Winston Blackmore, one of two men charged yesterday with polygamy, says he is the victim of religious persecution by a government with an eye on the provincial election in May.
“This is not about polygamy,” he told reporters at the Mormon Hills elementary school outside Creston, B.C.
“Tens of thousands of polygamists, among many different cultures, are hiding in plain sight all across Canada. They are known by their neighbours, police, legislators and the media just as we are,” he said. However those polygamists are accepted as active, valued members of the communities in which they live, he said.
“But they are not fundamentalist Mormons,” Mr. Blackmore added. “To us, this is about religious persecution. And persecution has always been about politics. Whatever else is involved in this, it is still all about politics.”
Winston Blackmore during Thursday’s press conference in the community of Bountiful near Creston, B.C.
A former bishop of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Mr. Blackmore said Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees every person the right to their religion. “I guess now every person except those of us who are fundamentalists believing in practising Mormonism,” he also said.
Mr. Blackmore added that he was not surprised he was arrested in the months leading up to B.C. election. The government has been aware of the polygamous community for at least 19 years, he said. Three attorneys general, many special prosecutors and millions of dollars have been involved in a process that led to the conclusion that “fundamentalist Morons wants to practice the fundamentals of their faith,” he said.
“I am what I am and we are what we are. We are descended from a long line of Mormon believing people,” Mr. Blackmore said.
“My family did not make up our faith, nor we did we establish the fundamental teachings of Mormonism,” Mr. Blackmore also said.
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Ok, whos typo was that? I got the biggest kick out of it.
Anyway, where does any goverment get off telling people they can’t have more than one spouse? Oh yea, legislators that are writing laws straight of their bibles. Like here in the US. Frankly, I think a man would have to be a moron to want more than one wife, as one is handful enough. But, that is no one elses business except the people directly involved.
Two wives has always seemed good to me. One on each end of the moral spectrum. Never have to choose between naughty and nice since you’ll have them both!
“My family did not make up our faith, nor we did we establish the fundamental teachings of Mormonism,” Mr. Blackmore also said.
Yes, you did, Mr. Blackmore. I AM a Mormon, and we have not practiced polygamy for over 118 years. You guys LEFT the church, and decided to make up your own rules as you went along, ignoring the rules of the LAND which we hold to, as law-abiding citizens. (Check your articles of faith.)
You folks, IMHO, ARE truly Morons, and you deserve everything you get. I think it’s criminal to teach your children there were no dinosaurs and that the internet is evil, and education is bad for girls, because you want them to grow up as slaves for you creepy men. The laws of nature end up making more boys, but since your old men want more than one wife, you end up with a surplus of men, (Can’t you even count? Don’t you think if God approved of polygamy, he’d have women bear five times more girls?) and you end up tossing these poor little teenage boys out of your folds for no good reason-and what happens to them, after a childhood full of indoctrination? You turn them loose in a society in which they have never learned to live. SHAME ON YOU!!!
I look forward to the second coming of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to set you right.
I’m sick to death of people thinking MY religion has anything at all to do with you numbskulls.
At the time Joseph Smith was told to practice polygamy, God knew it was for a short time, to get everyone safely across the plains, and to start planting and harvesting in the west. Many anthropologists speculate that had the early pioneers NOT practiced polygamy when they first entered the Salt Lake Valley, they would not have survived the first five years. Once they were established, and all the widows and orphans settled and cared for, the practice was stopped.
Real Mormons have the highest rates of higher education anywhere except Hasidic Jews. We value families. One father, one mother, and as many children as you can afford and emotionally support. (Usually three or four, tops, though there are exceptions and super-moms, whom I applaud.) We are loving and kind to our neighbors, and strive to live as Jesus Christ taught in all our deeds and actions.
If any real members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints try to have more than one wife now, they are excommunicated faster than someone who says they are gay and plan to live a gay lifestyle. (We love gay people, we just can’t condone their lifestyle anymore than Jesus could when He was on the earth.)
You people who left the church, left. You have no ties with us. Please stop trying to pretend you are poor, persecuted, Mormons. You’re not! You’re all crazy people! Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. It’s the only way you can ever be saved from your sinful lives.
I would point out that the “Morons” left the church because they say your flavor of Mormonism as changing to suit the times and not in line with the original foundation of Mormonism…just an observation…
All religious shame and guilt is hypocrisy.
I enjoyed reading Janine’s article in response to the charge of religious persecution, but I think she should remember that the LDS church gospel has not, in fact, renounced polygamy at all. It is a very tenet of the Mormon faith. Just because it is against the law of the land does not mean Mormons (LDS) don’t believe in it, nor does it mean they will never practice it again. The Mormons, much like the Catholics do not see women as equals as regarding the roles the sexes take, and that is true in the polygamous sects as well. Isn’t that why religion was ‘founded’ in the first place, so that men could have a superior role while women had the natural role of mothering a world? So, Janine until your church renounces polygamy and does not require it to ascend to the Celestial Kingdom, it is indeed part and parcel of that which you accept.
Polygamy is totally legal in Canada.
Saskatchewan, under Section 51 of their family act…says persons may have more than one (unlimited) number of same time spouses. Recent court cases have upheld this law.
The argument is over with this historic court decision in 2009. The Canadian AG didn’t even bother to appear to defend the Polygamy laws and Criminal Code ..I heard.
I love how people get to leave logic out of argument where faith is concerned.
Janine: “I look forward to the second coming of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to set you right.
I’m sick to death of people thinking MY religion has anything at all to do with you numbskulls.”
Numbskull: One who believes Joseph Smith the fraudster didn’t just make up a religion so he could do as he pleased.
These reprehensable scum-bags in Creston are just carrying on the torch from old Joe Smith. The moderates are probably just angry that they didn’t.
Golden plates? Magic underwear? All religions are crazy, Mor(m)on is certifiably bat-shit.
Mormon? Seek help. Psytriatric council may be a good substitute for your particular delusion. Please do not breed until you do though, at present you fail to meet the minimum Intelligence standards
This is not a “faith matter. Canada has already legalized Polygamy in their Saskatchewan province. Google Saskatchewan Polygamy. It’s over.. its legal.
after the fact? charges should still apply Hernandez? Even pw know the fact.
Actually, no man or woman if sane in mind and body, would ever want to share their partner with other people.
It is just a matter of psychiatry, everybody is born with inborn instincts and aquired reflexes, that drive any person to choose a perfect partner for life amongst various pretendents in the community they are born and living.
This depends on the basic natural mechanisms of natural selection and evlution. Natural evolution is driven by natural selection.
Humans might be born in couples of opposite sex twins. This means that our brain is programmed by nature to live in couples.
The Father + Mother = Son and Doughter is a human formula of existence. Not just reproductional mechnaism.
There are aniimals of course that are born more than two at the same time, but they are animals.
Humans have a very evoluted brian, and everything physical in human life also is connected to the human mind.
So if people are supposed to live in couples and have twin children by nature, their brians are also programmed to live in that way.
If you see someone behaving completely different form th enatural pattern, it is obvious thta their brains are quite in an unnatural – uncoscious state of mind.
RATIO THINK IN LOGIC MIND
LOGIC MIND IN RATIO BODY
LOGIC SHOWS YOU THE RATIONALITY
RATIONALITY SHOWS YOU THE TRUTH
IN TRUTH WE TRUST BY RATIONALITY
IN GOD WE BELIVE BY IRRATIONALITY
CONSCIOUSNESS IS MENTAL RATIONALITY
UNCONSCIOUSNESS IS MENTAL ABSURDITY
ALL MENTALLY CONSCIOUS PEOPLE ARE BORN SANE IN MIND AND BODY
MENTALLY UNCONSCIOUS PEOPLE ARE BORN INSANE IN MIND AND BODY
FREE TO THINK IS FREE TO CHOSE
FREE TO CHOSE IS FREE TO LOVE
FREE TO LOVE IS FREE TO FIGHT
FREE TO FIGHT IS FREE TO LIVE
FREE TO THINK IS FREE TO LIVE
ALFA + VITA = Y2K – Conscious Full Free Life
ALFA + OMEGA = IOI – Unconscious Till Death
VITA + OMEGA = IOI – Unconscious Till Death
COUPLING IS NATURAL EVOLUTION TROUGH NATURAL SELECTION
FREE TO THINK IS FREE TO SELECT THE RIGHT PARTNER AND EVOLUTE
You Canadians make me sick.
Saskatchewan has legalized Polygamy.
Guess what? I researched this and it is a Canadian FEDERAL law.. against Polygamy…not a provincial law.. it is Federal law just like murder is a Federal law.
No Provincial government in Canada can just make a law legalizing Polygamy.
Sue the state that allows Polygamy.. especially the judges! And do it now!
Sorry Rhonda, but what you say is bullshit, the only law that prohibits polygamy is the religious law, civil laws are made for conscious people able to use rationality and able to make personal free choices.
Not brainless religious freaks that obey anything that is told them form the virtual above. They have their weird reliogus laws, that were invented by other freaks.
You can’t have laws prohibiting polygamy. It is a natural choice that concerns private life of citizens. You can’t have any law that prohibits natural free choices of free citizens.
The only problem would be that the majority of poligamists are religious mentally degenerated freaks, and are married to religious degenerated unwilling wimen, becosue they were mesmerized in order to marry oand obey their housband.
Becosue of this, a law is required that prohibits polygamy without a psychiatric certification of the state of sane mind in a sane body of people willing ot get married and live as polygamists of both sex.
CONSCIOUS PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO THINK FREE AND EVOLUTE THEMSELVES
CONSCIOUS PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO THINK FREE AND TAKE PROPER ACTIONS
FREE COUPLING IS NATURAL EVOLUTION TROUGH NATURAL SELECTION
NORMAL PEOPLE SELECT THE RIGHT PARTNER AND EVOLUTE FORWARD
How come the most caps, least grammar and quote spam are used by those who actually seem to be most insecure in their own beliefs, have abandoned basic human faculties, such as logic and reason, also have next to nothing to say?
Regardless of these limitations such persons seem to epitome aspects such as being a bore, bully and bigot.
Could one make a claim of correlation between behaviour and beliefs?
jagannath, on a somewhat related note, a recent Scientific American article noted findings of strong correlation between inability to make reasonable decisions in generic test cases, and religious belief. If I find the article again, I’ll post a citation.
Thank, I heard of that article but could not find it.
You know, these polygamists are certainly winning at the Darwinian game of life — that is, passing on their genes. The females have 6 or 7 children a piece and on top of that none of the females in their groups has to ever give up on having children because there is no man to marry. In addition, since they start having kids around 18, the health of the egg and the fertility of the mother is optomized (few probably incur problems with waiting too long to have kids and wind up infertile and barren). And there is some scientific evidence to suggest that the younger your mother was when she had you the longer you can expect to live.
I have found a few articles relating to a link, yet nothing concrete. However, I found this article interesting enough. I would have assumed one who had “faith” in an afterlife would be more inclined to venture there.
lieuuuuurrrrr kana mastakana, cing ganti blogna!!!!! garut, d
i am a mormon and this is crap. polygamy was alright when the prophet joseph smith was around because everyone was dying. When the missourians marched in and killed as many people as they could god made it possible for a man to have more than one wife so that that man could help take care of her children or bear her more if so needed. With the perilous journies they had to face it would have been awkward but they got through it. And the lord said that it wouldn’t happen again. Mormons are not morons and shouldn’t be practicing polygamy it is called the law of chastity and better yet they are still considered affairs. A women needs to marry a man that is single not married or dating someone else, and same goes for a man!! Polygamy isn’t right now but it was right then and the men only spent the living life with the 2nd wife and they spent time and all eternity with their first wife!!!so stop talking crap because it’s not right!!!
Hey natacia, hate to spoil it for you, but its ALL a bunch of crap. Im not sure if i should find it funny or sad the cack that you guys have swallowed hook line and sinker.
Im starting to wish i could start my own religion like Joseph Smith or Mohammed, then i can decide how many wives i want (cos god told me) as it suits me, or decide that i can have that guys posessions cos gold told me they were due me.
LOL “only i can decipher the writings on these gold chest plates that no one else is allowed to see”
they weren’t chest plates they were gold plates like a book.. and they weren’t allowed to be seen because god said. it was nobodys business.we are called latterday saints not mormons. mormon is just a pet name.your right polygamy is all crap but the latter day saint religion isn’t.oh and you could start your own religion but you can’t choose your number of wives because its against the law to have more than one.oh and make sure you teach repentance or you won’t make it in heaven.(well if you find followers;D)LOL
No, they weren’t allowed to be seen because they didn’t exist. There is no better way to fool the ignorant than to tell them God said something. You have what is called a second hand account, a.k.a hearsay. Regardless of what you call yourselfs, most logically minded people know you as fools. You’re not any different than the man who talks to bushes along the side of the road.
you know what why don’t you go to lds.org or go research on lds websites about us and what we do.there are pictures of THE GOLDEN PLATES because they do exist!!!we are so much different then the man on the side of the road we aren’t mental or disabled…
“we aren’t mental or disabled” -too funny.
-maybe it’s http://lsd.org that you meant to point MarcDLS to. That spammer site and its name both are more appropriate to the bizarre claims of your religion and its obviously fraudulent beginnings.
Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.
Natacia, here’s a helpful starting point for you to aid your recovery from your sick and harmful religion. Enough people have been hurt by lds doctrine already so it’s nice to know that there are escape routes and that there have been successful escapes from the church of latter day polygamy and idiocy.
Here’s some additional reading on the bizarre claims of lds/mormonism. Much more is available on that subject.
Fear and an isolated community are pretty much all that keeps the lds (lsd)religion going.
Religion is for the stupid, the ignorant, the insane, and the gullible, and for those who would profit from them.
yeah right you can be happy talking crap obout mormons but i am proud to be one it gives me courage and strength to get through my days and i enjoy reading the Book of Mormon it gives a person a lot of faith…are you part of a religion because if you are you just called yourself all of those names
“are you part of a religion because if you are you just called yourself all of those names”
LOL. Natacia, perhaps you should consider the implications of the title and general thrust of this site. However, your absurd beliefs show that thinking is not your strong suit.
Religion is for the stupid, the ignorant, the insane, and the gullible, and for those who would profit from them
I’m wondering how the Golden Plates can be photographed if your fluffy prophet said that he returned them to the angel Moroni after translating them. Apparently you are too ignorant to properly represent your own silly and fictitious faith. Can you explain when the angel gave them back to your silly Mormons and who received them from said angel?
okay my gpa is 4.0 and i got some of the states highest test scores last year so apparently you need to think before yo open your mouth.thinking is my best quality!!!!i know what this site is for and i was gonna post my true thoughts to this page but i decided against it after i figured out my mom is a big fan of this site:[ anyway they were photographed before Joseph gave them back to Moroni!!!moroni is the angel on top of all the lds temples….they will get given back to us after people like YOU start repentingand believing in god!!!there is still a portion that was never translated because god told Joseph not to translate that part of the plates.the translated and got 153 (i think) pages done, and then Joseph gave them to Martin Harris after they were ready to stop for a little while. Martin lost them so God banded a section of The Book of Mormon and forbade anyone to look or read it..they couldn’t translate it. anr they won’t till bafoons like you stop being so ignorant and pig-headed!!!!!
From LDS.org:
When some people interested in the Book of Mormon ask to see the golden plates, they are disappointed to learn that Joseph returned them to Moroni.
You are an fool and you are a liar. If they did have pictures of the original the LDS would be parading them to everyone who had any doubts about their ignorant religion. Maybe, in your ignorance, you refer to the the photograph taken of a “transcript of the plates” which feature reformed Egyptian characters? Obviously you aren’t as smart as your think you are. Your religion is obviously a fraud meant to control people who are too ignorant to pursue fact and take what any insane megalomaniac has to say for granted.
Note: “transcript of the plates” can also be read as “gibberish scrawled on a piece of paper.”
okay you infernal beast why don’t you look up the golden plates on google and then tell me there weren’t any pictures taken. you are a mean stupid idiot!!!!!!!
Natacia dear, plates are for holding loads of pasta and sauce, not for writing about yer religion on. that’d be a waste.
Come on over to http://venganza.org to fill yer plates with the real gospel truth.
hey that is kinda funny and i guess this crap needs to be changed…sorry mom. now to see my change and happiness go up to the search bar type in mormons and click the other link besides polygamist leader. watch the clip by the australian comedian and then go down and read the comment by Nicole.(thats me)haha thats what i go by but that is my middle name..lol now i changed my mind and i am sorry for comment 34…lol
Doesn’t matter if you think I’m mean, I know you are ignorant. Sure, there are lots of picture of Golden Plates, but they are pictures of replicas that were made based off of descriptions, fictitious descriptions. Do you even know what a replica is? Check it out on dictionary.com and education yourself in something besides useless Mormon teachings.
i asked my mom if they were replicas and guess what your right!!!so sorry
polygamy raised the status of women, and prevent from prostitution, such as the western culture which always makes a woman as a sexual object and do not respect women
So, m, do you agree that women should be on equal legal footing with men, and do you support women’s rights?
More specifically, are you in agreement that women should be allowed to have multiple husbands? Polygamy can work both ways.
This is rather a simple answer for everyone, if canada legalized it. Then let it be, honestly i am territorial as ALL humans are over their spouses. Those who would share their lovers, honestly have no ascended feelings or sharings with the person they married and are sharing. But bottom line, its legal so get over it. As stated in my previoius statement about the pope benedicts funeral, religion is a mythology. Made up, so get your head out of your ass and open your damn eyes that have been mucked up by such crap as religion.
. He was chosen by the electors of Preston before Parliament was reformed:
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