Muhammed Caricatures

UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE

UPDATE Feb 4, 2006: MUSLIM RESPONSE IS HERE

Here is a permanent home for the 12 Muhammed caricatures that were printed in the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten. If you don’t have a sense of humor then leave. They are just cartoons and nothing more. Comments will be enabled on here so please feel free to leave them. Keep it civil and please don’t storm my website with RPGs and machine guns. Oh, flag burning is unacceptable aswell. But feel free to boycot my site as that is a peaceful means of protest.

 

UPDATE Feb 13, 2006: HAMSHAHRI HOLOCAUST CARTOONS HERE

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  1. 3503
    Korgan Says:

    Muslim woman,

    You seem to have missed infidel’s point, and the subject of posts 3493 and 3492.

    As far as what a “real muslim” is, does the Koran specify that, or not? And if not, where is appropriate behavior for a real muslim defined? The Koran clearly prescribes violence, as has already been presented, and is a pretty obvious basis for terrorism. Therefore, one would conclude that the violent muslims referred to as “radicals” are the real muslims, and that the so-called moderates are simply not being true to their professed religion.

    Religion is ridiculous.

  2. 3502
    Muslim woman Says:

    Sorry, I’ve probably used a wrong word (Bush) at the end of my following writing. I didn’t mean “Bush government’s role” but the USA governments’s role in the cold war time period (1945-1990) about financing the islamic terrorism. Here is another article:

    “During the cold war in order to control the Warsaw Pact countries the United States, in its capacity as a western superpower, generated false Islam under the name of Green Belt imposing it to many Muslim countries including also Turkey. The Green Belt Islam is nothing else than false Islam reflecting Middle East and Persian traditions. Yet, it was necessary to keep it vital and praise it since taking advantage of the Muslim world as a cheap knight against the Iron Curtain was directly related to the viability of this false Islam. If the Muslims could only cognise the essence of their religion as well as priority for rational and knowledge the existence of the Green Belt Chivalry would have been doomed to failure.

    Following the end of the cold war the Green Belt knights appeared as new enemies to the West. This time they were announced as children of terror and had to be tamed. This, in its turn, required generating of test-tube baby Islams in order to lull the vigilance of the Muslim world… This is the foundation for the new western strategies. The West exploits the Muslim world and, at the same time, mocks at them.

    The Muslims and, especially, the Muslim Turks have served for years as the Green Belt knights for the West (especially, for the USA) at the cost of compromising essence of their religion. At the end of the cold war the former knights become main new time enemies. The cheap knights at present started to fight their old masters.”

    What do you think about this and also the real islam and the real muslims?

  3. 3501
    Muslim woman Says:

    infidel - But you’ve already used the word “radical islamists” at the beginning of your writing and you’re still asking “tell us how they’re not real muslims” at the end. Of course they’re not real muslims but radical ones. And this is not islam but “sharia”! 99% of Turks are muslims and as Turkey is not directed with sharia, such things can’t happen here.

    rucker and the other friends - Sorry for I’m always repeating this but I’ll say it again now: The main misunderstanding is that you often confuse “islam” with “sharia”. But I know you think that the real islam already means sharia and real muslims are already radical ones. Then can you say what we are if they’re real muslims? Are we “light muslims” here, something like “light cigarettes”? The point I always want to highlight is: In fact the real muslims are us and the real islam is ours. So when christians, jews and mostly infidels get angry with radical muslims or islamic terrorists, they begin to mock at islamic values but this hurts moderate muslims rather than radical ones. I mean you can’t hit the target in fact but bother moderate muslims instead of this. Is this really what you want to do? And such things cause more hatred among societies. Please be sure of this: Radical muslims’ and terrorists’ ideas commit only themselves not us. You’ll say again: “Why don’t you stop the terrorists and radical muslims then?” Do you really think that it’s easy? Noone can stop them.They’ve been supported until now. Look at this article named as “no war!”:

    http://www.antikapitalist.net/makale/dunya/21.htm

    In Turkish:
    “ABD yonetimi gerici gucleri desteklemekten hic cekinmedi. Usame Bin Ladin ve Talibani destekledi ve finanse etti.”

    This means: “The government of the USA didn’t hesitate to support the reactionist powers, supported and finansed Osame bin Laden and Taliban.”

    If this is true, you have to think also if Bush’s government had made some mistakes or not rather than always judging muslims so hard. Because every result has a reason in fact.

    We can act like a buzz group here on this forum. I’m asking you what you think about Turkey’s “light cigarettes”, if radicals are real muslims what we are. And.. what you think about Bush government’s role related with financing the islamic terrorism.

  4. 3500
    rucker Says:

    Now infidel, you have been warned over and over that islam is a religion of peace and love for all and deep respect for women. Now if you don’t get it through your head that muslims are peaceful as doves, they are going to have to cut off your head. It’s really the only way that infidels are ever going to learn about allah’s love.

  5. 3499
    infidel Says:

    “Public anger at the recent stoning of a 13-year-old girl in Somalia shows the growing resentment towards radical Islamists who have gained control of much of the south and centre of the country.

    Insurgents from the militant group al-Shabab are seen as authoritarian and unaccountable - unlike the Islamists who were in control of the capital, Mogadishu, in 2006.

    Asha Ibrahim Dhuhulow was stoned to death for adultery in the southern port city of Kismayo, which was taken control by al-Shabab and its allies in August.

    I don’t know what crime she committed other than being raped - and I was not even allowed to see her body

    Asha Ibrahim Dhuhulow’s aunt

    Her 62-year-old aunt told the BBC that the teenager had in fact been raped by three armed men - and she took Asha to the police station to report it.

    Several days later, after two suspects had been arrested, she was asked to return to the station with her niece.

    To her surprise the girl was taken into custody too.

    “I tried to speak to the police but they said they were not talking,” she said.

    Three days later, after Asha had been tried in an Islamist court, she was stoned to death.

    “They said that the girl had chatted up these men and had confessed to adultery,” she said.

    But the aunt said the authorities clearly failed to notice her age, how mentally disturbed she was by her experience, or her history of mental illness.

    “She was only 13 years old. I have got her card from Hagarder refugee camp which has her age on it. She might have looked a bit older, but you could tell her age by talking to her,” she said.

    Law and order

    Other critics point to the lack of lawyers, witnesses or appeal process.

    The Islamists were reported to have announced their verdict the day before the stoning from cars with loudspeakers.

    But Asha’s aunt was not informed of the court’s decision - despite repeated visits to the police station.

    “I was not even told that she was to be killed, I just heard it from people after it happened.

    “I don’t know what crime she committed other than being raped; and I was not even allowed to see her body,” she said.

    Al-Shabab in Kismayo has refused attempts by the BBC to discuss the stoning.”

    COME ON ALL YOU RAGHEADS………….

    Tell us how they are not “REAL” muslims, lol

  6. 3498
    piss on allah! Says:

    …and to Korgan.. Could have Goatse-rolled him, for extra points!

  7. 3497
    piss on allah! Says:

    Muhammad Nom-nom-nom-an Ahmed Says: writer is son of bitch.

    Does this mean that he’s admitting to being a ’son of bitch’?
    Or does it mean that he thinks Moo-Moo-hammad is a ’son of bitch’?

    I, for one, believe that the latter is correct..however, the former does have it’s merits.

    He’ll probably tell me to ‘go to hill’ now… Ooooh-kaay!

  8. 3496
    Korgan Says:

    In the name of Gozer, The Mighty, The Green and Slimy,

    Here is an appropriate response to Muhammad Noman Ahmed’s copy and paste job of religious spewing.

    Religion is ridiculous.

  9. 3495
    Muhammad Noman Ahmed Says:

    In the name of Allah, The Merciful, The All-merciful

    Those who disbelieved and barred from God’s way, God has sent their works astray.(1)

    And those who believed and did righteous deeds, and believed in what is sent down to Muhammad __ and it is the truth form their Lord __ He has acquitted them of their evils and put right their condition.(2)

    That is because those who disbelieved followed falsehood, and those who believed followed the truth from their Lord. Thus does God describe their similitudes for Mankind.(3)

    Now when you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks. Until, when you have slaughtered them sufficiently, tie fast the bonds; then afterwards (set them free) either by grace or by ransom, till the war lays down its loads __ so it shall be. And if God had willed, He could have avenged Himself upon them, but it was so that He may try some of you by others. And those who are killed in the way of God, He will never send their works astray.(4)

    He will guide them and put right their condition;(5)

    and He will admit them to Paradise, which He has made known to them.(6)

    O Believers, if you help God, He will help you, and will make firm your feet.(7)

    But the unbelievers __ their fate is to perish, for He has sent their deeds astray.(8)

    That is because they are averse to what God has sent down, so He has made their works to go waste.(9)

    Have they not journeyed in the land and seen how was the end of those before them? God destroyed them, and the unbelievers shall have the like of it.(10)

    That is because God is the Protector of the Believers, and the unbelievers, there is no protector for them.(11)

    God shall admit those who believe and do righteous deeds into gardens, underneath which rivers flow. And the unbelievers, they enjoy and eat as the cattle eat, and the Fire is their resort.(12)

    And how many a city there was that was stronger than thy city which has expelled thee! We destroyed them, and there was no helper for them.(13)

    Is then he who is upon a Clear Sign from his Lord like him for whom his evil deed is adorned, and they followed their caprices?(14)

    The similitude of Paradise promised to the godfearing (is this): In it are rivers of unstaling water, and rivers of milk of unchanging taste, and rivers of wine, a delight to the drinkers, and rivers of purified honey; and there they shall have every fruit, and forgiveness from their Lord. (Are they) like him who dwells in the Fire forever, and who are given to drink boiling water that tears their bowels asunder?(15)

    And some of them give ear to thee, till, when they go forth from thee, they say to those who have been given knowledge, `what has he said just now?’ Those are the ones whose hearts God has sealed and have followed their caprices.(16)

    But those who are on guidance, He increases them in guidance, and gives them their piety.(17)

    Are they only looking for the Hour that should come upon them suddenly? But its tokens have already come; and when it comes upon them, how shall they have their admonition.(18)

    Know that there is no god but God, and ask forgiveness of thy shortcomings, and for the Believing men and women; and God knows your moving about and your resort.(19)

    And the Believers say, `why is not a Sura sent down?’ But when a well-defined Sura is sent down, and fighting is mentioned therein, thou seest those in whose hearts is sickness, looking at thee with the look of one who faints at death; but preferable for them(20)

    was obedience and a desirable word. Then, when the matter is resolved, it would be better for them if they were true to God. And if you turned away, you are likely to cause disorder in the land, and cut off your bonds of blood?(21)

    Those are the ones whom God has cursed, then made them deaf, and blinded their eyes.(23)

    Do they not ponder over the Qur’an, or is it that there are locks on their hearts?(24)

    Those who have turned on their backs, after the guidance has become clear to them, the Devil tempted them and gave them hopes.(25)

    That is because they said to those who are averse to what God has sent down, `we will obey you in some of the affair;’ and God knows their secrets.(26)

    But how shall it be, when the angels take them, beating their faces and backs?(27)

    That is because they have followed what angered God, and were averse to His pleasure; so He has made their deeds to go waste.(28)

    Or did those in whose hearts is sickness think that God would not bring to light their malice?(29)

    But if We will, We would show them to thee, then thou wouldst recognise them by their mark; and thou wouldst surely recognise them by the twist of their speech; and God knows your works.(30)

    And We shall surely test you, till We know those of you who struggle and are steadfast and We shall try the news about you.(31)

    Those who disbelieved and barred from God’s way, and opposed the Messenger after the guidance had become clear to them, they will not hurt God in the least; and He will make their works to go waste. (32)

    O Believers, obey God and obey the Messenger, and do not make your works to go vain.(33)

    Those who disbelieved and barred from God’s way, then died as unbelievers, God will never forgive them.(34)

    So be not slack and do not call for peace; and you shall be the most high, for God is with you, and He will not deprive you of your works.(35)

    The present life is only a sport and a diversion; and if you believe and be godfearing, He will give you your wages, and will not ask of you your wealth.(36)

    If He asks you for it, and presses you, you would be niggardly, and He will bring forth your malice.(37)

    Ha, you are those who are called upon to expend in the way of God, then some of you are niggardly. Whoso is niggardly, he is niggardly only to himself; and God is the All-sufficient and you are the poor. And if you turn away, He will substitute another people, in place of you, then they will not be like you.(38)

  10. 3494
    Muhammad Noman Ahmed Says:

    In the name of Allah, The Merciful, The All-merciful

    Praise be to God, the Lord of the World, (1)

    the Merciful, the All-merciful, (2)

    the Master of the Day of Recompense. (3)

    Thee we serve, and to Thee we pray for help. (4)

    Guide us to the Straight Path, (5)

    the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,(6)

    not of those who incurred wrath, nor of the astray. (7)

    writer is son of bitch.
    we succes this war, we succes insha Allah. and u gone to hill

  11. 3493
    rucker Says:

    You know what would be nice? A muslim admitting that islam contains all of the violent passages, whether from the koran or hadith or whatever, and then telling us how he or she works around those things. Why do muslims always insist that islam is a religion of peace when they know it contains commands to kill Christians and Jews and that other muslims act on those commands? This is part of what gives islam and muslims a bad name (though of course the terrorism is more to the point for that) - this denial of what islam teaches in the face of the obvious fact that it does teach those things. It’s truly adding insult to injury. Also I would like a muslim to tell us what “moderate” muslims are doing to correct their fellow muslims instead of coming to sites like this to tell us not to believe our eyes and believe their words instead. That would be nice.

  12. 3492
    Korgan Says:

    Sophie,

    Thanks for your copy and paste job of post 3491. You may feel that you “need” people to read what you wrote, but the reality is that it is well documented that Islam is a religion of extreme violence, and that is as prescribed by the Quran itself.

    Merely saying in all caps that your (copied) words are “TRUE WORDS” doesn’t make them so. Evidence is required.

    Much evidence in support of the violence inherent in Islam has already been presented in this thread; that doesn’t seem to be a point of contention. However, this is a good starting point for further reading for you.

    Religion is ridiculous.

  13. 3491
    sophie :) Says:

    Okay, i need every1 here to read this:
    DO NOT THINK THAT ISLAM IS ABOUT WAR
    Islam is about peace
    get ur facts ryt my ppl
    and lissen up
    … let me just poin sommat out 2 u all
    wat in da wrld do u think is acheived by those picture ???
    nothing
    I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
    dont u see …. these pics dnt reflect the prophet of islam

    theyre just pics of nothin

    or more lyk pppl bein racist….
    Muslims are not terrorist

    if all uv seen about islam is that wich is on the media ….

    :::>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>
    ..>
    >>>>>>>>>> THEN FACE THE FACTS…. MY DEAR FRIENDS<<<<<<<<>>>>

    People of the world…..
    Do you know the truth about….. Islam?
    Or do you think it’s about
    Bombing planes and killing innocent people…..?
    Forget about the lies…..
    I’ am here to tell you how it really is…..
    You deserve to know the truth
    About this beautiful way of life…..
    People of the world
    Islam is all about peace
    Terrorism it doesn’t teach
    Its all about love and family and charity
    And praying to one God
    This is Islam
    It’s something you should know…..
    I know it’s really helped me grow
    It does away with greed, filth, arrogance
    And teaches us morality
    A perfect way to live…..
    So don’t believe all you see and hear
    Too many people wear a title of a Muslim…..
    But they don’t practice Islam…..
    People of the world
    Islam is all about peace
    Terrorism it doesn’t teach
    Its all about love and family and charity
    And praying to one God
    This is Islam
    And it teaches us the creator’s made this life for us a test…..
    And if we follow truth and do good deeds, He’ll reward us in the Next…..
    If we remember God & teach each other the truth and patience in His way
    Together we can live…..in peace…..
    This is Islam

    SO REMEMBER

    isLAm Is AlL ABOuT PEACe
    TErRoRIsN it DOEs NoT tEaCh!!!!!!!

    rememBER THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE WORDS

  14. 3490
    Muslim woman Says:

    You’ve begun to speak in secret codes:) Or is this your chat language? I could (hardly) understand the general subject. But I don’t know what these are: “ppl”, “troll”, “hu”, “chop”, “ppl’z” etc.
    Anyway, I guess, “anon” was defending muslims although he’s a christian. (Or he was claiming so). But “rucker” was not believing him. In fact I wonder why you think he must be a muslim. Only for defending muslims or is there something strange in his English which betrays his real identity?

  15. 3489
    infidel Says:

    Hey Ruck,
    If these pricks had brains made of gunpowder, they wouldn’t have enough to blow their fucking turbans off,lol

  16. 3488
    rucker Says:

    For all you non-chumpz a poem by Gwendolyn Brooks:

    We Real Cool

    We real cool. We
    Left school. We

    Lurk late. We
    Strike straight. We

    Sing sin. We
    Thin gin. We

    Jazz June. We
    Die soon.

  17. 3487
    piss on allah! Says:

    hai uze, idiotz. uze dnt no wht ur tkng. dat sht iz wrng! whtz a troll? u to stopd 2 chk ur fkts.

    ps. spellinz 4 chumpz!

  18. 3486
    rucker Says:

    anon - I’m going out a a limb here (not a very long one though)and say you are NOT a Christian nor have you heard any such chant at your school. You’re a muslim troll.

  19. 3485
    anon Says:

    have any of u stupid ppl stopd 2 chek all da sht dat ur sayin. if u new sht all u’d no islam does not condone violence of ANY kind unless it is absolutely neccessary. these ppl hu chop ppl’z hedz off in da name of islam r not muslims dey just portray a completely misguided picture. i am nt a muslim but even i understand dat da problem is not da pics but da fact dat itz showing da holy p. as a terrorists when he himself never hurt anyone in his life. and hu sed any ting about a holy war. dis iz da 1st i’v herd of it. n in regards 2 all muslims h8in jews n cristians itz a load of bull. most of my frens r muslim n i’m a cristian. in fact my school is full of wite ppl hu chant songs lyk “thro da jews down da well” n u point at muslims. get ur facts rite u idiots.

  20. 3484
    infidel Says:

    “So, Gary Glitter likes to have sex with six-year-old girls, doesn’t like having his picture in the papers, and is always insisting that everyone join his gang.

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think he’s the reincarnation of the Prophet Mohammed?”

  21. 3483
    yunus emre ozel Says:

    guzel olmamis, sadece kin var, sanat yok, bir bok yok…

  22. 3482
    rucker Says:

    On the fictional “shared culture” of islam and the west that muslims are pushing these days as part of their effort to stop us from examining what islam really is (with some information and insight on why Christianity was able to leave behind its murderous past, even if not their supersitions about virgin birth, etc.):

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/023422.php#more

  23. 3481
    infidel Says:

    “There is a ceasefire in Gaza, but the BBC has found evidence of militant groups preparing for a return to violence. One group, Islamic Jihad, is training female suicide bombers.

    Middle East correspondent Paul Wood went to meet a Palestinian woman who has volunteered.

    The young, veiled woman was sitting quiet and still as the room bustled around her.

    The black flag of Islamic Jihad was pinned on the wall behind her and two Kalashnikovs were carefully placed in camera shot. Her husband, an Islamic Jihad fighter himself, tied on her “martyr’s” headband.

    Umm Anas - not her real name - had just graduated from a programme to train female suicide bombers in Gaza.

    Our meeting was a highly-orchestrated propaganda event laid on by Islamic Jihad. It was almost theatre - and certainly Israel accuses the Palestinian leadership of manipulating young women like 18-year-old Umm Anas.

    Yet, although she nervously twisted her wedding ring, Umm Anas did not appear to be a cipher.

    She was articulate - more so than the men staging the event - and she knew her own mind.

    Secret ambition

    When she spoke of becoming a suicide bomber, Umm Anas’s voice was strong and steady: “This is a gift from God.

    “We were created to become martyrs for God,” she continued, her eyes burning behind the full face veil.

    I take each step carefully because I know I am going to sacrifice myself

    Umm Anas
    “All the Palestinian people were created to fight in God’s name. If we just throw stones at the Jews they get scared. Imagine what happens when body parts fly at them.”

    The bomb belt which she hopes will end her life - and kill many Israelis - rested on the table next to us.

    Her main motivation in becoming a suicide bomber appears to be religious rather than nationalistic - the fulfilment of a long-held ambition. Even getting married recently hadn’t changed her mind.

    “When my husband married me, he knew my way of thinking. He knew exactly who I am and based on this he decided to marry me. Marriage doesn’t give me a second’s doubt.”

    I asked if that would alter if she became pregnant.

    “I would wait until I delivered the baby,” she said. “I would give him to my parents and ask them to look after him… Then I would leave them and the baby would remain behind as a piece of me.”

    Her parents, brothers and sisters did not know.

    “Martyrs - male or female - have to work in secret. No one can know about it. We have to be careful not to give our parents any sign of what we are about to do.

    “Sometimes, maybe, they can tell and see on your face the signs of martyrdom. They are suspicious but they don’t know for certain.”

    Ready for death

    Umm Anas thinks she knows the manner of her death, but she doesn’t know the timing.

    She is waiting for the collapse of the Egyptian-brokered ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, the Islamic movement which rules Gaza.

    Would-be suicide bomber Umm Anas talks to the BBC
    Islamic Jihad accepted the ceasefire, but accuses Israel of readying for another large incursion into Gaza.
    Israel meanwhile accuses militant groups of using the pause to refit and rearm.

    “There is a clear Zionist decision and trend to end and break the lull,” said an Islamic Jihad spokesman last month.

    This, says the organisation, is why it has been running its secret training programme for female suicide bombers. They want to be ready.

    Trainees are being prepared to attack invading Israeli soldiers. But would Umm Anas be ready to walk into a restaurant full of civilians, too, and blow herself up?

    “Israeli soldiers, of course… are the easier target when they come here, but [I would kill] civilians too because both civilians and soldiers took our land.”

    But wouldn’t she have any difficulty killing people not holding a gun? Wouldn’t she feel pity for women and children?

    “It is not important because all of them have violated our land. Children are civilians, but they grow up to become soldiers… They are all brought up to hate us. Palestine is only for Palestinians. We must kick them all out in any way we can.”

    Propaganda of fear

    The use of Palestinian women as suicide bombers was once thought of as immodest - and therefore un-Islamic - but that changed, the militant groups say, because of shortage of male candidates and because women were better able to get close to their targets.

    If one nation violates another nation’s land, it is the obligation of everyone - men, women, and children - to fight back

    Marwan Abu Ras, Muslim Scholars Association
    That’s the official explanation, but female bombers also have much greater propaganda impact.

    Their participation in suicide attacks was made possible by religious rulings in Gaza.

    Chairman of the Muslim Scholars Association Marwan Abu Ras told the BBC there were many precedents in Islamic history for women joining military operations.

    “We do not encourage death,” he said. “Islam prohibits you from harming yourself, even to cause a small cut in your finger, but now we are fighting a war of resistance.

    “If one nation violates another nation’s land, it is the obligation of everyone - men, women, and children - to fight back.”

    Finally, I asked Umm Anas if she was ever able to put out of her mind what she was about to do.

    “I never stop thinking of this,” she said.

    “I take each step carefully because I know I am going to sacrifice myself. Martyrs must pray all the time. They must fast.

    “There are many duties to perform before we are ready to face God. I am trying not to make any mistakes so that I do not miss this opportunity.”

    If ever there was proof needed that these ragheaded lunatics should be shot on sight, then this is it!!!!!

  24. 3480
    rucker Says:

    This sounds about right (from Daniel Pipes):

    There is no Muslim state or society, no polity or people, who have developed on their own, without relying — as was done for many centuries — on the wealth to be extracted from local non-Muslims under Muslim rule, that is, by means of the Jizyah. Nowadays, Muslim states have two ways of getting wealth: from oil and gas, that is, from a mere accident of geology, or from the aid they manage to keep extracting from Infidels, though not ever from their rich fellows in the Umma. And Muslims in the welfare states of Western Europe have also managed to exploit to the hilt, and then some, the generous benefits set up by, and paid for by, Infidel taxpayers. Muslims in France, Great Britain and elsewhere have free education and health care at levels never attained in any Muslim state, and free or low-cost subsidized housing, and even family allowances. The transfer of wealth in the countries of Western Europe from Infidel taxpayers to Muslim recipients of such aid is staggering. Not as staggering, however, as the amounts spent on the transfer of wealth from Infidel oil-consuming nations to the Muslim oil-producers. Since 1973 alone, that amounts to about eleven trillion dollars.

    And what have the Arabs and Muslims done with it? Some skyscrapers and thousands of private palaces. Not a single factory or farm that is competitive with anything in the outside world. And economies still completely dependent on foreign wage-slaves.

    That’s the economic development made possible by Islam.

  25. 3479
    rucker Says:

    Women in islam, so honored, so freed by islam, so much happier than poor unveiled western sluts. And this joker does not even blink an eye at teh fact that the question is about wives AND WOMEN SLAVES!

    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/33597

  26. 3478
    piss on allah! Says:

    …The first rule of Fight Club…

  27. 3477
    rucker Says:

    Just think what they might do if they weren’t so tolerant of other religious. They might even kill people who believe differently - o, that’s right, they DO.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-11-05-islam-magazine_N.htm

  28. 3476
    infidel Says:

    “Muslim artist gets death threats

    Sarah Maple has attracted criticism from some Muslims
    A Muslim artist exhibiting her work at a west London gallery, has received death threats via email.

    Staff at SaLon gallery in Notting Hill said they had received violent emails about Ms Maple, 23, and her family.

    The glass front of the gallery has also been smashed with staff receiving abusive phone calls since the start of her exhibition on 16 October.

    Some sections of the Muslim community have criticised her in the past for her portrayal of her religion.

    One work showed a woman in a headscarf holding a pig.”

    The muslim nazis at work again!!, proving to the world their intolerance.
    muslimwoman, your example of churches in your city doesn’t really count, because turkey isn’t an islamic country in the true sense, it’s secular by LAW.
    You are a very lucky woman, you have a hell of a lot more freedom than your sisters in the middle east!!
    Some islamic countries would have you publicly whipped just for posting on a forum like this.

  29. 3475
    piss on allah! Says:

    All that anyone needs to realise is, that Religion is MAN MADE!!!

    There was organisms, then Dinosaurs, then cave-men, then us.
    Before Christianity and Islam and any others..there was paganism, Zoroastrianism and Hinduism (which dates back to 1,500 BCE).

    JUDAISM is the world’s oldest, a religion of just one people, ie; The Jews.
    Christianity began with the teachings of Jesus Christ around 30 C.E., and Islam started in 610 C.E. with the prophet Muhammad’s revelation. Which muslims will hate to believe because they think thier ’story’ is the best.

    All this religion thing was a fad. People believe Scientology is the true way, for crying out loud!

    ‘Muslim Woman’, your arguement is admirable, however, moot.
    This forum seems to escalate to muslims damning or vainly trying to justify a barbaric and archaic religion against (for the moment) maybe 3 or 4 like minded, strong thinkers that refuse to be blinded by blanket propaganda that Islam is essentially a ‘good’ religion.

  30. 3474
    Muslim woman Says:

    I want to answer “infidel”’s previous question. I don’t know how many churchs there are in ?ran, Saudi or Afghanistan but I can say that there are 16 churchs in my city (8 of which are in the center) today. In fact, the second of the seven churchs which have been mentioned in the Bible is in my city center. Also the first and the third ones are in the towns of my city. In history, 85 % of the population has been formed from Europians, Jews and Armenians. Because of this, the city has been named as “infidel xxxxx”. Later this nickname was sticked to the city permanently.Today either having a lot of churchs or having citizens who live away from radical Muslim traditions cause this beautiful city still to be named as “infidel xxxxx” although it’s not infidel…

    Besides I want to talk about a book which was written in 1994 by a Turkish man (lawyer, journalist and television announcer) being named as “The Quran, islam, Ataturk and the miracle of the number 19″. He had been an atheist before but later after analyzing the Quran he began to believe it. But by interpreting it completely according to his own mind! He says that: —Sorry for the translation but this is a Turkish book and I will try to translate myself—
    “In the Quran, God says that the heaven is full of virgins, green fields, cold water etc. God had to describe the heaven so because the Arabian society were like 3 years old children in terms of ignorance then. For ex,if you have a 3 years old child and he doesn’t want to eat his meal, how do you convince him to eat? He doesn’t understand anything if you say,(Eat your meal so that the protein in it will develop your cells and the calcium will make your bones stronger). Instead of this, you’ll have to say (eat your meal so that I’ll take you to the amusement park otherwise I may punish you). But when the child becomes 20, if you say the same things, you become ridiculous. God had to talk according to the ignorant Arabian society so that they could understand. Think about the hot (50 degrees) Arabian climate. Arabic men swelter. They can hardly find water to drink. They have already soft spots for women (especially for virgins). Because of this, God talked in a language which they could understand.If the Quran had comed to Finland instead of Arabia, God would describe the hell so for ex: “There are huge icebergs. People will be put upon these icebergs naked and also poured cold water on them”.

    And another point: God says that rivers are flowing under the heaven. Notice the word “under the heaven”. And notice that rivers are not flowing “inside the heaven but “under the heaven”! Because the spirit (soul) is an energy. It rises (goes up) by death as its frequency increases. And in the level of such spirits, a zone which glitters in sunshine just like “a river”!!! forms. Bad sences can’t access to the spirits of this level. There begins a period away from the bad effects. This is “the river”! The upper of this “river” is full of only good sences. And this is “the heaven”!..”

    Also according to my own opinion, heaven must be a symbolic place in which there are no virgins, no wine –how can there be wine if wine is forbidden in this world!—, no rivers, no cold water etc. Maybe we won’t have even bodies but only souls. So all these must be only symbols! (Note that they have been written 1400 years ago).
    Of course I believe in the Quran but as this author and also Prf. Dr. Yasar Nuri Ozturk says, the Quran’s Turkish translation needs reinterpreting.
    I glanced at a Turkish forum a few days ago.A woman asks: “Are there men for us there, too?” The answer is: “No, you’ll only have your husband. “What will be if he goes to the hell, I go to the heaven?” “Then you’ll given another husband.” Another question: “I can’t share my husband with 72 virgins, I’m jealous.”. The answer is: “Don’t worry, you’ll look more beautiful than them, so your husband doesn’t look at them”!
    Like a joke! We probably need to be clarified as soon as possible…

  31. 3473
    infidel Says:

    You are quite right as usual ruck!!

  32. 3472
    rucker Says:

    infidel - whatever it is, the USA will probably help more than any other nation and will still be vilified as the great satan. That’s the general pattern. Ever look into who gives more in aid to islamic countries, the USA or other islamic countries? Eye-opening. Ever wonder why the muslim countries full of so-called (because there was never a country call palestine)palestinian refugees will not let them become citizens? Could it be because the situation with Israel is not about land but about the islamic mandate to kill all the Jooos?

  33. 3471
    infidel Says:

    “At least 160 people have been killed after an earthquake of 6.4 magnitude hit Balochistan province in south-western Pakistan, officials say.

    Officials in Balochistan say they expect the toll to rise.”

    Could this be allah punishing the pakis for allowing sanctuary to terrorists and murderers???

  34. 3470
    rucker Says:

    http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/misc/209.pdf

    http://www.investigativeproject.org/article/797

    No comment.

  35. 3469
    infidel Says:

    “y dont we all just respect each other’s religions and live with it?”

    Because islam does NOT respect other religions, the west has lots of mosques, but how many christian churches do you see in iran, saudi, afghanistan, etc,etc.

    Because muslims are regularly murdering christians all over the world

  36. 3468
    Muslim woman Says:

    Minavar - I agree with you. If we respected eachother’s religions, there would already be no problem.
    rucker - May you recover soon (as you’ve catched cold)
    And… Who says there are nobody blaming these terrorists, telling them that they are misinterpreting the Quran’s and also Prophet Mohammed’s (PBUH) words? Of course there are people trying. But it’s very difficult to show them the facts and make them change their minds or it’s too late now as their brains have been already washed and poisoned. Please check these:
    http://www.yasarnuriozturk.com/kimdir_english.html
    http://www.yasarnuriozturk.com/dunyabasini_eng.html

  37. 3467
    rucker Says:

    And to fuck you: You seem to have run out of ideas there, buddy. Could that be because religion discourages thinking?

  38. 3466
    rucker Says:

    Well Minavar, just a reminder:

    To quote Ibn Warraq:
    A culture that gave the world the novel; the music of Mozart, Beethoven, and Schubert; and the paintings of Michelangelo, da Vinci, and Rembrandt does not need lessons from societies whose idea of heaven, peopled with female virgins, resembles a cosmic brothel. Nor does the West need lectures on the superior virtue of societies in which women are kept in subjection under sharia, endure genital mutilation, are stoned to death for alleged adultery, and are married off against their will at the age of nine; societies that deny the rights of supposedly lower castes; societies that execute homosexuals and apostates. The West has no use for sanctimonious homilies from societies that cannot provide clean drinking water or sewage systems, that make no provisions for the handicapped, and that leave 40 to 50 percent of their citizens illiterate.

  39. 3465
    fuck you Says:

    Fuck you mother fucka

  40. 3464
    Minavar Says:

    “The West is BETTER than the islamic world. It has given the world far more than islam can ever give the world.”

    um…for your info…universities were frst created by MUSLIMS in Spain. Muslims also gave alot to modern medicine, and Ibn-Sina’s book on the human anatomy was still being used in universities last time i checked.

    everyone else….seriously, it’s like a bloody ‘religious’ childish fight. y dont we all just respect each other’s religions and live with it?

  41. 3463
    rucker Says:

    Hi Muslim Woman - Again I am short on time right now, but you said:

    “Maybe someday I have to show you the parts in the Quran which blesses Jesus, Musa and the other prophets so that you can believe that the terrorism can’t have taken root from the Quran…”

    I know those parts too. But as for saying that terrorism can’t have taken root from the Quran, then why do ALL the Muslim terrorists quote from it and why are there no Muslims telling THEM they are misinterpreting? Always it is the people who are reporting Muslim terrorism who are blamed for associating terrorism with Islam, but it is actually the murderers who are quoting Islam to justify their acts - and their justifications seem well founded in Islam. A Muslim like yourself has to ignore all the passages that tell Muslims to strike terror in non-believers and strike them on their necks (behead).

    Instead, what we see is Muslims outraged by CARTOONS, rioting and killing and threatening to kill over DRAWINGS but we never hear of demonstrations against terrorism. In fact, what we see is Muslims rejoicing over terrorist acts. Christians have had equally insulting works created about them, and they don’t riot or kill or burn things.

    You have a very bad image problem, and until the millions of Muslims who claim they reject terrorism take to the streets to protest it, the rest of us will continue to mistrust Muslims -and rightly so.

    You also said “I only want to say, christians justified these verses by publishing these Danish caricatures and the video of Geert Wilders (Fitna).” You have that kind of backwards, right? The verses came before the cartoons and Fitna by about 1400 years. And we have a right to report on what Muslims who wish to destroy us are doing. Have you seen Fitna? Are the Muslims in there not using islam to justify their acts? So how is it our wrong to report that? Also, one thing that Muslims and some believers in other faiths forget is that most of us in the west value free speech more than religion. And that is a good thing. And most of the people posting criticisms of Islam here are atheists, not Christians or Jews.

    I have a cold right now, so I am not writing as clearly as I would like. But I look forward to hearing from you again.

  42. 3462
    Muslim woman Says:

    rucker - I’m glad now to see that at least someone’s begun to understand what I’m saying. Thanks… And I’m also saying that I’m not the only Muslim in the world who has transcended the religion to that degree. Believe me there are millions of such people here.
    –If you think Turkey has a population of 70 millions, (not all of them of course but still) there must be really millions of people who are living according to the principles of moderate islam.–
    First of all, you can be sure that they are certainly against to all types of terrorism. They have already been hurt deeply because of the PKK terror in the southeast of Turkey, how can they support terrorism?
    Besides these people are living just like you.They are taking alcohol, dancing, flirting.. Their women are being dressed as yours, studying, attending university, taking up a profession, working, earning money, travelling etc.
    Yes, you’re right to say “thanks to Ataturk”, that’s true of course…
    The forces of islam are on the rise here nowadays but the forces of the “real islam” is not something to be frightened.I mean this terrorism can’t be the result of our prophet, the holly Muhammed or the Quran. It must be the result of the misinterpretion of Quran’s and also Muhammed’s words by some malicious men. In fact neither the Quran nor the holly Muhammed provokes the terrorism. For ex also polygamy is the result of the misinterpretation of Muhammed’s marriages. Some kind of men always interpretes something as they suit their purposes. Arabic men already had 10-15 women (the total number of wives and concubines), islamic rules limited this and reduced the number down to max.4. And besides think of the war years. Women had loosed their husbands and stayed alone without money. The ethic level have been already squalid before islam. What would happen to these women then? The rule of “having max. 4 wives” was made to protect the women in fact, as one man could marry 4 women so that no women would stay alone, otherwise no doubt prostitution would be widespread. But this doesn’t mean “everybody must have 4 wives”. This is reducing the number from 10-15 to 4 in fact. Please notice this. But what happened later? Some malicious men used this, too. Even today some rich men tries to have 4 women by claiming that the Quran demands this! Ridiculous of course! Maybe islamic countries are really paradises for these kind of men. As long as we misinterpret everything “purposely”, islam will naturally have a bad reputation… (By the way, Turkish laws certainly forbit polygamy)
    In brief I’m saying: Christians, Jews and we have the same God. There’s not “my God, your God”. There’s only one God to worship. Religions are only means of worship. What does it matter if I go to the mosque and you go to the church or the synagogue? They are all God’s houses. What does it matter if I read the Quran and you read the Bible or the Torah? They are all God’s books. What does it matter if we believe in the holly Muhammed, you believe in Jesus or Musa? They are all God’s holly prophets. Maybe someday I have to show you the parts in the Quran which blesses Jesus, Musa and the other prophets so that you can believe that the terrorism can’t have taken root from the Quran…

  43. 3461
    rucker Says:

    Muslim woman -you deserve more of an answer than I have time for right now, but I will say I wish all muslims would transcend their religion to at least the degree you seem to have done. I think that might be because you’re Turkish and thanks to Ataturk, the influence of islam in your life was attenuated. But beware, the forces of islam that will put you in our place again are on the rise in Turkey, as you no doubt know.

  44. 3460
    emrah_cengiz Says:

    lan orosbu çocuklar? bac?s?n? siktiklerim ne lan bu!!! yak???rm? lan bu insanl?ga gerisini siz düsünün ulan hepinizin yaptiklar? cezasiz kalm?yacak ororsbunun evlatlar????????!!!! hee bide sunu unuttum siz dionuzki isa allah?n o?lu ha siktir lan!danalar at?nda küçük at?n!! :D

  45. 3459
    infidel Says:

    “rucker -and other friends- I’m not here for defending the things written ( or challenged to be written) in the Quran”

    Thats because you CAN’T defend those things muslim woman!!

    You say terrorists are not “REAL” muslims and are in a minority.
    If that’s true, why aren’t muslim countries tracking down terrorist murderers and punishing them??, Why aren’t muslim clerics issueing FATWAS against terrorism???.

    If you are sincere muslim woman, then let’s see you condemn the taleban, hezbollah, hamas, the muslim brotherhood, al queda, right here on this forum!!!!!!

  46. 3458
    Muslim woman Says:

    rucker -and other friends- I’m not here for defending the things written ( or challenged to be written) in the Quran. I can even write here some other verses then:
    * Unless you get their religion, neither Jews nor Christians are pleased with you… (Bakara)
    * Don’t make friends with Jews and Christians. They are friends of each other. Who makes friends with (even) one of them is accepted as to be merged in them. (Maide)

    I only want to say, christians justified these verses by publishing these Danish caricatures and the video of Geert Wilders (Fitna). Although we never disregarded the Bible and Jesus as Jesus is an especially holly prophet for us who will come to end the life on the judgement day, who had special abilities like vitalizing dead people,

    –and all these are written in Quran, too.. Why don’t you say these as you’re only talking about death, pigs etc..Why don’t you say that the Quran accepts and respects all the prophets and jewishness and also christianity. I think you have to state these, too.—

    we were shocked about these mockeries. Is it not natural? Why don’t you think we can be hurt about such things? Today I’ve loosed all my hope about “friends” with non-muslims already. It’s probably over. What a pity!..

    Besides female virginity is related with traditions here not with islam in fact. A woman can choose to save herself for her husband and that musn’t be something to be surprised so much. This is a respectable choice only. And if she doesn’t choose this, believe me noone lapidates her here…. By the way, girls are not being forced to be married in early ages. For ex, I’ve married when I was 27 after I graduated from university with my own desire of course… One more thing: We’re not willing to kill all the Jews! At least I’m not! I cannot even to watch the films named “Schindler’s List” or “The Last Train” without tears because of the despair I feel for Jews but you tell about killing Jews! In fact the problem is that you identify all the Muslims. But people are different as character and “every sheep is hanged by its own leg”. (Turkish proverb)…

    I mean all the Muslims are not living as you think they do. Have you ever seen especially the western Turkey? Istanbul, Ankara, Izm?r? And have you ever been entertained with Turkish hospitality? Maybe you have to. So you can change your negative thoughts about Muslims (and also Turks) perhaps. In fact we don’t hate you but you hate us.. When I look at the christian comments, I can only see hatred. Bitter…

  47. 3457
    rucker Says:

    Muslim woman - But so much of what you are saying is not true in the real world. Do you think we can’t read the newspaper, the koran, the hadith? So, as to your love of Christians and Jews, please explain how you can love them when islam teaches that Christians and Jews are the children of pigs and apes and that the day of judgment cannot come until muslims have killed all the Jews - which the rocks and trees will help with by telling muslims that Jews are hiding behind them. Just explain that one point please, can you?

  48. 3456
    Muslim woman Says:

    I’m proud of being a Turkish and Muslim woman. You Jews and Christians are wrong at your thoughts. We don’t hate christians and Jews, on the contrary we love them. Every Muslim is not the same. There are good people and bad people everywhere. Hitler was a christian, wasn’t he? But we don’t think all the christians are like Hitler! You don’t have to think all of us as Usame bin Ladin. We are not killers!
    We love you in fact but why are you insisting on mocking at our religious assets?
    I read both Quran and Bible. I respect all the holly prophets and books. I love Jews and christians as well as muslims. (And the real islam demands this)… Can’t you really do the same? You don’t loose anything if you do.
    Let’s try to respect to each other, that’s all…
    Besides all the muslim women are not wearing black chador or turban… For ex, the great leader Ataturk’s Turkey is full of modern women and Turkey is not directed with the islamic law. We are Muslims but not monsters. Please notice these and try to understand us (at least once)…

  49. 3455
    rucker Says:

    Well, Marc, the muslims are on your side with at least one of the groups you want to eliminate:

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/10/23/michael-coren-the-jihad-on-egypt-s-christians.aspx

  50. 3454
    MarcDLS Says:

    To hell with Mecca. Jerusalem is at the core of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Mecca is basically the Muslim equivalent of the Vatican. They are holy cities but not THE holy city. It’s much easier to nuke one city than two or three anyway.

  51. 3453
    infidel Says:

    Don’t forget marc that mecca would need nuking as well!!!

  52. 3452
    MarcDLS Says:

    It’d be real nice if someone would surround Jerusalem with, say, 5 nukes in a pentacle-like geometric lay-out and blast the thing into non-existence. I think it’d go a long way to solving ALOT of problems. Best case scenario is that with their Holy City destroyed all of these nuts loose faith in their paper gods. After all, no Holy City, no final prophecies can be fulfilled, and no end-time fervor and fear.

  53. 3451
    Jayman Says:

    I love it when clowns like “piss on cross” think that mocking the dumb christians will make him feel better.

    Note to Muslims:
    YOU’RE ALL STUPID MORONS, JUST MORE VIOLENT THAN THE STUPID CHRISTIANS AND RETARDED JEWS

    If only they would all die together in an AIDS fire.

  54. 3450
    infidel Says:

    To “piss on cross”

    You are obviously an expert on shit, as a raghead, you’ve lived in it all your life, your countries are open toilets, and you all have shit for brains!!.

  55. 3449
    piss on cross Says:

    i wander, if jesus would die in shit, what would christians (shittians) wear around the neck :d :d :d and the churches would be full of what : D :D :D

  56. 3448
    rucker Says:

    To quote Ibn Warraq:

    A culture that gave the world the novel; the music of Mozart, Beethoven, and Schubert; and the paintings of Michelangelo, da Vinci, and Rembrandt does not need lessons from societies whose idea of heaven, peopled with female virgins, resembles a cosmic brothel. Nor does the West need lectures on the superior virtue of societies in which women are kept in subjection under sharia, endure genital mutilation, are stoned to death for alleged adultery, and are married off against their will at the age of nine; societies that deny the rights of supposedly lower castes; societies that execute homosexuals and apostates. The West has no use for sanctimonious homilies from societies that cannot provide clean drinking water or sewage systems, that make no provisions for the handicapped, and that leave 40 to 50 percent of their citizens illiterate.

  57. 3447
    rucker Says:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who%e2%80%99s-sleeping-more-deeply-%e2%80%94-europe-or-america/

  58. 3446
    piss on allah! Says:

    How do you get an Arab woman pregnant?
    Cum all over her feet and let the flies do the rest!

  59. 3445
    rucker Says:

    Hugh Fitzgerald on CAIR, the primary mouthpiece of jihad in America. For those unfamiliar with them, CAIR stands for Council on American islamic Relations. Note the hubris of equating islam with a sovereign nation.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023127.php#more

  60. 3444
    rucker Says:

    “Islam is the name of a way of life which the Creator wants us to follow. We avoid the word religion because in many non-Islamic societies, there is a separation of “religion and state.” This separation is not recognized at all in Islam: the Creator is very much concerned with all that we do, including the political, social, economic, and other aspects of our society. Hence, Islam is a complete way of life.”

    That’s from the Muslim Student group at the University of Southern California. Read the whole depressing and alarming thing.

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/notislam/misconceptions.html

    This is what islam in America means. These are college-educated muslims. It is posted on the University’s website. And this is what they think of our American liberties. This is no time to be debating whether or not god is real. This is the time to begin to resist the stealth jihad against America specifically and Western Civilization in general that many, many muslims are involved in. The West is BETTER than the islamic world. It has given the world far more than islam can ever give the world. The West is worth defending. Western Civilization is the best that humanity has produced as a way of life. We need to stand up and make sure it survives.

  61. 3443
    zasta Says:

    Sieht doch gut aus, besonders der 1. hat irgendwie was von meinem Nachbarn(oder der welcher über mir oder unter mir wohnt?), wenn ich nur wüsste was der immer labbert aber wenn der so ein Bild im Kopf hat kann seine Meinung ja so schlimm nicht sein.

    $

  62. 3442
    piss on allah! Says:

    ….uh, yeah. You know, I’ve never thought of it that way!

  63. 3441
    MURAT BOZ Says:

    SEREFSIUZ KAHHHHPEEEEE COCUKLLARRIIIIIIIIII PICCCCC KURULARIIIIII LAN AGZINIZA SICTIKLARIM ONUN BUNUNNNN PICCCCC EVLATTLLLLAAARRII LANNNNNNN AGZINIZA SICARIMMMM LANNNNN ALLLLLAAAAAHHHH BELANIZI VERSINNNNNNN HUUUUUUZZZUUURRRRRRRR IIIIIISSSSSSSLLLLLLAAAMMMMM DADIRRRRRRRRRRR

  64. 3440
    piss on allah! Says:

    Mate, they don’t get it… This is the ‘freedom’ they want to abolish!

    LISTEN UP MONKEYS!!! I DON’T WANT TO JOIN YOUR FUCKED UP ‘RELIGION/CULT’ I WANT TO LIVE MY WAY!

    FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR BOOK OF WAR AND FUCK YOUR PEDOPHILE PIG-FUCKING PROPHET!

  65. 3439
    infidel Says:

    “PLEASE READ LAST AND THE RIGHT WAYS BOOK KORAN EVEN ONE TIME.”

    I HAVE read the koran sariyunus, and i STILL think its a load of bullshit!!!

  66. 3438
    Sari Yunus Says:

    PLEASE READ 10.PART(SURAH) 82,83,84…..92TH VERSES(ÂYET)
    FOR JESUS’S DESIRE!!!

    IF YOU CANT FIND,PLEASE READ I AM WRITING DOWN :

    082 And Allah will vindicate the Truth by His words, however much the guilty be averse.

    083 But none trusted Moses, save some scions of his people, (and they were) in fear of Pharaoh and their chiefs, that he would persecute them. Lo! Pharaoh was verily a tyrant in the land, and lo! he verily was of the wanton.

    084 And Moses said: O my people! If ye have believed in Allah then put trust in Him, if ye have indeed surrendered (unto Him)!

    085 They said: In Allah we put trust. Our Lord! Oh, make us not a lure for the wrongdoing folk;

    086 And, of Thy mercy, save us from the folk that disbelieve.

    087 And We inspired Moses and his brother, (saying): Appoint houses for your people in Egypt and make your houses oratories, and establish worship. And give good news to the believers.

    088 And Moses said: Our Lord! Lo! Thou hast given Pharaoh and his chiefs splendour and riches in the life of the world, Our Lord! that they may lead men astray from Thy way. Our Lord! Destroy their riches and harden their hearts so that they believe not till they see the painful doom.

    089 He said: Your prayer is heard. Do ye twain keep to the straight path, and follow not the road of those who have no knowledge.

    090 And We brought the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh with his hosts pursued them in rebellion and transgression, till, when the (fate of) drowning overtook him, he exclaimed: I believe that there is no God save Him in Whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am of those who surrender (unto Him).

    091 What! Now! When hitherto thou hast rebelled and been of the wrong-doers ?

    092 But this day We save thee in thy body that thou mayst be a portent for those after thee. Lo! most of mankind are heedless of Our portents.

    PLEASE BELIVE ALLAH.PLEASE I AM NOT DESIRING FOR MYSELF.THIS IS JUST FOR YOURSELVES.AND NEVER FORGET IT; JESUS IS CRYING REASON OF YOU,BECAUSE YOU SWERVED FROM THE RIGHT SIDE!!!!!
    ALLAH MAY HELP YOU ALL.inshaAllah…

    PLEASE READ LAST AND THE RIGHT WAYS BOOK KORAN EVEN ONE TIME.
    P L E A S E for JESUS PROPHET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  67. 3437
    rucker Says:

    My word POA - do you know what you have done by inking to those pictures? I have already heard reports that the Southern Baptist Convention has issued a call for your death. The Methodist are sharpening their knives, and the Lutherans have stoned 6 women to punish you! With Christians murdering people every day, I admire your courage!

    Anybody else here ever watch Pat Condell over on YouTube? Not rigorous refutations of religious superstition, but he uses another great weapon: Laughter and Mockery. Check him out.

  68. 3436
    piss on allah! Says:

    ..and another one for good measure..

    http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/c1/Mohommadfuckingpig.jpg

  69. 3435
    piss on allah! Says:

    Funny you should say that, infidel… I wrote something along the EXACT same lines on here yesterday, published it…but without my details…so it erased it. Couldn’t be bothered doing it again… so here’s something for shits and giggles (and to piss off the camel jockeys)..

    http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/55/Jesus-does-Muhammad.jpg

  70. 3434
    infidel Says:

    Ottoman you fool, EVERYBODYS going to die sooner or later, but you ragheads are so scared of death that your mohammed invented that wonderful paradise to fool all you idiots!!.
    There IS NO old man allah in the sky!!!
    There IS NO paradise with lots of virgins
    There IS NO satan
    It’s ALL in your imagination.

  71. 3433
    Ottoman Says:

    Im a Muslim, you will see soon what will be.. God is can seening that.. and God will ask you when will you die… i dont say more about that.. you will die soon or later but i swear you will die! than what will you answer….

  72. 3432
    infidel Says:

    Q. How do you know when a muslim boy becomes a man??

    A. When the diaper goes from his ass to his head

  73. 3431
    infidel Says:

    YEAH RIGHT ruck, lol

  74. 3430
    rucker Says:

    Because we all know that women are respected in islam and the headscarf elevates them.

    http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13378&size=A

  75. 3429
    infidel Says:

    right on ruck!!, problem is, the dickheads who are in denial are in positions of power, by the time they wise up it could be too late!!

  76. 3428
    rucker Says:

    Hi infidel - I agree that reason, etc., won’t affect the murderers and savages who follow the dictates of islam. I meant in order to convince others who are in denial about the threat of islam in the modern world and who will resist listening if they think the speaker is just calling names. But, I truly understand the desire to do so!

    I’ve read the Choudary remarks myself and am as appalled as you. And here’s a little something from Aytollah Khomeini, the leader of the islamic “revolution” in Iran, a “man” widely admired in the islamic world.

    “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]…. Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

    How’s that for “straight from the camel’s mouth”? Same guy who has advised muslim men on how to have sex with one year old infants.

  77. 3427
    infidel Says:

    You speak words of wisdom Ruck, lol, unfortunately, reason, enlightenment, and humanity are no defence against murderous savages, read the comments of one of the leading muslim shitheads in the UK.

    “On the acceptability of killing non-Muslims
    In a BBC interview Choudary was asked why he would not say with Omar Bakri Mohammed, “I condemn the killing of innocent people.” Choudary replied,

    At the end of the day, when we say “innocent people” we mean “Muslims”. As far as non-Muslims are concerned, they have not accepted Islam. As far as we are concerned, that is a crime against God.[36]”
    “Conversion of the UK to an Islamic State
    Speaking a conference on September 11th, 2008 in London, Choudary, referring to the high birth rate of Muslims, stated that “It may be by pure conversion that Britain will become an Islamic state. We may never need to conquer it from the outside.”. He also stated that “We do not integrate into Christianity. We will ensure that one day you will integrate into the Sharia Islamic law.”. [38]

    It is of note that these statements were not reported by the BBC.”

    So you see Ruck, the only answer to these fanatics is Mr 7.62mm, or Mr 5.56mm, lol.
    It’s only a matter of time!!!

  78. 3426
    rucker Says:

    A good article on one of those un-islamic barbarities that are so widespread in islamic countries. And one of the commentors reminded me of something I had forgotten: Female Genital Mutilation was condoned by mohammed himself when he advised not to “take too much”. Gruesome man, that one.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/does-islam-justify-honor-killings/

  79. 3425
    rucker Says:

    Speaking of books and islam, this just in:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3086474/Iran-launches-book-mocking-Holocaust-victims.html

    Gotta love those wacky muslims - they do so much of the work for those of us who are concerned about the threat they pose to the world.

  80. 3424
    rucker Says:

    No, infidel, that’s not all they can do or will do. Here’s an example of what they can and will do:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022877.php#comments

    And that is a book that is trying portray mohammed’s rape of Aisha at age 9 in a good light! (O, and the novelist, to make the story more palatable to people who consider child molestation abhorrent, makes Aisha 11 years old, as if that is old enough for sex.) So why exactly are muslims willing to kill, yet again, over a book when it is pro-mo? Could it be that they know how disgusting mo is as a standard of conduct? That seems almost too much to hope for.

    And they have far worse up their sleeves. But please don’t sink to their name calling level. Remember, western culture is superior to muslim culture in all ways and it is worth defending using its strong suits: Reason, Humanism, Enlightenment values, the rule of HUMANE law, etc. Laughter and reason are better weapons than name calling. Though I do understand how their arrogance grates on one. Still, you have noticed I assume how they never have any reasoned response to any of the criticism they so richly deserve.

    Speaking of arrogance, I saw a woman in the tent thing today, and I realized again how insulting that garb is. It not only screams “I am superior to you and refuse to become part of your society” as well as the obvious oppression of women in islamic “society”, it also insults the women of my family and no doubt yours. I think of my grandmother, for example, who muslims would consider immodest, a slut. My grandmother! Your mother! Your sisters! All sluts. That is what the tent says. A woman from India in a sari, or a Japanese woman in a kimono, I just find it charming. The tent, I find insulting and one day it will have to be banned.

  81. 3423
    infidel Says:

    hey ben, that the best you can do???,
    BTW, i’m not a christian you sad prick!!

  82. 3422
    Ben ve Ben Says:

    And FUCK YOU TOO!!!! christian, fuck you with a huge pig cock!!

  83. 3421
    infidel Says:

    And FUCK YOU TOO!!!! musliman, fuck you with a huge pig cock!!

  84. 3420
    MUSLIMAN Says:

    jebo vam enver hoda mame vase
    i dont now why you lafing to muslimans
    ps: fuck you all

    adolf hitlar hahahaha jebem vas usta sve hihihi napusi te se svi hehe ahahaa

  85. 3419
    infidel Says:

    YOU, hakan are just a dribbling FUCKING IDIOT!!!!
    what do you think you gained by posting all that shit???

  86. 3418
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