good message in the world, that Americans work hard to spread democracy.
The other thing what’s up with MO nick name :), actualy some people called me that in real life.
July 16th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
“I really don’t know the guy to give an opinon about him, I know that he died, but what was he doing, I had no idea.”
It’s quite simple really mo, 73 men died in the mosque, but saeed claimed that “hundreds of women and children died”, and thousands of people in lahore BELIEVED him.
The whole world can see that saeed is a FUCKING LIAR!!, like so many of islamic clerics
July 15th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Alcari,
Sorry for mentioning this facts, I really shouldn’t have said in 1st place, the purpose of it was to show that every nation and every country has something to be ashamed of.
I came back though and I oppolgized, I really hate this kind of dicussion, it’s not useful and doesn’t server any interest.
I’m really sorry if I offend any of you.
July 15th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
“”Mo, war is war and terorism is terorism. “”
No it’s not. it depends who’s side you’re on. Nobody ever calls themselves a terrorist, just the other guy.
Also, stars, please drop the intimidation act, it’s sad, not getting you anywhere and so very descriptive of how the world sees the US.
now, mohamed
“”Fact#2, you claim that we are terrorist, but we havn’t been cowboys, steal money, at least the terrorists have a case to fight for, not stealing money.”"
#2.1 Cowboy keep cattle on their ground, is that illegal?
#2.2 Which country has the US robbed then?
#2.3 Everyone has a case to fight for, people just don’t agree with it.
“” Fact#3 70 years ago, you were slaving the hell out of the black American.”"
And it was socially completely accepted. 2000 years ago, your rolemodel prophet was having sex with a child, which you say is fine. Don’t apply double standards.
“”Fact#4 who the first used the nuclear weapon in a war killing 300000 people with no mercy”"
200.000 actaully, but that’s still horrible. Though the USA really didn’t start that war (unlike all the other ones) Also, they issued a very fair ultimatum to the japanese, along the lines of “Surrender, or we blow up a city” No surrender, so they did. Then a second ultimatum came, “Surrender or we do it again” Well, by that point, i’d say it was their own fault.
Ok, can we start the actual discussion now?
July 15th, 2007 at 3:26 am
I hate to be mean to anybody, so I’m sorry if I was mean to you, I’m sorry if I’m not going to answer you response.
I appolgize for the seconde time, you can see the world the way you like, it’s your life and you can do what ever you want.
I could fire back to you, but it’s not worth it.
July 15th, 2007 at 3:13 am
Mo, You are still living in the remote past and trying to
justify the horror your mates are doing.
You say:
“at least the terrorists have a case to fight for, not
stealing money.”
I hope that you are not in the USA planning terorism.
If you read the history books, you’ll know who was the
villan with the attack on Purl Harbour.
Mo, war is war and terorism is terorism. I repeat that you
are a hypocrite. You hate the US government but take it’s
mony.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:35 am
Are you for real, you make think that you live in trail in the middle of no where man.
Fact#1, this land is not for American, read history you will know how did you get this land, and not just history, you can see why you gov paying money for American Indian as compensation for what they did to them.
Fact#2, you claim that we are terrorist, but we havn’t been cowboys, steal money, at least the terrorists have a case to fight for, not stealing money.
Fact#3 70 years ago, you were slaving the hell out of the black American.
Fact#4 who the first used the nuclear weapon in a war killing 300000 people with no mercy
I really hate to mention these facts, but stupid people like you still living in the slavery age make me say those facts.
I could be stupid like you, but I understand that people could be better, could change, and yet you still living as a stupid.
July 15th, 2007 at 12:30 am
Mo, you’re right American people are not smart at all to
allow people like you and other terorists to live in the USA
So now you discover that no country is perfect. So now I ask
another question: Which in your expert political opinion is
the best country ??
You must be suffering from a mental confusion to think that
in the USA we fall on our knees in front of any body. That
happens in your country and other arab countries where you
have no choice of a democraticaly elected government.
Mo, you hate the administration but you like the “colour” of
it’s money. So again I think you’re a hypocrite
July 14th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
Yo, check this out guys - this is what people do in the name of religion - all religions suck
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm
July 14th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
I meant fear from Usama Bin Laden and other terroirst, can’t you see when you precious president get in trouble, the Qaida comes out with new tape sacring Americans, and then Americans like you kneel down to Mr president and thank him for keep them alive.
You are right there is no perfect country, I’m just disappointed from American people, I thought when I was in Egypt that majority of Americans are really smart, but I found the opposite, I found people thinks that UN is a country and it’s number one enemy, I also found media isolate their country from what’s going on around the world, media cares about Paris Hilton more than people dying around the world.
I don’t hate USA, neither do alot of people in ME, most people in ME likes Ameircan, not USA gov, you should go somewhere in Egypt, Morroco, Tunisia, Emirates and other and see how people will receive you.
I know you like your country, but it seems to me that it takes over your objectivity.
Please keep the conversation civilzed, I will get your point without this childish words you are using.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:51 am
Mo, BTW, mention one country where you think is a perfect
place. Waiting for a a simple reply. Just the name of the
country !!
July 14th, 2007 at 11:43 am
Mo, you speak shit because you still think you’re in your
country.
How can you intimidate and put fear in people when there is
a multi party election. You are still with the mentality of
dictatorship as it is in your country.
If you have discoverd that Mr. president does “whatever he
likes”, go to Iran I’m sure you’ll be happy there.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:39 am
Infidel,
I really don’t know the guy to give an opinon about him, I know that he died, but what was he doing, I had no idea.
All I know that Mushraf the president now, was the defense minister, and he use the army to get rid of the previous president, and that how he become a president, and he is supported by USA, so it makes doubt the intention of USA, and the lies they talk about spreading democracy, like in Egypt they support Hussni Mubark too, and he is freaking corrupt and he fakes the election every time, he wins by %98, and nobody goes to the election, because it’s BS, and USA gov knows that, yet they support him.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:31 am
Mr star ans stripes,
The Gov is elected from people under fear and intimdation, the same ways every weher in the world.
I came to USA thinking that public has voice listened to, but I found out, that Mr president does what ever he wants, and he doesn’e even care about people.
I have no issue with American people, they are like any other people, they want to live peacefully without threat, but they sacrafy more important things, their freedom.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:24 am
I notice mohamed, that you COULD NOT deny that mullah saeed is a liar and shitstirrer!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 5:23 am
julie zijn egt dom hallo hun zijn ook mens zijn jullie gestoort zijn jullie niet bang van allah maar gelukig is sandemoestijn dood die is zo dom dat die kindren dood maken en de mensen van de nek gesneden hallo dat zijn een mens hub moeten ook leefen gewn aan allah weer zijn en moslim oke wat jullie doen is egt niet goed egt waar
July 14th, 2007 at 2:51 am
Mo, You are a double face hypocrite. Tgovernment has been
elected by the people and it the government that has
granted you permition to live in a civilized country. If you
don’t agree with the government as you did not with your
corrupt and fake egiptian government, you should commit
suicide (without killig others) perhaps you will be next to
your prophet mohammed.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:00 am
Why? Because I say the truth, does it hurt?
I don’t hate USA people, I hate USA gov as well as Egypt Gov, both are corrupt, mybe Egyptian Gov looking for $3 million to get out of corruption, whilt USA gov always look for billions and some dead civlians.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:49 am
Mo, Get your fucken ass out of the USA and go back to your
shithole country. It’s the least you can do with all your
hate against the USA.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Thank you for knowing my problem,.
I just have one question how do you think that I got brain washed, I’m sure when you think of me, you think I was in madarast like Pakistan, and they force me to memorize Quran, and other image they show you in the media.
Any way I had all the freedom to memorize Quran or not, and I had the freedom to pray or not, I started to pray when I was 24, and nobody even forced me to.
I will tell what the matter with Pakistan Mr knowledgeable, Pakistan has unelected president supported by USA ans allies, and what Pakistan gov doing, they suppress people from saying their opinion like all the other governments are supported in ME by USA, so did you know what is the issue.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:32 am
Your problem mohamed, is that you don’t even REALISE you’ve been brainwashed!!
Young muslims are force fed islamic crap from the day they are born, they simply don’t know any other way.
Even if they DO question islam, they are regarded as apostates and killed!!
THERE ARE NO FREE THINKERS IN ISLAM
Let me give you a good example of islamic propaganda…..
The pakistan military say 73 bodies have been recovered from that mosque siege, (all male)
Now read a quote from a fundamentalist asshole in lahore,
“This was genocide, hundreds of innocent women and children died,” cleric Mohammad Saeed, the head of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa organisation, said”.
It’s perfectly obvious that saeed is nothing but a SHITSTIRRER, but thousands of ignorant ragheads are going to BELIEVE him.
So don’t lecture us on TRUTH mo.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:48 am
allah(c.c)hepinizin cezasını werir inşallah şu anda ağlıyorum ;-(
July 13th, 2007 at 9:26 am
Arkadaslar, allahınızı peygamberinizi sikeyim, birakin boyle bos bos islerle ugrasmayi… Hay muhammed kaddar yarrak yagsin kafaniza… Hepiniz yobaz orospu cocuklarisiniz daha anlayamamissiniz… Hay allahına soktugumunun veletleri… Hay siksever yarrak emici muhammed yandaslari sizi…
July 12th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
All I can say to you good luck, there will be one day that you will regret what you say, and you will hope if you would listen to me.
God guides you to the truth, you can say what ever words you mom feeds you, I’m not going be as low as you.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
allah’ini kitabini siktigimin
July 12th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
hey mohamed, I haven’t heard any prayers from you yet, you’d better move your ass and get on your knees and pray, (don’t forget to face west).
otherwise, i’ll ram red hot pokers up your ass for all eternity, i will allow you however, 72 virgin goats to fuck!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:39 am
use a civilised language you ignorant fuckers
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 am
post in a civilised language you fucking savages
July 11th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
ve Tekrar SEYTANIN LANETİ ÜZERİNİZE OLSUN !…
July 11th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
SEYTANIN LANETÄ° ÃœZERÄ°NÄ°ZE OLSUN !…
July 8th, 2007 at 11:34 am
sizler kendi içinizdeki şeytanı,nefsinizi,cinleri çizmişsiniz.sizler hristiyan bile olamazsınız,ne mutlu hz. muhammet e inananlara,ne mutlu ondan şüphesi olmayanlara.ne yazık şeytana,nefsine,cinlere inanan maymun iştahlılara
July 8th, 2007 at 9:22 am
BOŞUNA UĞRAŞMAYIN MÜSLÜMANLIĞI YOK EDEMEZSİNİZ!!! İSLAM GÜNEŞ GİBİDİR ÜFLEYEREK SÖNMEZ VE GÜNDÜZ GİBİDİR GÖZÜNÜZÜ KAPATSANIZDA SADECE KARANLIK SİZEDİR…
İSTEDİĞİNİZİ YAZIN ÇİZİN BURADA OLMASA BİLE ELBET CEHENNEMDE Kİ YAKICI ATEŞLERDE KALMLERNİZLE BİRLİKTE CAYIR CAYIR YANACAKSINIZ SEYTANIN LANETİ ÜZERİNİZE OLSUN
July 8th, 2007 at 8:52 am
selamun aleyküm kardeslerim burada böle önemli bi konu varken sizler birbirinzle kavga edip küfür yagdırıyosunuz gercektende ben burda gördügüm bi kac yazıdan dolayı kendm utandım birlik olmamız gereken zamanda birbirimizi yiyoruz :( ne kötü…
ası konuya gelince yüce rabbimize daima dua edelim ki bu iÄŸrençliÄŸi yapan insanlar hak ettiklerini hem burada hem de öbür dünyada bulsunlar eyy yeri ğöğü yaratn sonsuz rahmetine sıgındıgım rabbimÅŸu ezanların yüzü gözü hürmetine öyle bir ders verki bir daha degil karikatür çizmek ellerini kaleme dokunduramasınlar yarabbim …
July 7th, 2007 at 1:43 am
Dick head,
I really don’t know what to tell you, it seems you have prejugment about Muslims, and to be honest with you I’m not here for winning, For my self I’m winner if God choose me to be winner, to be in his heaven, You argument is not going to make me winner.
I don’t know why everybody think that we are in boxing match, and we have to bunch each other.
USA didn’t shelter me, it would be better if they shelter the poor people they have here, I work here and I pay taxes and I’m productive person as long as God keeps me healthy, I’m not drunken high head person begging for money, and thank God every body knows me here respect me and loves me and I have the same feeling for them.
I tried to change the way you think about Muslims, but you are blind, I have no idea where is it coming from, but it’s ok as long as it makes you sleep happy at night.
It’s God land, but I never claimed that I should occupy USA land and then be a governer and say it’s God land, you can consider me as guest here, and if the Israeli want to live as guests on the Palestine lands they welocme, not as a terrorist.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:59 am
I think there all halarious, and islam is total bollocks, but the cartoons are good
July 6th, 2007 at 3:13 am
@Mohamed
For you information I have never ever spent any part of my
life in any part of Britan extpt on holiday. I have been
born and live in a democratic country where thre is no
religius fanatism and we don’t murder people in the name of
God.
You are the one who are acting like an extremist muslim.
That’s what you do when you loose hope of winnig. Take it
against the west and commit suiside !! I have never evaded
any of your arguments. You don’t have an argument to start with, it’s just repetitions.
You say I’m angry and cornered ? I am happily living in MY
free country why shuld I be angry ? You have to change your
way of thinking then perhaps you will realise who is crying
like a baby and being evasive.
You have a “clear” opinion about every government, yet you
chose a country where you do not have a good opinion about
it’s government. It is it’s government that has given you
shelter and granted you permition to live there !!
You say it’s God’s land. Go and say this to the Palestinians
With your argument the Jews are right to say that palestine
belongs to them because God gave it to them.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Infedil,
I didn’t say the west are satanic, give me one sentence where I said the West are satanic, that’s your calim.
As I said before, I have American friends and they are really good freinds to me, one of them an athiest, and they know my clear opinion about USA administration, and they respect it.
Second, God says in Quran “we created you diffrent nations to know each other”, the other thing, that’s not your land, neither Egypt my land, it’s God’s land, you didn’t form or create it, you just here on it, and God knows how you have it( I don’t want to go through that).
That’s the stereotype of what I see here, you argue with somebody here and he starts to cry and attack me personnely. If you can’t take a debate just shut your mouth.
Mr Dick Head where obviously raised in England, where he should know how to debate freely and respect other people opinions, starts to cry and act like babies, and actually he acted like Extremest Muslims, that’s what they do when you corner them, they start to get angry and to be evasive.
Be a man and take critizism.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
yes mohamed, tell us why such a good muslim like yourself would CHOOSE to live in the “satanic” west????
July 5th, 2007 at 2:12 am
@Mohamed,
I hate being personal but I have an inclination to agree
with alcari #2656. You must be just plain stupid or have
compleatly brainwashed.
Democracy is to govern by the people’s concent. Every nation
gets the governmet it deserves. In Egypt, as you well say,
you have no democracy just fake elections.
Regarding the case of british soldiers, it has been spred
alover the world by the british themselves. Has the british
government suppressd the news an any way ????
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1573896,00.html
A car filld with bombs ? Mohamed your source or you are lieing.
You have moved to the west because you think that the west
is a better place to live. However with your way of thinking
I do’t think that there is a place in this world sutable
for you.
I assure you that I am enjoying my feedom and have no reason
to leave my country lawfully or unlawfully like you and all
the illigal (mostly islamic) immigrants are doing.
How come you chose the USA. With you way of thinking you
should have moved to Iran. You would have fitted nicely
there. lol
July 4th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
What democracy are you talking about?, are you just blind, I see the same ways in Egypt exactly happens here, you can complain and whin, but nobody listens.
Democracy include secret prisons, did you hear about the Brits soldiers who wore Iraqi cloth in Iraq and has a car filled with explosive in Iraq, and when the Iraqi police busted them, the Brits freed them from the police station by tanks, it just makes you wonder what these soliders wanted to do, and why the Brits didn’t take about it, and what exactly the plans for the USA and the Brits in Iraq.
I never said that we have a freedom in our country, but neither do you.
Enjoy your freedom being ignorant.
By the way, nobody can skip fasting, even if he so rich, God doesn’t know rich or poor, we are all the same. If somebody skipped one day in Ramadan, nothing make it up, even if he fast all time till he died, unless God frogive him, and God is the most merciful.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
@Mohamed,
I tell you what’s wrong with islam including ramadan. Even
religion has to keep it’s step with time and be renewed.
Islam has lost that step and is still existing in the past.
Again, I say, if you are happy about it enjoy it but don’t
musterbate or fuck in ramadan when you should’nt. You can
swallow your own saliva, any time …. that’s not a sin.
Also if you’re filthy rich you can skip ramadan and make a
pig of yourself and fuck till you balls are dry as long as
you feed the poor. I am aware that rich people do just that.
In a democracy governments are elected by people.
If you don’t agree with what the government says or does
vote for a change. In the USA and Britain this is possible
I’m not sure about this in your native country.
Finally, yes I belive in God. I belive the God that is not
impressed by how much you pray and the way you fast or keep
to traditions but by all that is simple and good.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
You know why Thank God is common comment, because you born with, you instinct knows that God exist, but you are refusing it.
When you are in troublt and even you are athiest, you will direct your hands up and ask for his hlep, like cat stevens(Yusuf Islam), when he was about to drawn, he asked God for help, and he didn’t even know what’s God, but he knows there is one.
You can keep fighting, but you will only blame yourself.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
@mohamed
“thank god” is a common phrase in many languages. it is used by religious and non-religious people alike, so it has lost all of its original meaning…
what’s wrong with ramadan? it’s a pointless and potentially hazardous activity. same goes for the muslim style of praying… heavy on repetition and procedure… might even be hypnosis inducing. when i watched those videos you linked it was the same thing: endless repetition of meaningless words. pre-packaged answers to trivial questions, repeated over and over again. you muslims sure love to repeat stuff…
July 4th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Dick heaed,
Do you believe in God? one of your comments you said “thank God”, so I wonder do you believe in God?
July 4th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Tell me what’s wrong with what you wrote? about Ramadan, what’s really so bad about it.
The other thing that you misunderstood me about, my comments about USA and Britain was not about the people, what I was refering to is the Gov, I think the USA people are really nice people, and I met few Brits and they were really fine people add to that most of them are smart.
I’m talking about governments not people, I have the same feeling about my own gov, all lies.
The other thing what about the secret prisons all over the world?????
I’m not against people, people has not bussines in raging war and get oil and get empires, it’s just group of people.
I wonder if the Brits was marching against the occuption for almost the whole world.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:54 am
@alcari #2656
It seems them there are 2 prophets not just one. lol
Just joking, Mohamed.
BTW, I’ve been reading Ramadan Governing Rules:
WHO IS EXEMPT FROM SAWM?
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1 the insane
2 children who are not adolescent yet
3 the elderly and chronically ill for whom fasting is unreasonably strenuous; Such persons are required to feed at least one poor person every day in Ramadan for which he or she has missed fasting.
3 pregnant women and nursing may postpone the fasting at a later time
4 the ill and the travellers can also defer their fasting.
Allah says in the Qur’an, Surah Al-Baqara
VALIDITY OF FASTING
===================
1 Abstaining from food, liquids and sexual activity from dawn to sunset
2 The intention to fast must be made every day before dawn. The intention (niyyah) may be made during night before going to sleep or it can also be made at the time of Suhoor before dawn. Suhoor is eating before fasting. It should be as close to Fajr time as possible.
The following are the things that require Qada only:
====================================================
1 Eating or drinking intentionally. This includes non-nourishing items taken by mouth.
2 Deliberately causing oneself to throw up.
3 The beginning of menstruation or post-childbirth bleeding even in the last moment before sunset.
4 Ejaculation for reasons other than sexual intercourse.
5 Intending to break the fast before sunset even if one changes his mind, since intention is one of the pre-requisites of the validity of fasting.
6 Eating, drinking or having intercourse after dawn on the mistaken assumption that it is not dawn yet. Similarly, engaging in these acts before Maghrib on the mistaken assumption that it is already sunset.
Things that not only require Qada but also Kaffarah are the following:
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Sexual intercourse during fasting(dawn to dusk). The penalty is to fast an additional period of 60 continuous days. If one is not able to do so then he must feed sixty poor people-one average meal each.
Before the days of the Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.), slavery was a common practice in the Arab world. Islam eliminated slavery from the society in a very short period of time. A useful approach was to allow people free a slave as a charity or as a penalty for a sin. Thus during the time of the Prophet(S.A.W.), setting a slave free was the penalty one must pay as a kaffarah, if he or she had a slave.
What DOES NOT BREAK THE FAST
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1 If anyone forgets that he is fasting and eats or drinks, he should complete his fast, for it is only Allah who has fed him and given him drink. (A Hadith from Muslim).
2 Unintentional vomiting.
3 Swallowing things which are not possible to avoid, such as one’s saliva, street dust, smoke, etc.
4 Brushing the teeth.
5 Injection or intra-venous which is solely medical and not nutritional.
Breaking of fast under exceptional conditions.
==============================================
Muslims are permitted to break the ordained fast of Ramadan when there is danger to their health. In this situation a Muslim should make up his fast later at any other time of the year.
No wonder these people are still talking the about crusades.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:11 am
Dick head, you must be new here so a little insight on mohamed (I really hate personal attacks, but these are facts)
Mohamed thinks sperm comes from the spine, he thinks the US and europe are responsible for intelligent muslims killing other intelligent muslims. He thinks the Islam is the sole reason science is here and denies everything bad that muslims have ever done (invade europe etc.)
Also, great argument, Can’t wait for an intelligent response (as if that will come)
July 4th, 2007 at 5:15 am
@Mohamed,
So now the “USA and Great Britain†are liars. We heard this
one before ….. and you choose to live in a country of
liars ?
The torture you are writing about has been exposed my the
press the USA and Britain. How is that for freedom of
expression ?
I think you are trying to justify terorism by blaming it on
coalition forces in Iraq. As I said before all wars are ugly
and must be avoided at all cost.
I have seen protest marches in huge masses against the Gulf
war. Have there been any such protests in islamic countries
against Al-Qaida and the rest of them ?
What you belive in is your buisness like all the other
muslims. Who am I to interfere?
I’m just expressing my views against terorism which taking
place in the name of islam. Yet so far (I repeat) nothing or
very little is happening by your spiritual leaders to
segragate islamic terorist groups from islam.
To remain silent is a form of consent.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:24 am
Dick head
I agree with you, but the other liars should leave Iraq first, Before Iraq all the Muslims country sympathized with USA, and they welcome the war in Afghinstan, but after the war in Iraq especially they didn’t find anything and tht torture happened on USA and Brits hands, nobody believes USA or Britan, they lost their crediability, most Muslims believe now that what ever you see on TV, it’s just another episode in the bid show.
I don’t believe USA nor Britain, they lied a lot, why this one not lie too.
Based on what you are saying, I’m going against Islam because I don’t believe in Viloence, and many other Muslims.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:17 am
You misunderstood my friend, they want to die For god, but if they fight and they acheive victory, they are not going to kill them self.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:11 am
@Mohamed,
Don’t try to pass on the brain washing bit on me. Thanks God
I have my own brain to think with and nobody can convince me
that commiting suicide, killing and kidnapping innocent people will send me to heaven.
I’m writing from personal experince. I have spoken with
muslims that the largest majority of them approve of
violence because it is in defence of God (so the say)
Now there is another wave of sheer bloody murder comming
on in Great Britain. Is this also media propaganda against
islam ?
Unless the highest authorities of islam “stand up” and create international awareness that terorism is not part
of islam, the general belief will remain that islam invokes
terorism.
July 4th, 2007 at 1:21 am
[b]Those people that God mentioned were the people they fight face to face, and they didn’t want to get killed, they were fighting, but if they killed they are in heaven, they didn’t commit any suicide.
[\b]
Excuse me?!
They didn’t want to get killed? Dude, you really need to read more about islam!
I don’t remember the exact characters in this hadith but it went somethin like this “at the night before some battle the prophet told three people who were sitting with him to make a wish from god [skipping through the first two] and the third one said ‘I ask allah to send me two strong men from [the enemies] whom I kill, and then send me another one who kills me so that i may be a martyr(in arabic: Shahid)”
How can you seriously say that those people did not want to die? You are making some very uninformed claims about Islam, I am sure god will punish you severely for that(kidding)
July 3rd, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Dick head, are you that weak to let somebody brain-wash you, have you ever dealt with Muslims.
We don’t brain-wash anybody, and I don’t expect you to involve you with any activity, me only argument when you deal with Muslims, you might know the truth, but the Muslims you see in the media, and they are so freaking freaks, they are slected by the media you show how freaks are the Muslims.
Agony,
I think I recall the verse “and don’t ye think those who are killed for god(during jihad) are dead, for they are alive with their godâ€
Those people that God mentioned were the people they fight face to face, and they didn’t want to get killed, they were fighting, but if they killed they are in heaven, they didn’t commit any suicide.
I hope this point is clear, because I know it’s not over yet.
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:20 am
@Mohammed,
I think you are defending a lost case. I will never involve
myself in any islamic activities. Brain washing is not my
way to go ! Imams can “condemn” in Friday’s speaches and
invoke it on any other day of the week, lol. It’s not enough
to preach to the few.
Unless there is somthing done on an open large scale as it
is being done by the leaders of islamic terorists nobody
will belive that the vast magority cares for peace.
I’m sure that the islamic comunity in the USA is in the
large magority against terorisim since the USA is a prime
target and terorisim does not discriminate. In Iraq more
innocent civilians are dying than soldiers. What about 9-11
Thre we go again !! The old story, Christians and Jews. No
othe rligion exept islam encourages it’s followers to
commit suicide. Yes I follow all sort of media and have
never seen any mass protest againt those terorists that are
kidnapping innocent victims.
What has the Libby case got to do with organized terorism ?
If you don’t agree with the laws in the USA just leave.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:57 am
@Mohammed,
I think I recall the verse “and don’t ye think those who are killed for god(during jihad) are dead, for they are alive with their god”
Now since the Ayah didn’t mention who killed them, it can be interpretted that suicide bombing(since it’s for GOD) will get you into heaven.
Just shows how easy it is to give your holy book quite a violent meaning(why didn’t god foresee this and write it in a DEFINITIVE language that is not subject to such interpretations like math?)
Oh I’m not saying this is the only way to get the 77 virgins, but it certainly is one way(not that hard if you believe in a great afterlife)
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Mr dick,
You claim that there are no Imams condmend the terrorism, have you been to mosque, have you attend Friday speech in mosque, and saw what the Imams say, you are just watching media news, you don’t even involve in Islamic community in USA to know what they think about, so your assumption is wrong, you just repeating what the media says, and if the media concerned about the Imams or the Muslims opinion, where are the Muslims in the media, they get christian and Jews to talk about Muslims, and you know what will happen when Christian and Jews talk about Islam.
So you also assume that you have to blast your self to ge to heave, that’s mean I have no chance to go to heaven based on your criteria, sucide is forbidden in Islam, God didn’t say if it’s sucidal bombers he will be in heaven, God prohibit all suicide.
By the way I didn’t see any body demonstrate in the streets for let Libby free today, what a justice?
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:52 am
@Mohamed #2645
I have replied to each peragraph of your post but
unfortunatly the site crashed while it was uploading.
Basically my reply has been as to what does it matter if
you are not living in a counrty that “exports” terorists.
Peace loving muslims could still protest against terorisim.
When the Mohammed cartoons have been published there has
been (mostly violent) protests in quite a few countries not
just in Denmark !
I have never heard of an imam that has seriously condemed
terorism. Perhaps the true peace loving muslims are very few
On the contrary “some” imams are instigating terorism in the
name of God and islam. What right has islam to implicate God
in barbaric brutal murders. The days of muslims againts
crusades are long gone but it appears that most muslims are
still living in that age.
Yes is is a global issue and that’s why muslims more than
others have to stand up and protest against terorism.
Is it perhaps belived by muslims that to go to haven you
will have to blast yourself and murder innocent people ?
True war is ugly and must be condemmed but at least it has
a face. Do terorists have faces ??
July 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pm
I agree,
Why USA and Britan have bases in ME, why they try to control every thing in ME?
Argument over that will not be over, there are two sides of every fact, I know that there are stupid Muslims out there, use Islam to show off and get famous.
Tell me who the number onw known person in so called Muslim, isn’t Usama Bin Laden, and how should you want us protest against terrorist, we don’t where are they where they live, people demonstrate against govs, because they know where they are and what they are doing.
Terrorist lives in Afghinstan, what our demonstration would do about it, and if you want to know where are the terrorism start, it started in Egypt, and we we shouting out loud for help from USA and Britian, and you know what were they asnwer, they were saying it’s your issue we have nothing to do with it, and now they knew it wasn’t just one country issue, it’s global issue.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Mohamed #2643
“I agree with you, but ask your self one question, are these people fled from their country to occupy country, or they searching for better mean of living, because theire country and thier government left them with nothing.”
What I ask myself is why are these people, which in their
vast majority are muslims, are not being taken in by other
muslim countries like Libya where most of them are using as
a point of departure. Is that what islam is all about ?
What about muslims that are living in other countries and
are causing all the bloodshed with their terorist acts. Im
not a great sympathizer of the USA or Great Britan but is it
not the people that they have given shelter that are causing
all the terorism in the name of islam.
Have you ever heard or seen a demonstration agains terorism
my muslims as seen in the USA against the gulf war ?
Back to the origin of this thread: Why did a few harmless
cartoons had to be used as an escuse for all that violence?
Why has a person (Salman Rushdie) be persecuted with a threat of death for the rest of his life because he wrote
his opinion ?
Remember all this is happening now in the name of islam.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Dick head,
I agree with you, but ask your self one question, are these people fled from their country to occupy country, or they searching for better mean of living, because theire country and thier government left them with nothing.
Most of this persons has families to feed, and that’s why the do that, the same thing apply to me, I’m here in USA for the same purpose, I have no intention occupy USA.
What about Mexican in USA, did you blame christinity for it? NO, in the contrary I heard from a lot of Mexican that California is a Mexican terrtory and they can’t wait to get it back.
I’m not trying to make racial comments, but people try to stuck everything on Islam, what Islam has to do with that.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:32 am
Mohamed, I agree with you that it is not correct to occupy
somebody else’s country. However this is what’s happening in
Europe. Illigal immigrants (mostly muslims) are leving
their country in small boats via Libya and landing in other
countries.
I expect that if Islam is a mercyfull “religion” as muslim
brothers they should be hosted by muslim countries and not
being a burden on the country where they happen to land or
be rescued by. Libya is even refusing to rescue these
people. Shame on islam and islamic countries !!!
July 1st, 2007 at 2:51 am
So do you think it’s right to take somebody’s else land and make a civilized country on it, so if Muslim was able to occupy Yougslavia and make civilized country over there, will you agree?
Israel is civilized country because the help and aid they get from USA, all their weapons are American weapons.
I hope you read what you say and think about it for a second and you will not write it, because you have lack of logic.
June 30th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
USA is a civilized country on someone else’s land. whats your point? take a look, and see what israel has accomplished, and what the other muslims countries have accomplished.
June 30th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Civilized country on somebody’s else land, that must be civilized, any way it doesn’t amaze what you assume any more, it’s enough that you assume yourself civilized.
June 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
@mohamed
what are the jews capable of really? lets see… they beat the surrounding countries several times in defensive wars. they developed a civilized, secular and democratic society, something you muslims are not really capable of…
June 30th, 2007 at 10:12 am
God bless you Can.
June 30th, 2007 at 12:09 am
erturk is just a fucking idiot like the rest of the brainwashed ragheads, the dangerous people in this world are not jews, but muslim robots!!, they spout koranic shit like talking toys!!.
long live israel
long live america
long live the UK
June 29th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
And (remember) when Allâh will say (on the Day of Resurrection): “O ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?’ ” He will say: “Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my innerÂself though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the AllÂKnower of all that is hidden and unseen.
117. “Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allâh) did command me to say: ‘Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord.’ And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world).
118. “If You punish them, they are Your slaves, and if You forgive them, verily You, only You are the AllÂMighty, the AllÂWise[].”
June 29th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Because we know what they are able to do, and we know their history, and we know how they tried to kill Jesus, and how they tried to kill Muhammed, and read the history.
Why do you think they complain that they are always presecuted, because always doing something bad, and that’s why people don’t like them.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
You, my friend Erturk, make no sense. If Jews are the power of the world, you should definitely listen what they have to say. You would not go to the broke person for advice on how to manage your business, would you?
P.S. Why are muslims are so insecure about Jews. Do Jews have a bigger penis?
June 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
Hi everybody, christians and Muslims, please read my thoughtful writing
well, At first these cartoons are naughty and disrespectful. I think they should not have been published. Because muslims love their prophet, HZ. Muhammed Mustafa. Although all muslims, some of them, are not religious, they deeply show reaction against this type of disresfulness. But, we cant publish bad cartoons upon Jesus like you did. As we are muslims, we believe in the teachings of all prophets including Jesus ,Hz. Ä°sa.This belief is mandatory in the teaching of Ä°slam. Ä°f we dont believe in Jesus, we cant become a Muslim. So why are we fighting?
Brothers, sisters!!!
Actually our enemy for both muslims and christians is Jewish people. Jews hate both Jesus ,and Muhammed and all people except Jews. They manage the world, they have almost all most powerful companies. And then, Jews want Christians and muslims to be enemy. Please notice jews who dont actually seem as jew maybe seem as christian, because they are too dangerous people. There are some this type of jews in Turkiye and they have a lot of companies. Just note this, in other word, become friend with muslims and christians and dont listen to jews.
I am a student from Turkiye….
June 29th, 2007 at 8:57 am
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June 27th, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Hehe, This thread is always good for a nice laugh, and a demonstration of how not to write (post 2619 was physically painfull)
June 27th, 2007 at 5:12 am
Be VERY careful what you say mohamed, or I will issue a “fatwa”, and my followers will behead you!!!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
You really need to grow up.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
what do you mean “good luck”, mohamed??, I don’t need luck as I am your new prophet!!.
so get on your knees NOW and start praying to me
June 26th, 2007 at 6:35 am
Hahahaha ;)
June 25th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
Good luck.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:59 am
AMAZING NEWS mohamed!!!!!
god appeared to me in a dream last night and told me that mohammed didn’t REALLY have any revelations from allah, but was just hallucinating!!
God also said YOU are actually my prophet crusader!!, so from now on mohamed, when you pray, you must face WEST!!
(god guides whoever he wants)
June 25th, 2007 at 2:38 am
“God guides who ever he wants”
And that makes your god quite unjust.
June 24th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Crusader, you are free to think what ever you want, God guides who ever he wants.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
I HAVE looked at islam and read the koran, but i STILL think it’s bullshit!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
I want to say to my non muslim brothers and sisters that before saying anything to our Prophet(peace be upon him)it is much more better to study his life.we muslims are peace lover and respect every religion.have we ever said anything wrong about hazrat iessa our Hazrat Jacob”No”why? becoz they were too messengers of Allah and we do belive in them.
Why dont you listen or read to Dr.zakir naik.i would say to all non muslim that first study then think from your own mind(not your pops or parents)then say anything about our Islam.i have a question from christians who was nustora and why did he accept Islam in Holy Prophet’s period?
June 24th, 2007 at 11:54 am
WELL…I WANNA SAY SUMTHIN TO ALL ATHIESTS N I WANT THEM TO FINK BOUT IT….
(IM SURE ALL TRUE MUSLIMS NO HIM PROPERLY abu hanifah)… i herd this story bout abu hanifah in his yong age talkin to an athiest..and so the athiest said “how can you muslims believe in god?”..abu hanifah said”wait a minute and ill tell you why”…then after a while abu hanifah said “once there was a huge boat with so much wealth and very expensive goods in it and the boat was going across the sea with no one driving it and it reached the shore.” the athiest said “you are mad what are you talking about? how can a boat with such expensive goods and wealth be driven along by itself?”…then abu hanifah said “then how ridiculous can u athiest people be?…how can you belive the earth,the world,the universe get controlled by itself just gravity turn out by itself?..how can you not believe that god is controlling earth then?”..the athiest ws found dumbstruck and became a muslim. finsihed….one more thing i take mohammed’s way(the mohammed above) and his opinion coz that is the way to take islam and every muslim i’ve met takes the same opinion,the same way.
byeee!salam to the muslims
p.s no answering like the person (cntell) cuz i aint gona cum bak to this site!
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 am
Noss,
I don’t have to listen, I know they exist, and I know some scholars promote violence, and that’s the prominent ones in the west, they are trying to show off and of course people listen to them and they undermine the moderate ones.
These scholars even scare me when I listen to them, and I had alot of arguments with some of them in Egypt and I’m still one piece, I know where are they coming from, they mostly were nothing, and they started to be scholars to have an attention.
To be scholar, it takes a lot of thing, you have to memorize all the Quran, and you have to know how to interpret Quran, you have to know Hadith and you have to know Feqh, it’s not that easy to be scholar in Islam, so some of the people who pretends they are cholars, don’t even qualify to be one(memorizing Quran is not enough), you have to konw what does it mean and what the occassion for it.
Extremest evey where, every religion and even Ethiest(Boris) he always promot to get rid of Muslims, and I’m sure there a plenty of him out there.
June 23rd, 2007 at 5:50 am
Mohamed, there’s truth in what you say, but it is also true that the general trend appear to be toward violence. Please, spend 20 minutes listening this podcast with an interview with a muslim scholar:
http://www.pointofinquiry.org/?p=101
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 am
Believe me alot of Muslims share the same opinion, you just see Usama Bin Laden as representer of Islam, which is false statment, if you really think about it. Bin laden is a Saudi citizen and where he lives? somewhere in Afghanstan, so deos Elzawahary he is an Egyptian and live in Afghanstan, you tell me why these people left their country?
Good Muslims are undermined on the American media, they always host either priest or Rabbai to talk about Islam, I have no idea why? Do you think they know better than Muslims themself.
God even says to our prophet in Quran ” You don’t guide people, I’m the one who guide”, our prophet was just delivering the message not more, so do we.
in the other verse in Quran God told our prophet tell people “you have you religion and I have mine, I don’t worship what you worship and I don’t worship what you worship”.
Do you think god will be happy if you become Muslim and you are oppressed, sure no, he wants you to have the choice.
June 22nd, 2007 at 11:50 pm
Mohamed, If all Muslems share your way of thinking Islam will never be used as an excuse for terrorism.
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:28 pm
I don’t have to prove you wrong, or right, it’s your call my friend, it’s not mine.
I believe you are an educated person, who can judge from argument who says right and who says wrong, I choose my path and you choose yours, it’s not me who is going to guide you nor Ahamed Deeday, only god guides who wants.
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:21 am
I believe that Jesus Christ is God, You can prove me wrong
in the world to come so let’s wait till then !
June 21st, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Charles McConnell,
You want to know what really the Bible says, here is link for this Muslim Gut knows the Bilble even better than Christians, if you dare to watch it. The guy name is Ahmed Deedat, you can google his name and see the videos for him, but I’m sure you won’t.
Here is the link for one of his videos,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8832483328158278257&q=deedat+videos&total=253&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
June 21st, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Funny how Muhomad makes reference to the Bible yet the Bible makes no mention of him. The bible tells us that a Prophet would come in the last days. Jesus tells his Diceples that it would be John the Baptist. The Book of MALACHI says its ELIJAH (Chapt. 4) and A Messenger (Chapt. 3) Jesus says this MESSENGER is John the Baptist. John’s Father was told that John would have ELIJAH’S power and spirit. I just thought of something Muhomed is mentioned in the BIBLE……..when it says “Beware of FALSE Prophets”….Oh and by the way John the Baptist…the MESSENGER of the COVENANT Has CAME look to: http://www.Elijahmessaqge.com
June 18th, 2007 at 9:18 am
“”Indubitable”"
That sir, grants you one WIN.
Also, thanks for providing humor to this thread.
June 17th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Why boris, I will happily translate for you!
“for 2601! what the ??all muslims aint terrorists… tnx 4 sayin that their bitches cuz….bitches r dogs…dogs bark..a bark is frm a tree…trees are natural n nature is beautiful !!..tnx 4 the compliment..nywz lets get bak to the point….evry1 b nyc to each otha respect evry1s religon!….remember terrorist means sum1 hu lyks stayin in a territory by themselves….remember that true muslims are not the 1s hu lyk to kill…they lyk peace…they believe in jesus also as their prophet….christianity is the closest religion to islam(in our prophets opinion). muhammad and jesus looked alike..and also 1 mre thing it says in the bible that jesus sed sumthin lyk there will be a prophet after me n his name will be ahmed or muhammad which means the same thing…so y disgrace a religon that ur own jesus or sumthing(not to be rude but i dunno wot he is to u) sed that muhammad will cum and he will preach a religion.n thats wot we believe in….n i aint gonna cum bak to this site so no point of tellin me nethin!…
by!”
Is simply his trying to say:
“Excuse me good sir, but what incredulous comment have you uttered? It is fact that all members of the Islamic faith are not in fact those who wish to commit acts of terror upon innocents! I thank you for saying previously that all members of the Islamic faith are ‘bitches’ because, you see, bitches are, technically speaking, dogs, dogs are animals that bark, bark is something that comes from a tree, and trees are a part of God’s great Creation, which means that your comment was in fact great praise. Indubitable! I thank you.
Anyway, we should return to the subject at hand. I am of the opinion that we should all, being members of God’s great Creation, be kinder to each other and respect each others’ respective religions. Recall that, according to the generally agreed upon definition of a ‘terrorist’ we are referring to is someone who prefers to be in a territory of their own. Also remember that Muslims who are in fact true practicing Muslims are not supporters of unjust killing. They are in fact a very peaceful people, and accept Jesus as a prophet in their religion. Smashing! Furthermore, bear in mind my good friends that technically Christianity is the closest religion to Islam according to the prophet Muhammed (blessings and peace be upon him). Why in fact, Jesus and Muhammed looked alike! They may have been the spitting image of each other! Also, bear in mind that in the Bible it at some point unrecalled by me at the moment said that Jesus said that there will in fact be one more prophet after himself, and that that prophet will be named something along the lines of Ahmed or Muhammed (blessings and peace be upon him). Therefore you are judging erroneously in attacking a religion that your own leader “or something” (because I, as a non-Christian, cannot describe his relationship to you with certainty) said will arrive. Capital! And that, in conclusion, is what we believe.
As a final note, I will not be returning to this site, so any attempts to respond will be rendered impotent by my non-presence.
Cheerio!”
(stereotypical British comments added for emphasis)
June 17th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Alright everyone, calm down for The Supreme Being’s sake. I think we all just need to chill out and have some nice buttsex.
Buttsex!
Seriously though, can’t everyone just try to be more loving, caring and understanding?
Oh, wait… I’m sorry; I must have forgotten how full of contradiction humans are.
Damn humans.
June 17th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
@cnttell
i don’t speak retard… care to translate to english?
June 17th, 2007 at 9:19 am
for 2601! what the ??all muslims aint terrorists… tnx 4 sayin that their bitches cuz….bitches r dogs…dogs bark..a bark is frm a tree…trees are natural n nature is beautiful !!..tnx 4 the compliment..nywz lets get bak to the point….evry1 b nyc to each otha respect evry1s religon!….remember terrorist means sum1 hu lyks stayin in a territory by themselves….remember that true muslims are not the 1s hu lyk to kill…they lyk peace…they believe in jesus also as their prophet….christianity is the closest religion to islam(in our prophets opinion). muhammad and jesus looked alike..and also 1 mre thing it says in the bible that jesus sed sumthin lyk there will be a prophet after me n his name will be ahmed or muhammad which means the same thing…so y disgrace a religon that ur own jesus or sumthing(not to be rude but i dunno wot he is to u) sed that muhammad will cum and he will preach a religion.n thats wot we believe in….n i aint gonna cum bak to this site so no point of tellin me nethin!…
by!
June 15th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
ya bu ınsanlık nereye dogru gidiyo ben bunu anlıyamadım artık herkes bırbırıne camur atmaya calısır olmus ve su anda daha kendı tarıhını bılemeyen bakın bilemeyen deıl blemeyen ınsanlar bızımle ugrasır olmuslar bır ıncıle baktıgımız zaman sureklı her hafta kutlamalar her hafta sonu saraplar yok ıste kalkıp tovbe estafurullah allahın elcısı dıe adlandırdıkları papazmıdır nedır ona gıdıp gunah cıkarmak ama bunları kendı kendılerıne oyle bır adapte etmıslerkı artık butun dunyayı bu seytan gıysısı guymıs adı ınsanlar taksım caddesınde ıncıl bıle dagıtmaya baslamıslardır hatta resımlere bakarsanız daha cok TÃœRKÄ°YE’yi elestırme amaclı daha cok ay ve yıldızımızı kullanmıslardır ama bu zamanda buda bır acı gercektırkı artık gercek muslumanlık kalmamıstır herkesın ıcınde kın herkesın ıcınde nerfret dolmustur ıntıkam atesı bızı kendı ıcımızde sondurmeye baslamıstır hatta bır ıngılız komutanının soyledıgı cumleler de bıle sunu soylıyor bu ulkenın ya dilini yada dinini bozarsak bu ülkeyi feth edebılırız ıste su andakı olayda budur vede bız su anda kendı ulkemızde yavas yavas azınlık olmaya baslıyacagız daha su andakı gunlerımıze sukr edecegız nıe dersenız bu kafayla bu ulke fazla devam edemez allah hepımızın yardımcısı olsun ama herkesın bu tur olaylara daha hassas ve bu tur olaylara ıse daha mert bır sekılde ama yanlıs bır hareket ıle degıl en dogrusu ıle butun dunyaya ornek olucak sekılde devam ettırmelıyız ve artık muslumanlık dınını butun dunyaya anlatmalıyız onların bıze su anda modern dıerek yaptıkları haçlı seferlerı gıbı ama bunlar herkes ıcın gecerlıdır kurdu sunnısı alevısı hepsı ıcın gecerlıdır hepımız bu ulkede yasıyoruz hepımız kardesız hepımız müslüman evladıyız ve bızı karıstırmaya calısanlara goz yummamalıyız selametle kalın aziz kardeÅŸlerim
June 14th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
ananızı sikim
Nice logical argument there that obivously appeals to our sense of reason to see your point of view. After your post I think I will have to go back and seriously review my belief system and my opinions on these cartoons.
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June 14th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
afedersiniz ßuraya qeLen ßayanlarda war ama dayanamadım ßütün kafirLerin we ßu kanaLa destek weren ßütün qayrimüsLimlerin daha süLaLesini sikeyim !!!
June 13th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
FUCK ALL THE MUSLIM IMMAGRANT BITCHES, Stupid cunt terrorist bastard.